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so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement 
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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It is in the media. I read about it yesterday and youve shared a link to the guardian...
To be honest, I'm assuming that just because they are missing they are not neccesary at risk, ie believed to be living with family members rather than abducted. That's pure speculation on my part |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
Youre not wrong there Tom"
I'd be interested what you both think the Guardian has to answer for? |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is."
This. I read about this on the Guardian website and there's also a piece on the BBC news site under the heading "Brighton council seeks urgent talks over missing migrant children" |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
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Adults claiming to be children are not a children. |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
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Unfortunately with the current climate of anti immigration hate from the tabloids and people like Farage and the Tories makes vulnerable children easy prey for people who will exploit these children. |
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"It is in the media. I read about it yesterday and youve shared a link to the guardian...
To be honest, I'm assuming that just because they are missing they are not neccesary at risk, ie believed to be living with family members rather than abducted. That's pure speculation on my part"
That is mentioned near the end of the article. Missing doesn't necessarily mean abducted. They don't know how many have been abducted nor how many absconded or willingly found illegal work when offered.
'children' is a very emotive word and while I believe that they are not adult , even as adults, the police seldom intervene when 17 year olds 'run away' from home....... regardless of nationality. |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is."
The Guardian newspaper targets a well- educated, affluent, digitally-savvy, liberal audience. The demographic is 86% ABC1. 54% of The Guardian readers are male, and the average age of the print reader is 54.18 Jan 2022
Not mainstream news !!
What are the 5 biggest media companies in the UK?
Media organisations
Channel 4.
Global (Classic FM, Heart, Smooth, Radio X and LBC)
ITV.
Sky UK.
UKTV.
Virgin Media.
Warner Bros TV Productions UK.
Wireless Group (talkSPORT, Virgin Radio).
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children. "
There's only 1 example of that. This is something completely different. |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for"
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset. |
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"These are 16/17 year olds. If they want to leave how on earth do you stop them. All come here on the promise of a better life, it just doesn't say what form that life will be in "
The reports are that they're being "collected" by people traffickers. Presumably the passage to the UK requires repayment of the debt by the young people |
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After the ministry initially dismissed claims from a whistleblower that children were being abducted from hotels as “not true,” Home Office minister Simon Murray admitted the figure, including at least one girl and at least 13 children under 16, in the House of Lords. Most of the missing children were Albanian, he added.
A whistleblower from Home Office contractor Mitie said that traffickers were abducting children outside hotels and bundling them into cars.
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children. "
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"These are 16/17 year olds. If they want to leave how on earth do you stop them. All come here on the promise of a better life, it just doesn't say what form that life will be in
The reports are that they're being "collected" by people traffickers. Presumably the passage to the UK requires repayment of the debt by the young people "
It's so sad. Did you see the bit where the traffickers say "if you stay in the hotel you will be sent to rwanda" part |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
Youre not wrong there Tom
I'd be interested what you both think the Guardian has to answer for?"
You can’t expect Tom to expand on his trolling rants- he’s not a fan of doing that  |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset."
Well said. Couldn't agree more.  |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset."
Brexit to blame then |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset."
Sad but true! X |
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Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage "
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage "
Are you saying that has never happened.? |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage "
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children. "
Translation: “I don’t care because the Mail told me to hate forrins” |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok"
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
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The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ??? |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
Translation: “I don’t care because the Mail told me to hate forrins”"
The mail does not have a mouth so it can't tell me anything, how did you come to the conclusion that I read the mail.? Which I do not.
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???"
Cant they both be gutter rags? |
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With the whole Prince Andrew scandal, it makes you very worried.
There's more going on than we care to believe or want to.
Personally I think anyone touching underage people or those without consent should be sterilized at the least |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree? "
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x"
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with? |
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???"
This. The right wing press has absolutely fucked this country. And allowed the criminals in government to get away with murder. |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with? "
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X"
Then why bring race into it? |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then"
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty. |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty. "
To be honest man, it sounds a little like youre the one with the hatred |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty. "
I really like u x |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children. "
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it? "
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty.
To be honest man, it sounds a little like youre the one with the hatred"
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags? "
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X"
Hmm i tend to disagree
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
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Far left liberal agenda
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X
Hmm i tend to disagree
Beware those who draw attention to race, for they are the real race hustlers "
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X
Hmm i tend to disagree
Beware those who draw attention to race, for they are the real race hustlers
U will have to ask him though! Tbh! X"
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X
Hmm i tend to disagree
Beware those who draw attention to race, for they are the real race hustlers
U will have to ask him though! Tbh! X
And a kiss to you too"
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy "
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism"
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X
Hmm i tend to disagree
Beware those who draw attention to race, for they are the real race hustlers
U will have to ask him though! Tbh! X"
Cough.. it was a her who posted the racial element unless you know something different to the identity. |
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage
Em, tell that to the families of young local girls falling victim to grooming gangs in places like Rotherham etc.
Both situations are horrendous, lets not try to create racial divides again ok
So you disagree?
Think I've disagreed with every thing u ever said bar once! Tbh!x
What specifically about what i have said above do you disagree with?
I don't consider the person u was replying to was trying to incite racial divide! X
Then why bring race into it?
As I say don't think it was his intention to incite racial divide just making a point! X
Hmm i tend to disagree
Beware those who draw attention to race, for they are the real race hustlers
U will have to ask him though! Tbh! X
Cough.. it was a her who posted the racial element unless you know something different to the identity."
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
Can you give some examples?"
Fanning the flames of hatred against jk rowling, anti-semitic agenda to appeal to corbynistas during that madmans time in the sun, anti family, anti conservative values, open bullying of previous writers there such as suzanne moore for daring to stand up for women's rights |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy
Presumably you know them all personally?"
No just a generalisation based on a stand up I once saw. It was really funny , they had a child called Tarquin who they dressed up to celebrate every cultures religious festivals apart from the English ones. |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy
Presumably you know them all personally?
No just a generalisation based on a stand up I once saw. It was really funny , they had a child called Tarquin who they dressed up to celebrate every cultures religious festivals apart from the English ones."
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy
Presumably you know them all personally?
No just a generalisation based on a stand up I once saw. It was really funny , they had a child called Tarquin who they dressed up to celebrate every cultures religious festivals apart from the English ones.
So you are, therefore, well equipped with the facts about all Guardian journalists. Evidently "
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over a year ago
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
Can you give some examples?
Fanning the flames of hatred against jk rowling, anti-semitic agenda to appeal to corbynistas during that madmans time in the sun, anti family, anti conservative values, open bullying of previous writers there such as suzanne moore for daring to stand up for women's rights"
They are much worse now than 10 years ago. I think along with BBC & some big universities they got infiltrated by momentum as part of the Corbyn campaign. The intelligentsia can’t win an election but they can control policy and culture from there |
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
Can you give some examples?
Fanning the flames of hatred against jk rowling, anti-semitic agenda to appeal to corbynistas during that madmans time in the sun, anti family, anti conservative values, open bullying of previous writers there such as suzanne moore for daring to stand up for women's rights
They are much worse now than 10 years ago. I think along with BBC & some big universities they got infiltrated by momentum as part of the Corbyn campaign. The intelligentsia can’t win an election but they can control policy and culture from there "
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
Can you give some examples?
Fanning the flames of hatred against jk rowling, anti-semitic agenda to appeal to corbynistas during that madmans time in the sun, anti family, anti conservative values, open bullying of previous writers there such as suzanne moore for daring to stand up for women's rights"
In what way are they anti-family?
Which Conservative values are they anti?
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty. "
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
The ones that have a lot to answer for are far right gutter press that create an anti immigration and stirs up hatred and indifference that allow the type of people who use these kids and sell them for nefarious reasons. Hatred of immigrants fosters indifference and that is the real problem here.
The same people that are indifferent are the ones that have destroyed the economy by voting brexit to satisfy their little Englander mindset.
Brexit to blame then
The mindset of insuler little Englanders whi want to demonise anyone that isn't like them colour/ race religion/ ect that lead to stupid decisions are to blame. I cannot understand why there is so much hate towards desperate people who are es aping war and poverty.
Tom is no fan of the French but sad to hear that they are a war torn nation..."
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
Youre not wrong there Tom
I'd be interested what you both think the Guardian has to answer for?"
For not writing things with a political view they support. The left wing rag is a clue.
I don't think he would be bothered if they hired private detectives to hack people's phones and bribed the police etc though.
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
Youre not wrong there Tom
I'd be interested what you both think the Guardian has to answer for?
For not writing things with a political view they support. The left wing rag is a clue.
I don't think he would be bothered if they hired private detectives to hack people's phones and bribed the police etc though.
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"Let’s just say for instance some of them were adults (young adults !!) does that make trafficking any better ?
How would you feel about your young adult children being forced into drug trafficking sex work etc ? My son will be 21 this year and he’s still very much my baby ! My 17&18 year olds are both very vulnerable as well but here in Scotland they’re classed as adults
If they were white British kids being taken from children’s homes (where many can stay up till they are 20) there would be public outrage "
There are on average 110,000 children reported missing in the UK every year, it does happen here and has done for a long time, out of any home. |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children.
They aren’t missing they are just off grid paying back the money they paid criminals to get here.
Guardian is written and read by those people living in the nice part of town , they go for a curry once a week and think they are cultural and edgy
Presumably you know them all personally?
No just a generalisation based on a stand up I once saw. It was really funny , they had a child called Tarquin who they dressed up to celebrate every cultures religious festivals apart from the English ones.
So you are, therefore, well equipped with the facts about all Guardian journalists. Evidently
Hes not wrong though is he"
I have absolutely no idea. I don't know any Guardian journalists personally and of the "celebrities" who write, I might assume they enjoy the occasional meal out, yes, but I have no idea where or even how that's relevant to what they write? |
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I would just like to point out when I post on an open forum I do so because I want to talk openly about what I’m posting
I do not want to discuss it over PM hence why I’ve posted on an open forum !
This post doesn’t require unsolicited messages so if anyone has anything to say please keep it to the forum
I’m actually quite an intelligent female who’s highly Opinionated at times but I’m also someone who can and often does see a case for most sides in any given argument ! I’m a professional and successful career woman within a male orientated environment, I’ve faced adversity and saw it in abundance, I know my own mind so there’s no point trying to change it otherwise misogyny doesn’t work with me ! |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Adults claiming to be children are not a children. "
Contravercial. But probably closer to the truth than Any of the news media will report. |
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Just read through the entire thread.
Such a shame there is so much venom, and the initial subject matter gets thrown to the wayside.
I pity every migrant of every age and fear especially for the children.
But regardless of their ages, every single migrant is vulnerable.
My heart goes out to them |
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"I would just like to point out when I post on an open forum I do so because I want to talk openly about what I’m posting
I do not want to discuss it over PM hence why I’ve posted on an open forum !
Very eloquently put. Here here. Some ppl like to conveniently forget that not to long ago millions died in order to allow them the freedom to express an opinion and openly debate it.
This post doesn’t require unsolicited messages so if anyone has anything to say please keep it to the forum
I’m actually quite an intelligent female who’s highly Opinionated at times but I’m also someone who can and often does see a case for most sides in any given argument ! I’m a professional and successful career woman within a male orientated environment, I’ve faced adversity and saw it in abundance, I know my own mind so there’s no point trying to change it otherwise misogyny doesn’t work with me ! "
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There's quite a lot of news not reported in the mainstream UK channels - I try and look everywhere to get a reasoned perspective. Some glaring omissions I've seen recently include:
600,000 dead so far in the war (Ethiopia/Eritrea) which I saw on Al Jazeera
The war in Rwanda - I saw on the English language German world service
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"Just read through the entire thread.
Such a shame there is so much venom, and the initial subject matter gets thrown to the wayside.
I pity every migrant of every age and fear especially for the children.
But regardless of their ages, every single migrant is vulnerable.
My heart goes out to them "
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"I would just like to point out when I post on an open forum I do so because I want to talk openly about what I’m posting
I do not want to discuss it over PM hence why I’ve posted on an open forum !
This post doesn’t require unsolicited messages so if anyone has anything to say please keep it to the forum
I’m actually quite an intelligent female who’s highly Opinionated at times but I’m also someone who can and often does see a case for most sides in any given argument ! I’m a professional and successful career woman within a male orientated environment, I’ve faced adversity and saw it in abundance, I know my own mind so there’s no point trying to change it otherwise misogyny doesn’t work with me ! "
Agreed! I've had dms on the back of this thread to spew their vitorol! If u brave enough to say it say it here please! X |
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"Just read through the entire thread.
Such a shame there is so much venom, and the initial subject matter gets thrown to the wayside.
I pity every migrant of every age and fear especially for the children.
But regardless of their ages, every single migrant is vulnerable.
My heart goes out to them "
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If they haven’t put them in the mainstream news, there will be issues relating to child protection in itself. Highlighting them as vulnerable to wider society, therefore increasing the risk to them.
I haven’t seen or read the article, but there are always specific reasons as to why things wouldn’t be highlighted too much.
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They may or may not be kids. But does that really matter if we have designated them as kids ?
But even if you want to go down this vitriolic "they are adult route", then a huge number of adults are slipping the net to be real illegal immigrants working the black market. Okay with that ?
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I have had the privilege to work with some unaccompanied asylum seekers who have come to Britain not knowing if they will ever be reunited with family, or even if the rest of their family is alive. Some of them have witnessed their parents being murdered. Some had already been trafficked. Most of these children arrive with very little English and no papers. In every country they travel through, they have been bullied, strip searched, treated like vermin - including France and other European countries. They are highly vulnerable children. I am deeply concerned that any of these children have not been safeguarded sufficiently to prevent them going missing. These children have no family to return home to. They are alone and have been through traumatic experiences hopefully none of us ever have to endure. |
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"I have had the privilege to work with some unaccompanied asylum seekers who have come to Britain not knowing if they will ever be reunited with family, or even if the rest of their family is alive. Some of them have witnessed their parents being murdered. Some had already been trafficked. Most of these children arrive with very little English and no papers. In every country they travel through, they have been bullied, strip searched, treated like vermin - including France and other European countries. They are highly vulnerable children. I am deeply concerned that any of these children have not been safeguarded sufficiently to prevent them going missing. These children have no family to return home to. They are alone and have been through traumatic experiences hopefully none of us ever have to endure. "
Maxiumum respect. |
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"I have had the privilege to work with some unaccompanied asylum seekers who have come to Britain not knowing if they will ever be reunited with family, or even if the rest of their family is alive. Some of them have witnessed their parents being murdered. Some had already been trafficked. Most of these children arrive with very little English and no papers. In every country they travel through, they have been bullied, strip searched, treated like vermin - including France and other European countries. They are highly vulnerable children. I am deeply concerned that any of these children have not been safeguarded sufficiently to prevent them going missing. These children have no family to return home to. They are alone and have been through traumatic experiences hopefully none of us ever have to endure. "
Thank you for the work you do. I know it is appreciated by many, especially those who need to use the services. A friend of mine volunteers in refuge charities and she has some dreadful stories of the situations that people are in or where they've come from. |
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
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Coming from a country making a brainwashing propaganda to inject an experimental "vaccine" in children, I'm not surprised. |
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"I have had the privilege to work with some unaccompanied asylum seekers who have come to Britain not knowing if they will ever be reunited with family, or even if the rest of their family is alive. Some of them have witnessed their parents being murdered. Some had already been trafficked. Most of these children arrive with very little English and no papers. In every country they travel through, they have been bullied, strip searched, treated like vermin - including France and other European countries. They are highly vulnerable children. I am deeply concerned that any of these children have not been safeguarded sufficiently to prevent them going missing. These children have no family to return home to. They are alone and have been through traumatic experiences hopefully none of us ever have to endure. "
A sensible, qualified, objective opinion? On the Fab forum? Bloody hell!
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"so it would appear that the mainstream news channels aren’t reporting on a major child protection crisis in the UK !!
Is this a case of not our children not our problem !!
To say I’m feeling sick to my stomach after reading this today is an understatement
136 !!! Not 1or 2 missing children but 136
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/21/they-just-vanish-whistleblowers-met-by-wall-of-complacency-over-missing-migrant-children
Coming from a country making a brainwashing propaganda to inject an experimental "vaccine" in children, I'm not surprised."
Ah, that's more the sort of nonsense I was expecting. As you were... |
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"The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for....
As oppossed to the Right wing no dom owned gutter press like the scum/daily whail/the torygraph/Fairly express who busily hide the real news stories and there never ending hate campaigns against just anouth anything or anyone who dares have a opposing opinion and love the daily whail flag shagging readership waving their flags whilst doffing their collective caps and tugging their forelocks ?? and the irony of their front page ysterday ?? from a paper owned by a multi millionaire non uk tax paying owner who can't even be bothered to live in the Uk most times ? and don't forget murdochs posh mouth piece the times ?? truly loathsome little man ???
Cant they both be gutter rags?
You still haven't saud what's wrong with the guardian?
Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
The guardian has an extreme left agenda?
Can you give some examples?
Fanning the flames of hatred against jk rowling, anti-semitic agenda to appeal to corbynistas during that madmans time in the sun, anti family, anti conservative values, open bullying of previous writers there such as suzanne moore for daring to stand up for women's rights"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read about it yesterday and it made me feel physically sick.
Children being bundled into cars by gangs.. outside hotels! Unaccompanied children in hotels by themselves just going missing. Horrific! |
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Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
Hang on.
Is it far left or is it liberal?
It can't be both. "
Socially liberal is left. The modern day version of that, as espoused by outlets like the guardian, is far left of the political spectrum |
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Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
Hang on.
Is it far left or is it liberal?
It can't be both.
Socially liberal is left. The modern day version of that, as espoused by outlets like the guardian, is far left of the political spectrum"
I think the Guardian is pretty centre politically - certainly not extreme in any way. Interesting how we view politics... |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
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Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
Hang on.
Is it far left or is it liberal?
It can't be both.
Socially liberal is left. The modern day version of that, as espoused by outlets like the guardian, is far left of the political spectrum"
I'm still struggling despite the examples you gave yesterday of seeing any evidence that the Guardian is far let or extreme left.
It may feel like that after the media convinced everyone Corbyn was a Marxist despite most of his views sitting in liberal with many liberal and left wing European counterparts, but if you look at the political spectrum.as a who with communism/Marxism (like actual communism and Marxism not what is bandied around as an insult) and fascism on the other end then it feels ridiculous to suggest that the Guardian sirs anywhere other than left of centre. Its hardly the Morning Star is it? |
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Far left liberal agenda
I abhor extremism
Hang on.
Is it far left or is it liberal?
It can't be both.
Socially liberal is left. The modern day version of that, as espoused by outlets like the guardian, is far left of the political spectrum
I think the Guardian is pretty centre politically - certainly not extreme in any way. Interesting how we view politics... "
Socially liberal, not necessarily political |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian newspaper targets a well- educated, affluent, digitally-savvy, liberal audience. The demographic is 86% ABC1. 54% of The Guardian readers are male, and the average age of the print reader is 54.18 Jan 2022
Not mainstream news !!
What are the 5 biggest media companies in the UK?
Media organisations
Channel 4.
Global (Classic FM, Heart, Smooth, Radio X and LBC)
ITV.
Sky UK.
UKTV.
Virgin Media.
Warner Bros TV Productions UK.
Wireless Group (talkSPORT, Virgin Radio).
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Just because you don’t read it doesn’t make it not mainstream. It’s a nationally distributed print newspaper with its own website.
I’m not a Guardian reader although based on the stats you shared I should be. |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for"
I saw the title and thought this was one of your posts Essex Tom! Lol
 
Back to my witch lair/troll hovel...Ta, Love.  |
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It’s been on the bbc news app for a couple of days but not front and centre like it should be, mainstream media surely hides a lot of stuff where the government are failing and there is thinking in the fact it’s migrants and migrants don’t sell clicks or papers so it’s not newsworthy, we have failed as a species, abject shit show, aliens come here and roll their eyes, there should be no borders, there would be a lot less war, there should be peace and love, education and progress, and that’s not the mushrooms talking |
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By *ee04Man
over a year ago
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Just thought I’d throw something in this debate,
The term “hate mail” actually came into being because of the daily mail not because someone sent a nasty letter.
I do not read any newspaper before anyone makes an assumption.
The last time I read anything in a news paper except the football or cricket was over 30 years ago. The only reason I read the football or cricket was someone left a rag lying around. The Sun I would not even pick up let alone read.
We do live in a country were many are influenced by outdated insular ideas.
They think we are still a big player on the world stage and have lots of influence around the world, that like the economy is shrinking faster every day.
There is no empire anymore, we do not rule the waves, we are not a global power wake up smell the coffee.
Their insular ideals have more in common with Russia and places like Iran, they are outdated and irrelevant in a work view. |
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"If the Guardian isn’t mainstream news/media the I don’t know what is.
The Guardian is an ultra left wing rag that has a lot to answer for
I saw the title and thought this was one of your posts Essex Tom! Lol
Back to my witch lair/troll hovel...Ta, Love. "
Tom generally avoids discussing the newspapers. He prefers to concentrate on the news |
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"Just thought I’d throw something in this debate,
The term “hate mail” actually came into being because of the daily mail not because someone sent a nasty letter.
I do not read any newspaper before anyone makes an assumption.
The last time I read anything in a news paper except the football or cricket was over 30 years ago. The only reason I read the football or cricket was someone left a rag lying around. The Sun I would not even pick up let alone read.
We do live in a country were many are influenced by outdated insular ideas.
They think we are still a big player on the world stage and have lots of influence around the world, that like the economy is shrinking faster every day.
There is no empire anymore, we do not rule the waves, we are not a global power wake up smell the coffee.
Their insular ideals have more in common with Russia and places like Iran, they are outdated and irrelevant in a work view. "
Yet the majority voted for Brexit. Oh what fools...
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