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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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A blind man with a blind dog reports that they have been turned down for taxi rides over 30 times because he has a dog but appay this is an illegal practice by the taxi companies. As a marketing idea akin to dog friendly hotels why don't some company advertise as dog friendly taxi operators. In the days of the yellow pages taxis were always listed alphabetically and this why so many companies were called A1 or AAA Taxis etc. They could use the same tactic and call themselves Alsation Taxis. This is actually all over the news but Tom asks the question. Has anyone thought that some members of the public are allergic to dogs and would not want to be the next fare after a dog owner and whether companies can afford to take a car off the road to deep clean it because a dog has been in there and it might only be a £5 fare.
This is all over the news. What's going on here guys? |
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It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is. |
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"It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is."
Stick to black cabs, you can get in and without having to leave your wheelchair. |
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"It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is.
Stick to black cabs, you can get in and without having to leave your wheelchair. "
Black cabs cost a small fortune and I am able to transfer to a regular seat. It is much safer to sit in a car seat with a seatbelt if you can, compared to being attached to the taxi whilst in your wheelchair. If it crashes, I'd have a far better chance of surviving in the regular seatbelt. Obviously if someone cannot transfer, then they must use a wheelchair adapted vehicle. |
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"It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is.
Stick to black cabs, you can get in and without having to leave your wheelchair.
Black cabs cost a small fortune and I am able to transfer to a regular seat. It is much safer to sit in a car seat with a seatbelt if you can, compared to being attached to the taxi whilst in your wheelchair. If it crashes, I'd have a far better chance of surviving in the regular seatbelt. Obviously if someone cannot transfer, then they must use a wheelchair adapted vehicle. "
Black cab in Central London 5mph max very little risk so for you cost over convenience. Think back befor Uber what would you have done. |
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"A blind man with a blind dog reports that they have been turned down for taxi rides over 30 times because he has a dog but appay this is an illegal practice by the taxi companies. As a marketing idea akin to dog friendly hotels why don't some company advertise as dog friendly taxi operators. In the days of the yellow pages taxis were always listed alphabetically and this why so many companies were called A1 or AAA Taxis etc. They could use the same tactic and call themselves Alsation Taxis. This is actually all over the news but Tom asks the question. Has anyone thought that some members of the public are allergic to dogs and would not want to be the next fare after a dog owner and whether companies can afford to take a car off the road to deep clean it because a dog has been in there and it might only be a £5 fare.
This is all over the news. What's going on here guys?"
Appalling you can take a dog on a train so for me the allergy thing is an excuses and again Black cab probably a better bet.
But if every one uses Uber there won't be any for the people that need them.. |
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"It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is.
Stick to black cabs, you can get in and without having to leave your wheelchair.
Black cabs cost a small fortune and I am able to transfer to a regular seat. It is much safer to sit in a car seat with a seatbelt if you can, compared to being attached to the taxi whilst in your wheelchair. If it crashes, I'd have a far better chance of surviving in the regular seatbelt. Obviously if someone cannot transfer, then they must use a wheelchair adapted vehicle.
Black cab in Central London 5mph max very little risk so for you cost over convenience. Think back befor Uber what would you have done."
Phoned El Local taxi company on their landline; transferred into a seat and stowed my wheelchair in the boot. Like I do on the off occasion I need a taxi from home, because we don't really have app based taxis out in the deepest suburbs. Interestingly, they tend not to drive away when they see the chair.
I will always choose a regular taxi over a black cab, even without the wheelchair. Black cabs cost a mint. We're not even allowed to claim work expenses for black cabs unless they're the only option, because regular taxis are so much cheaper. |
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"A blind man with a blind dog reports that they have been turned down for taxi rides over 30 times because he has a dog but appay this is an illegal practice by the taxi companies. As a marketing idea akin to dog friendly hotels why don't some company advertise as dog friendly taxi operators. In the days of the yellow pages taxis were always listed alphabetically and this why so many companies were called A1 or AAA Taxis etc. They could use the same tactic and call themselves Alsation Taxis. This is actually all over the news but Tom asks the question. Has anyone thought that some members of the public are allergic to dogs and would not want to be the next fare after a dog owner and whether companies can afford to take a car off the road to deep clean it because a dog has been in there and it might only be a £5 fare.
This is all over the news. What's going on here guys?" exactly my ex wife allergic to dog hairs, having said that taxi fares are ridiculous I was quoted £32 for a taxi ride that I paid £8 on the bus |
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I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand"
Why did she curl up into a ball . .. was the dog vicious ? |
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"I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand
Why did she curl up into a ball . .. was the dog vicious ?" No it was a guide dog but I think she must of been a Muslim as they think dogs are dirty |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence "
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft? |
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft?" 5 |
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft?5" Oh and they are Vicious they drag their handlers around |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft?5"
If an Alsation can clear a 5 meter fence then build them 20 meters |
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft?5
If an Alsation can clear a 5 meter fence then build them 20 meters " lol that's what they did |
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. yes I'm not a fan either and theirs a breed of Alsation that the military use that can climb a 15 foot fence
A 15 foot fence...?
Are you a Brexiteer..
How many meters is 15 ft?5
If an Alsation can clear a 5 meter fence then build them 20 meters lol that's what they did " well not 20 m 20 feet |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
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"I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand
Why did she curl up into a ball . .. was the dog vicious ?"
any taxi refusing to take a guide dog should lose their taxi license |
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"And the dog hair issue?"
Dogs are allowed on trains and buses. Do you cross the road if you see a lady with long hair they play hell with the vacuum cleaner. So should we also stop people with dandruff from Taxis. |
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers.. "
There are no bad dogs just bad owners the Police sped a lot of time and money to train there dogs to be the way they are. And to do what they do.
If you where being chased by a gun man would you Tom want a dog handler and his friend there or 2 police men! |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?" I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Tom is no fan of Alsation dogs..
Vicious buggers..
There are no bad dogs just bad owners the Police sped a lot of time and money to train there dogs to be the way they are. And to do what they do.
If you where being chased by a gun man would you Tom want a dog handler and his friend there or 2 police men!"
Tom would never be chased by a gunman..Tom would chase the gunman... |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too "
Exactly Tom's point.. |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too "
But you could put up a not explain ing that.
I wonder if there are any taxi drivers with nut allergy ?? |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Exactly Tom's point.. "
So what about someone with bad dandruff |
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"Old story report the driver to the Council department responsible for taxis end of story "
Not really. It doesn't solve the problem, does it.
30 seperate occasions with 30 different drivers. And wont stop it happening with other drivers in other areas. |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too "
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc? |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
But you could put up a not explain ing that.
I wonder if there are any taxi drivers with nut allergy ?? " I just wouldn't take those fares. I wouldn't take it and then drive off cause its a hassle.
Hypothetical of course cause I could never be a taxi driver. I hate people. I like dogs more |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc?" On occasion, its rare but thats down to time spent in contact with the hair I reckon. I did have to go home from a pet friendly lodge that I'd booked because of the dogs that had been there before us.
It would be a different story if I had to sit in that car as my place of work for an extended period of time too. |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc?On occasion, its rare but thats down to time spent in contact with the hair I reckon. I did have to go home from a pet friendly lodge that I'd booked because of the dogs that had been there before us.
It would be a different story if I had to sit in that car as my place of work for an extended period of time too. " totally get if you were the cabby. Just wondering how valid Toms "won't someone think of the passengers" line is.
My lil Lab rescue says sorry ! |
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"I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand"
Yes, i live in a area with lots of Asian neighbours.
When i walk my two dogs over the field, its incredible seeing a lot of the Asian families reactions to mine and other dogs.
Kids running scared to their parents...mums grabbing their children as if saving them from a rampaging tiger.
I try, when possible, to encourage them to stroke my dogs, to show them they aren't dangerous. Build their confidence.
Im guessing the kids fear of dogs comes from their parents influence. But not sure where the parents inherited it from.
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc?On occasion, its rare but thats down to time spent in contact with the hair I reckon. I did have to go home from a pet friendly lodge that I'd booked because of the dogs that had been there before us.
It would be a different story if I had to sit in that car as my place of work for an extended period of time too. totally get if you were the cabby. Just wondering how valid Toms "won't someone think of the passengers" line is.
My lil Lab rescue says sorry ! " I'd likely still sit and play with your dog for ages then deal with the consequences afterwards |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc?On occasion, its rare but thats down to time spent in contact with the hair I reckon. I did have to go home from a pet friendly lodge that I'd booked because of the dogs that had been there before us.
It would be a different story if I had to sit in that car as my place of work for an extended period of time too. totally get if you were the cabby. Just wondering how valid Toms "won't someone think of the passengers" line is.
My lil Lab rescue says sorry ! "
Apology accepted. There's should be a clause for cabbies allergic to dogs to refuse a fare.. |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?I wouldn't have a dog in my taxi if I was a driver. I'd have to go home. Most are labs, their hair irritates me to the point that I likely wouldn't be able to see the road.
My eyes water and swell up and I just sneeze over and over.
Labs, staffies and short haired terriers all have same effect on me. As a dog lover it destroys me too
Do you ever get random attacks when in taxis, buses etc?On occasion, its rare but thats down to time spent in contact with the hair I reckon. I did have to go home from a pet friendly lodge that I'd booked because of the dogs that had been there before us.
It would be a different story if I had to sit in that car as my place of work for an extended period of time too. totally get if you were the cabby. Just wondering how valid Toms "won't someone think of the passengers" line is.
My lil Lab rescue says sorry !
Apology accepted. There's should be a clause for cabbies allergic to dogs to refuse a fare.." Whilst I'm not up on the laws, I'd expect cabbies have the right to refuse any fair they like. |
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"Any fab taxi drivers have an opinion ?"
As a cab driver for 4 years..
A taxi driver can apply to be medically exempt legally from carrying guide dogs on medical grounds.
If a non exempt driver arrives at a pickup (we are not always told the passenger has a guide dog) and then finds out a passenger has a guide dog, whilst the driver can reject the job, unless medically exempt, they can be seen as breaking their taxi license agreements as we are legally oblidged to carry passengers with guide dogs.
I pickup guide dogs regularly and never had issues with other passengers complaining about dog hairs, nor would I go straight to the valet to clean the car out incase someone is allergic to dog hairs. How far do we go? Nut allergies,etc. To much loss of business if we cleaned our cars 4 5 times a day just incase someone has an allergy of some kind.
We pick passengers up and take them to their destinations, not quiz them on allergies before they sit in our cars. We would make no money if passengers wanted sanitized 100% clean cars. |
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"I had a blind friend and I've been with him when he's been refused taxis usually by Muslim people. I've seen people refuse to get in a lift with us and one Asian woman at Peterborough train station ran off and curled up in a ball. I've seen these things first hand
Yes, i live in a area with lots of Asian neighbours.
When i walk my two dogs over the field, its incredible seeing a lot of the Asian families reactions to mine and other dogs.
Kids running scared to their parents...mums grabbing their children as if saving them from a rampaging tiger.
I try, when possible, to encourage them to stroke my dogs, to show them they aren't dangerous. Build their confidence.
Im guessing the kids fear of dogs comes from their parents influence. But not sure where the parents inherited it from.
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Dogs are considered to be an unclean animal from an Islamic perspective, the saliva is the issue. There are theories this might originate in a period when rabies was a real issue (as it still is in some parts of the world). Anyway, they're an unclean animal and getting the saliva on you is considered a Very Bad Thing. |
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Taxis can decline to carry dogs that are not working assistance dogs. But they cannot decline to carry working assistance dogs, so what the blind man experienced is against the law. As the taxi driver above explained, a driver with genuine allergy or other health reason for not wanting to sit near a dog can apply for health exemption (with medical evidence). However, if they turn up to a job with a guide dog, they can't just drive off. They have to arrange with a colleague/their firm for another vehicle to come along.
Being allergic to wheelchairs obviously isn't the reason I have also been turned down for travel on multiple occasions...... |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket... |
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"It's about a blind man with his guide dog. By law (Equalities Act), guides dogs must be allowed into taxis, so this is a story about taxi operators breaching the law.
It happens to me when some taxi drivers see me waiting in the wheelchair. Presumably because they CBA getting out to help stow my chair in their boot, they drive past then cancel the booking. This has happened quite a few times when using Uber in both Manchester and London. It's fucking annoying, is what it is."
Wow, that’s so wrong.. hope you report them.. but more importantly I’d all hope people including taxi drivers might just be a bit more empathetic x |
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket..."
Which you would be perfectly entitled to do. There are no laws compelling the carriage of certain types of snake, nor laws protecting snake owners. But there are laws to prevent discrimination, so you wouldn't be allowed to break those |
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket...
Which you would be perfectly entitled to do. There are no laws compelling the carriage of certain types of snake, nor laws protecting snake owners. But there are laws to prevent discrimination, so you wouldn't be allowed to break those " What if the blind man had his dog and a snake with him? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Some taxi drivers own their own vehicles, some rent them from the taxi company owner..
Tom will not allow a snake charmer to bring a basket containing snakes into his cab. It's a no snake zone...
Now let Tom tell the readers a secret.. Snake charmers welcome but don't bring your animals.. end of |
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket...
Which you would be perfectly entitled to do. There are no laws compelling the carriage of certain types of snake, nor laws protecting snake owners. But there are laws to prevent discrimination, so you wouldn't be allowed to break those What if the blind man had his dog and a snake with him?"
Then he'd either have to leave his snake behind or find a taxi willing to carry it. He could travel with his guide dog, regardless. Quite straightforward |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket...
Which you would be perfectly entitled to do. There are no laws compelling the carriage of certain types of snake, nor laws protecting snake owners. But there are laws to prevent discrimination, so you wouldn't be allowed to break those "
You are simply not grasping this... |
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket...
Which you would be perfectly entitled to do. There are no laws compelling the carriage of certain types of snake, nor laws protecting snake owners. But there are laws to prevent discrimination, so you wouldn't be allowed to break those What if the blind man had his dog and a snake with him?
Then he'd either have to leave his snake behind or find a taxi willing to carry it. He could travel with his guide dog, regardless. Quite straightforward " Not that straight forward seemingly or we wouldn't have this thread
All jokes aside, even with my allergy to certain dog hair. I'd still take a blind passenger and their dog if there was no other cab for them. I'd just deal with the consequences afterwards. I wouldn't purposely make someone who already has a challenge in life have to worry about even more. |
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"Some taxi drivers own their own vehicles, some rent them from the taxi company owner..
Tom will not allow a snake charmer to bring a basket containing snakes into his cab. It's a no snake zone...
Now let Tom tell the readers a secret.. Snake charmers welcome but don't bring your animals.. end of"
I do hope To. Dose not have a 1 eyed trouser snake or he won't let himself in to his car. |
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket..." tbf, Tom would probably say no to someone because they had a French accent. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Taxi drivers should never be forced to take passengers..
Human or animal..
If Tom drove taxis he would not allow a snake carrier or snake charmer in his vehicle even if the snakes were in a basket...tbf, Tom would probably say no to someone because they had a French accent. "
Tom new a cabbie who refused a fare from a lady with a French Poodle... |
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