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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? " I'd say you know exactly what it is  | |||
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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? " Would it be controversial to say all of the above? But in all seriousness I think the perception of a clique is inevitable on any forum and I personally don't see that as something worth worrying about. I think there is a tendancy to scream "yeah but the clique" as a defensive reaction by some posters on here. Personally I find when the forum reacts like a pack and jump on someone's post far more disturbing | |||
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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? Would it be controversial to say all of the above? But in all seriousness I think the perception of a clique is inevitable on any forum and I personally don't see that as something worth worrying about. I think there is a tendancy to scream "yeah but the clique" as a defensive reaction by some posters on here. Personally I find when the forum reacts like a pack and jump on someone's post far more disturbing" Me too. It's an interesting phenomenon though, the tone of a thread can often be governed by the initial response. | |||
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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? Would it be controversial to say all of the above? But in all seriousness I think the perception of a clique is inevitable on any forum and I personally don't see that as something worth worrying about. I think there is a tendancy to scream "yeah but the clique" as a defensive reaction by some posters on here. Personally I find when the forum reacts like a pack and jump on someone's post far more disturbing Me too. It's an interesting phenomenon though, the tone of a thread can often be governed by the initial response. " Oooh. That's just what I was thinking. People like a bandwagon! | |||
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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? Would it be controversial to say all of the above? But in all seriousness I think the perception of a clique is inevitable on any forum and I personally don't see that as something worth worrying about. I think there is a tendancy to scream "yeah but the clique" as a defensive reaction by some posters on here. Personally I find when the forum reacts like a pack and jump on someone's post far more disturbing Me too. It's an interesting phenomenon though, the tone of a thread can often be governed by the initial response. Oooh. That's just what I was thinking. People like a bandwagon! " The desire to fit in with the crowd is strong | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative. "A bait for what? | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait A bait for what?" Maybe it’s Clique bait?  | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative. "I disagree! And I'm sure my fab supporters to come and back me up on that! ...supporters? Anyone? [Crickets] | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait A bait for what? Maybe it’s Clique bait? "And here we are 
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too. "Considering the way the OP posts generally and his sarcasm and joke responses. He is one of the last people I would expect to do that. And I realise now that by sticking up for him I now look like I'm his clique. The irony. But in fairness you've made it virtually impossible for anyone genuine to appear like they are not part of a clique now if they genuinely support others. Did I take your bait? I know most will. | |||
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"Cliques are natural, they occur in all social gatherings ... but they are only noticed by those who feel excluded Go to any pub or sports club etc and groups of people who know each other will talk to each other to (seemingly) the exclusion of others Online this is exacerbated by the simple fact that we can't walk up and join in, we can't read body language and we can't speak to individuals when they leave the clique to be introduced to the clique "In the forums you can join in a thread. If you're noticeably overlooked (often after saying something that another contributor later says) you're going to feel excluded with some justification. Of course there are people who don't like each other and won't respond and those who deliberately only engage with the ones they find attractive, it reflects as you say any social situation nobody is required to talk to everyone. However denying it and dismissing the feelings of people who do feel excluded isn't right in my opinion | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too. "For asking questions? | |||
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"Cliques are natural, they occur in all social gatherings ... but they are only noticed by those who feel excluded Go to any pub or sports club etc and groups of people who know each other will talk to each other to (seemingly) the exclusion of others Online this is exacerbated by the simple fact that we can't walk up and join in, we can't read body language and we can't speak to individuals when they leave the clique to be introduced to the clique
In the forums you can join in a thread. If you're noticeably overlooked (often after saying something that another contributor later says) you're going to feel excluded with some justification. Of course there are people who don't like each other and won't respond and those who deliberately only engage with the ones they find attractive, it reflects as you say any social situation nobody is required to talk to everyone. However denying it and dismissing the feelings of people who do feel excluded isn't right in my opinion "It's not right but cliques will always happen when people know each other ... feeling and being dismissed is awful online but the generally dismissed group (my clique  ) can't put it right unfortunately | |||
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"There are, as in any group, a core of popular contributors who can be assured of a positive response from others. Whether this constitutes a clique or just a group of friends talking depends on your view point. It does have the effect intentional or not of excluding other people " I'd agree with the definition but not the last bit. It may seem that some are excluded, but as with all things on Fab, everyone is equal. Anyone can post on a thread. Anyone can start one. To use the age old pub analogy, you'll always find regulars that chat and know eachother. It can be hard to arrive as a new visitor and over time be viewed as 'a regular but that's something that both sides are responsible for. The 'regulars' need to make sure they're open to welcoming new people but the new people also need to recognise that they're not entitled to suddenly become friends with, form close contacts or have everyone agree with them just because they post. Some people do themselves few favours with the way they interact, whether that's the outspoken and confrontational nature of comments, the language used, the blatant ulterior motives behind comments (be that passive aggressive or fawning sycophancy) or the subject matter they focus on. But anyone can include themselves. You're only excluded if you allow yourself to be. That doesn't guarantee replies, responses or that people will engage with you of course, but the forums are and have always been open to all. Looking from the outside you'll always see groups that agree with eachother frequently just because they share similar opinions and values, not because they know eachother. There'll also be people who are in fact real friends, who'll back eachother up because that's what friends do. There'll also be the vocal contributors who are passionate about arguing their viewpoint (yep, my hand is up here) who may then get others simply giving a thumbs up. None of the above means there's a clique. All of the above means some will say there is because its an easy cop out and defence mechanism when others don't respond to comments, compliment them instead of others or agree with what they say. So whether you think there is a clique or there isn't......you're going to be right in your own mind. A | |||
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"Cliques are natural, they occur in all social gatherings ... but they are only noticed by those who feel excluded Go to any pub or sports club etc and groups of people who know each other will talk to each other to (seemingly) the exclusion of others Online this is exacerbated by the simple fact that we can't walk up and join in, we can't read body language and we can't speak to individuals when they leave the clique to be introduced to the clique
In the forums you can join in a thread. If you're noticeably overlooked (often after saying something that another contributor later says) you're going to feel excluded with some justification. Of course there are people who don't like each other and won't respond and those who deliberately only engage with the ones they find attractive, it reflects as you say any social situation nobody is required to talk to everyone. However denying it and dismissing the feelings of people who do feel excluded isn't right in my opinion "My comments are mostly ignored, as are the majority of comments on any thread, as it's impossible to reply to every comment we read. I know people read what I've written but I don't expect a reply every time; especially as a lot of the time we're all saying similar things. I don't really notice who's routinely commenting on specific peoples' posts, because I have a terrible memory and flit from thread to thread. Maybe, the people feeling left out are focusing on the people they are attracted to and feeling down because they aren't getting anywhere. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions? "More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory. Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. "People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative. "On that basis any regular forum poster, and particularly those who are happy to share their opinions and posts an opinion thst others agree with is part of the clique? | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive. "People should. But people can't. Not an ideal world, but that's what it is. Besides. Goalposts for what constitutes being abusive or passive aggressive shift so much in here that they practically mean nothing. Plenty of examples in the forum whereby what certain users say get a free pass but someone else doing the same gets sanctioned. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
On that basis any regular forum poster, and particularly those who are happy to share their opinions and posts an opinion thst others agree with is part of the clique?"Only if its noticeable that they are constantly enjoying a feedback approval loop with whoever they express approval with, across different forum threads, and always the same situation of "when A shows up, B is often next". | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive.
People should. But people can't. Not an ideal world, but that's what it is.
Besides. Goalposts for what constitutes being abusive or passive aggressive shift so much in here that they practically mean nothing. Plenty of examples in the forum whereby what certain users say get a free pass but someone else doing the same gets sanctioned. "I think if you admit to post passively aggressively and express a wish to be able to post aggressively you are obviously ignoring the forum rules? | |||
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"I don’t know how folk can be arsed arguing like this, seems like effort " True dat | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative. "And a happy Thursday to you. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
On that basis any regular forum poster, and particularly those who are happy to share their opinions and posts an opinion thst others agree with is part of the clique?
Only if its noticeable that they are constantly enjoying a feedback approval loop with whoever they express approval with, across different forum threads, and always the same situation of "when A shows up, B is often next". "There are a number of regular posters that I regularly follow on to threads, one because I find her hilarious another because they tend to post on topics I enjoy. I genuinely don't see the problem with that? It's a forum with dozens of active threads so I'll look for ones thst interest me | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive.
People should. But people can't. Not an ideal world, but that's what it is.
Besides. Goalposts for what constitutes being abusive or passive aggressive shift so much in here that they practically mean nothing. Plenty of examples in the forum whereby what certain users say get a free pass but someone else doing the same gets sanctioned.
I think if you admit to post passively aggressively and express a wish to be able to post aggressively you are obviously ignoring the forum rules?
"Forum rules only protect against overt targeted aggression aka naming and shaming/abusing. Anything else is thin ice but not outright a no no. Freedom of speech yeah. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive.
People should. But people can't. Not an ideal world, but that's what it is.
Besides. Goalposts for what constitutes being abusive or passive aggressive shift so much in here that they practically mean nothing. Plenty of examples in the forum whereby what certain users say get a free pass but someone else doing the same gets sanctioned. "They can, but they choose not to. If I thought someone was deliberately digging me out on here I'd ignore them. It's very easy to do. I'm here for my leisure, not to argue. It's supposed to be fun. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
People should be able to have a debate and conversation without being passive-aggresive, or abusive.
People should. But people can't. Not an ideal world, but that's what it is.
Besides. Goalposts for what constitutes being abusive or passive aggressive shift so much in here that they practically mean nothing. Plenty of examples in the forum whereby what certain users say get a free pass but someone else doing the same gets sanctioned.
I think if you admit to post passively aggressively and express a wish to be able to post aggressively you are obviously ignoring the forum rules?
Forum rules only protect against overt targeted aggression aka naming and shaming/abusing. Anything else is thin ice but not outright a no no.
Freedom of speech yeah. "That's not my interpretation of the rules? Also it's a forum, the owners/admin/mods can set rules as they see fit. It's nothing to do with freedom of speech | |||
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"There are people who have similar interests; personalities; views etc who chat regularly, who are friendly towards each other, who may or may not have met in person, who interact more frequently on threads. Other people who want to be one of those people put them in a group and call them cliques,because they feel they won't be one of them, and are maybe feeling left out or ganged up on." I concur with Nanna. (How many times does an agreement have to happen before this is a clique?) | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. "Christ on a bike mate, did you *actually* just say you want to fight people? Do you have any idea how juvenile that sounds? Keep it friendly. | |||
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"I don’t know how folk can be arsed arguing like this, seems like effort " I agree! People overthink so much on here. Or perhaps I just don’t overthink at all. Just let folk get on with whatever they do. Join in or don’t. This mystery clique crap has been going on for years. | |||
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"The forum goes in waves and you get self appointed wannabees who group together and run as a crowd. They usually all fall out with each other at some point in their private whatsapp groups. I think the forum is actually in one of its quiet clique moments currently - a lot of people have gone UNLOS at the moment which is for the better." I was thinking exactly the same… the forum is going through a very un-cliquey time and it is quite good. 
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"I think it’s an excuse used by people who try and get included but don’t. I couldn’t give two fucks. If there is a secret group chat, slagging people off then sly little pricks are not my kind of people. The mr " Exactly | |||
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"There are, as in any group, a core of popular contributors who can be assured of a positive response from others. Whether this constitutes a clique or just a group of friends talking depends on your view point. It does have the effect intentional or not of excluding other people I'd agree with the definition but not the last bit. It may seem that some are excluded, but as with all things on Fab, everyone is equal. Anyone can post on a thread. Anyone can start one. To use the age old pub analogy, you'll always find regulars that chat and know eachother. It can be hard to arrive as a new visitor and over time be viewed as 'a regular but that's something that both sides are responsible for. The 'regulars' need to make sure they're open to welcoming new people but the new people also need to recognise that they're not entitled to suddenly become friends with, form close contacts or have everyone agree with them just because they post. Some people do themselves few favours with the way they interact, whether that's the outspoken and confrontational nature of comments, the language used, the blatant ulterior motives behind comments (be that passive aggressive or fawning sycophancy) or the subject matter they focus on. But anyone can include themselves. You're only excluded if you allow yourself to be. That doesn't guarantee replies, responses or that people will engage with you of course, but the forums are and have always been open to all. Looking from the outside you'll always see groups that agree with eachother frequently just because they share similar opinions and values, not because they know eachother. There'll also be people who are in fact real friends, who'll back eachother up because that's what friends do. There'll also be the vocal contributors who are passionate about arguing their viewpoint (yep, my hand is up here) who may then get others simply giving a thumbs up. None of the above means there's a clique. All of the above means some will say there is because its an easy cop out and defence mechanism when others don't respond to comments, compliment them instead of others or agree with what they say. So whether you think there is a clique or there isn't......you're going to be right in your own mind. A" Yes. You have to break in and become known. | |||
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"I think pecking order was the best term used for it and most of it is self appointed. A lot of the time people who feel a certain way are shot down like it doesn't exist but everyone knows it does. It's usually the ones that shout the loudest that it doesnt are the biggest culprits too. " Totally agree with this | |||
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" I was thinking exactly the same… the forum is going through a very un-cliquey time and it is quite good.
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"There are absolutely, a group of regular and recurring users on here, who we often see hijacking threads and turning them into what basically becomes a 2 or 3 way closed conversation, but with spectators. Sometimes they are riddled with ‘inside jokes’ that completely exclude everyone else. It can be particularly off-putting for people who are new, unsure, or with genuine questions that they may be nervous about asking. People hate facts but here is one - Fab is far from being as inclusive as people like to think it is "If I'm reading a thread like that and what they're saying doesn't entertain me I look for another, from the countless other threads. | |||
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"For me,its a few people who tend to derail threads with a conversation between themselves which normally has nothing to do with the actual thread,I guess this puts people off from posting because it comes across as a closed club " Yep this! Nothing wrong with certain people being more friendly than others or chatting more than others. It is the in-jokes and comments and seeming private conversation that can be the problem. Seen this on other chat groups as well. Just human nature sadly. | |||
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"The clique hold regular secret, midnight ceremonies whilst stood in a circle around a pampas grass bush whilst dressed in black robes and sporting upside down pineapple pendants. They chant in a strange dirge and sometimes engage in lewd carnal acts of an unspeakable nature….." To be fair, this sounds fucking amazing! | |||
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"To be fair, this sounds fucking amazing! "Yeah. If that’s the clique, I’m in. | |||
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"The pub analogy holds up, I think. A forum has its regulars, the same as a pub does. They’re no better than you, they’re just here more often. That’s all. (And it’s not their responsibility to make sure you have fun. They’re just here to enjoy themselves, same as you are.)" I like this ^^ | |||
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"In any social environment, the development of groups who gravitate towards one another is inevitable. Is that a clique or just a group of like minded individuals? At times the familiarity between regular and established posters may well cause others to feel excluded. Regrettable but again I guess inevitable. At times there is occasionally a bit of a dog pack type response which sometimes gets called out, Sometimes not. There are also one or two notable individus who see to thrive on the notoriety of (apparrently) deliberately setting themselves apart and seeking out controversy.t The forums are a very rough approximation of society, fir all its flaws and benefits." very rough because texting messages allows a bravado that doesn't exist in life, so by virtue you can say many things you wouldn't say to that persons face, which can be good in one context not so good in another | |||
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"^^ I think that very much depends on your view of the fora and what you feel their purpose is. Barriers aren't always physical or technical" In my view? The lounge is and has always been for idle chat. Anything from the mundane to the ridiculous. The other sections are more specific hence their titles. There never seems to be any mention of cliques in any of the other sections (bar I suspect the geographical ones maybe). Nobody in 'Swingers Chat' mentions it. Nor the clubs and meets. Not stories and fantasies. It seems a unique occurrence in the Lounge. As for virtual barriers? They can be as much self inflicted as anything else. A | |||
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"^^ I think that very much depends on your view of the fora and what you feel their purpose is. Barriers aren't always physical or technical In my view? The lounge is and has always been for idle chat. Anything from the mundane to the ridiculous. The other sections are more specific hence their titles. There never seems to be any mention of cliques in any of the other sections (bar I suspect the geographical ones maybe). Nobody in 'Swingers Chat' mentions it. Nor the clubs and meets. Not stories and fantasies. It seems a unique occurrence in the Lounge. As for virtual barriers? They can be as much self inflicted as anything else. A Yep but if the infliction (is that a word?) is equal then so is the responsibility. " Oh I agree. As I said earlier, both sides have a responsibility. There are some people who shout 'clique' though simply because they don't get the desired response they seek, because others (or the majority in some cases) don't agree with their views and because the are called out for expressing certain views. Its an easy defense mechanism to deflect. There are others who aren't interested in engaging with anyone they don't want to fuck, aren't existing friends with and who will ignore posts from people they've no history with. Both of those groups are definitely in the minority though. Much like the common 'how do I get my first verification?' question that frequently pops up where my response is that everyone started out unverified, when people ask how to get more involved the the forums my reply is much the same. We were all new to the forums once. Those that people see more frequently and consider the 'clique suspects' are seen that way probably because they post more, get involved more and don't hide in the wings. The psychology of forums and actual physical meets is much the same. You get out what you put in and generally positive effort equals positive results. A | |||
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"*Clique* Clique* BOOOM! "Yo, are y’all ready for me yet? | |||
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"I'll add my two cents but will probably be skipped by as I am the OG of thread killers lol although I've just made no sense! The threads that get derailed, it's been mentioned above, why not go back to the original comment? Don't sit there roll your eyes and think here we go again, get involved by answering the OP. Maybe I'm wrong but in some cases the people that say there's a 'clique' and people agree.... Are you not partaking in a 'clique'? " No,I am Spartacus | |||
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"*Clique* Clique* BOOOM!
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"Can we leave my team of gatekeepers out of this please "- team + clique | |||
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"I see the clique agree that there is no clique,irony" Is there a clique of people who insist there's a clique? | |||
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Jonny got a boom boom,Imelda may
I thought it was boom shake the room?? "https://youtu.be/HLzZUiwGi_k Nope definitely Johnny got a boom boom,Imelda may is frickin gorgeous | |||
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"Heard a rumour it's HBK, HHH, X-pac,Diesel and Razor sometimes Chyna, Rick Flair and Rick Rude " Exactly what I was going to say...later joined by Road Dog and Billy Gunn and became Degeneration X | |||
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"Heard a rumour it's HBK, HHH, X-pac,Diesel and Razor sometimes Chyna, Rick Flair and Rick Rude Exactly what I was going to say...later joined by Road Dog and Billy Gunn and became Degeneration X " That’s my era of Wrestling  | |||
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"Heard a rumour it's HBK, HHH, X-pac,Diesel and Razor sometimes Chyna, Rick Flair and Rick Rude Exactly what I was going to say...later joined by Road Dog and Billy Gunn and became Degeneration X That’s my era of Wrestling "Attitude Era was the best. | |||
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. " someone gets it. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
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For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. "If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose | |||
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"Ahhhhhhhhhhh The Clique...... THE Clique ...... Doesn't exist. It's been touted since i've been here some 15 or more years ago. Those accused of being THE CLIQUE then no longer exist....... so 'the percieved clique' changes now and then. The clique is only there if you can see it and it's only visible to certain people with certain characteristics. I myself have never seen the clique.... " your sights going | |||
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"There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. Wait, what?
Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
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"I've still not received my pendant and robes. Who should I contact please? J" Dear Member, you need to submit your application through the Clique Secretary. Apparently. They will cross check your membership status against our records (Ahem, I mean the records) and issue the uniform matching your rank in the Clique. Allegedly. | |||
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Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
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"I've still not received my pendant and robes. Who should I contact please? J" F&B told me that for the initiation ritual I would have to stick a banana up my arse and run naked around a shopping centre. …..After my subsequent arrest, I found out that A: He isn’t even a certified member of the clique and B: Was playing a cruel practical joke on me. The bugger! | |||
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"I'd also like to add... confirmation bias. If you think it's there, you're looking for it and will find it." Why doesn't confirmation bias work when I lose my glasses? I think they're somewhere, I'm looking for them, but......... 
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Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you" But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
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Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
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"I’ve seen this mentioned a lot on The Lounge since I’ve been posting here (actually quite a lot in the last few days). What actually is this? A group of posters who are all in some secret WhatsApp / Telegram group? Or is it just a reference to regular posters that interact with each other here more than others? Or is it just a harmless in joke? Would it be controversial to say all of the above? But in all seriousness I think the perception of a clique is inevitable on any forum and I personally don't see that as something worth worrying about. I think there is a tendancy to scream "yeah but the clique" as a defensive reaction by some posters on here. Personally I find when the forum reacts like a pack and jump on someone's post far more disturbing Me too. It's an interesting phenomenon though, the tone of a thread can often be governed by the initial response. Oooh. That's just what I was thinking. People like a bandwagon! The desire to fit in with the crowd is strong" How boring ! I always try and do the opposite
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
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For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
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Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
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Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry "Never said I was spoiling for a physical fight. Fights can be verbal or written. If people want to interpret it as me wanting to go fisticuffs against anyone in here that's their prerogative. After all that's the catch all excuse used by some profiles in here as cover for anything they say and anyone they target. | |||
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Does this mean there are in fact two cliques? The original clique and a new clique of people adamant there's a clique?
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"There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. Wait, what?
Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
You do realise there are people on here who maybe too young for that reference???
Wash your damn mouth out
Sorry not sorry, seriously someone in my office didn't know who count duckula was the other day. I mortified to find out it came out before they were born
I’ve two Count Duckula VHS tapes in the house "No way!!! I loved Count Duckula, I mean what's not to love with a veggie Dracula? | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. "That's an insult to people who have been abused | |||
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
Does this mean there are in fact two cliques? The original clique and a new clique of people adamant there's a clique?
Where will it end?
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Schroedinger's clique
Ha! Good one - until you find out either way, there is and isn’t a clique"I think you will find it's a schadenfreude clique | |||
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
Does this mean there are in fact two cliques? The original clique and a new clique of people adamant there's a clique?
Where will it end?
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. " is this a clique ? Or a friendship group ? I can buy that a group day to each other "suited is at it again". Especially if you have fequent cases where you don't see eye to eye. I can also buy that of they are regulars they are reading threads often. As so will react to such posts even if they haven't contributed before. Imo its a jump from the lounge having friendship groups to there being a clique. And the lounge helps encourage friendships. | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused"What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern. Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile. | |||
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. is this a clique ? Or a friendship group ? I can buy that a group day to each other "suited is at it again". Especially if you have fequent cases where you don't see eye to eye. I can also buy that of they are regulars they are reading threads often. As so will react to such posts even if they haven't contributed before. Imo its a jump from the lounge having friendship groups to there being a clique. And the lounge helps encourage friendships. "
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
Does this mean there are in fact two cliques? The original clique and a new clique of people adamant there's a clique?
Where will it end?
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See i could get on my high horse and say I said that before you but i won't. Lol "
**something, something, Imitation is flattery, something, something**
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"There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. Wait, what?
Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
Never said I was spoiling for a physical fight. Fights can be verbal or written. If people want to interpret it as me wanting to go fisticuffs against anyone in here that's their prerogative. After all that's the catch all excuse used by some profiles in here as cover for anything they say and anyone they target. "You literally said “ have a proper fight” | |||
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"There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against. Wait, what?
Have a snickers mate, you’re not the same when you’re hungry
You do realise there are people on here who maybe too young for that reference???
Wash your damn mouth out
Sorry not sorry, seriously someone in my office didn't know who count duckula was the other day. I mortified to find out it came out before they were born
I’ve two Count Duckula VHS tapes in the house
No way!!! I loved Count Duckula, I mean what's not to love with a veggie Dracula? "I need to dig them out again | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile. "Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it?? | |||
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"I'm in my own clique if that counts? Although I am considering kicking myself out." I won't join a group that would have me as a member etc | |||
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"I'm in my own clique if that counts? Although I am considering kicking myself out." What did you do? Start a fight in an empty room? | |||
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"Ahhhhhh the I see the clique have infiltrated the clique thread,making light,mocking and scorn those who reveal them..........I see you But....but.....but...... I've seen people give thumbs up to comments stating there's a clique and agreeing with people that say there is one, thus supporting them against rose with the opposite view. Now that's exactly the behaviour they say is displayed by the clique and those in it.
Does this mean there are in fact two cliques? The original clique and a new clique of people adamant there's a clique?
Where will it end?
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See i could get on my high horse and say I said that before you but i won't. Lol
**something, something, Imitation is flattery, something, something**
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile.
Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it?? "It's also quite entertaining given DS has been here probably longer than anyone, has seen the comings and goings of the forums more than most and has contributed to discussions more than anyone on this thread. The fact the profile is hidden won't tell anyone that but one of the things you learn over a very extended period of time on the site is who people are and how they interact with others, whether in a positive manner or otherwise. And whilst 'length of service' is no guarantee of anything its often the case that some of the long term site users come across as a lot more pleasant than some more recent contributers. Sorry if that makes you sound old DS.
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"I don't get the obsession over it tbh, is it just an attempt at developing a hierarchy? In lieu of either class or economic hierarchies?" That and manufacturing grievance, I think. Grievance is sometimes justified, but not always. | |||
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. someone gets it. "Get's what ? Up to 6 people disagree with him and in order to not be wrong he cries clique... | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile.
Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it?? "Because if they want to do personal attacks on others or insinuate someone doesn't have a point about being personally attacked then they shouldn't be doing it behind a hidden profile. Simple as that. Another classic characteristic of some forum cliques here is their propensity to use hidden profiles (be it sometimes or all the time) and then ride into every thread they wish, throw a couple smoke or actual grenades in, and then you see all their sycophants/birds of the same feather start popping in like "one little two little three little piggies...". | |||
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. someone gets it.
Get's what ?
Up to 6 people disagree with him and in order to not be wrong he cries clique...
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile.
Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it??
It's also quite entertaining given DS has been here probably longer than anyone, has seen the comings and goings of the forums more than most and has contributed to discussions more than anyone on this thread.
The fact the profile is hidden won't tell anyone that but one of the things you learn over a very extended period of time on the site is who people are and how they interact with others, whether in a positive manner or otherwise.
And whilst 'length of service' is no guarantee of anything its often the case that some of the long term site users come across as a lot more pleasant than some more recent contributers.
Sorry if that makes you sound old DS.
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"I don't get the obsession over it tbh, is it just an attempt at developing a hierarchy? In lieu of either class or economic hierarchies? That and manufacturing grievance, I think. Grievance is sometimes justified, but not always." As much as some say about those who want to be popular and queen bee of the forums. There are those who like playing the underdog, and appear to the rebels and so unique. I find these sets of people very very similar | |||
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"I don't get the obsession over it tbh, is it just an attempt at developing a hierarchy? In lieu of either class or economic hierarchies? That and manufacturing grievance, I think. Grievance is sometimes justified, but not always. As much as some say about those who want to be popular and queen bee of the forums. There are those who like playing the underdog, and appear to the rebels and so unique. I find these sets of people very very similar " Indeed. | |||
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"I've still not received my pendant and robes. Who should I contact please? J When you find out, can you let me know, please?
Can I just wear my fluffy dressing gown?
Perfect. Or a nice housecoat. "I could get behind this and the usernames listed above | |||
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"I’ve been on fab over 10 years and there is a clique. I’m not shy of saying what think especially calling people out for chatting shit and that hasn’t gone down well with some. All I know is that I have had regular occurrences when I have done that in a thread, and within minutes 4-5 of the usual suspects miraculously appear on the thread to defend. Read into that what you will, but I could name every one of them. someone gets it.
Get's what ?
Up to 6 people disagree with him and in order to not be wrong he cries clique...
"And you know there's up to 6 people disagreeing with him how? His comment hasn't been quoted six times by six individuals disagreeing with him. You think calling cliques out is done in an effort by someone to try and be "right"? We all know the nature of the forums. It's the same as humanity. Majority wins. Popular opinion matters. Nails that stick up and dare to stand out get hammered down. And on and on this rotten wheel rolls. There's no "winning being right" in calling cliques out. Because sooner or later all those who aren't part of the cliques or call their existence out will quit and do something else better in their lives. | |||
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" Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it?? Because if they want to do personal attacks on others or insinuate someone doesn't have a point about being personally attacked then they shouldn't be doing it behind a hidden profile. Simple as that. Another classic characteristic of some forum cliques here is their propensity to use hidden profiles (be it sometimes or all the time) and then ride into every thread they wish, throw a couple smoke or actual grenades in, and then you see all their sycophants/birds of the same feather start popping in like "one little two little three little piggies...". " Last I checked, critiquing profiles (unsolicited) is against the rules of the forum. | |||
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"Ahhhhhhhhhhh The Clique...... THE Clique ...... Doesn't exist. It's been touted since i've been here some 15 or more years ago. Those accused of being THE CLIQUE then no longer exist....... so 'the percieved clique' changes now and then. The clique is only there if you can see it and it's only visible to certain people with certain characteristics. I myself have never seen the clique.... your sights going "Who said that ? | |||
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"I don't get the obsession over it tbh, is it just an attempt at developing a hierarchy? In lieu of either class or economic hierarchies? That and manufacturing grievance, I think. Grievance is sometimes justified, but not always. As much as some say about those who want to be popular and queen bee of the forums. There are those who like playing the underdog, and appear to the rebels and so unique. I find these sets of people very very similar " What about those in the middle,have they got their own clique? | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile.
Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it??
Because if they want to do personal attacks on others or insinuate someone doesn't have a point about being personally attacked then they shouldn't be doing it behind a hidden profile. Simple as that.
Another classic characteristic of some forum cliques here is their propensity to use hidden profiles (be it sometimes or all the time) and then ride into every thread they wish, throw a couple smoke or actual grenades in, and then you see all their sycophants/birds of the same feather start popping in like "one little two little three little piggies...". "Do you not think you are being slightly over dramatic. Where was the personal insult | |||
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"Firstly, this is surely a bait thread. Secondly, the Clique in the forums are a bunch of profiles that always seem to 1) enjoy support and approval from others, 2) have their entourage of regular supporters whom you'll never fail to see appear on any thread they are active on to voice their approval or support, 3) act like self appointed gatekeepers or paragons of what Fab users should be like from their moral high horses, and 4) be at least publicly blind (whether feigned or otherwise) to the fact that they are members of a clique in the forums because they're the main benefactors of such a dynamic. My views are my own and only valid to me. If people agree? Great. If they don't that's their prerogative.
A bait for what?
Another forum conflict thread and possibly forum bans too.
For asking questions?
More like for giving answers that can potentially be construed as being too direct, which would then fall into targeted abuse moderation territory.
Mind you, I wish I didn't need to be passive aggressive. There are quite a few people whom I'd be more than happy to have the chains let off and have a proper fight against.
If your fighting skills are as bad as your people skills I’ll wager you’ll lose
Watch as your comment gets reported by me for targeted abuse and the mods do nothing about it.
FYI my people skills only suck towards people I don't get on with. That's an insult to people who have been abused
What you want to think is your prerogative and none of my concern.
Especially when it comes from a faceless hidden profile.
Why bring someone's choice to hide their profile into it??
Because if they want to do personal attacks on others or insinuate someone doesn't have a point about being personally attacked then they shouldn't be doing it behind a hidden profile. Simple as that.
Another classic characteristic of some forum cliques here is their propensity to use hidden profiles (be it sometimes or all the time) and then ride into every thread they wish, throw a couple smoke or actual grenades in, and then you see all their sycophants/birds of the same feather start popping in like "one little two little three little piggies...". "Wait?? There's more than one clique??? You wrote 'some forum cliques' so you think there's more than one main group of people? | |||
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