Did Man go to the moon in 69? I think we didn't I think it was a lie to do with the cold war
They are wanting to go back to the moon they say but as yet we having problems
So why 60 years on we are having problems
Yes cos we never got to the moon in 69 |
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We definitely landed on the moon back then...the whole apollo project was far too much of an intellectual and monetary project to be a mere fake ...to what purpose? To deter the Russians getting there first?...I'd call that a total waste of money...if the Saturn project was merely part of the arms race I'm sure earth icbms wouldn't have been that over engineered to carry a heavy payload out as far as the moon...the reason for not exploring the moon further was money ..and nothing exciting there to exploit...hence why the building of the iss became the more interesting step in space exploration |
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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago
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Images from the recent LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) have been published clearly showing the landing sites and tracks made by the lunar rover, the various experimental packages left by the astronauts, these were also photographed but Hubble several years ago.
The main issue has been the cost to put a mission like this together.
In 1969-73 each launch cost approximate $185 million dollars and the overall budget for NASA was $6.4 billion dollars.
Now the cost is spread between multiple space agencies and it is for the first time a global venture.
The estimated cost of the the current Artimis/Orion program is $94 billion dollars.
That's a lot of spare change |
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If we didn't make it to the moon, during the Cold War, then the Russians would have made it very obvious and very clear that it never happened.
They didn't. They accepted it after verifying. There's no conspiracy here. |
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You'll also find that regulation, safety management and governance was absolutely nothing in comparison to what it is today so costs have escalated exponentially as has testing requirements - long gone are the days of just chucking some brave soul in a rocket into outer space with fingers crossed. |
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"If we didn't make it to the moon, during the Cold War, then the Russians would have made it very obvious and very clear that it never happened.
They didn't. They accepted it after verifying. There's no conspiracy here."
Russia were actually amongst the first to offer congratulations in a cold war kind of way. If they (the only other power at the time to have the capability) feel it happened, then it happened. The "truth" by Karen on facebook is a serious problem. Simply stating a "fact" doesn't make it true or real and "karen" needs to get her entitled head out her entitled ass.
Honestly, the amount of time and effort put in to going to the moon and the number of people needed to stay silent over the last half century or so, it would have been easier and cheaper to actually go to the moon than to pretend. |
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"Did Man go to the moon in 69?"
Yes but the low/zero gravity meant that they were just spinning around while they were kissing each other on the dong. That's okay though because 69 is a palindrome.
Zero grav shagging, though. Totally bucket list |
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We didn't go to the Moon because it's actually a secret base for the aliens that built the pyramids. Fun fact; the Earth is flat, which is bizarre as it's also hollow. Bonus fact; reptilian overlords run the world governments. |
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"Did Man go to the moon in 69?
Yes but the low/zero gravity meant that they were just spinning around while they were kissing each other on the dong. That's okay though because 69 is a palindrome.
Zero grav shagging, though. Totally bucket list "
Re entry is always recommended |
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"You can literally see the stuff left behind if you use a telescope.
I don’t understand why being daft is cool nowadays. "
That stuff is painted on the lens of every telescope before shipping: fact |
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By *arehamMan
over a year ago
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No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy. |
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By *eliusMan
over a year ago
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"If we didn't make it to the moon, during the Cold War, then the Russians would have made it very obvious and very clear that it never happened.
They didn't. They accepted it after verifying. There's no conspiracy here."
Succinct and to the point … now ask the op if the world is flat. |
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"No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy. "
Three astronauts in a capsule at the top of the rocket, attached to a service module with all the oxygen, power etc they need.
Lunar Module tucked in the top of the third stage of the rocket behind the service module. Retrieved on the way to the Moon. Astronauts can pass between them via a hatch.
Lunar rover was folded up in the side of the Lunar Module. Astronaut life support backpacks were packed into the Lunar Module before launch.
It all really simple and straightforward. |
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"No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy. "
Have you ever actually seen a Saturn rocket?
You could fit a 3 bedroom semi inside |
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"I’ve no idea. Haven’t seen any verifiable evidence personally and dint know anyone who has- but surely governments wouldn’t lie to us ? "
I have. I’ve seen actual Moon rocks, which can be verified as having come from the Moon. I’ve also seen space suits in museums that still have actual Moon dust on them (again, verifiable) and seen some of the spacecraft that brought the astronauts home. |
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Right, equipment such as rovers were sent up in advance, the same way as we send probed to Mars currently and will send equipment up their for when we go.
The Saturn V rocket was over engineered, with the intent to use the same launch vehicle to get the USA all the way to Mars, hence its completely massive size and the accompanying huge costing!
The issues we are having currently are as much to do with 21st century economics and logistics as opposed to those in the mid 20th century and hight of space race. Space exploration has in the eyes of the general public become trivial and dull. Sourcing public money for this now is very difficult. |
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"Right, equipment such as rovers were sent up in advance, the same way as we send probed to Mars currently and will send equipment up their for when we go.
The Saturn V rocket was over engineered, with the intent to use the same launch vehicle to get the USA all the way to Mars, hence its completely massive size and the accompanying huge costing!
The issues we are having currently are as much to do with 21st century economics and logistics as opposed to those in the mid 20th century and hight of space race. Space exploration has in the eyes of the general public become trivial and dull. Sourcing public money for this now is very difficult."
Sent up in advance lol.In Apollo 12 and a half perhaps? |
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"I’ve no idea. Haven’t seen any verifiable evidence personally and dint know anyone who has- but surely governments wouldn’t lie to us ?
I have. I’ve seen actual Moon rocks, which can be verified as having come from the Moon. I’ve also seen space suits in museums that still have actual Moon dust on them (again, verifiable) and seen some of the spacecraft that brought the astronauts home. "
"Verified" by who? |
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"No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy.
Have you ever actually seen a Saturn rocket?
You could fit a 3 bedroom semi inside"
Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep." |
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"No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy.
Three astronauts in a capsule at the top of the rocket, attached to a service module with all the oxygen, power etc they need.
Lunar Module tucked in the top of the third stage of the rocket behind the service module. Retrieved on the way to the Moon. Astronauts can pass between them via a hatch.
Lunar rover was folded up in the side of the Lunar Module. Astronaut life support backpacks were packed into the Lunar Module before launch.
It all really simple and straightforward. "
Yeah,not exactly rocket science is it......oh,wait a minute |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You can literally see the stuff left behind if you use a telescope.
I don’t understand why being daft is cool nowadays.
That stuff is painted on the lens of every telescope before shipping: fact "
That's the old way, now its part of image on the inside of the dome we live under.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Everything was cheaper back then. Suits made of tin foil, rockets made from old washing up bottles. Tissue paper for flames. "
Moon supplied by Clangers tv company |
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"Right, equipment such as rovers were sent up in advance, the same way as we send probed to Mars currently and will send equipment up their for when we go.
The Saturn V rocket was over engineered, with the intent to use the same launch vehicle to get the USA all the way to Mars, hence its completely massive size and the accompanying huge costing!
The issues we are having currently are as much to do with 21st century economics and logistics as opposed to those in the mid 20th century and hight of space race. Space exploration has in the eyes of the general public become trivial and dull. Sourcing public money for this now is very difficult."
The Rovers were taken there in the Lunar Module. They folded up and fit inside the descent stage, and all three of them (only the last three missions had them) are still on the Moon. |
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"Did Man go to the moon in 69? I think we didn't I think it was a lie to do with the cold war
They are wanting to go back to the moon they say but as yet we having problems
So why 60 years on we are having problems
Yes cos we never got to the moon in 69"
Yes we did. Assuming your theory that it was a Cold War stunt, why then was the Soviet space agency able to track the US' launch and travel to the moon?
LvM |
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JodrellBank here in good old Blighty was able to measure the distance of transmissions from Eagle to within millimetres, it even shows the climb as Neil Armstrong flew it manually over craters.
The Soviets had spies and espionage all over NASA.
The USA put men on the moon in 1969-72. If you don’t ‘believe’ it just accept cleverer people than you worked all this shit out and did it.
Same with flat earthers and the jet fuel hoaxers- dumb as a post |
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Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep." "
Pardon??? The crew compartment was 92inches (seven and half foot ) by 42 inches (three and half foot)???
Where on earth did you get those measurements from?? |
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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago
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Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep."
Pardon??? The crew compartment was 92inches (seven and half foot ) by 42 inches (three and half foot)???
Where on earth did you get those measurements from?? " there is plenty of information on the web about the Lunar module |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reading this always reminds me of the historical story about the Americans spending ten's of thousands trying to develop a pen that could work in zero gravity.
The Russians just used a pencil "
It’s a good urban legend |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep."
Pardon??? The crew compartment was 92inches (seven and half foot ) by 42 inches (three and half foot)???
Where on earth did you get those measurements from?? there is plenty of information on the web about the Lunar module "
Yes, i know, that was my point.
nowhere on the Internet gives those dimensions.
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Twelve men did walk on the moon between 1969 and 1972 but the future of space exploration should be using robots and not human beings.
Cosmic radiation and lack of gravity is damaging to human physiology.
Human explorers need to return to Earth, uninjured, whereas robots do not.
Conspiracy theorists tend to be people with warped cognitive processes, low educational attainment and concomitantly low ability to process information.
Many also have organic mental health problems.
I have spoken to many conspiracy theorists; the abiding impression one gets about them, is that there is something wrong with them.
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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago
Secret hideaway in the pennines |
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Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep."
Pardon??? The crew compartment was 92inches (seven and half foot ) by 42 inches (three and half foot)???
Where on earth did you get those measurements from?? there is plenty of information on the web about the Lunar module
Yes, i know, that was my point.
nowhere on the Internet gives those dimensions.
" actually there is |
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"I’ve no idea. Haven’t seen any verifiable evidence personally and dint know anyone who has- but surely governments wouldn’t lie to us ?
I have. I’ve seen actual Moon rocks, which can be verified as having come from the Moon. I’ve also seen space suits in museums that still have actual Moon dust on them (again, verifiable) and seen some of the spacecraft that brought the astronauts home. "
I've been to Cape Canaveral too |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
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"No they didn’t go to the moon there is a film showing them driving around on a 4 x 4 when you look at the Saturn rocket they could only get three people in it so how the hell did they get the bit that landed on the moon, and were was the rover that they drove on the moon, and when they walked on the moon were was there massive back packs they had on their backs were would they put them on,
It was a total conspiracy.
Have you ever actually seen a Saturn rocket?
You could fit a 3 bedroom semi inside
Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep." "
That'll cost £1m in central London, a house that small. |
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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago
Secret hideaway in the pennines |
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Very small house as the lander was tiny,I quote "Crew Compartment is 92 inches in diameter and 42 inches deep."
Pardon??? The crew compartment was 92inches (seven and half foot ) by 42 inches (three and half foot)???
Where on earth did you get those measurements from?? there is plenty of information on the web about the Lunar module
Yes, i know, that was my point.
nowhere on the Internet gives those dimensions.
" obviously don't like being proved wrong |
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"I believe we went to the moon all those years ago. However it makes me think why haven't we been walking on Mars by now. "
It's really far to get there and back and people can only space walk for relatively brief periods before they get too much irradiation (6-7hrs max). Imagine trekking all that way for a few hours?!
I honestly think the idea of leaving this planet and colonising anywhere (moon, Mars etc) is just fanciful. There are no natural resources, we'd have to constantly resupply and we have no idea if or how we could grow stuff up there. It's a waste of really good money we could spend on trying not to trash this planet, before we go and trash another one.
PS: Man has definitely been to the moon |
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"I believe we went to the moon all those years ago. However it makes me think why haven't we been walking on Mars by now.
It's really far to get there and back and people can only space walk for relatively brief periods before they get too much irradiation (6-7hrs max). Imagine trekking all that way for a few hours?!
I honestly think the idea of leaving this planet and colonising anywhere (moon, Mars etc) is just fanciful. There are no natural resources, we'd have to constantly resupply and we have no idea if or how we could grow stuff up there. It's a waste of really good money we could spend on trying not to trash this planet, before we go and trash another one.
PS: Man has definitely been to the moon "
Matt Damon grew potatoes on Mars, so it's only a matter of time
p.s. yes, man has definitely been to the moon! |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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Man or rather men did walk on the moon, and returned alive to Earth, but I would not fancy my chances as an astronaut going to Mars and hoping to return alive.
We are too distant from other habitable worlds that are in the goldilocks zone around nearby stars.
We are destroying this planet, the only known habitable one, the Earth.
The underlying reason for space exploration was to gain military advantage, principally over the Soviet Union in the 60s and 70s. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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I was thirteen years old when Neil and Buzz walked on the moon, at the Sea of Tranquillity; one if the greatest collective feats by humankind, EVER.
That day, that I remember extremely well, will be talked about in hundreds of thousands of years.
Incidentally, Sir Patrick Moore, the famous TV astronomer personally met the first man to fly: the Weight brothers; the first man in space Yuri Gagarin, and the first man to walk on the Moon, Neil Armstrong; and all in the space of one human lifetime.
We are a truly remarkable and inventive species (of ape)! |
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I'd imagine that if they hadn't gone to the moon, it wouldn't have realistically been possible to fake for all these years.
And it wouldn't have allowed the USA to have claimed superiority.
We shouldn't be returning |
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"You can see, with your own eyes and a £300 telescope, where we have been on the moon.
Literally see it.
With. Your. Eyes.
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What if my eyes are in on the conspiracy? Paid off by the FBI or the CIA or NASA or someone else entirely. Trust no-one, not even your own eyes. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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FFS!
There are numerous written and filmed accounts of individual people's involvement in the moon landings.
A number of countries were able to track the progress of space flights using their own technology.
The Apollo technology used is still available for study. Why hasn't a modern day engineer proved it wouldn't have worked as claimed?
Some of the equipment used is still there and still visible.
The US couldn't keep Clinton/Lewinsky a secret and there were only two of them in the room. Why on earth would the Russian arch enemy go along with this hoax?
Finally, why? Why would billions of dollars have been sent on such an elaborate and easily disproved hoax?
Get. A. Grip.
Gbat
A post script Finally: What evidence would it take for the disbelievers to accept this really happened? What could sway your judgement? |
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"Images from the recent LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) have been published clearly showing the landing sites and tracks made by the lunar rover, the various experimental packages left by the astronauts, these were also photographed but Hubble several years ago.
The main issue has been the cost to put a mission like this together.
In 1969-73 each launch cost approximate $185 million dollars and the overall budget for NASA was $6.4 billion dollars.
Now the cost is spread between multiple space agencies and it is for the first time a global venture.
The estimated cost of the the current Artimis/Orion program is $94 billion dollars.
That's a lot of spare change"
Energy companies can afford it now tho |
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