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This is a slightly different one... And may require a bit more grey matter. Or not as the case may be.
What songs do you know that sound so similar to others?
I'll start with Ed sheeran thinking out loud and Marvin gaye and let's get it on...
There are some beauties out there..
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‘Creep’ by Radiohead - great song! 
But they were actually legally challenged by The Hollies who deemed it to be an almost identical chordal structure to their classic hit, ‘The Air That I Breath’.
The case was eventually settled out of court with Radiohead reportedly paying them an undisclosed fee. |
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"‘Creep’ by Radiohead - great song!
But they were actually legally challenged by The Hollies who deemed it to be an almost identical chordal structure to their classic hit, ‘The Air That I Breath’.
The case was eventually settled out of court with Radiohead reportedly paying them an undisclosed fee."
A third of the royalties... Interestingly it wasn't the hollies who sued them... They didn't want to. It was their record company. |
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"‘Creep’ by Radiohead - great song!
But they were actually legally challenged by The Hollies who deemed it to be an almost identical chordal structure to their classic hit, ‘The Air That I Breath’.
The case was eventually settled out of court with Radiohead reportedly paying them an undisclosed fee.
A third of the royalties... Interestingly it wasn't the hollies who sued them... They didn't want to. It was their record company."
typical of record companies - greedy bunch of wankers…. Any similarity I think was unintentional in that case - hence why the band had no interest in suing them… ive never listened to Creep and thought oooh thats like the air that i breathe… the limited amount of chords in a key mean that chord progressions are certain to be repeated across different works. Some songs like Lets work together and bryan ferrys Lets stick together are obviously rooted in the same song … |
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique. "
I've seen similar. The point being made on the program I saw was that most musicians appreciate that sentiment. It's the record companies who are driving and motivated by the litigation. |
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Led Zeps Whole lotta luv is such a rip of of Small Faces You Need Love.
There is a bigger story to it though as the melody is a an old Muddy Waters track.
Robert Plant made no effort to hide his copying of Steve Marriotts vocal interpretation of it.
And yes, Steve Marriotts is way better. |
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique.
I've seen similar. The point being made on the program I saw was that most musicians appreciate that sentiment. It's the record companies who are driving and motivated by the litigation. "
A few years ago two guys, a musician and a programmer have created a program called AllTheMusic, what it's done is brute force every possible combination of musical notes within an octave (that's 8 notes) starting at C, within 6 days the program had worked out 68.7 Billion melodies.
The program will be expanded upon to include all 88 notes (you typically get 88 notes on a full sized piano), this would equate to 216 Sextillion melodies... that would look like 216,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
They did this to avoid copyright infringement and allow artists to "create" freely without fear of getting railed by record companies suing them for unwittingly stealing music.
So the next time you mindlessly whistle a tune as you make your coffee or think you're writing a beautiful melody, just remember, your tune already exists on a flash drive in some guys desk draw.
I will mention though, this program does not account for chords and harmony, nor timing/rhythms. It is just basic 8th notes without accompaniment.
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique. "
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique.
Aphex Twin laughs in your direction "
Good for them. I'm sure there's a joke there but its lost on me. |
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Hotel California has long been compared to a Jethro Tull song due to the same chord structure.
George Harrison’s ‘My sweet lord’ was a direct copy of The Shirelles ‘he’s so fine’ |
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique.
Aphex Twin laughs in your direction
Good for them. I'm sure there's a joke there but its lost on me. "
Him...he's somewhat unique and a bit left field (but not Leftfield...they're a different act completely) |
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"This is a slightly different one... And may require a bit more grey matter. Or not as the case may be.
What songs do you know that sound so similar to others?
I'll start with Ed sheeran thinking out loud and Marvin gaye and let's get it on...
There are some beauties out there..
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How about Oasis & The Beatles? |
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"I remember reading a few years ago that music had reached the point where every combination of notes had been written. So from that point on no new piece of music would be completely unique.
I've seen similar. The point being made on the program I saw was that most musicians appreciate that sentiment. It's the record companies who are driving and motivated by the litigation.
A few years ago two guys, a musician and a programmer have created a program called AllTheMusic, what it's done is brute force every possible combination of musical notes within an octave (that's 8 notes) starting at C, within 6 days the program had worked out 68.7 Billion melodies.
The program will be expanded upon to include all 88 notes (you typically get 88 notes on a full sized piano), this would equate to 216 Sextillion melodies... that would look like 216,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
They did this to avoid copyright infringement and allow artists to "create" freely without fear of getting railed by record companies suing them for unwittingly stealing music.
So the next time you mindlessly whistle a tune as you make your coffee or think you're writing a beautiful melody, just remember, your tune already exists on a flash drive in some guys desk draw.
I will mention though, this program does not account for chords and harmony, nor timing/rhythms. It is just basic 8th notes without accompaniment.
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Playing a chord progression or melody in a different octave or even a different key doesn't make it different. It is all about the relationship between the notes and the timing. |
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This is a bit of a random one but there’s an old Eurovision winner from a France called Sebastian who did a song called Divine.
You may remember him, wore a big old fake moustache and beard, dark sunglasses and came on stage in a golf cart
Anyway, that song had a really catchy beat/rhythm and vocal style and when the Bruno Mars song - I think I want to marry you - came out, it always made me think of Divine.
See what you think
Bruno Mars https://youtu.be/dElRVQFqj-k
Sebastiene https://youtu.be/Vz58Hw9hldw |
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