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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today "Did he...I'd like to see that | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today "He certainly did   | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today "I'd never heard of him today (yes, I know!), but saw the Greta thing and then delved into his Twitter feed. Doesn't take long to realise he's a cock. | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
I'd never heard of him today (yes, I know!), but saw the Greta thing and then delved into his Twitter feed. Doesn't take long to realise he's a cock."He definitely comes over as a cock but I think he is much more than that | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
I'd never heard of him today (yes, I know!), but saw the Greta thing and then delved into his Twitter feed. Doesn't take long to realise he's a cock."Yup, Good old twitter, and yes he is a complete cock | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
Did he...I'd like to see that"Check twitter | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it?" From what I’ve seen of him, neither. I agree with some of the things he says, and I disagree with some of the things he says. I think that, with most of what he says, it’s more the way he says it that bothers people more than the underlying message. But, that’s the social media world we live in now, where you get bigger platforms by being provocative, right? | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
Did he...I'd like to see that
Check twitter "I will tomorrow but for now I can't keep my eyes open. | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? From what I’ve seen of him, neither. I agree with some of the things he says, and I disagree with some of the things he says. I think that, with most of what he says, it’s more the way he says it that bothers people more than the underlying message. But, that’s the social media world we live in now, where you get bigger platforms by being provocative, right?" Hits nail on head for me...it's the way he says it but the undetying points have some merit | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? " Legend | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me " he’s a tit | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me" Listen here, missy; how about you stop flappin’ your gums and get back in the kitchen makin me a sammich? | |||
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"I wouldn't say he got owned off her,however he is an irritating man" He most definitely did | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me " ^^^This. He's a grade A wazzock, misogynist and is known to be inspiring some very unpleasant behaviour in some young men. The latter to the point where PREVENT (the Govt deradicalisation strategy) is more concerned about the influence of people like Tate than they are about other forms of extremism. This is because of the numbers of anti-female, right wing influenced violent young men being presented for deradicalisation. From the Head of MI5's most recent national security update: "The Extreme Right Wing landscape has continued to evolve away from structured, real-world groups such as National Action, to a diffuse online threat. From the comfort of their bedrooms, individuals are easily able to access right-wing extremist spaces, network with each other and move towards a radical mindset. There has been further growth in attempts to acquire weapons - firearms in particular, whether illegally obtained, homemade or 3D-printed. Often weapons are sought for their own sake, well in advance of any specific targeting intent developing – making for difficult risk management judgements, and forcing early intervention. We are seeing growing numbers of right-wing extremist influencers, operating globally, fuel grievances and amplify conspiracy theories. This problem feels like it will endure." Note the reference to extreme right wing influencers. Tate is among this group. | |||
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"‘If you put yourself in a position to be r&ped, you must bear some responsibility’" So, you don’t believe in any accountability or responsibility when it comes to your own personal, individual safety? | |||
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"‘If you put yourself in a position to be r&ped, you must bear some responsibility’ So, you don’t believe in any accountability or responsibility when it comes to your own personal, individual safety?" WTF? | |||
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"‘If you put yourself in a position to be r&ped, you must bear some responsibility’ So, you don’t believe in any accountability or responsibility when it comes to your own personal, individual safety?" Read what I said. No women puts herself in a position to be r&ped If you can’t see a problem with what you’ve said I can’t help you | |||
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"Read what I said. No women puts herself in a position to be r&ped" I think what's missing here is the full context of what Tate actually said around your quote. "If you can’t see a problem with what you’ve said I can’t help you " Well, let's not try and run before we can walk... you didn't even answer my question. | |||
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"Read what I said. No women puts herself in a position to be r&ped I think what's missing here is the full context of what Tate actually said around your quote. If you can’t see a problem with what you’ve said I can’t help you Well, let's not try and run before we can walk... you didn't even answer my question." The last comment is unnecessarily patronising, don't you think? Would you like to elaborate on how women can be or are in any way responsible for being sexually assaulted/violated? | |||
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"Read what I said. No women puts herself in a position to be r&ped I think what's missing here is the full context of what Tate actually said around your quote. If you can’t see a problem with what you’ve said I can’t help you Well, let's not try and run before we can walk... you didn't even answer my question." It doesn’t matter if he’s saying anything else around it - he still said the words above. Don’t be so patronising. As women we can do everything possible to keep ourselves safe - get a taxi home, don’t walk alone, be dressed top to toe in woolly clothes - & WE STILL GET ATTACKED. It’s that simple | |||
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"It doesn’t matter if he’s saying anything else around it - he still said the words above." Yes, yes it does. Context matters. With the wrong context, or lacking any context, the meaning of a single sentance, clip, phrase, etc can be fundametally altered and/or misunderstood. This kind of "context doesn't matter" mentality is intellectually dishonest at best, and outright dangerous at worst. "As women we can do everything possible to keep ourselves safe - get a taxi home, don’t walk alone, be dressed top to toe in woolly clothes - & WE STILL GET ATTACKED. It’s that simple" Correct. Now answer the question. | |||
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"It wouldn't matter if a person put themselves in that position, or was asking for it. What matters is that someone else has made a decision to violate someone else. Why is this still a debate? Why do people still see grey area around it? There's no defending it, or finding sneaky ways to word it to get around it. Talking about taking responsibility, perhaps rapists and their defenders should take responsibility for ruining lives." Well said. If someone has decided to attack you, where you are/what you’re wearing, or how safe you tried to be have no bearing on the matter. Victim blaming is still alive and well sadly though | |||
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"I think he's a character, I think a lot of what he says is just to generate controversy and clicks, I don't think he believes it all. Some of his messages about looking after yourself, being proactive in trying to better yourself, achieving success and all that, typical self help positive messages get lost in all the controversial crap. It's basically a modern pyramid scheme, gets all these followers to promote him and spread his messages while he gets rich. " Does it matter if he genuinely believes his own bile or not? He has stated that he is a racist and he is a misogynist, so either that's also a lie, or he genuinely is. Irrespective of what he does or doesn't believe truly, his words, actions and videos are seriously negatively influencing people around the world. Why on earth would anyone want to "play" such an abhorrent character? Why would anyone want to influence young men to hate women and treat them like shit? Believing his own words or not, his BEHAVIOUR is disgraceful and he is dangerous. | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
Did he...I'd like to see that
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I will tomorrow but for now I can't keep my eyes open. "In fact he got roasted so badly it’s raised the global temperature by 0.5 degrees….
Seriously though… the one line twitter takedown was breathtaking and brutal… it was such a thing of beauty that his 2 minute retort video may be the weakest reply to a diss since pusha T took down drake! Stormzy taking down Wiley ect…. | |||
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"It doesn’t matter if he’s saying anything else around it - he still said the words above. Yes, yes it does. Context matters. With the wrong context, or lacking any context, the meaning of a single sentance, clip, phrase, etc can be fundametally altered and/or misunderstood. This kind of "context doesn't matter" mentality is intellectually dishonest at best, and outright dangerous at worst. " I'm going to be accused of white-knighting, but it seems a weird take to argue around context if he said victims of r*pe must "bear some responsibility". Did he say that? As I said above, I'd never heard of him, but that's patent nonsense. Not sure any amount of context would make that acceptable. It's pretty clear cut: the only person responsible for a r*pe is the rapist (male or female). | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me " Men own women? Show me an intelligent woman that would let him away with that - he’s tomorrow’s chip paper but today he’s getting millions of social media attention - the real issue is young impressionable guys thinking theres any merit in what he says… that I find a proper issue   | |||
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"It doesn’t matter if he’s saying anything else around it - he still said the words above. Yes, yes it does. Context matters. With the wrong context, or lacking any context, the meaning of a single sentance, clip, phrase, etc can be fundametally altered and/or misunderstood. This kind of "context doesn't matter" mentality is intellectually dishonest at best, and outright dangerous at worst. I'm going to be accused of white-knighting, but it seems a weird take to argue around context if he said victims of r*pe must "bear some responsibility". Did he say that? As I said above, I'd never heard of him, but that's patent nonsense. Not sure any amount of context would make that acceptable. It's pretty clear cut: the only person responsible for a r*pe is the rapist (male or female)." His full comments can be read in this article from The Metro: https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/19/big-brothers-andrew-tate-says-women-should-bear-responsibility-for-being-raped-in-vile-tweets-7011756/ | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me Men own women? Show me an intelligent woman that would let him away with that - he’s tomorrow’s chip paper but today he’s getting millions of social media attention - the real issue is young impressionable guys thinking theres any merit in what he says… that I find a proper issue "Because young men have never been negatively influenced by undesirable people in the past, right? It's just a modern social media thing? Fuck knows who the Teddy Boys and others were influenced by then - presumably they just woke up one day and fancied wearing velvet jackets and carrying flick knives and stabbing people? Young minds are impressionable. Not just male ones either. They have been impressionable since the dawn of time. The difference nowadays is how easy and quick and immersive external influences can be, with the advent of social media and personal mobile devices. Children can consume this content 24/7 and once they start looking at something like Andrew Tate, the algorithms feed them more of the same and it becomes a rabbit hole. The same problem exists with negative online content around self image, self harm/suicide etc. | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me Men own women? Show me an intelligent woman that would let him away with that - he’s tomorrow’s chip paper but today he’s getting millions of social media attention - the real issue is young impressionable guys thinking theres any merit in what he says… that I find a proper issue
Because young men have never been negatively influenced by undesirable people in the past, right? It's just a modern social media thing?
Fuck knows who the Teddy Boys and others were influenced by then - presumably they just woke up one day and fancied wearing velvet jackets and carrying flick knives and stabbing people?
Young minds are impressionable. Not just male ones either. They have been impressionable since the dawn of time. The difference nowadays is how easy and quick and immersive external influences can be, with the advent of social media and personal mobile devices. Children can consume this content 24/7 and once they start looking at something like Andrew Tate, the algorithms feed them more of the same and it becomes a rabbit hole. The same problem exists with negative online content around self image, self harm/suicide etc."You're arguing with yourself now. | |||
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"From what I've seen of him, he obviously knows what he's doing in the way he presents his arguments. He takes a topic that could be debated and takes one side of it but then expands on it in the most batshit crazy way possible so that his followers focus on the initial point and those who are against him focus on the batshit crazy explanation. It's a clever way to get people talking about him regardless of whether you're on his side or not." This  | |||
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"FUCK ANDREW TATE. Period." Okay... just make sure you get his consent first. From what I hear he's very pro-castration / pro-execution of r*pists... | |||
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"FUCK ANDREW TATE. Period. Okay... just make sure you get his consent first. From what I hear he's very pro-castration / pro-execution of r*pists... "Judging by your replies, you must be really fun at parties  | |||
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"He’s a prick and got owned by Greta thunberg today
I'd never heard of him today (yes, I know!), but saw the Greta thing and then delved into his Twitter feed. Doesn't take long to realise he's a cock.
Yup, Good old twitter, and yes he is a complete cock "but a tiny one according to Greta  | |||
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"Talks a lot of common sense but tweets a lot of inflammatory stuff. Im intelligent enough to take the good and ignore the bad. " Exactly! | |||
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"Never heard of him." Nor me just googled him Blokes a spunktrumpet Apparently depression and mental health are not a thing | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? " Never heard of him until this thread, and there’s probably a reason for that after reading the thread. | |||
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"Talks a lot of common sense but tweets a lot of inflammatory stuff. Im intelligent enough to take the good and ignore the bad. " Unfortunately many men can't differentiate and hang on his every word. Much like trump. | |||
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"Never heard of him." lol yay someone else who doesn't give a rats arse | |||
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"Never heard of him. Nor me just googled him Blokes a spunktrumpet Apparently depression and mental health are not a thing " Spunktrumpet!!!
I'm bewildered by all the blokes here defending AT - if I sent out a few nice messages on fab but sent hundreds and hundreds of ignorant, cruel and harmful messages....would the few nice ones redeem me? - Xeno
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"Talks a lot of common sense but tweets a lot of inflammatory stuff. Im intelligent enough to take the good and ignore the bad. " Is that really an intelligent move ? To ignore the bad ? | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. " Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) " | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) " Agree that fashion is often misogynistic and seeks to objectify women, but why are you referring to this in a conversation about sexual violence and self-defence? I fail to see the relevance. | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? " dont know much about him but he Got owned by Greta on twitter recently and it was hilarious | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) "The message needs to change to what can be done to prevent attacks (the attackers need for violence) instead of, what can women do to prevent themselves from being attacked... We know what to do to try and be safe, it's hammered into us from a young age..its time to start thinking about what do we, as a society, need to do to try and prevent, or at least think about why a person chooses to attack someone | |||
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" Whilst Peterson is the role model for men who want to read one book, Tate is for those who despise literacy altogether." Heh. "Despise literacy" - I will steal that line as it perfectly describes my ex who is a fan of this creature.
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"I don't see anything wrong with Andrew Tate's opinions, yeah they may seem a bit "caveman" or whatever but what most of what he says isn't exactly false or wrong, his deliverance in the opinions he tries to put across is just brutal that's all. Sensitive people will always be quick to turn to abuse & slander when they can't comprehend something" Yeah, nothing wrong or false about what he’s said 
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) Agree that fashion is often misogynistic and seeks to objectify women, but why are you referring to this in a conversation about sexual violence and self-defence? I fail to see the relevance." I see a possible 'first defence' in women being more questioning about the history and the continuity in how they are styled and how sheepishly they allow it whilst spouting spurious arguments about choice. I'd raise a similar argument about 'The Spice Girls' being instrumental in womens lib ..... churns my stomach. ( They were young - I know ) | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? " Never heard of him but had a quick Google... he seems like a knob, wouldthat be accurate? Cal | |||
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"‘If you put yourself in a position to be r&ped, you must bear some responsibility’ So, you don’t believe in any accountability or responsibility when it comes to your own personal, individual safety?" This is what sex offenders tell themselves to relieve themselves of any responsibility. The forums are a great filter. | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) Agree that fashion is often misogynistic and seeks to objectify women, but why are you referring to this in a conversation about sexual violence and self-defence? I fail to see the relevance. I see a possible 'first defence' in women being more questioning about the history and the continuity in how they are styled and how sheepishly they allow it whilst spouting spurious arguments about choice. That argument still lays the blame at the door of women and their 'sheepish' choices, rather than addressing the choices of the person who attacks. She wore sexy clothes so that's justification. I'm not engaging further. Have a nice day. I'd raise a similar argument about 'The Spice Girls' being instrumental in womens lib ..... churns my stomach. ( They were young - I know ) " | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) " Very good points!! | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. " I love your outlook on Knobheads. I'm trying my best not to rise to the bait. | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) Very good points!! "I strongly disagree. Those points still, quite patronisingly, lay the responsibility on the actions of 'pathetic' women.. I'm out. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. " But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… " He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. | |||
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" He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. " If money equals intelligence then that is a construct I would argue… also talking about him is like saying all publicity is good publicity…. People talk about people for various reasons… sometimes it is for lack of intelligence  | |||
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" However, the rise of Tate, Trump, Le-Pen etc ergo “the far right” is, I think, a direct result of too much pushing, instead of educating, it’s demands, instead of dialogue, it’s shout down and demonise, instead of constructive discussions, it’s ostracise and outcast. " Educating? Constructive criticism? The world's education is long overdue, that's why conspiracy theories and escalating climate change still exist...some people simply don't want to get educated or hear constructive criticism, sleep walking their children and grand children into a future of abject misery. | |||
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" He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If money equals intelligence then that is a construct I would argue… also talking about him is like saying all publicity is good publicity…. People talk about people for various reasons… sometimes it is for lack of intelligence "But he wants people talking about him, he wants the controversy and the outrage. He's got it. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. " If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman." . Is that a subtle way of saying she’s a thicko? JAE I agree with you so I must be a thicko too. He knows exactly what he’s doing and how to do it. I don’t like him but he’s not stupid. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman." Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. . Is that a subtle way of saying she’s a thicko? JAE I agree with you so I must be a thicko too. He knows exactly what he’s doing and how to do it. I don’t like him but he’s not stupid. "................................ He's clearly stupid if he thinks bragging about his ownership of carbon emission heavy vehicles is a smart thing to do for the future of his children. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. . Is that a subtle way of saying she’s a thicko? JAE I agree with you so I must be a thicko too. He knows exactly what he’s doing and how to do it. I don’t like him but he’s not stupid.
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
..and fab would be empty. "Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
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Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods."You are clearly missing my point. By yeah ,I am intelligent thanks very much. | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
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Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods.
You are clearly missing my point.
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
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Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods.
You are clearly missing my point.
By yeah ,I am intelligent thanks very much.
Everybody thinks they are intelligent - if they didn’t, people like Tate wouldn’t be making money."I'm bored now. | |||
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me " Absolutely agree and young men idolise him and his fucked up ideas of women | |||
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
..and fab would be empty.
Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods.
You are clearly missing my point.
By yeah ,I am intelligent thanks very much.
Everybody thinks they are intelligent - if they didn’t, people like Tate wouldn’t be making money.
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
..and fab would be empty.
Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods.
You are clearly missing my point.
By yeah ,I am intelligent thanks very much.
Everybody thinks they are intelligent - if they didn’t, people like Tate wouldn’t be making money.
I'm bored now.
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"I don't follow the guy so no idea of the ins and puts of what he posts. But is he a knob? Yep. An intelligent one though. He wants to be controversial and get a reaction and knows how to play it, much like some of the guys on this thread. He wants people to be outraged and argue with him, and people do/will. Personally, I haven't the energy for knobheads. But is he really that intelligent…. He is loud… and brash… and preys on incells to make his money Doesn’t really make him intelligent, I’d argue that he’s opportunistic in trying to keep his name relevant But sometimes dumb is dumb for a reason… and people spend way too much time trying to interpret “stupid” to make it palatable… He's rich and people are talking about him, yeah I'd say he's intelligent. If you listen to him talk he’s obviously not intelligent - he mixes up lots of words because he doesn’t actually understand what they mean. He will appear intelligent and ‘successful’ to people who aren’t too clever though. And that’s why he’s a successful conman. Calling me thick?
There are different types of intellect.
He may not know the "big" words but you can't deny he has people talking about him, he's caused controversy. He's got successful out of it, he's got what he wanted. You have to have some level of intelligence to get that or else all the thick people would be doing it.
..and fab would be empty.
Only you will know if you are thick or not, but mistaking what Tate does for ‘intelligence’, and his rented trappings as ‘success’ are both easy mistakes to make. Which, again, is why he’s a successful conman. The world is full of people who can be duped by the simplest methods.
You are clearly missing my point.
By yeah ,I am intelligent thanks very much.
Everybody thinks they are intelligent - if they didn’t, people like Tate wouldn’t be making money.
I'm bored now.
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"He believes men own women He believes women shouldn’t drive Assaulting women for cheating is ok He says men should date 18/19 year old rather than mid 20’s so they can make an imprint on them. He’s a misogynistic arsehole, and he has a huge following of young impressionable males. He's dangerous, and how anyone can agree with a thing he says is beyond me " All of this | |||
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"A few things pop up so let me as a couple of questions…… 1) is all publicity good publicity? If we are talking about him… but the consensus is that he is a bit of a tit! How is that intelligence? 2) people are also saying he is intelligent because he is rich, but is preying on others using Ponzi and pyramid schemes really intelligence? Opportunistic… absolutely… but they don’t call him the king of the incels for nothing Is it really intelligence or preying on others stupidity….. Like I said before… sometimes just can’t can’t reason with “dumb”…" I do love being called thick it seems. But there's a difference to being intelligent and saying intelligent things. Do I think he's a knob? Yes. But what people can't seem to grasp is he wants people talking about him, he wants to be controversial. Yeah he maybe takes advantage, I don't really know his business that well to comment but the fact is that he is successful at what he does, like the couple above called him, a "successful conman". You may not think it's good publicity, I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit. Many think he's a complete dick (myself included) again, I don't think he cares. People are talking about him and he's making money off it. You have to have some level of intelligence to do that. It's not a hard concept to grasp. | |||
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"A few things pop up so let me as a couple of questions…… 1) is all publicity good publicity? If we are talking about him… but the consensus is that he is a bit of a tit! How is that intelligence? 2) people are also saying he is intelligent because he is rich, but is preying on others using Ponzi and pyramid schemes really intelligence? Opportunistic… absolutely… but they don’t call him the king of the incels for nothing Is it really intelligence or preying on others stupidity….. Like I said before… sometimes just can’t can’t reason with “dumb”… I do love being called thick it seems. But there's a difference to being intelligent and saying intelligent things. Do I think he's a knob? Yes. But what people can't seem to grasp is he wants people talking about him, he wants to be controversial. Yeah he maybe takes advantage, I don't really know his business that well to comment but the fact is that he is successful at what he does, like the couple above called him, a "successful conman". You may not think it's good publicity, I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit. Many think he's a complete dick (myself included) again, I don't think he cares. People are talking about him and he's making money off it. You have to have some level of intelligence to do that. It's not a hard concept to grasp." It really isn’t. | |||
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"A few things pop up so let me as a couple of questions…… 1) is all publicity good publicity? If we are talking about him… but the consensus is that he is a bit of a tit! How is that intelligence? 2) people are also saying he is intelligent because he is rich, but is preying on others using Ponzi and pyramid schemes really intelligence? Opportunistic… absolutely… but they don’t call him the king of the incels for nothing Is it really intelligence or preying on others stupidity….. Like I said before… sometimes just can’t can’t reason with “dumb”… I do love being called thick it seems. But there's a difference to being intelligent and saying intelligent things. Do I think he's a knob? Yes. But what people can't seem to grasp is he wants people talking about him, he wants to be controversial. Yeah he maybe takes advantage, I don't really know his business that well to comment but the fact is that he is successful at what he does, like the couple above called him, a "successful conman". You may not think it's good publicity, I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit. Many think he's a complete dick (myself included) again, I don't think he cares. People are talking about him and he's making money off it. You have to have some level of intelligence to do that. It's not a hard concept to grasp." Maybe intelligence is the wrong word. Perhaps 'shrewd' instead? Smart? Business savvy? But not intelligent. | |||
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"Once again, great filter." Nobody cares about your filtering | |||
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"Once again, great filter. Nobody cares about your filtering " Andrew?? | |||
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"Once again, great filter. Nobody cares about your filtering Andrew?? "you seen his other quote on the other thread Elf | |||
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"Once again, great filter. Nobody cares about your filtering Andrew??
you seen his other quote on the other thread Elf"Shes not going to fuck you | |||
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"Once again, great filter. Nobody cares about your filtering Andrew??
you seen his other quote on the other thread Elf
Shes not going to fuck you"never for one minute thought that didnt santa bring you what you wanted mr troll tate | |||
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"Once again, great filter. Nobody cares about your filtering Andrew??
you seen his other quote on the other thread Elf
Shes not going to fuck you
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"He is vile! " You make it sound like he hates all women which is far from the truth. | |||
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"He is vile! You make it sound like he hates all women which is far from the truth." No, it's just that he is in a deep committed loving relationship with himself and his own relfection in the mirror is the only thing tha gets him hard. His misogyny isn't motivated by a genuine hatred of women, he just views them (and indeed everyone else) as inferior in comparison to his own divine self. | |||
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"He is vile! You make it sound like he hates all women which is far from the truth. No, it's just that he is in a deep committed loving relationship with himself and his own relfection in the mirror is the only thing tha gets him hard. His misogyny isn't motivated by a genuine hatred of women, he just views them (and indeed everyone else) as inferior in comparison to his own divine self." So not misogyny then as youre saying he just views everyone as beneath him? | |||
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"The only person responsible for r*pe is the rapist. Is it partly my fault because I had to walk home alone because no transport available? Is it my fault because I had to walk in an area with bad lighting? Is it my fault because I was alone with a trusted family friend? Is it my fault because I wore a short skirt? I can't believe we still have this crap. Agreed..... however it's a complex argument that has been cherry picked, re pastried and had plastic surgery until it's unrecognisable...... and people love to use it ... it's a trope now. The responsibility for r-ape will always lie with the ra-pist. But the responsibility for women to protect themselves needs greater examination than the constant retort of ..... ' I can walk stark bollock naked if I want!' I know many women who never give a second thought to why women's clothes are fashioned in a certain way and from certain fabrics and seldom seem to question why they totter pathetically in grotesquely impossible heels until their feet blister and bleed. ( Before some misguided soul posts some brainless playground shite beginning with ...... Oh so you think blah blah de blah do you ? I need to point out that I cba with responding to anything i have not said ) Very good points!!
I strongly disagree.
Those points still, quite patronisingly, lay the responsibility on the actions of 'pathetic' women..
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"The 'take responsibility for being a r*pe victim' falls down when the victim is a male or a child. It is an act of hate and violence that uses sex as the weapon of choice to try and injure, assault and take control or power from the victim. Murder/assault/domestic violence victims and other victims of crime aren't told to assess their dress or conduct. " Indeed. I'd love to know what all these victim blamers think about cases like Sarah Everard. Dressed in warm winter gear and a woolly hat. Walking on busy, well lit main streets. Accosted by a member of the Police, who she is supposed to trust. Abducted, r*ped and murdered. But apparently, she should have "taken some responsibility", according to some on here and Mr Tate also. Very curious to know how on earth someone might still blame her as a victim  | |||
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"He is vile! You make it sound like he hates all women which is far from the truth." Oh he is vile for way more than that, although that was never implied... He is also either a child (assumed from watching his video back to Greta) , or a played out character... Whatever he is, he is dangerous... And vile! | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? " Some of the things he says make a good point. Other times a bit too much. | |||
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"He is vile! You make it sound like he hates all women which is far from the truth. Oh he is vile for way more than that, although that was never implied... He is also either a child (assumed from watching his video back to Greta) , or a played out character... Whatever he is, he is dangerous... And vile! " 'dangerous' Oh give me strength | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? Some of the things he says make a good point. Other times a bit too much." Out of interest - what would you say those good points are? | |||
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".. he'll end up saying he's a victim himself, and that he needs rehab or whatever. " This, so much this | |||
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"I had no idea who he was untill I saw a report of the greta comment. I've since seen some of the stuff he believes, he's a vile human who needs to be dropped in the middle of the ocean, far away from anyone else. Anyone that agrees with stuff he says is just as bad, victim shaming never is or will be okay. Thankfully this thread has made a great filter as we'd never want to associate with anyone that thought his comments were even remotely acceptable. " | |||
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"He's a full blown worm. Unfortunately he speaks to a generation of empty men, giving them someone to blame for their failures...and unfortunately that's women. Soon that'll change and he'll end up saying he's a victim himself, and that he needs rehab or whatever. Basically, he's a twat. " Agree | |||
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"He's a gobshite especially coming back to her tweet 10 hours later the way he did .....Find it funny that GB News are reporting that he actually won the argument with her " Speaks volumes for GB News. The right wing non-thinking man's mouthpiece | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? Some of the things he says make a good point. Other times a bit too much. Out of interest - what would you say those good points are? " A quick google: “I don’t need to be motivated because I’m a disciplined person. If I allocate X amount of time to do something, I’m going to do it.” “Every action you take is molding who you are as a person. Every time that you sleep in. Every time you are undisciplined, you are training yourself that it’s okay. A downward spiral towards mediocrity.” “You are exactly where you deserve to be. Change who you are and you will change how you live.” “If I’m not doing something which is either extremely difficult or extremely stressful, I’m in a perpetual state of crippling boredom.” “Men are not designed to be comfortable. They want to achieve. They want to feel pain and suffering. They want to conquer something.” “The person who goes to the gym every day regardless of how they feel will always beat the person who goes to the gym when they feel like going to the gym.” “The immovable object beats the unstoppable force. The immovable object requires less energy. Efficiency always wins.” “Emotional control isn’t a lack of emotion, it’s a necessary function of maturity.” andrew tate quote “Value is linked to difficulty. If you want something that is valuable, you need something which is difficult to obtain.” “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” “For 12 years I trained 5 hours per day, six days per week, and I was motivated to train probably 25% of the time. The rest of the time I went because I am disciplined.” “Sadness is a warning. You feel it for a reason. Your mind is telling you that you need to work harder.” “The average man doesn’t try very hard. So if you try very hard, it’s impossible to be average.” “You’re going to have to work when you don’t feel like working. That’s how it’s going to have to be, or you’re never going to be anything.” “A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow. You’ve gotta do something and you’ve gotta do something fast. You just sitting around talking about it and hoping for things to get better isn’t going to do anything.” “Most people see other people with things they want and don’t do the second half. They don’t try to work out how they got that thing.” “The temporary satisfaction of quitting is outweighed by the eternal suffering of being a nobody.” “Close your eyes. Focus on making yourself feel excited, powerful. Imagine yourself destroying goals with ease.” “The amount of stress you can tolerate while remaining effective is directly correlated to the level of success you will enjoy.” “Don’t listen to the advice of people who are living lives you don’t want to live.” “When’s the last time you prevented the negative instead of dealing with it?” “Discipline is the key to success. Absolutely is. If you cannot force yourself to do something that you do not want to do, how are you ever gonna put yourself through the suffering required for greatness?” “I don’t think there’s a person on this planet who has a 100% approval rate.” “I’m very happy that my life has been difficult because it’s impossible to become a capable man without struggling, facing serious adversities, and overcoming insurmountable odds.” “Every day that you make the wrong choice, more of your potential is wasted.” “If you want people to care about who you are, become familiar with pain.” “Sloppy in one area of your life results in sloppiness in all areas of your life.” “Success loves speed.” “You’ve never pushed yourself because you believe the goal can never be achieved.” “People who train every day do not want to train every day. They are not motivated to train every day. They have something else, they are disciplined.” “Have you taken advantage of the few things you actually control? Or are you still hoping to just get lucky?” “My unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.” “You need to understand that in this world there’s a whole bunch of people doing amazing things that you are not doing. And that needs to piss you off.” “Nobody gives a f**k about you as much you’re gonna have to give a f**k about yourself.” “90% of success is going through stress, pain, torment, and bulls**t.” “Find a person who is as successful as you’d like to be. Ask them what to do. Then do it and work hard.” “Think of all of the amazing things you could have accomplished by now if you weren’t brutally lazy. Imagine all of the time you wasted, every opportunity you let pass by, all the good advice you arrogantly ignored. If you were your creator, would you not be disgusted as well?” “Today you can act as an amateur or a professional. Decide what you will do right now.” “Maybe you’re broke. Maybe you’re out of shape. Maybe you just want a different life altogether. This ‘depression’ you feel is the key to everything you want to change.” “Your life can be like a movie. The mundane, the boring, the average, your life doesn’t need to be this way. But every good movie has some sort of risk, and the heroes of the story are willing to take them. Are you?” “If you truly wanted money, you wouldn’t be able to sleep until you f**king had it.” “If you can find a place where money is moving and stand in the way, then the money is vulnerable.” “If you don’t know anybody who is rich, you’re not useful to someone who is.” “The best and fastest way to obtain wealth does not guarantee it will feel easy or fast.” “Freedom will only come when you no longer trade your time for money.” “Cost is the enemy of the poor man, so the poor try to save money. Time is the enemy of the rich man, so the rich try to save time.” “Money is not the goal, power is.” “Cowardice is bred into poor people. It ensures poverty by dulling their appetite for risk.” “Investing is the easiest example of your network is your net worth.” “Poor people like to believe the rich are mysteriously unhappy to feel better about being poor.” “The amount of work you find to do is directly correlated to how much you care.” “There is a reason that a millionaire wants to be a billionaire.” “Understand that as people become poor, the money hasn’t vanished. Someone else is becoming rich.” “You can become rich, you can become strong, you can take care of your loved ones and enjoy the fact that it will be very difficult.” “You will never get rich without a plan.” “A degree is more expensive every year yet more of them exist every year.” “I find that very few men really want freedom. They’d rather play it safe and take the highest hourly wage they can get their hands on. Hoping that will make them rich when the math clearly doesn’t add up.” “If you’re known as crazy. Your life is going to go one of two ways. Absolute success, or the absolute bottom. But you can rest assured you won’t end up average like the rest.” “All of life’s important lessons come from being broke. The best thing you can hope for as a headstart for a child are: good parents and no money.” You are exactly where you deserve to be. Poor? Then money isn’t your problem, your brain is the problem. You are the reason for your own poverty.” “You are organized, fast, and systematized. You stop doing things that you know are a waste of time. You stop acting based on emotional whims. Imagine that version of yourself. Imagine what that person accomplishes in a year.” “Imagine broke people saying money isn’t happiness and thinking: How would they know?” “One of the only things that you can control in this world is your state of mind.” “You have to play the cards you’re dealt.” “If you can deal with stress all day, you’re going to be successful.” “If you have a mind that you can’t control, you’re never going to be a king.” “You don’t get to go through life only doing the things that you feel like doing.” “Do the impossible and you’ll never doubt yourself again.” “Your mind must be stronger than your feelings.” “If failure makes you stronger, you can never lose.” “Everybody can preach positivity in the sunshine.” “Every action you take is molding who you are as a person.” “Arrogance breeds complacency and complacency breeds failure.” “Fear and respect are different things. The tool you deploy depends on the job.” “Are you good enough on your worst day to defeat your opponents on their best day?” “Become strong, honorable, and dutiful.” “Do not listen to the weak on how to become strong.” “If failure makes you stronger, you can never lose.” “Success loves speed.” “There is no replacement for effort.” “You’re only as good as the influences around you.” “Aspire to be a man who can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.” “Being rich is even better than you imagine it to be.” “Depression is motivation’s toxic waste.” “Do not blindly obey your emotions.” “Do not give up on conquest.” “The future belongs to those who prepare for it today.” “Most of you have been down so long that getting up hasn’t crossed your mind.” “A betrayal from a friend is much worse than an attack from an enemy.” “How you view the world absolutely shapes how you react to the world.” “You have to believe that you can achieve anything.” “It’s impossible to exist somewhere you’re not comfortable.” “When you are a fox, the rabbits are gonna hate you.” “Life will never come to you. You must come to life.” “How I feel has no bearing on how I live my life.” “Trauma and difficulty helps you to man up.” “Every one of my actions is intentional. Divine purpose.” “Raw action solves everything. Caution breeds fear.” “Silence isn’t uncomfortable unless you’re already uncomfortable within yourself.” “The top of the mountain is the bottom of the next.” “You’re not thankful for something if you don’t fight to keep it.” “Be the father/brother to someone who lost their father/brother.” “Say what you would say at their funeral to their face before they die, while they can still hear you.” | |||
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"Was a good M.M.A. fighter but this whole influencer thing makes him look a bit of a cock. Very clever though as it keeps him relevant and creates him huge revenue. " He had 3 MMA fights. Hardly setting the sport on fire. He was a semi decent kickboxer at best. I don't see the fuss with him. He's just like a million other trolls online saying outlandish things to get attention. | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit." | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? Some of the things he says make a good point. Other times a bit too much. Out of interest - what would you say those good points are? A quick google: “I don’t need to be motivated because I’m a disciplined person. If I allocate X amount of time to do something, I’m going to do it.” “Every action you take is molding who you are as a person. Every time that you sleep in. Every time you are undisciplined, you are training yourself that it’s okay. A downward spiral towards mediocrity.” “You are exactly where you deserve to be. Change who you are and you will change how you live.” “If I’m not doing something which is either extremely difficult or extremely stressful, I’m in a perpetual state of crippling boredom.” “Men are not designed to be comfortable. They want to achieve. They want to feel pain and suffering. They want to conquer something.” “The person who goes to the gym every day regardless of how they feel will always beat the person who goes to the gym when they feel like going to the gym.” “The immovable object beats the unstoppable force. The immovable object requires less energy. Efficiency always wins.” “Emotional control isn’t a lack of emotion, it’s a necessary function of maturity.” andrew tate quote “Value is linked to difficulty. If you want something that is valuable, you need something which is difficult to obtain.” “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” “For 12 years I trained 5 hours per day, six days per week, and I was motivated to train probably 25% of the time. The rest of the time I went because I am disciplined.” “Sadness is a warning. You feel it for a reason. Your mind is telling you that you need to work harder.” “The average man doesn’t try very hard. So if you try very hard, it’s impossible to be average.” “You’re going to have to work when you don’t feel like working. That’s how it’s going to have to be, or you’re never going to be anything.” “A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow. You’ve gotta do something and you’ve gotta do something fast. You just sitting around talking about it and hoping for things to get better isn’t going to do anything.” “Most people see other people with things they want and don’t do the second half. They don’t try to work out how they got that thing.” “The temporary satisfaction of quitting is outweighed by the eternal suffering of being a nobody.” “Close your eyes. Focus on making yourself feel excited, powerful. Imagine yourself destroying goals with ease.” “The amount of stress you can tolerate while remaining effective is directly correlated to the level of success you will enjoy.” “Don’t listen to the advice of people who are living lives you don’t want to live.” “When’s the last time you prevented the negative instead of dealing with it?” “Discipline is the key to success. Absolutely is. If you cannot force yourself to do something that you do not want to do, how are you ever gonna put yourself through the suffering required for greatness?” “I don’t think there’s a person on this planet who has a 100% approval rate.” “I’m very happy that my life has been difficult because it’s impossible to become a capable man without struggling, facing serious adversities, and overcoming insurmountable odds.” “Every day that you make the wrong choice, more of your potential is wasted.” “If you want people to care about who you are, become familiar with pain.” “Sloppy in one area of your life results in sloppiness in all areas of your life.” “Success loves speed.” “You’ve never pushed yourself because you believe the goal can never be achieved.” “People who train every day do not want to train every day. They are not motivated to train every day. They have something else, they are disciplined.” “Have you taken advantage of the few things you actually control? Or are you still hoping to just get lucky?” “My unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.” “You need to understand that in this world there’s a whole bunch of people doing amazing things that you are not doing. And that needs to piss you off.” “Nobody gives a f**k about you as much you’re gonna have to give a f**k about yourself.” “90% of success is going through stress, pain, torment, and bulls**t.” “Find a person who is as successful as you’d like to be. Ask them what to do. Then do it and work hard.” “Think of all of the amazing things you could have accomplished by now if you weren’t brutally lazy. Imagine all of the time you wasted, every opportunity you let pass by, all the good advice you arrogantly ignored. If you were your creator, would you not be disgusted as well?” “Today you can act as an amateur or a professional. Decide what you will do right now.” “Maybe you’re broke. Maybe you’re out of shape. Maybe you just want a different life altogether. This ‘depression’ you feel is the key to everything you want to change.” “Your life can be like a movie. The mundane, the boring, the average, your life doesn’t need to be this way. But every good movie has some sort of risk, and the heroes of the story are willing to take them. Are you?” “If you truly wanted money, you wouldn’t be able to sleep until you f**king had it.” “If you can find a place where money is moving and stand in the way, then the money is vulnerable.” “If you don’t know anybody who is rich, you’re not useful to someone who is.” “The best and fastest way to obtain wealth does not guarantee it will feel easy or fast.” “Freedom will only come when you no longer trade your time for money.” “Cost is the enemy of the poor man, so the poor try to save money. Time is the enemy of the rich man, so the rich try to save time.” “Money is not the goal, power is.” “Cowardice is bred into poor people. It ensures poverty by dulling their appetite for risk.” “Investing is the easiest example of your network is your net worth.” “Poor people like to believe the rich are mysteriously unhappy to feel better about being poor.” “The amount of work you find to do is directly correlated to how much you care.” “There is a reason that a millionaire wants to be a billionaire.” “Understand that as people become poor, the money hasn’t vanished. Someone else is becoming rich.” “You can become rich, you can become strong, you can take care of your loved ones and enjoy the fact that it will be very difficult.” “You will never get rich without a plan.” “A degree is more expensive every year yet more of them exist every year.” “I find that very few men really want freedom. They’d rather play it safe and take the highest hourly wage they can get their hands on. Hoping that will make them rich when the math clearly doesn’t add up.” “If you’re known as crazy. Your life is going to go one of two ways. Absolute success, or the absolute bottom. But you can rest assured you won’t end up average like the rest.” “All of life’s important lessons come from being broke. The best thing you can hope for as a headstart for a child are: good parents and no money.” You are exactly where you deserve to be. Poor? Then money isn’t your problem, your brain is the problem. You are the reason for your own poverty.” “You are organized, fast, and systematized. You stop doing things that you know are a waste of time. You stop acting based on emotional whims. Imagine that version of yourself. Imagine what that person accomplishes in a year.” “Imagine broke people saying money isn’t happiness and thinking: How would they know?” “One of the only things that you can control in this world is your state of mind.” “You have to play the cards you’re dealt.” “If you can deal with stress all day, you’re going to be successful.” “If you have a mind that you can’t control, you’re never going to be a king.” “You don’t get to go through life only doing the things that you feel like doing.” “Do the impossible and you’ll never doubt yourself again.” “Your mind must be stronger than your feelings.” “If failure makes you stronger, you can never lose.” “Everybody can preach positivity in the sunshine.” “Every action you take is molding who you are as a person.” “Arrogance breeds complacency and complacency breeds failure.” “Fear and respect are different things. The tool you deploy depends on the job.” “Are you good enough on your worst day to defeat your opponents on their best day?” “Become strong, honorable, and dutiful.” “Do not listen to the weak on how to become strong.” “If failure makes you stronger, you can never lose.” “Success loves speed.” “There is no replacement for effort.” “You’re only as good as the influences around you.” “Aspire to be a man who can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.” “Being rich is even better than you imagine it to be.” “Depression is motivation’s toxic waste.” “Do not blindly obey your emotions.” “Do not give up on conquest.” “The future belongs to those who prepare for it today.” “Most of you have been down so long that getting up hasn’t crossed your mind.” “A betrayal from a friend is much worse than an attack from an enemy.” “How you view the world absolutely shapes how you react to the world.” “You have to believe that you can achieve anything.” “It’s impossible to exist somewhere you’re not comfortable.” “When you are a fox, the rabbits are gonna hate you.” “Life will never come to you. You must come to life.” “How I feel has no bearing on how I live my life.” “Trauma and difficulty helps you to man up.” “Every one of my actions is intentional. Divine purpose.” “Raw action solves everything. Caution breeds fear.” “Silence isn’t uncomfortable unless you’re already uncomfortable within yourself.” “The top of the mountain is the bottom of the next.” “You’re not thankful for something if you don’t fight to keep it.” “Be the father/brother to someone who lost their father/brother.” “Say what you would say at their funeral to their face before they die, while they can still hear you.” " Yes all good points I totally resonate with. Why all the aggro posts from him though? For visits to his channel(s)? It's certainly worked, trouble is the majority of people hone in on the trash talk. I'm pretty certain he's self-parodying at times | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit." Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit." Exactly. It's Nietzsche for the meme generation. | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” " He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches. | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches." He still fights, just not competitively | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches. He still fights, just not competitively" So not real fights. | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit. Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? " Its easy to pick and choose quotes to defend. Try being unbiased for a moment. | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches. He still fights, just not competitively So not real fights." Oh so we're coming after him now because he has the temerity to not do competitive fights anymore are we? | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit. Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? " No, no - you’re right. Some dictators had some good thoughts too, right? So we’ll just ignore all the bad bits. Good one
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit. Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? Its easy to pick and choose quotes to defend. Try being unbiased for a moment." Im the only being unbiased here. The lady asked for examples of positive things he said. I went to Google and copy and pasted a load of them. What exactly is the problem here? | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit. Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? No, no - you’re right. Some dictators had some good thoughts too, right? So we’ll just ignore all the bad bits. Good one
Just bereft of logic "What logic have i put forth exactly? Ive only provided examples of his positive comments, which the woman above asked for Try not to be blinded by your hatred for a moment | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches. He still fights, just not competitively So not real fights. Oh so we're coming after him now because he has the temerity to not do competitive fights anymore are we?" No I’m “coming after him” because he’s a hypocrite. Most grifters are. | |||
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"Are there people (fools) on here actually defending this guy???? " sadly yes | |||
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"Love or loathe him? There maybe some wiggle room please expand on it? Some of the things he says make a good point. Other times a bit too much. Out of interest - what would you say those good points are? " Women's expectations for men being unrealistic and trying to be a good guy is not attractive to women is often true. However It is also true that he takes that to extremes | |||
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" “I could never stop fighting even if I lost 100 fights because I’m not built to live a normal existence.” He has retired from combat sports. So he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches. He still fights, just not competitively So not real fights. Oh so we're coming after him now because he has the temerity to not do competitive fights anymore are we? No I’m “coming after him” because he’s a hypocrite. Most grifters are." Im a little unclear why that makes him a hypocrite? | |||
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"Oh pipe down Bananaman, these are all things other decent humans have said. He’s just repackaging it for his own ends, to balance out the shit. Sorry, what the issue? The lady asked for examples so ive just given some. Do good thoughts only count if nobody else said them before?? No, no - you’re right. Some dictators had some good thoughts too, right? So we’ll just ignore all the bad bits. Good one
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What logic have i put forth exactly? Ive only provided examples of his positive comments, which the woman above asked for
Try not to be blinded by your hatred for a moment"There is no logic to anything you’re saying, that’s exactly it. Good, we’re in agreement. I tell you what, I’ll stop being ‘blindsided by my hatred’ when you stop defending a hate inciting misogynist. | |||
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" Im a little unclear why that makes him a hypocrite?" He has a record of 79-9. That’s a long way from 100 losses and he’s stopped fighting. | |||
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