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"I think there are things that should be banned before either of those things. But that's what is great about the world. We can all have opinions "yeah that is true i meen we have all moved on as a society and through time we include and just except life styles just why the need to shout about it in public | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this." i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. " How and why are you equating Orange Marches to Pride? | |||
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" I suppose you can debate anything, but that's a pretty strange comparison? Orange march and Pride? Why those two "Sadly have to say that they are putting over a point of view that not many people are ok to see in public. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. " That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. | |||
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" I suppose you can debate anything, but that's a pretty strange comparison? Orange march and Pride? Why those two "Because he's a sectarian bigot I'd say. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create that is a valid point and sadly some individuals can be a wee bit over excited and forget that they are in a city centre Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up)" | |||
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"I think there are things that should be banned before either of those things. But that's what is great about the world. We can all have opinions yeah that is true i meen we have all moved on as a society and through time we include and just except life styles just why the need to shout about it in public
"The except typo is apt. The suggestion that the LGBTQIA+ are accepted simply isn't true, particularly true of the T, so yes they are excluded and an exception rather than acceptance | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. " We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street.Well you have won a watch tell me of the straight marches you have seen they just get on with life not seaking attention or too be special That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. " | |||
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" I suppose you can debate anything, but that's a pretty strange comparison? Orange march and Pride? Why those two Sadly have to say that they are putting over a point of view that not many people are ok to see in public.
"What point of view isn't okay to see in public? I'm confused, you opened by saying the world was more liberal and inclusive but now it's because these marches upset people? | |||
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" I suppose you can debate anything, but that's a pretty strange comparison? Orange march and Pride? Why those two Sadly have to say that they are putting over a point of view that not many people are ok to see in public.
What point of view isn't okay to see in public?
I'm confused, you opened by saying the world was more liberal and inclusive but now it's because these marches upset people?"They upset bigots. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That cant happen in this society. i suggest that if you heard of the Black Shirts in the uk you would regulate marches and have a behaviour protocal That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up)" Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That cant happen in this society. i suggest that if you heard of the Black Shirts in the uk you would regulate marches and have a behaviour protocal That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." Even if they incite and promote further hatred as part of their narrative? | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." Absolutely. Rights and freedoms are universal and NOT selective. | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this.i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. " Conform and comply? People often want to feel like part of a group, as well as of a larger society. This is why you'll see folks with football shirts, band shirts and people who are part of various other groups. To take that away from folk (as long as it's not offensive - I'm not gonna defend anyone in a pride march that acts in an inappropriate way), would not go down too well. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That cant happen in this society. i suggest that if you heard of the Black Shirts in the uk you would regulate marches and have a behaviour protocal That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That cant happen in this society. i suggest that if you heard of the Black Shirts in the uk you would regulate marches and have a behaviour protocal That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That cant happen in this society. i suggest that if you heard of the Black Shirts in the uk you would regulate marches and have a behaviour protocal That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech." | |||
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"What i think should be banned is banning things " Hang on, you're banned from saying that  | |||
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"Anti LGBT incidents are at record high levels. The idea that the work of Pride is largely done couldn't be further from the truth." I was going to say something really similar actually. LGBT people have more rights than ever it doesn't mean that there is a quality though. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride?" Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech. Absolutely. Rights and freedoms are universal and NOT selective." Exactly. I've gone up against nazi scum with counter demos against the EDL and BNP and their like, but they have a right to March. Equally people counterdemoing Pride, it's their right. Ahd I'm not condoning them but they have a right to be there. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it" So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. " I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete"  | |||
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"Does it affect you op, or your life? Doesn’t affect me so I’m really not that bothered what people want to do or march for. " This | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this.i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. " What is a normal society anyway? A lot of the times, what is generally considered normal seems like something I'm not part of... I'm not like the other kids | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this.i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. " What is a normal society? | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete" "Yeah I did in fairness I've broken my glasses in my defence so I can't actually see. | |||
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"Someone mentioned a straight March never heard of it tbh " Why would we need one? I've never had lude comments, Disgusted looks And abuse when holding my husband's hand or giving him a kiss in public. In the past when I have done the same with girlfriends the same cannot be said. | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete"
Yeah I did in fairness I've broken my glasses in my defence so I can't actually see. "You're not my neighbour are you? That's usually her excuse for some of the very strangely worded messages I get from her  | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete"
Yeah I did in fairness I've broken my glasses in my defence so I can't actually see.
You're not my neighbour are you? That's usually her excuse for some of the very strangely worded messages I get from her "Firstly it's not an excuse I have actually broken my glasses I'm secondly no I live in my way near Norwich. | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete"
Yeah I did in fairness I've broken my glasses in my defence so I can't actually see.
You're not my neighbour are you? That's usually her excuse for some of the very strangely worded messages I get from her
Firstly it's not an excuse I have actually broken my glasses I'm secondly no I live in my way near Norwich. "Yep, they're definitely broken. I believe you. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening" OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. I'm guessing you misread the title. It's "debate this" not "delete"
Yeah I did in fairness I've broken my glasses in my defence so I can't actually see.
You're not my neighbour are you? That's usually her excuse for some of the very strangely worded messages I get from her
Firstly it's not an excuse I have actually broken my glasses I'm secondly no I live in my way near Norwich.
Yep, they're definitely broken. I believe you. "Honestly I need to get this sorted out I can't see a flipping thing. I have got a spare pair but they don't fit properly anymore. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead " So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. " i said di=ue to the content this site my ban this thread i did not ask for it to be banned | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. i said di=ue to the content this site my ban this thread i did not ask for it to be banned " Yes I know. I apologised above. | |||
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"I don't know much about the Orange Walk but if they are not doing harm or spreading hate why do you think they should be banned? I don't see the issue here and think you've got to be a pretty miserable person to have a problem with something like Pride. " google the orange lodge mate and tell me what you think | |||
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"Why do you want to create a shit storm, OP? " just debating a convo lol | |||
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"If they mandated that the orange order had to march naked ...would it be more popular...or less?...they can keep their hats on "Fuck me know have you seen the knuckle draggers that do to them lol, | |||
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"That is the great thing about living in a free society. I find it odd that you are demanding that this thread should not be deleted otherwise you will cause a shit storm however You want pride and Orange marches to be banned. Seems some people only want freedoms and free speech that suits them. i said di=ue to the content this site my ban this thread i did not ask for it to be banned Yes I know. I apologised above. " thanks | |||
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"Why do you want to create a shit storm, OP? just debating a convo lol " You've chosen a fairly controversial point to debate. | |||
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"Why do you want to create a shit storm, OP? just debating a convo lol You've chosen a fairly controversial point to debate." yes i have and the debate is going good no bad mouthing | |||
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"Why do you want to create a shit storm, OP? just debating a convo lol You've chosen a fairly controversial point to debate.yes i have and the debate is going good no bad mouthing " There is no debate here! Using your freedom of speech to argue that universal rights and freedoms should not be universal is at best hypocrisy! At worst it is a trope of fascism! A right which isn’t a right is not a right but is a privilege. | |||
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"Why do you want to create a shit storm, OP? just debating a convo lol You've chosen a fairly controversial point to debate.yes i have and the debate is going good no bad mouthing There is no debate here! Using your freedom of speech to argue that universal rights and freedoms should not be universal is at best hypocrisy! At worst it is a trope of fascism! A right which isn’t a right is not a right but is a privilege." so in your own statement you woud ban the black shirts and nazi from marching seems a little hypocite | |||
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"If you want to cause an absolute sure fire spat, go to any sci-fi convention and proclaim Star Wars to be better than Star Trek to the Trekkie’s present; guaranteed animated hostility will follow "The force is strong in this one spock, may the live long and prosper be with you | |||
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"I don't know much about the Orange Walk but if they are not doing harm or spreading hate why do you think they should be banned? I don't see the issue here and think you've got to be a pretty miserable person to have a problem with something like Pride. google the orange lodge mate and tell me what you think" You again seem opposed to the orange Lodge but argued the marches aren't needed as society is more accepting? | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. " I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. | |||
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"two thing i think that need to be banned is Orange Walks and Pride Marches. In there day yes they did keep the fight going but now with the world being more liberal to others and inclusive and yes i know there is still work to do. can we just stop shouting it out in the street. That’s the good thing about freedoms and rights! They are universal and not selective. Ban a Protestant march you have to ban a catholic march. Ban a pride march you have to ban a straight march. You cannot claim the world is more liberal and inclusive when the government is trying to undermine the universal rights and freedoms that enable liberty and inclusivity! That isn’t an opinion - it is basic fucking practical common sense! If you cannot see the inequality all around you, this does not mean it doesn’t exist. It means you can’t see it because you do not recognise it. Here endeth the lesson. We have a free society All marches should be allowed imo. Including hate groups. Either you are pro free speech or you are against free speech. Even if they incite and promote further hatred as part of their narrative?" 100%. America have better protections than us in that regard. The exception is incitement of violence which is an attack rather than free speech | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. " A lot more than just nudity goes on - i saw amsterdam pride down by the canal and as joyous as it was ot wasnt a family event imo and in public seeing people walking about in fetish gear and with bits out seemed inappropriate given it was the streets of the capital and not in clubs or just the sex district. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. " It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. " Nudity at pride has happened because I've seen it however I have also seen security guards and police deal with it immediately. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? " Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. " Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community." That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. " I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks." There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. " Sorry you don't understand me. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. Sorry you don't understand me. " I understand you perfectly as you have made yourself very clear that pride is not aimed at families it's aimed at lgbtqi people. I think it's you that isn't understanding. | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. Sorry you don't understand me. I understand you perfectly as you have made yourself very clear that pride is not aimed at families it's aimed at lgbtqi people. I think it's you that isn't understanding. " Have a nice day, Lorna | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. Sorry you don't understand me. I understand you perfectly as you have made yourself very clear that pride is not aimed at families it's aimed at lgbtqi people. I think it's you that isn't understanding. Have a nice day, Lorna" I always do and I am able to admit when I am wrong.  | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. Sorry you don't understand me. I understand you perfectly as you have made yourself very clear that pride is not aimed at families it's aimed at lgbtqi people. I think it's you that isn't understanding. Have a nice day, Lorna I always do and I am able to admit when I am wrong. "Well done | |||
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"I don't think they should be banned But they should be policed like other events I work with ex-coppers and they have told me stories of things they have seen but were told to ignore it or drop the case because of the negative publicity it would create Like naked men and women walking around shaking their bits directly infront of children People walking around touching others and grinding up against people who do not appreciate it Walking around naked has nothing to do with being part of the LBGTQ community (I may have mixed the letters up) Is this sonething thst you say goes on at Pride? Yes... I'm not saying it's everyone Like may things it's the small few that do it So which Pride had naked people exposing themselves to children? I've never heard any suggestion of this happening OMG... I said I was told by ex-ploice when they were told to attend There is a huge police presence at these events These events are huge and attended by many people Just because you haven't seen it don't mean it don't happen It has been seen And please read what I put carefully and not select the bits you want to argue I didn't say they were exposing themselves to children I said they were infront of children People attend and bring their kids Kids can be aged up to 13 and classed as teenagers after that Should I have used yound adults instead So as always this is just anecdotal evidence rather than something people can actually fact check. I am telling you now that if a grown adult was exposing their genitalia in front of children the police would not do nothing. I'm fairly confident you are right. Abd that people "touching and grinding" against random people wouldn't have been ignored either. And I'm convinced nudity doesn't happen at Pride either. It's banned at Pride in the UK so I tend to agree with you. And if there's other inappropriate activity - kink for example - I tend to think it's the parents' responsibility to decide whether to take their kids. Pride isn't meant to be for families, is it? Pride is absolutely aimed at families and has been for years. Maybe but it is not about families. Or FOR families. It is for the LGBTQ community. That's an exceptionally naive comment seeing as there are thousands of LGBTQI families in this country. It's absolutely about families maybe you should Google it. I'm aware of the arguments on both sides, Lorna. I don't need to Google thanks. There is no argument pride is advertised as a family friendly event and has been for years so I don't understand the point in your comments or the fact you said it's not 4 families it's for LGBTQI people which as I said is exceptionally naive. I think you do need to look into it more because your statement suggests you're not quite sure what you're talking about. Sorry you don't understand me. I understand you perfectly as you have made yourself very clear that pride is not aimed at families it's aimed at lgbtqi people. I think it's you that isn't understanding. Have a nice day, Lorna I always do and I am able to admit when I am wrong.
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this.i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. " Wait until you find out about Black people getting a whole month to themselves!! | |||
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"Didn't mean to start an argument... its not even my thread lol Yes nudity happens whether it's fully naked or revealing clothing I think fetish wear is fine and should be allowed but as long as its not showing actual genitals Topless is fine as you see it on a beach But taking your newly out 10yo child to an event and having a 40yo man walking around waving his pecker shouldn't be allowed In reply to another post... yes there are security and police Security can't do anything as they have no real power in a public place, they can detain until the police arrive... the police will remove people from a praide but will not prosecute unless its a serious offence Same as the people blocking the motorways.. arrested and released without charge (unles they caused damage or attacked someone) Due to the paperwork involved and the amount of offices that need to be in attendance and called in on days off... they don't want to deal with the paperwork just for them to be released I've talked to police who have been in attendance on pride days and other lgbqt groups/days" There are topless people and people in very revealing clothing at the Nottinghill carnival would you like that banned as well? If somebody is exposing themselves to children they will be prosecuted and if you have police officers telling you they turn a blind eye then you need to report them. | |||
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"Didn't mean to start an argument... its not even my thread lol Yes nudity happens whether it's fully naked or revealing clothing I think fetish wear is fine and should be allowed but as long as its not showing actual genitals Topless is fine as you see it on a beach But taking your newly out 10yo child to an event and having a 40yo man walking around waving his pecker shouldn't be allowed In reply to another post... yes there are security and police Security can't do anything as they have no real power in a public place, they can detain until the police arrive... the police will remove people from a praide but will not prosecute unless its a serious offence Same as the people blocking the motorways.. arrested and released without charge (unles they caused damage or attacked someone) Due to the paperwork involved and the amount of offices that need to be in attendance and called in on days off... they don't want to deal with the paperwork just for them to be released I've talked to police who have been in attendance on pride days and other lgbqt groups/days There are topless people and people in very revealing clothing at the Nottinghill carnival would you like that banned as well? If somebody is exposing themselves to children they will be prosecuted and if you have police officers telling you they turn a blind eye then you need to report them." This is not my post, I didn't say anything about banning people I said topless isn't an issue... Please read and not only pick parts you want to read Report them... did you read my first post on this, they were not not to act, that's why they do paperwork and people get released without charge Why am I bothering You won't read this properly This is a site for having fun And this isn't fun | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this." Couldn't have said it any better than this. | |||
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"I agree that orange walks should be banned. They've been going on for too many years now and feel they're not gaining anything from them anymore. Let Pride carry on "I don't it's people taking pride in themselves is it not ? Tolerance is the key to everyones disdain. | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this. Couldn't have said it any better than this." Thankyou. | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches " Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.) | |||
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"I'm not going to comment on the first, I don't have a horse in the race, but Pride marches are still important as long as there are people in the world who find reasons to hate because of it, and people who can't be themselves because of this.i get that but to be included in society you need to be a part of it. Making a day for yourself excludes you in a way that make you want to be special and unique. Yet to be a paert of a normal society you need to be just who you are and get on with life. They're celebrating freedom. Remember Alan Turing and others were imprisoned, others murdered?! I think the pertinent part of your question is the "I". Why do these 2 random causes bother you? " | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)" I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event " I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view. | |||
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"Lol you all dumb .. seriously.. freedom of expression is paramount. Forcing your opinions on others is a dictatorship is it not? Wake up to your ignorance. I choose let everyone speak have a parade be happy with your choices.. you lot want to shut those voices down for your own selfish behavior. " That is a breathtakingly broad and insulting generalisation from someone who can't string a sentence together, smh gtfooh | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view." nah | |||
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"Lol you all dumb .. seriously.. freedom of expression is paramount. Forcing your opinions on others is a dictatorship is it not? Wake up to your ignorance. I choose let everyone speak have a parade be happy with your choices.. you lot want to shut those voices down for your own selfish behavior. " Do you have any idea what any of these parades or organisations are? | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view.nah " Why is it okay to ban one "side" but not the other? Or, to turn the question around, if we agree one "side" should be allowed to march, why should the other "side" also not be able to? | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view.nah Why is it okay to ban one "side" but not the other? Or, to turn the question around, if we agree one "side" should be allowed to march, why should the other "side" also not be able to? " the Catholics march to try and liberate there country and make Ireland United, the other are a horrible shower who make up songs about a murdered woman on her honeymoon. | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view.nah Why is it okay to ban one "side" but not the other? Or, to turn the question around, if we agree one "side" should be allowed to march, why should the other "side" also not be able to? the Catholics march to try and liberate there country and make Ireland United, the other are a horrible shower who make up songs about a murdered woman on her honeymoon. " | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view.nah Why is it okay to ban one "side" but not the other? Or, to turn the question around, if we agree one "side" should be allowed to march, why should the other "side" also not be able to? the Catholics march to try and liberate there country and make Ireland United, the other are a horrible shower who make up songs about a murdered woman on her honeymoon. " Ban all religious marches. LGBTQi people actually exist, unlike the hundreds of ethereal "gods" that there's apparently one of. We're largely civilised compared to 2000 years ago, when they had to create understanding of personal and social responsibility. We ain't savages anymore, save the 0.1%. | |||
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"I agree ban the orange marches Just checking you're okay with also banning any marches from the Catholic community too? (I'm not affiliated with either "side" so not a particular issue for me personally, especially not here in England. Just asking the question.)I'm from the Republic and the time the Catholics marched resulted in bloody sunday and the British government issuing an apology for the event I don't think we dispute the history. What I'm asking now, in 2022, is, if you believe orange order marches should be banned, do you agree the same should apply to republican/catholic affiliated parades, which do occur in NI? I repeat, I personally have no specific point of view.nah Why is it okay to ban one "side" but not the other? Or, to turn the question around, if we agree one "side" should be allowed to march, why should the other "side" also not be able to? the Catholics march to try and liberate there country and make Ireland United, the other are a horrible shower who make up songs about a murdered woman on her honeymoon. Ban all religious marches. LGBTQi people actually exist, unlike the hundreds of ethereal "gods" that there's apparently one of. We're largely civilised compared to 2000 years ago, when they had to create understanding of personal and social responsibility. We ain't savages anymore, save the 0.1%." catholics/nationalist/republicans want a united ireland 32 counties that's what its about not religion | |||
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"Ban everything than sit in your ignorance and ponder why no one can have happiness in what " They" choose. Orange March and pride March have the same representation on a freedom of voice standpoint do they not. ? The division is has to stop you all cry foal over others yet. Claim you the righteous ones to your own agenda . Not others on their choices. I'll keep my American values you all insane." We haven't advocated banning anything. We've asked someone else who advocates banning one type of march whether he would support banning the other side of the coin from marching. He replied. That's that. Again we ask, are you familiar with the orange order, what it means, the reasons they might march, the feelings it generates etc? The history behind the whole affair? | |||
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"Ban everything than sit in your ignorance and ponder why no one can have happiness in what " They" choose. Orange March and pride March have the same representation on a freedom of voice standpoint do they not. ? The division is has to stop you all cry foal over others yet. Claim you the righteous ones to your own agenda . Not others on their choices. I'll keep my American values you all insane. We haven't advocated banning anything. We've asked someone else who advocates banning one type of march whether he would support banning the other side of the coin from marching. He replied. That's that. Again we ask, are you familiar with the orange order, what it means, the reasons they might march, the feelings it generates etc? The history behind the whole affair? " voices count no matter the disdain others perceive . Otherwise you instituting a dictatorship . Mob rules . | |||
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"Ban everything than sit in your ignorance and ponder why no one can have happiness in what " They" choose. Orange March and pride March have the same representation on a freedom of voice standpoint do they not. ? The division is has to stop you all cry foal over others yet. Claim you the righteous ones to your own agenda . Not others on their choices. I'll keep my American values you all insane. We haven't advocated banning anything. We've asked someone else who advocates banning one type of march whether he would support banning the other side of the coin from marching. He replied. That's that. Again we ask, are you familiar with the orange order, what it means, the reasons they might march, the feelings it generates etc? The history behind the whole affair? voices count no matter the disdain others perceive . Otherwise you instituting a dictatorship . Mob rules . " We'll settle on "no" then. What the unionist and republicans do is of very limited consequence to us personally but it's of huge consequence to millions of people and has a long and bloody history. Perhaps before speaking in riddles, it might help to appraise yourself of the nature of the question and why some people might feel banning certain things might make sense to them? I'm referring here specifically to the question about religious marches mentioned. Yet again, we have not advocated banning anything at all. We have asked questions. | |||
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"Ban everything than sit in your ignorance and ponder why no one can have happiness in what " They" choose. Orange March and pride March have the same representation on a freedom of voice standpoint do they not. ? The division is has to stop you all cry foal over others yet. Claim you the righteous ones to your own agenda . Not others on their choices. I'll keep my American values you all insane. We haven't advocated banning anything. We've asked someone else who advocates banning one type of march whether he would support banning the other side of the coin from marching. He replied. That's that. Again we ask, are you familiar with the orange order, what it means, the reasons they might march, the feelings it generates etc? The history behind the whole affair? voices count no matter the disdain others perceive . Otherwise you instituting a dictatorship . Mob rules . " yup I a silly dumb American. That value everyone's decision. You be lost your be mind over a religious march. It's the same individual choices people make. Isn't it more prudent for people to appreciate their personal choices . Not the majority? | |||
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"Ban everything than sit in your ignorance and ponder why no one can have happiness in what " They" choose. Orange March and pride March have the same representation on a freedom of voice standpoint do they not. ? The division is has to stop you all cry foal over others yet. Claim you the righteous ones to your own agenda . Not others on their choices. I'll keep my American values you all insane. We haven't advocated banning anything. We've asked someone else who advocates banning one type of march whether he would support banning the other side of the coin from marching. He replied. That's that. Again we ask, are you familiar with the orange order, what it means, the reasons they might march, the feelings it generates etc? The history behind the whole affair? voices count no matter the disdain others perceive . Otherwise you instituting a dictatorship . Mob rules . yup I a silly dumb American. That value everyone's decision. You be lost your be mind over a religious march. It's the same individual choices people make. Isn't it more prudent for people to appreciate their personal choices . Not the majority? " look up the history of Northern Ireland and the troubles and then comment instead of sticking your nose into something you clearly know nothing about. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? " We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. " I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic. | |||
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"Honestly from my heart be I watch the BB political forum an I watch the general forums. You all play by a certain voice should be not have a voice. According to the majority. Your majority is a fallacy. " I'm sorry but you need to read back your comments because they are making no sense whatsoever. | |||
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"Honestly from my heart be I watch the BB political forum an I watch the general forums. You all play by a certain voice should be not have a voice. According to the majority. Your majority is a fallacy. I'm sorry but you need to read back your comments because they are making no sense whatsoever. " then don't read. Because apparently you can't understand. Basically like some group having a march. It's ok for others but not if it it does not fit in your protective bubble. Then it's a wrong standpoint. | |||
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"Honestly from my heart be I watch the BB political forum an I watch the general forums. You all play by a certain voice should be not have a voice. According to the majority. Your majority is a fallacy. I'm sorry but you need to read back your comments because they are making no sense whatsoever. then don't read. Because apparently you can't understand. Basically like some group having a march. It's ok for others but not if it it does not fit in your protective bubble. Then it's a wrong standpoint. " Please don't insult me. I can't understand because you aren't making any sense. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic." you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. " can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? | |||
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"I'm getting a headache reading this shite all riddles and double Dutch. Learn the history of northern ireland plain and simple before you comment " | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? " is America a democracy or a constitutional republic. Mob does not rule here accordingly now does it ? I'm can name plenty of policies everyone there despises on the federal level. What is wrong with people choosing their expressions no matter your self centered feelings twords that? | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? is America a democracy or a constitutional republic. Mob does not rule here accordingly now does it ? I'm can name plenty of policies everyone there despises on the federal level. What is wrong with people choosing their expressions no matter your self centered feelings twords that? " Do you know anything about the Orange order. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? " What majority/minority are you going on about? None of the debate immediately above is about the Pride parades, which most people would categorise as a completely different thing to the orange order or republican marches in Northern Ireland (which is what we ARE discussing). There's very specific history behind the Northern Ireland marches and so understanding this history, and the current situation in NI and ROI would really help. | |||
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How can anyone have a problem with Pride marches, I thought they are about fun and inclusiveness but I may have missed something. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? What majority/minority are you going on about? None of the debate immediately above is about the Pride parades, which most people would categorise as a completely different thing to the orange order or republican marches in Northern Ireland (which is what we ARE discussing). There's very specific history behind the Northern Ireland marches and so understanding this history, and the current situation in NI and ROI would really help. " and there has been history about LGBTQ struggles too on their standpoints. What is the difference in freedom of speech? Happy to see the LGBTQ to have a voice they earned. Now the same voices for others on their personal voices that their freedoms that they choose is bothersome and uncivilized. It's still their voices just like others. | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? What majority/minority are you going on about? None of the debate immediately above is about the Pride parades, which most people would categorise as a completely different thing to the orange order or republican marches in Northern Ireland (which is what we ARE discussing). There's very specific history behind the Northern Ireland marches and so understanding this history, and the current situation in NI and ROI would really help. and there has been history about LGBTQ struggles too on their standpoints. What is the difference in freedom of speech? Happy to see the LGBTQ to have a voice they earned. Now the same voices for others on their personal voices that their freedoms that they choose is bothersome and uncivilized. It's still their voices just like others. " Going to ask one last time to see if I can get an answer. What do you know about the Orange order? | |||
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"If you choose your perception on others that is righteous in your eyes .. you are a dictator. No matter your sexual preference race color or religion. You trying to intact your personal views on others for your benefit. Am I correct? We're trying to get you to read up on some history. History that goes back to way before most of the USA was settled by Europeans. It's important history. Literal wars have been fought over the issues, with ongoing sporadic conflict even now. Without understanding the background, you cannot possibly comment. I can comment we do not follow the mob concept of " democracy" I can change a perception of a federal law according to the constitution. Being a minority goes alot of ways political sexual racist. Among a few. It's a freaking parade a celebration of others that they choose. Not your agenda. If it offends you don't go. It's simplistic.you just don't get it do you. You have no idea what we are talking about because Americans don't learn about world history the rest of the world doesn't exist to Americans. In all fairness you are though that America won the world war all by themselves. can I change a majority policy by pushing to the supreme court being a minority if I choose yes or no ? What majority/minority are you going on about? None of the debate immediately above is about the Pride parades, which most people would categorise as a completely different thing to the orange order or republican marches in Northern Ireland (which is what we ARE discussing). There's very specific history behind the Northern Ireland marches and so understanding this history, and the current situation in NI and ROI would really help. and there has been history about LGBTQ struggles too on their standpoints. What is the difference in freedom of speech? Happy to see the LGBTQ to have a voice they earned. Now the same voices for others on their personal voices that their freedoms that they choose is bothersome and uncivilized. It's still their voices just like others. " Dear goodness. The specific discussion you waded into was NOT about Pride. We've said this several times! We are specifically discussing the marches that occur on the island of Ireland, afflicted with unionist or republican groups. Most people who know what they're talking about would put Pride in a totally different category and wouldn't lump Pride parades with orange lodge or republican marches. Please go and read the history before spouting more stuff! | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. " Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. " They are asking what you know of OPs OG post specifically the comparison that is supposed to cause mass-debate.. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. " again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. " You are incorrect. Both on what the orange order is and what we are asking or discussing. But that much has been obvious for a while. No one has said to sit down and shut up in any form. We have asked that you inform yourself about a very significant set of issues in the UK and ROI, starting from a very long time ago. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. " OK so you have answered my question you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The Orange order has nothing to do with conservatism. I really don't understand why you keep commenting on this as you don't know anything about it. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. " hint the same thing you fought against in WW2. Silence of others. Voices matter no matter how horrendous you perceive . Otherwise you fall into a one mentality.not individualism. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. hint the same thing you fought against in WW2. Silence of others. Voices matter no matter how horrendous you perceive . Otherwise you fall into a one mentality.not individualism." This is nothing to do with World War II. | |||
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"So basically it's a mob rule. Sit down shut we decided game over attitude there. Just asking. Do you know anything about the Orange order? I keep asking because you seem to have a lot to say but don't seem to know what it is. again I said are you mob rules yes or no? If the orange is ultra conservative what is the issue? You walking a thin line on your assessment. It's their voice not yours. Just like the LGBTQ community and any others that choose. You basically saying .. sit down shut up correct? It sounds vaguely familiar. hint the same thing you fought against in WW2. Silence of others. Voices matter no matter how horrendous you perceive . Otherwise you fall into a one mentality.not individualism. This is nothing to do with World War II. " Yet you want to silence other voices. I do not. Does that sound familiar at all to you? | |||
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"We need a popcorn emoji " Totally agree. | |||
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