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Sugar Daddies- is it Desperation?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

I mean maybe not desperation but more wanting a young hot 20 year old to fuck them.

Alot of these things these days which require payment are just...posher prostitution effectively. Not that that's a bad thing at all! You pay for good service all the time in real life x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

It's very popular in America. Sugar daddies paying for the education of college girls. I don't think a proper sugar daddy just pays for shopping trips I think they mentor them as well.

If I was 18 again I don't think I'd say no to a true sugar daddy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

This. Both sides.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

Some men never get any interest from women. That's enough to make anyone desperate.

Imagine you never had a message from one year to the next. They have to try something else to have some time with the opposite sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldn’t say so each to they own they aren’t doing anyone any harm

As long as all parties are comfortable with the arrangement

Don’t see a problem with it at all

Maybe they aren’t comfortable with see a bad word

So find it easier to offer a shopping trip for some company for the night

As long as both parties are upfront from the get go

and not leading one on in expectation

I have herd off some sugerees

Suggest sex but have no intention off it

Also herd off some daddy’s expecting sex when it was never on offer

As long as both parties cards are on the table on what’s on offer then no harm done

As long as one’s not playing the other for a fool

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I wouldn’t say so each to they own they aren’t doing anyone any harm

As long as all parties are comfortable with the arrangement

Don’t see a problem with it at all

Maybe they aren’t comfortable with see a bad word

So find it easier to offer a shopping trip for some company for the night

As long as both parties are upfront from the get go

and not leading one on in expectation

I have herd off some sugerees

Suggest sex but have no intention off it

Also herd off some daddy’s expecting sex when it was never on offer

As long as both parties cards are on the table on what’s on offer then no harm done

As long as one’s not playing the other for a fool

I think your last line is telling- sometimes older men praying on naive young women?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I wouldn’t say so each to they own they aren’t doing anyone any harm

As long as all parties are comfortable with the arrangement

Don’t see a problem with it at all

Maybe they aren’t comfortable with see a bad word

So find it easier to offer a shopping trip for some company for the night

As long as both parties are upfront from the get go

and not leading one on in expectation

I have herd off some sugerees

Suggest sex but have no intention off it

Also herd off some daddy’s expecting sex when it was never on offer

As long as both parties cards are on the table on what’s on offer then no harm done

As long as one’s not playing the other for a fool

I think your last line is telling- sometimes older men praying on naive young women?"

No that wasn’t what I was meaning

Buy that

What I was meaning

Is the “cringe I hate say this word but only way to explain it” daddy expect sex when the sugaree has explicitly sed there wouldn’t be any

Or the other way around the sugaree being suggestive that sex is on the table and then late on after the shopping trip is over take it off the table

I understand everybody has the right to change they minds and all and I am fully for that

But could be seen as leading someone on to get something

Just a fine line as sed if all cards are on the table and both are ok with it and no harm is being done then leave them be

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are a lot of ladies who will take a sugar daddy… probably more so this day and age

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, and being a libra, the imbalance would make my head explode

But if one person enjoys buying gifts and treating someone, and the other is happy to be treated - it all works, and no harm done. No?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think hardly any of these women are naive. They know exactly what they're doing. And why the hell not I say. As soon as someone comes along (with or without money) that they truly want/love, they'd be off

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "
does it work though?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, and being a libra, the imbalance would make my head explode

But if one person enjoys buying gifts and treating someone, and the other is happy to be treated - it all works, and no harm done. No?"

So very true…

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By *orthern StarsCouple over a year ago

Durham

Does it really matter? Up to them how they live their lives and spend their money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, and being a libra, the imbalance would make my head explode

But if one person enjoys buying gifts and treating someone, and the other is happy to be treated - it all works, and no harm done. No?"

I think its the transactional quality of it that makes me dislike it.

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By *jonesMan over a year ago

Plymouth

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

I would have to be unbelievably desperate to take anyone shopping...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sugar thing is definitely sex work. If 2 grown consenting adults want to make it transactional then good for them.

I have friends that have been daddies and turned into regular relationships.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. does it work though?

Yip it dose work a former “agent” to lot off big IG models got canned and done a dish all

On how sed IG model got her car and what not

On a podcast on YouTube

Basically

Dish was they didn’t have a lambo

They agent got contact for a “phone” shoot over in arab emirates

A private plane picked them up they left and came back the next day with a lambo getting delivered to they door and 100k worth off clothing and jewellery

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How many men pay for everything on a first date ?

I do because in my mind it’s the right thing to do.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"How many men pay for everything on a first date ?

I do because in my mind it’s the right thing to do.

I date younger women and sometimes do pay on a first date but it’s really not a big deal.

People with much more money than me , often buy me dinner, including women and I have no issue accepting their generosity.

Very few people with money cannot spot a leech or pseudo-hook*r.

When I do spot them I’m pretty brutal. I once got told that asking her to pay half was the biggest insult a man could give a woman in her culture.,I said good , that was my intention - now get your card out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many men pay for everything on a first date ?

I do because in my mind it’s the right thing to do.

The first date for me is always a coffee so paying for both isn't really an issue

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many men pay for everything on a first date ?

I do because in my mind it’s the right thing to do.

A coffee and a walk in the park yes sure. Anything more should be 50/50

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

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By *jonesMan over a year ago

Plymouth

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

I don't think so, not normal nice women...

Most I've met on here , tinder etc have certainly offered

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right."

That’s odd. If she offers to pay I let her! What if she’s earning 10x what you are?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many men pay for everything on a first date ?

I do because in my mind it’s the right thing to do.

A coffee and a walk in the park yes sure. Anything more should be 50/50 "

I have a friend on the dating scene in Paris , she was telling me how miserly the Parisian men (she met) are on first dates, as they’d be in a park.

If it goes well, an offer to go to dinner would be 2nd date lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

That’s odd. If she offers to pay I let her! What if she’s earning 10x what you are? "

Regardless. I wouldn't want her to pay.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

That’s odd. If she offers to pay I let her! What if she’s earning 10x what you are? "

Is it about earnings though, or paying your way?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

In my experience of the ladies I’ve dated, they’d let me pay if the first date went well, and if they don’t want to meet again they’d insist going Dutch.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

That’s odd. If she offers to pay I let her! What if she’s earning 10x what you are?

Is it about earnings though, or paying your way?

It’s about paying my way for me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not one to judge the sort of relationships others choose. I've certainly not seemed to pick the right one myself yet so i would feel weird calling someone else desperate. The way I see it they both get something out of it so no big deal.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right."

Why? I earn more than my husband......

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

I'd be a pretty shit sugar daddy, given the highlight of most of my shopping trips is the middle aisle at Aldi.....

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By *elvet RopeMan over a year ago

by the big field

"I wouldn’t say so each to they own they aren’t doing anyone any harm

As long as all parties are comfortable with the arrangement

Don’t see a problem with it at all

Maybe they aren’t comfortable with see a bad word

So find it easier to offer a shopping trip for some company for the night

As long as both parties are upfront from the get go

and not leading one on in expectation

I have herd off some sugerees

Suggest sex but have no intention off it

Also herd off some daddy’s expecting sex when it was never on offer

As long as both parties cards are on the table on what’s on offer then no harm done

As long as one’s not playing the other for a fool

I think your last line is telling- sometimes older men praying on naive young women?"

Wow! you're not at all biased...all those poor naive girls on here posting ads for one, they have not the slightest clue what they're doing- poor things!

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

I would never entertain it. I am not a walking atm machine for some lazy cow who has nothing to offer but mediocre sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

If ..now..IF ..a person is " into " this type of scenario, the best of luck to them , each are getting what they want , the guy is f***ing a beautiful lady and the girl is getting financially rewarded for doing the same , it's not everyone's cup of tea but whoever is into that is into that , both see money as being able to provide so hey ..off they go and do it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would never entertain it. I am not a walking atm machine for some lazy cow who has nothing to offer but mediocre sex.

Tell us how you REALLY feel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

They don't go down that road at all , they simply meet the Rich older guy and he looks after everything financially.

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

Yes about 70% expect to have everything paid for them on here and in the vanilla dating world.

I know wonrn that date every evening and get s free meal every day of the week.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

I thought that was the definition of marriage

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its just Capitalism. We encourage Capitalism and yet we sneer at the women who turn it to their advantage.

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Foodie calls are a trend for most women on the dating scene.

But ask your female friends if they would want to pay 50 50 on a first date.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I don't view it as a negative thing, where parties to an arrangement get their needs satisfied. It may not include a direct sexual relationship.

Many people no longer want to be anything other than single, so finding ways to satisfy some of their needs, seems like good practical common sense.

It's not always men who provide sugar. It mostly is, as it reflects our society and financial inequality.

I don't think you should view these people as desperate, that would seem both ignorant and insensitive to people who are finding their own way in life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

Indeed they are. Have been seeing an increasing number of such profiles appearing on fab

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By *ady LickWoman over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"Foodie calls are a trend for most women on the dating scene.

But ask your female friends if they would want to pay 50 50 on a first date. "

Mine would!

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By *ellinever70Woman over a year ago

Ayrshire

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Yes about 70% expect to have everything paid for them on here and in the vanilla dating world.

I know wonrn that date every evening and get s free meal every day of the week.

That's a really bold claim

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Foodie calls are a trend for most women on the dating scene.

But ask your female friends if they would want to pay 50 50 on a first date. "

All my friends would expect to pay for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere."

Please will you pay for my 10k entry?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's both using eachother.. time is money as the saying goes!

Definitely not my thing as for dates who pays etc shouldn't even be a conversation, if you ask someone would they like to meet at a nice restaurant in my mind that's on you, if your a prolific dater it would get expensive

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By *ensuallover1000Man over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

See, this uncertainty regarding the final bill is exactly why I always take ladies on really cheap dates; ‘McDonalds luv?’

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

It's basically like being a sex worker and punter without the title, even if I was filthy rich I wouldn't be paying for someone to spend time with me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

This...

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere."

I've never had that, maybe you're picking badly as going dutch is the modern way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

Please will you pay for my 10k entry?!

No chance but I'll buy you lunch if you beat your PB

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By *unRunFun7965Man over a year ago

Pittsburgh

Yes

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

Please will you pay for my 10k entry?!

No chance but I'll buy you lunch if you beat your PB

You're on

Will you buy lunch for everyone else too!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

Not me, I offer to either pay or pay my share. I like being solvent and I like being independent...it's my way of saying to a man, 'this is me, and I can look after myself'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

I've never had that, maybe you're picking badly as going dutch is the modern way "

It’s the tight-ass way you mean lol.

If a lady wants to go Dutch sure, I wouldn’t want her to feel uncomfortable. If she’s happy for me to be chivalrous, that works perfectly fine for me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

Please will you pay for my 10k entry?!

No chance but I'll buy you lunch if you beat your PB

You're on

Will you buy lunch for everyone else too!!

No worries, see you at Greggs

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By *hisisntpofMan over a year ago

bristol

Its alot easier to go for meal ,have the best of everything ,and just befor the bill arrives make an excuse to visit the little boys room leaving the money motivated date at the table and exit the building

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

I've never had that, maybe you're picking badly as going dutch is the modern way "

There's only so much Edam a man can eat though.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

Please will you pay for my 10k entry?!

No chance but I'll buy you lunch if you beat your PB

You're on

Will you buy lunch for everyone else too!!

No worries, see you at Greggs

Cheeky sod

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By *ellinever70Woman over a year ago

Ayrshire

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

I'm not unwilling

But I'm also past the point of getting into some charade about insisting if a guy picks up the bill. I've nothing prove

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Not me, I offer to either pay or pay my share. I like being solvent and I like being independent...it's my way of saying to a man, 'this is me, and I can look after myself'"

As a chivalrous guy, I have paid for dates fully, even with my female date earning 5x of my salary. Independence and affordability wasn’t in the mind of the ladies I’ve dated.

Of course if they pushed to go Dutch then I’d oblige, as I want them to feel comfortable.

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By *elly72Woman over a year ago

glasgow

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them.

I mean maybe not desperation but more wanting a young hot 20 year old to fuck them.

Alot of these things these days which require payment are just...posher prostitution effectively. Not that that's a bad thing at all! You pay for good service all the time in real life x"

Not just 20 year olds though I’ve had offers but I doubt they have 2 bob to rub together let alone give me all the pretty things lol

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By *icolerobbieCouple over a year ago

walsall

Prostitution pure and simple.

Each exploiting the other.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

That’s odd. If she offers to pay I let her! What if she’s earning 10x what you are?

Is it about earnings though, or paying your way?

It’s about paying my way for me "

Same.

I don't want to be "beholden", to anyone. I have paid for coffee dates sometimes too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Not me, I offer to either pay or pay my share. I like being solvent and I like being independent...it's my way of saying to a man, 'this is me, and I can look after myself'"

Same.

I remember my work colleagues being shocked when I said I'd paid the entire bill after a date.

I enjoyed the food, enjoyed his company and I was the higher earner. Wasn't that shocking to me.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

Personally I feel there are a lot of young ladies that go for a sugar daddy as a form of security whereby they can get a regular allowance to help with with their studies or if a loan parent help with the cost of bring up a child or children in exchange for sex.

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By *avexxMan over a year ago

cheshire

dont like the idea doesnt sit well with me,,

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By *ackbydemandMan over a year ago

Leicester

"It makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, and being a libra, the imbalance would make my head explode

But if one person enjoys buying gifts and treating someone, and the other is happy to be treated - it all works, and no harm done. No?"

Red you have hit the nail on the head, everything in moderation. When does buying something sexy from Ann Summers being OK, become not OK because 50 grand has gone on designer watches, holidays, etc. The same applies for everything else, there may be a sub/dom relationship where a smack on the bum eventually becomes physical abuse. It's all dependent on the people, pushing the boundaries of what people would normally accept is part of what we do, you just need to know when not to take that one step too far.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Prostitution pure and simple.

Each exploiting the other.

I would disagree it’s exploiting.

Exploiting is one has a hold or power over another.it seems there is a fair exchange, if we park morality to one side.

And who knows what the morality police think about swingers lol.

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By *uzie69xTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

Mum has always said to her girls... Don't be like me, dependant on your dad...

So we're all suuuuper independent. All except one sister who is a "kept woman" and I would say she is the least happy and satisfied with her life...

That said, I can't even get my boyfriends to buy me a handbag... I think they're expect the Singapore Airlines service... For free!

Ker-bloody-ching!

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Some bitches just want money and will use their cunt to get it! Am right?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Prostitution pure and simple.

Each exploiting the other.

I would disagree it’s exploiting.

Exploiting is one has a hold or power over another.it seems there is a fair exchange, if we park morality to one side.

And who knows what the morality police think about swingers lol. "

Hmmmm. Is a fair exchange for one person to buy another relatively inexpensive undies from Ann Summers? Almost certainly.

£50k watch? Holidays? University fees? In these relationships, there's usually one person of very good means (financially) and one of far poorer means. There's definitely a strong possibility of exploitation, when there's a massive disparity in the financial means, within a relationship based around money.

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By *ixedDevilMan over a year ago

Bootyville

Where the sugar mummies at?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

They don't go down that road at all , they simply meet the Rich older guy and he looks after everything financially."

No, I understand how a Sugar Parent (because it’s not just Sugar Daddies)/Sugar Baby relationship works, I was responding to comments in the thread related to dating/meets and women expecting men to pay for them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Some bitches just want money and will use their cunt to get it! Am right?

Bit rude to call the Sugar Daddy a cunt!

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

In my experience its 50/50.

One fab friend expected us to pick up the tab for absolutely everything, even after we stopped being fab friends….

The other fab friend hates me even moving towards my wallet when we are out and about.

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By *hisisntpofMan over a year ago

bristol

"Where the sugar mummies at?

Nice call

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By *uzie69xTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

"Where the sugar mummies at?

I was buying my toyboy his Christmas present at perfume counter... The 30ml bottle was £50 and the £130 ml bottle was £100...

I'll have the big one I said...

Oh you don't have to do that hun, he said

... I'm not your gigolo...

"Of course you are"... I said, handing my AmEx to the assistant... winking at her... who didn't know where to smirk...

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"Some bitches just want money and will use their cunt to get it! Am right?

Bit rude to call the Sugar Daddy a cunt!

But I am one (apparently)

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By *icolerobbieCouple over a year ago

walsall

"Prostitution pure and simple.

Each exploiting the other.

I would disagree it’s exploiting.

Exploiting is one has a hold or power over another.it seems there is a fair exchange, if we park morality to one side.

And who knows what the morality police think about swingers lol.

Hmmmm. Is a fair exchange for one person to buy another relatively inexpensive undies from Ann Summers? Almost certainly.

Absolutely this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Foodie calls are a trend for most women on the dating scene.

But ask your female friends if they would want to pay 50 50 on a first date.

All my friends would expect to pay for themselves. "

And mine. Whenever I’ve talked about this with other women they’ve always said they’d pay their way.

It’s an incredibly archaic view that the man should pay.

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By *ixedDevilMan over a year ago

Bootyville

"Where the sugar mummies at?

I was buying my toyboy his Christmas present at perfume counter... The 30ml bottle was £50 and the £130 ml bottle was £100...

I'll have the big one I said...

Oh you don't have to do that hun, he said

... I'm not your gigolo...

"Of course you are"... I said, handing my AmEx to the assistant... winking at her... who didn't know where to smirk..."

I need this in my life right now!

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By *uzie69xTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

"I need this in my life right now!

Let me know when you're free and your postcode... I'll send the driver...

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

Fab is the only place I've met women who expected me to pay. Never experienced it elsewhere.

I've never had that, maybe you're picking badly as going dutch is the modern way

It’s the tight-ass way you mean lol.

If a lady wants to go Dutch sure, I wouldn’t want her to feel uncomfortable. If she’s happy for me to be chivalrous, that works perfectly fine for me. "

You said they expected you to pay, that's not you being chivalrous

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

"Foodie calls are a trend for most women on the dating scene.

But ask your female friends if they would want to pay 50 50 on a first date.

All my friends would expect to pay for themselves.

And mine. Whenever I’ve talked about this with other women they’ve always said they’d pay their way.

It’s an incredibly archaic view that the man should pay."

Makes some guys feel small I guess if they don't get to pay it all themselves, not me though as I'm all for equality

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

Oh i could do with a shopping trip! Where do I sign up

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By *ylan11Man over a year ago

osterley

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

Sugar daddies have the money that make dreams come true for a few and most adhere to their host

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them.

Sugar daddies have the money that make dreams come true for a few and most adhere to their host

x"
Adhere to what?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

I wouldn't expect a woman to pay a penny. It just doesn't seem right.

Why? I earn more than my husband......"

It's just what I expect to do

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple over a year ago

Leeds

Desperation from the sugar daddy. Prostitution from the woman.

The mr

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By *lecom1Couple over a year ago

Stornoway

Is there such a thing as a sugar mummy?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from the sugar daddy. Prostitution from the woman.

The mr "

You think ? Desperation might be a bit much tbh , maybe he doesn't want any serious relationship and is only going down that road as he finds it easier ? As regards the Woman maybe she wants cash to pay for collage etc and when that is over so is her Sugar Daddy..who knows , l fully understand that some people play the part of what you have said but a lot of others do have alternative motives that in this World which can be financially hard they find no other alternative and go down that road, tbh it's not a situation l'd personally want if l was filthy rich financially , l personally wouldn't want it myself that lm only getting laid because l have money.. anyway l suppose people do .. people don't .. whatever is said here isn't gonna change their minds on what they do some like to be in that World of Sugar Daddie's ..others don't.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Is there such a thing as a sugar mummy?"

I want one of those , just for a day! Would he nice to be spoiled for a change!

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"Where the sugar mummies at?

I was buying my toyboy his Christmas present at perfume counter... The 30ml bottle was £50 and the £130 ml bottle was £100...

I'll have the big one I said...

Oh you don't have to do that hun, he said

... I'm not your gigolo...

"Of course you are"... I said, handing my AmEx to the assistant... winking at her... who didn't know where to smirk..."

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them.

Sugar daddies have the money that make dreams come true for a few and most adhere to their host

Exactly this. Lots of Thai Brides do this and the relationship Is nurtured. If its one sided and especially if gained under any deception it's prostitution.

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By *ydrewMan over a year ago

matlock

How about a sugar couple. Both of them can spoil me

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"Some bitches just want money and will use their cunt to get it! Am right?

There's a man who messages me almost monthly, clearly models himself on a veri I once displayed but adds the opportunity of spoiling me as well.

I think for some women receiving a message like that from someone like that would be a definite yes and I can sort of understand the appeal of a sugar baby lifestyle - I've never been spoiled for the day and it must be kind of nice to have that attention lavished on you. Not thinking/worrying about things.

Then again, the common sense kicks in a few seconds later and I remember I'm a) too used to paying and b) too old.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Desperation from the sugar daddy. Prostitution from the woman.

The mr "

Often. Not always.

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By *eavenscentitCouple over a year ago

barnstaple

If some old fool wants to pay be it man or woman, and the recipient is willing fill your boots.

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By *unthum62Man over a year ago

Benidorm

The first thing I would say is any girl advertising for a Sugar Daddy is probably not naive and understands what she is asking for. The degree may vary but the principle is clear.

If two people choose this agreement, good luck to them both as long as they both get what they want from it and keep to the agreement.

In a non sugar scenario my old traditional senses tell me I want to pay and I like to be nice and enjoy giving gifts. Not a Lambo though.

Ladies of negotiable affection have existed since time began. Sugar relationships are just a different take on that.

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

A sugar daddy is a guy who has money to burn who treats a younger female say like shes a princess....... Whats wrong with that? Not sure who could be classed as "desperate" in that scenario.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"A sugar daddy is a guy who has money to burn who treats a younger female say like shes a princess....... Whats wrong with that? Not sure who could be classed as "desperate" in that scenario.

The thought is unable to attract without wealth. People being used for their assets, strikes a distasteful chord with many is all.

Loads of people have a successful nurturing sugar relationship. It's when the cash hungry overstep their morals, and become coldhearted that people tend to remember.

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By *asycouple1971Couple over a year ago

midlands

If both are ok with it then I see nothing wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is there such a thing as a sugar mummy?"

Sugar tits!?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"The first thing I would say is any girl advertising for a Sugar Daddy is probably not naive and understands what she is asking for. The degree may vary but the principle is clear.

I disagree. There are plenty of people who enter into such arrangements out of desperation and therefore are at risk of being exploited in some way. It might be a carefully planned/calculated thing for some, but for others, it's definitely not. We've heard some unpleasant stories via people at universities, mainly about the nature of the sexual activity expected by the person holding the purse strings. That's mainly where the danger lies.

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By *unthum62Man over a year ago

Benidorm

"The first thing I would say is any girl advertising for a Sugar Daddy is probably not naive and understands what she is asking for. The degree may vary but the principle is clear.

I suppose there is that risk that the Sugar Daddy makes unreasonable demands that go beyond expectations.

That happens in any relationship area really. Predatory partners exploiting the other persons naivety or weaknesses.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"The first thing I would say is any girl advertising for a Sugar Daddy is probably not naive and understands what she is asking for. The degree may vary but the principle is clear.

I suppose there is that risk that the Sugar Daddy makes unreasonable demands that go beyond expectations.

That happens in any relationship area really. Predatory partners exploiting the other persons naivety or weaknesses. "

Indeed, but it's rare for genuine relationships to be so transactional. It's the "I'm giving you money/expensive stuff" aspect that helps in creating a possibly coercive situation.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple over a year ago

Staffordshire

We’d like sugar parents please.

Any couples out there wanna spoil us rotten and take us to a jungle gym?

Also… boys like sparkling gifts too. (Just saying)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We’d like sugar parents please.

Any couples out there wanna spoil us rotten and take us to a jungle gym?

Also… boys like sparkling gifts too. (Just saying)"

Do you need a sparkly ring Sam?

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By *ackbydemandMan over a year ago

Leicester

"Some bitches just want money and will use their cunt to get it! Am right?

There's a man who messages me almost monthly, clearly models himself on a veri I once displayed but adds the opportunity of spoiling me as well.

Then again, the common sense kicks in a few seconds later and I remember I'm a) too used to paying and b) too old."

You aren't to old, if you are there's no hope for me.

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"I suppose there is that risk that the Sugar Daddy makes unreasonable demands that go beyond expectations.

That happens in any relationship area really. Predatory partners exploiting the other persons naivety or weaknesses. "

It goes both ways.

The person with the money can be taken advantage of by the person wanting it. Just like any fraudster/victim encounter, people will use what they know to manipulate you into getting what they want.

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

"A sugar daddy is a guy who has money to burn who treats a younger female say like shes a princess....... Whats wrong with that? Not sure who could be classed as "desperate" in that scenario.

The thought is unable to attract without wealth. People being used for their assets, strikes a distasteful chord with many is all.

Loads of people have a successful nurturing sugar relationship. It's when the cash hungry overstep their morals, and become coldhearted that people tend to remember."
ahhh ok so many sugar daddies here then i ask because i obviously haven't came across any

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

Choice maybe?

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

I can understand some women taking the easy route but I have more self respect and self worth for myself and would rather buy my own things x

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

If the point is more about unhealthy relationships. Then yeah fine.. Get that. But allow people to have different relationships without judgement.?

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By *mma29Couple over a year ago

wirral

Send them my way I'm sick of going to work every day!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was offered £6,000 a week the other day

pmsl (msfox)

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By *vanabeusedTV/TS over a year ago

somewhere

Go for it I say

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By *nigmatic x DivinityCouple over a year ago

Up town top ranking

Having been on the bdsm fetish scene for a long time, I've seen said relationships turn out amazing, oh, but that few that unfortunately ended rather sadly.

Please ladies be careful if you're looking to enter into this kind if lifestyle.

Happy fabbing everyone x

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

I find it interesting that a few people on here have described sex in a sugar setup as "transactional" with a negative tone. Isn't all sex transactional? I think it is. It's just in sugar relationships the transaction involves, amongst other things, money.

Sara Pascoe has a podcast called Sex, Power, Money and it's all about sex work. It's really interesting and I'd recommend it. Very eye opening for people who might not realise the reality of such situations.

I don't see any issue with a sugar relationship as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult. I'd definitely do it myself, but I don't think I fit the typical physical type

I've sold items of clothing, and some (clothed but intimate) photos before - I don't really see it as all that much different to that really. Obviously it's not for everyone, but for me, sex and time can be a commodity just like any other service - nothing wrong with being paid to provide those things.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple over a year ago

Staffordshire

"We’d like sugar parents please.

Any couples out there wanna spoil us rotten and take us to a jungle gym?

Also… boys like sparkling gifts too. (Just saying)

Do you need a sparkly ring Sam?

Sprinkle some glitter on it and I’ll pop a finger in for ya

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I find it interesting that a few people on here have described sex in a sugar setup as "transactional" with a negative tone. Isn't all sex transactional? I think it is. It's just in sugar relationships the transaction involves, amongst other things, money.

I don't see any issue with a sugar relationship as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult. I'd definitely do it myself, but I don't think I fit the typical physical type

No I dont think it is always transactional, I have sex for pleasure, not gain.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "

After leaving monogamy and a marriage behind, and coming to my senses in more ways that one.

I can't judge people who are in this sugar-type relationship.

Sex, intimacy, companionship, and connection is something that most people need. How people get that as long as they are not causing bodily and psychological harm is their prerogative.

Because let's face it, most of us can't get that need met in a traditional monogamous marriage for a million reasons that is nobody's fault.

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

No I dont think it is always transactional, I have sex for pleasure, not gain."

But you gain pleasure? Ie you take it, and/or are given it, from/by the other party. Presumably you also give pleasure too, and/or the other person derives pleasure from sex with you. You're exchanging pleasure, and also giving your time and attention to each other - it's still a transaction. It just doesn't involve cash

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

No I dont think it is always transactional, I have sex for pleasure, not gain.

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transaction is something thats bought or sold by definition

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

transaction is something thats bought or sold by definition

So let's say you fix my car for me and don't charge, and in exchange I fix your website, also without charge. Are you really saying you think that's not a transaction? There was no cash... Exchanging things - money, time, items, ideas, emotions, sex, intimacy, friendship.... these are all a back and forth, each giving and receiving (not an exhaustive list)... only one in that list is money. I just don't think the description "transactional" in a negative way is helpful when discussing legal, consensual, sex work.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"A sugar daddy is a guy who has money to burn who treats a younger female say like shes a princess....... Whats wrong with that? Not sure who could be classed as "desperate" in that scenario.

The thought is unable to attract without wealth. People being used for their assets, strikes a distasteful chord with many is all.

Loads of people have a successful nurturing sugar relationship. It's when the cash hungry overstep their morals, and become coldhearted that people tend to remember.ahhh ok so many sugar daddies here then i ask because i obviously haven't came across any

Ahhh...I'm speaking across ranges not just fab based

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question."

•

And which requires a genuine answer (but not necessarily an absolute one).

With regards to lunch or dinner: in the 3½ years I've been on here none have 'gone halves' - because none have offered.

I've almost exclusively paid in full because, again, none have offered. Only two insisted on settling the bill in full. It is quite revealing and therefore make of that what you will! (I've paid because I genuinely wanted to)

With all that said and done it's really not a big deal for me.

As a footnote for the sake of honesty: it would be 'nice' to receive an offer to 'go Dutch' or even the 'momentary raising of the handbag off the floor' as a sincere gesture.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

•

And which requires a genuine answer (but not necessarily an absolute one).

With regards to lunch or dinner: in the 3½ years I've been on here none have 'gone halves' - because none have offered.

With all that said and done it's really not a big deal for me.

As a footnote for the sake of honesty: it would be 'nice' to receive an offer to 'go Dutch' or even the 'momentary raising of the handbag off the floor' as a sincere gesture."

Thats because you haven't had lunch with me!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it’s accepted a guy pays for a first date. Anything else is a bonus. I don’t begrudge, or feel hard done by. I often pay when the lady has gone to the restroom . So there’s no question about payment as it’s done.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

transaction is something thats bought or sold by definition

If I understood correctly, when yuu it mentioned sex and transaction, sadly it becomes sex work.

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

If I understood correctly, when yuu it mentioned sex and transaction, sadly it becomes sex work.

Firstly, no need for the "sadly'

Secondly, of course paying for sex is a transaction. I never said it wasn't. I'm saying other types of sex can be described as transactions too. When I accept an invite in a club, it's with the express intention of exchanging pleasure (or whatever has been agreed). There's a give and take, a mutual benefit...that back and forth is a type of transaction

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd pay for a fit younger girl 100%

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By *elaninMaverickWoman over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"I think it’s accepted a guy pays for a first date. Anything else is a bonus. I don’t begrudge, or feel hard done by. I often pay when the lady has gone to the restroom . So there’s no question about payment as it’s done. "

The man paying gives me the "ick". I don't know if it was how I was raised ( mom and dad both paid for things sometimes 50/50 sometimes 60 /40 sometimes 70/30). Or all the "man buys dinner, then woman must give sex" tropes I've had ingrained in me over the years by the feminist/misogyny/manosphere movement. Or just because I'm neurodivergent and anyone doing anything nice for me is met with suspicion regardless of gender. Lol!

Mostly I just ignore the "ick", reel in my urge to fight over the bill and apply my strongest therapy skill techniques to move like the Duchess of Grace and let the man do one of those "man things". Like most things, I eventually get over myself. lol!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No man should expect anything from simply being chivalrous. If a lady wants to pay or go Dutch I’m perfectly happy to split or be treated. It doesn’t affect my masculinity in anyway .

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

transaction is something thats bought or sold by definition

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I understood correctly, when yuu it mentioned sex and transaction, sadly it becomes sex work.

Firstly, no need for the "sadly'

You’ve really confused me . ‘Other types of sex’?

If your example of someone paying your entry fee to a club in exchange for sex, then that is sex work. If your entry fee was paid on the condition sex might / might not happen, then I’d say that’s chivalry.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

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And which requires a genuine answer (but not necessarily an absolute one).

With regards to lunch or dinner: in the 3½ years I've been on here none have 'gone halves' - because none have offered.

With all that said and done it's really not a big deal for me.

As a footnote for the sake of honesty: it would be 'nice' to receive an offer to 'go Dutch' or even the 'momentary raising of the handbag off the floor' as a sincere gesture.

Thats because you haven't had lunch with me!

•

It would have to be a 'prix fixe' menu!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you draw up a written contract or is it just verbal. ?

I will pay etc ….

I will do etc …

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

You’ve really confused me . ‘Other types of sex’?

Type as in distinction between sex for work and sex that isn't work

Also if paying my entry free for guaranteed sex is sex work then I better tell my partner that our last few club trips have actually been sex work

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

"Its just Capitalism. We encourage Capitalism and yet we sneer at the women who turn it to their advantage. "

These sort of discussing remind me of a story in the 1920s America.

Henry Ford at a society dinner found himself next to a beautiful socialite.

Ford asked her two questions

" If I gave you $5000 would you have sex with me.

SOCIALITE, 'Yes of course', she replied.

FORD 'Would you have sex with me for $5?'

Socialite. ' No what kind of girl do you think I am?'

Ford. ' We have established what kind of girl you are, the rest is simply a matter of negotiation.'

And that I think sums up a sugar daddy and the woman who becomes one perfectly.

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "
why do you say its all they can do?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its just Capitalism. We encourage Capitalism and yet we sneer at the women who turn it to their advantage.

These sort of discussing remind me of a story in the 1920s America.

Henry Ford at a society dinner found himself next to a beautiful socialite.

Ford asked her two questions

" If I gave you $5000 would you have sex with me.

SOCIALITE, 'Yes of course', she replied.

FORD 'Would you have sex with me for $5?'

Socialite. ' No what kind of girl do you think I am?'

Ford. ' We have established what kind of girl you are, the rest is simply a matter of negotiation.'

And that I think sums up a sugar daddy and the woman who becomes one perfectly.

So Henry for was a sugar daddy?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Researching female equivalent

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By *hrismonacoMan over a year ago

london

Fir every sugar daddy there is a gold digger

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Are there really still large numbers of women unwilling to go halves?! Genuine question.

•

And which requires a genuine answer (but not necessarily an absolute one).

With regards to lunch or dinner: in the 3½ years I've been on here none have 'gone halves' - because none have offered.

With all that said and done it's really not a big deal for me.

As a footnote for the sake of honesty: it would be 'nice' to receive an offer to 'go Dutch' or even the 'momentary raising of the handbag off the floor' as a sincere gesture.

Thats because you haven't had lunch with me!

•

It would have to be a 'prix fixe' menu!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You have seen the type, all they can do is offer shopping trips to entice a woman to spend time with them. "
. We all, men and women, spend our money as we wish, to buy whatever it is we want. Attention from and the company of an attractive woman is no different from getting a person round to clear your drains or any other service. If it suits both parties then it works for them. Trying to denigrate “the type” of man who offers a shopping trip is no different from “the type” who can’t clear their own drains.

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

Let’s be honest, anyone who wants a sugar daddy/mummy set up is trading sex for money/gifts. It is a form of prostitution. That doesn’t make it remotely wrong. As long as both parties are genuinely happy with the transaction then no harm done. But let’s not butter it up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If someone wants to buy me nice things in exchange for my time/affection/sex I'd be down with it. As long as they're not a dick head.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Let’s be honest, anyone who wants a sugar daddy/mummy set up is trading sex for money/gifts. It is a form of prostitution. That doesn’t make it remotely wrong. As long as both parties are genuinely happy with the transaction then no harm done. But let’s not butter it up."

It doesn't always include sexual interaction though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think if we look at it like that, there's many relationships could unknowingly fit the description? People just don't realise it until circumstances change and life isn't so great?

As long as it works for people, it's noone else's business.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I feel desperation is a little harsh.

People project differently… if one guys likes to use his money as a way of affection does it mean he’s more desperate than a guy who uses his sexual skills? Or more so than a guy that uses his intellect?

How people generate companionship that works for them shouldn’t be labelled …. As long as it’s respectful and consensual for both parties ?

Just my thoughts …no expectation my opinion is right or that it should be agreed by all…

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Certainly not desperation for us. We are certainly slightly better off than than average couple tbh so don't need gifts as such as we can and do buy ourselves, however Mrs would enjoy having a well kept attractive sugar daddy to spoil her and obviously if attraction/chemistry she'd spoil him look after his needs in other ways!

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By *asycouple1971Couple over a year ago

midlands

Nothing wrong with it as long as both parties are happy. No one elses business.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it’s an amicable arrangement then what’s the problem?

Short pockets and no action?

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By *vanabeusedTV/TS over a year ago

somewhere

I’m desperate to have a sugar daddy

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm not going to judge other people's dynamics if they find an appropriate place for it to play out (as long as appropriate consent is involved)

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By *illDoXXXMan over a year ago

Preston

As with most things best to keep an open mind. As long as the relationship is not coercive it can be mutually beneficial and rewarding.

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By *rispyDuckMan over a year ago

Chinese Takeaway near you

"Desperation from both sides I’d say. Plenty of women seem to be up for it. "

This

Just funny in interviews when they say ‘all they offer in return is companionship’ hahaha

yeah right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The sugar babies are clever, where you guys are giving sex away for free, they getting paid for it and it's on their terms. So who is in control?

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By *immy0169Man over a year ago

london

"The sugar babies are clever, where you guys are giving sex away for free, they getting paid for it and it's on their terms. So who is in control?"

I can be your babe

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Yeah the women are desperate for money and stuff.. So look for daddy's to help them out. Quid pro quo

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By *immy0169Man over a year ago

london

What??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Judging by the amount of simping to everyone with a vagina on sites like this I’d say it’s easy money.

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By *tylebender03Man over a year ago

Manchester

yeah its desperate, but they can also potentially sleep with someone above thier weight that wouldnt usually be a option. thats what the famous bbc presenter is, on 400k and generous with his money

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"yeah its desperate, but they can also potentially sleep with someone above thier weight that wouldnt usually be a option. thats what the famous bbc presenter is, on 400k and generous with his money "

Just like life... People doing stuff with others because they want to.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Above their weight? I'm fine, Mr KC weighs less than me

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

Good Sugar Daddies thread everyone

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By *tylebender03Man over a year ago

Manchester

"yeah its desperate, but they can also potentially sleep with someone above thier weight that wouldnt usually be a option. thats what the famous bbc presenter is, on 400k and generous with his money

Above their weight? I'm fine, Mr KC weighs less than me

Lol I mean old men can sleep with people much younger because they are giving them money. Without the money the younger person may not be interested

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