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Is the UK gone down the pan?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Many years ago

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Just bookmarking this one to watch it

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple over a year ago

Lincoln

I'm what sense and compared to when?

Compared to the 1800's in terms of poverty, no, it's far better.

LvM

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It went down the pan many years ago followed by loads of turds and piss.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman over a year ago

Manchester(ish).

"Your thoughts?"

Are we playing

"Where's Tom?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's all over the loo's.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"It went down the pan many years ago followed by loads of turds and piss."

I think the UK would struggle to fit in a toilet pan. It's kinda weirdly shaped. I'm fairly sure Cornwall would stuff up the U-bend

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. We are still better off than many countries. We need to count our blessings instead of looking at the negatives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In some aspects yes, in others no.

What do you think OP?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In some aspects yes, in others no.

What do you think OP? "

Actually you gave you view up there a bit later, apols didn’t read ahead! Ignore my second sentence!

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By *coobyBoobyDooWoman over a year ago

Markfield

"It's all over the loo's."

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By *uke OzadeMan over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan "

UK am become death, destroyer of worlds.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The UK is on its arse, being run by globalists ready for the new world order and the great reset,if folk haven't learned anything from the last 2 years of lie's and total corruption then they are nothing but a lost cause ????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The people make the U.K. what it is today. However I don’t think it is “going down the pan” those who fail think it is, blaming the U.K. for there failures, usually blaming government.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The people make the U.K. what it is today. However I don’t think it is “going down the pan” those who fail think it is, blaming the U.K. for there failures, usually blaming government. "

I agree , the blame train is rather crammed full

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You could always live in another country... We take for granted how lucky we are compared to a lot of other countries.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You could always live in another country... We take for granted how lucky we are compared to a lot of other countries. "

If they emigrated then what would they have to moan about ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's all over the loo's."

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

One for the Politics forum, rather than the more genteel Lounge, I think.

Just my opinion, but I think it has gone down the pan, sent there by the greed and venality of the powerful (I don’t just mean recent governments).

We’re watching its death throes as a political entity, I think. I was never a flag-waver, but I was always very content with its existence. These days I’m “Annibyniaeth Cymru”.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It's all relative, I've been to many countries and they are generally worse than being here.

Obviously there are things that people don't like, but the grass is rarely any greener on the other side of the fence.

Cal

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"The UK is on its arse, being run by globalists ready for the new world order and the great reset,if folk haven't learned anything from the last 2 years of lie's and total corruption then they are nothing but a lost cause ????"

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan

UK am become death, destroyer of words."

FTFY

Winston

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By *ticky69Man over a year ago

Preston

At times it feels more like a dirty protest.

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By *idnight RamblerMan over a year ago

Pershore

Well I've worked as an ex-pat all around the world, and all I'll say is try living in some other countries before trashing the UK.

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By *arkandlovelyWoman over a year ago

South Derbyshire

At the risk of sounding spoiled, I really had no idea until very recently how much poverty there is in this country. I saw a woman on television last night talking about a charity she'd set up to deliver beds to children who don't have one. She operates in Leeds and this week alone has delivered 46 beds so far and still has more referrals to process. How are there children in this country, one of the richest in the world, who don't have a comfortable and safe place to sleep? It's easy to not realise this is reality for so many when you're lucky to have lived a relatively comfortable (but not rich) life. I wonder what the government are doing about this inequality when it seems like charities are picking up so much of the "slack". Pissing away millions on unfit contracts with their mates. Avoiding tax. Failing to close loopholes. They have no interest in narrowing the gap, do they? It's the children my heart aches for. They have no choice in how they live, they can't unskill or make cut backs or move careers, they're absolutely stuck in that situation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your situation in life, mostly financial, will depend on how people answer this question. If something isn't directly effecting you, it doesn't exist in most people's eyes. Personally, I think this country should be and could be better but that's another thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lol. Coming back to this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So the world is mess first of all. UK just the leaders and mess makers.

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By *airytaleOfNewPorkMan over a year ago

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I'm of the opinion things are different today than a few years ago.

But, I have a good life. I am in a position to make choices. I can eat what I like, I can go pretty much where I want, I can watch whatever I wish to watch on the TV... many people in many countries don't have the choices I have.

I'm grateful for what I've got, and see the positive.... were a first world country with one of the strongest economies in the world... and too many people take stuff for granted and would rather complain

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By *airytaleOfNewPorkMan over a year ago

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"At the risk of sounding spoiled, I really had no idea until very recently how much poverty there is in this country. I saw a woman on television last night talking about a charity she'd set up to deliver beds to children who don't have one. She operates in Leeds and this week alone has delivered 46 beds so far and still has more referrals to process. How are there children in this country, one of the richest in the world, who don't have a comfortable and safe place to sleep? It's easy to not realise this is reality for so many when you're lucky to have lived a relatively comfortable (but not rich) life. I wonder what the government are doing about this inequality when it seems like charities are picking up so much of the "slack". Pissing away millions on unfit contracts with their mates. Avoiding tax. Failing to close loopholes. They have no interest in narrowing the gap, do they? It's the children my heart aches for. They have no choice in how they live, they can't unskill or make cut backs or move careers, they're absolutely stuck in that situation."

Please could you DM me the name of this charity... I'm in the process of trying to pull together a lot of different charities but only have mental health charities so far, this one feels like a great one to support

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You could always live in another country... We take for granted how lucky we are compared to a lot of other countries. "

A lot of problems with the UK seem to be happening to The West in general.

It does also depend on your personal situation, in terms of society and feeling like you belong, relative wealth can be more important than GDP.

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By *aiseiMan over a year ago

Birmingham

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston "

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The people have enabled governments over recent decades, to get the UK down the pan.

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By *ighty_tightyMan over a year ago

Norfolk/Suffolk

Is or has?

Gone or going?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. The biggest problem in life is people's expectations of how life should be as opposed to how it actually is? The digital age is amazing but it sure created some delusional people.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston

Anyone who genuinely believes there's an agreement between globalists, governments, et al throughout the world to come together and universaly agree on a "new world order" has clearly never worked in project management.

Winston

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By *appycouple300Couple over a year ago

North Dorset

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan "

This……

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Without a doubt. I think it's for many varying reasons and I also think there has to be a complete collapse to enable us to rebuild. Sadly I don't think this will happen. Kept under the heel of those in power, we just have to keep going until anarchy begins

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All these people complaining about unemployment and poverty need to remember that people complained about the poor house and kids being sent up chimneys but there was full employment of a kind....bring back the 1800s, Britain ruled the waves, Boney was the enemy and the Empire knew who was in charge

Exert from the memoir of Nigel Farrage

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Your thoughts?"

You threw the hand grenade in the room OP.

Why don't you go first and give us your opinion?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Okay in terms of living standards of how said children live- that's individual adults making that choice for their child. Of course bills etc come into it- but not to have the basic necessities. That's an ill informed adult not parenting correctly. You can pick up beds cheap enough /second hand. We are a throw away nation. Secondly- yes the government have been wasteful with money. But the people voted them in. Children and life as a whole has improved. Everyone has rights in this country- which some countries do not have. We expect a lot and more in this country thinking we are entitled to all this just because we are a first world country- maybe think: voting and also what do you have already/ what you perceive as needing is that not a want. Over and out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One of my many thoughts on this is:

It’s pretty grim. But I mean I don’t long for the ’good old days’ that a) I’m too young to remember and b) were a time that my older family members recall a seemingly worse time in terms of being Black here (and for other POC I know this applies too).

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By *htcMan over a year ago

Yes I noticed the UK changing around a young age noticed colour changes, lack of English speaking people, crime increase, police have lack of powers, increased tax, left and right anger, protests, eco people, soft touch law, not free to speak out, homes for people who have never paid a penny in the country but our own get nothing, benefits, List goes on.

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It’s not as nice as it used to be. I’ve definitely seen signs of global warming affecting the UK and people seem crazier somehow. It’s noticeably busier too with more people. Maybe it’s just me.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

"Yes I noticed the UK changing around a young age noticed colour changes, lack of English speaking people, crime increase, police have lack of powers, increased tax, left and right anger, protests, eco people, soft touch law, not free to speak out, homes for people who have never paid a penny in the country but our own get nothing, benefits, List goes on.

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws."

This sounds like every rant I see on bookface and other social media but normally from someone in the 50's/60's, blaming all the country's woes on pesky immigrants and foreigners.

The UK has always been a diverse place to live populated by people of many ethnicities.

Is crime on the increase? Probably. I suspect though that the perpetrators aren't just recent arrivals to the UK. Do the police lack powers? It seems that way, but then that's the fault of the government, not the police and who's been in power the last 12 years?

Increased tax? Not really. Certainly not in the right places (corporate) and focussing on tax avoidance which is a far greater issue ad loss of money to the country than benefit fraud.

Not free to speak out? Why not? What's stopping anyone? We live in a country where you actually do have freedom of speech (but not freedom of consequence of course, quite rightly) and the ability to use it online or elsewhere.

And the good old 'our own get nothing' argument. There are people born in this country who've done feck all for their whole lives who get benefits and housing , yet people who want to come here and build a life through work (when they're eventually allowed) are castigated and resented. The housing argument always claims we should look after our homeless first. As if it's either/or. The government could easily do both. There's enough vacant properties in the UK to house every homeless person. The fact is some don't want to be helped - sad, but true.

As for Australia? A decade ago I'd have agreed with you. But ask most Australians if they think they're well looked after by their government and you may be surprised at the replies.

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By *aughty but nice...Man over a year ago

Staffs

" No. The biggest problem in life is people's expectations of how life should be as opposed to how it actually is? The digital age is amazing but it sure created some delusional people."

I think I agree with this

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws.

This sounds like every rant I see on bookface and other social media but normally from someone in the 50's/60's, blaming all the country's woes on pesky immigrants and foreigners.

The UK has always been a diverse place to live populated by people of many ethnicities.

Increased tax? Not really. Certainly not in the right places (corporate) and focussing on tax avoidance which is a far greater issue ad loss of money to the country than benefit fraud.

As for Australia? A decade ago I'd have agreed with you. But ask most Australians if they think they're well looked after by their government and you may be surprised at the replies.

Well said that man.

Winston

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Going down / gone down the pan? Whichever people think, there are clearly positives and negatives. It saddens me the wealth imbalance and poverty, and needs of many, however we are still in a miles better place than so many other nations.

There do seem to be more needs of varying kinds but then our ‘averages’ and demographics often show we have created many of our own problems.

It’s not easy for many, but I think each generation has had challenges and quite a serious number wouldn’t shift generations - many older people say they wouldn’t wish to be in a younger person’s shoes, and I certainly wouldn’t wish to tread in the trenches as of veterans experiences either, much respect to those heroes.

Plenty of challenges but plenty to celebrate - help to do both and we make the world a better place.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

People are saying things guys.. what's going on ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yup years and years ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Waiting for the rabid EU Remoaners to enter the fray in 3…2…1

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws."

*insert Oprah smug face gif*

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It was perfect until Brexit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

110%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm of the opinion things are different today than a few years ago.

Here here

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By *yron69Man over a year ago

Fareham

it went downhill after the Romans left

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"it went downhill after the Romans left"

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

Working quite well for me and my family but I do think people have to take responsibility for themselves and if things aren't quite right they should work to improve their situation and area not every little issue can be solved by the government or should be expected to be improved on by the government.

Guarantee around 40% of people didn't even vote..

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

No, the vast majority of British people are decent, honest and hard working. Sadly we are led by someone who isn't. Let's not judge the country and the twats sat in Parliament.

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

"No, the vast majority of British people are decent, honest and hard working. Sadly we are led by someone who isn't. Let's not judge the country and the twats sat in Parliament."

*by not and

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By *ustintime69Man over a year ago

Bristol

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws.

This sounds like every rant I see on bookface and other social media but normally from someone in the 50's/60's, blaming all the country's woes on pesky immigrants and foreigners.

The UK has always been a diverse place to live populated by people of many ethnicities.

Increased tax? Not really. Certainly not in the right places (corporate) and focussing on tax avoidance which is a far greater issue ad loss of money to the country than benefit fraud.

As for Australia? A decade ago I'd have agreed with you. But ask most Australians if they think they're well looked after by their government and you may be surprised at the replies.

Some of what you say rings true but there are societal problems like drug and gang violence which have been made worse by the closure of youth clubs by this government. the youth workers who were often ex-gang members would help to stop kids joining gangs in the first place but like all the tories “ideas”, the removal of funding for these soft remedies was because it was all a bit woke and not about big sticks and being top dog…ie it didn’t make good headlines even though it was cheaper and more effective than “county lines” operations have proven to be! Another win for the old school tie! Btw I am in my fifties and still have a brain and conscience so don’t go all ageist on us!!!

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By *he AmbassadorMan over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

I think Thatcher sold ye down the river,

And her party control the media to direct the sway which and every way they want,,

If you look at Europe now, it's a sad state of affairs, Macron is the strongest leader and he barely won re-election, Angela picked the wro g time to retire, but I suspect she never thought a muppet clown would be elected into no. 10,

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By *6travellerMan over a year ago

Tayside, Midlands and Chester

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws.

This sounds like every rant I see on bookface and other social media but normally from someone in the 50's/60's, blaming all the country's woes on pesky immigrants and foreigners.

The UK has always been a diverse place to live populated by people of many ethnicities.

Increased tax? Not really. Certainly not in the right places (corporate) and focussing on tax avoidance which is a far greater issue ad loss of money to the country than benefit fraud.

As for Australia? A decade ago I'd have agreed with you. But ask most Australians if they think they're well looked after by their government and you may be surprised at the replies.

I agree completely.

There's been a major lack of funding for everything from mental health to youth work, replaced by spending on vanity projects such as HS2 and countless billions spunked up the wall on brexit that have put the country in a position that (along with covid) has left it financially impossible for many much needed projects to be supported.

If less focus was placed on making money for big corporates and making the country become more insular, and more focus was put on societal needs such as housing, health and education, then the population could stop fighting each other based on bullshit politics and division promoted by those in power and people could actually work in each others best interests.

Sadly I can't see that happening in my lifetime.

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By *he AmbassadorMan over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

"No, the vast majority of British people are decent, honest and hard working. Sadly we are led by someone who isn't. Let's not judge the country and the twats sat in Parliament."
but the sad thing here is,

That if a GE was in a week ye would vote Tory again, and from the outside looking in that ne er made sense,, a nation of working class (mostly) being run by elite snobs,,

But ye vote them in time and time again.

Not that we can talk over here, same 2 party's share the hot seat since independence.

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

You should try living in another country then F. moan.

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By *iaisonseekerMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Yes, it's a bloated museum of faded glories, imperialist fantasies and petty prejudices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, the vast majority of British people are decent, honest and hard working. Sadly we are led by someone who isn't. Let's not judge the country and the twats sat in Parliament. but the sad thing here is,

That if a GE was in a week ye would vote Tory again, and from the outside looking in that ne er made sense,, a nation of working class (mostly) being run by elite snobs,,

But ye vote them in time and time again.

Not that we can talk over here, same 2 party's share the hot seat since independence. "

Some people make out that it's all our fault if we don't vote or vote for the wrong party, but I think the whole thing is BS, fact is it makes sod all difference who or if you vote. The housing crisis has lasted through Tory and Labour governments and noone done sod all about it.

It started around 20 years ago about the time when immigration outstripped natural births in terms of population growth, but immigrants don't decide our border polices, we do, so there's equally sod all point blaming them.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"[Removed by poster at 29/04/22 22:34:21]"

Thought better of it? Yes, we did read it before it was deleted. Probably wise.

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By *ornucopiaMan over a year ago

Bexley

"It’s not as nice as it used to be. I’ve definitely seen signs of global warming affecting the UK and people seem crazier somehow. It’s noticeably busier too with more people. Maybe it’s just me. "

I'm affected by people using 'global warming' as a pretext to screw money out of me.

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By *batMan over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"Yes I noticed the UK changing around a young age noticed colour changes."

You say you're thirty? There are many people from non white families who have lived here waaaay longer than you! They've been British longer than 30 years too.

" lack of English speaking people"

I've always found people all over the world who speak some (or are fluent) in English. I also find a lot of English first language speakers are monoglots. I think your perspective might be a bit skewed here.

"crime increase"

Where do you get that data from? According to the Office of National Statistics, crime has been falling since 1997. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2021

"police have lack of powers"

Which powers do you think they should have that they don't already have? It's not often that police powers are repealed is it?

"increased tax, "

Generally speaking for many years, the 3 main taxes haven't changed much at all. (Income Tax, Nat Ins and VAT)

" left and right anger, protests, eco people, [ ... ] not free to speak out, "

Do you see how you actually contradicted yourself here?

"soft touch law,"

Which one is soft touch? What would you change?

" homes for people who have never paid a penny in the country but our own get nothing, benefits, List goes on."

You do understand that immigrants actually make the UK more prosperous don't you? I haven't added a link for you to read as there were so many to choose from. Just google "benefits of immigration UK" which should give you a good idea of the reality.

Asylum seekers are actually prohibited by law (One of the soft touch ones perhaps?) from working. They can't contribute whether they like it or not.

"If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws."

Can I ask why you haven't moved somewhere else then?

I support your right to your opinion, but no one's opinion changes facts.

Thanks for listening,

Gbat

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws."

The UK is a fantastic country to live in. But it's definitely on the decline. No small part down to misinformed hateful political opinions as demonstrated by this chap.

The ever widening gap between the rich and poor, and people voting consistently against their own interests are taking us in the wrong direction.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why would you want to buy shares in tinfoil?? You don't chase the dragon do you??

Your ignorance will be your downfall, ????????

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston

Winston"

I bet your fully vaxxed aswell aren't you ????

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

*runs off to check my tinfoil shares

Kerching!!!

Winston

I bet your fully vaxxed aswell aren't you ????"

And that has what exactly do do with the debate about the UK going down the pan?

Winston

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Your thoughts?"

In terms of what exactly?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It went down the pan many years ago followed by loads of turds and piss.

I think the UK would struggle to fit in a toilet pan. It's kinda weirdly shaped. I'm fairly sure Cornwall would stuff up the U-bend

Excuse me Cornwall is amazing

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By *haron StonerTV/TS over a year ago

Haywards Heath

What do you expect, your shit at everything. Why bother, nobody else cares about little ol'blighty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Waiting for the rabid EU Remoaners to enter the fray in 3…2…1 "

As usual the deluded Brexiteers keep banging the same drum nearly 6yrs on. Get over yourself, move on, Brexit failed not becausenof how people voted it failed because politicians are corrupt and only used it for thier own gain.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The whole world is in the toilet. And the mop is in the sink.

*one for country music fans.

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By *itygamesMan over a year ago

The people that so called run the country have put us and the uk in the position we are in right.....just proves they havent got a danny!

Talk the talk but never better anything or put anything right.

We only have one life and should be allowed to live it reasonably happy . Stress free and comfortably.

Its not like that.....we work hard and earn our money/wages then pay it all out on bills.

When you eventually own your house and die they take a huge percent .

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

It’s in a giant wok being stir fried

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By *akie32Man over a year ago

winchester

for me its the lack of respect people have for others, its rare to come across someone who puts a stranger pefore themself, this is obviously coming from the top down, people see our leaders do it and think its ok.

Everything seems to be all me,me,me.

this manifests itself in many ways, i travel alot, you dont see litter anywhere else , well in europe, like you do here, selfish driving etc.

Its like people have forgoten to be nice.

I always hold doors open for people, and most look suprised by it, thats not a good sign.

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By *mooth Operator 07Man over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

There will always be a yes and no. I visited North of Holland last week and infrastructure of buildings, railway ways etc is well ahead of the UK.

On the other hand, there are some countries in Europe are well behind the UK.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"It went down the pan many years ago followed by loads of turds and piss.

I think the UK would struggle to fit in a toilet pan. It's kinda weirdly shaped. I'm fairly sure Cornwall would stuff up the U-bend

Excuse me Cornwall is amazing

But it sticks out. It'd definitely block the pan if the UK went down it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, we are just world class whiners....

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

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By *partharmonyCouple over a year ago

Ruislip

It's too vague a question. The UK is better in some ways and worse in others. There are different definitions of down the pan.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

The Eden Valley is the greenest and least built up ward in England. You can see plenty of trees. It's not as rosy for everyone though.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Going down the pan, no I don't think so. However we are undeniably heading towards a very tough period, not for the first time in our history. If history repeats itself we'll eventually climb out of it only to repeat the whole sorry saga again and again

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?"

How can you say that there are more people than ever before in top-end cars with 500k houses there may job opportunities out there pay is going up Russia and Ukraine will make every more job in new electricity oil and gas infrastructure.

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare."

Inflation means we're all relatively less well off. The sector I work in has been decimated by the "B" word, so a lot of people I know are really struggling.

The economy is in ruins. The government is only concerned with getting themselves and their friends rich.

The gap between the rich and the poor is widening. More people than ever are using foodbanks, while the governments pals are still avoiding paying tax.

It's still a great country to live in. But we're going in the wrong direction fast.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare."

I'm retired. How can I prepare?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare.

I'm retired. How can I prepare?"

Have you heard of the Sunlife Over 50s Plan?! You get a free pen and everything

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare.

I'm retired. How can I prepare?

Have you heard of the Sunlife Over 50s Plan?! You get a free pen and everything

Jeez, what about that bloke who keeps taking a box of parsnips round to his neighbour. I think I'll put my faith in him

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare.

I'm retired. How can I prepare?

Have you heard of the Sunlife Over 50s Plan?! You get a free pen and everything

Jeez, what about that bloke who keeps taking a box of parsnips round to his neighbour. I think I'll put my faith in him "

Didn't Michael Parkinson advertise it? You can't go wrong with something financial, endorsed by a Yorkshireman, surely?!

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Wow lots of you can not see the wood for the trees the UK is a great country to live in fact

It is great. But it's definitely on the decline. Which I think is the point of the OP?

Jobs in hydrogen and nuclear to soon be created.

There is a recession on the way but have time to prepare.

I'm retired. How can I prepare?

Have you heard of the Sunlife Over 50s Plan?! You get a free pen and everything

Jeez, what about that bloke who keeps taking a box of parsnips round to his neighbour. I think I'll put my faith in him

Didn't Michael Parkinson advertise it? You can't go wrong with something financial, endorsed by a Yorkshireman, surely?! "

He did.

There's also an ad with the parsnip box man. It's so cheesy I nearly took a policy out from sheer pity.

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By *hgoonthenMan over a year ago

Smallwood

Ah bugger someone beat me to the response to this, well said that man. In terms of police powers, they have more than they ever have. I’d be interested to learn which powers are thought necessary that they don’t have?

"Yes I noticed the UK changing around a young age noticed colour changes.

You say you're thirty? There are many people from non white families who have lived here waaaay longer than you! They've been British longer than 30 years too.

lack of English speaking people

crime increase

police have lack of powers

Which powers do you think they should have that they don't already have? It's not often that police powers are repealed is it?

increased tax,

Generally speaking for many years, the 3 main taxes haven't changed much at all. (Income Tax, Nat Ins and VAT)

left and right anger, protests, eco people, [ ... ] not free to speak out,

Do you see how you actually contradicted yourself here?

soft touch law,

Which one is soft touch? What would you change?

homes for people who have never paid a penny in the country but our own get nothing, benefits, List goes on.

Asylum seekers are actually prohibited by law (One of the soft touch ones perhaps?) from working. They can't contribute whether they like it or not.

If someone asked me where is the best place to live I would say definitely not the UK, go to a proper country who looks after there citizens even Australia has better powers and laws.

Can I ask why you haven't moved somewhere else then?

I support your right to your opinion, but no one's opinion changes facts.

Thanks for listening,

Gbat "

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

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By *hgoonthenMan over a year ago

Smallwood

Yeah but apart from sanitation

"it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation? "

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation? "

Mosaics

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

Mosaics

Rabbits

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

Mosaics

Rabbits"

Dead straight roads

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK. "

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue. "

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe."

Have you looked at any of the local European news? Germany’s food & energy prices, as an example, are going up just as much as ours. The pinch is happening all over. It is not a UK specific problem.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe.

Indeed. Those problems are similar all over Europe.

They have the impact of the pandemic plus the war in Ukraine.

We have those, plus were all ready suffering from Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

Mosaics

Rabbits

Dead straight roads

Alright, alright. Other than the roads, rabbits, mosaics and sanitation what have the Romans ever done for us?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe.

Indeed. Those problems are similar all over Europe.

They have the impact of the pandemic plus the war in Ukraine.

We have those, plus were all ready suffering from Brexit."

No countries ‘suffering’ is worst, at the end of the day the poor and those working are or are going to struggle as prices rise everywhere.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe.

Indeed. Those problems are similar all over Europe.

They have the impact of the pandemic plus the war in Ukraine.

We have those, plus were all ready suffering from Brexit.

No countries ‘suffering’ is worst, at the end of the day the poor and those working are or are going to struggle as prices rise everywhere. "

True.

In any case. This country is on the decline for many reasons. And generally faster than anywhere else.

Despite which, it's still a nice country to live in. Despite the problems.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah sadly it’s on its knees everything is going up in price and no increase in wages etc. very difficult times for us all in the UK.

….. and elsewhere in the world, it is not just a UK issue.

UK is suffering more than most countries. Especially in Europe.

Indeed. Those problems are similar all over Europe.

They have the impact of the pandemic plus the war in Ukraine.

We have those, plus were all ready suffering from Brexit.

No countries ‘suffering’ is worst, at the end of the day the poor and those working are or are going to struggle as prices rise everywhere.

True.

In any case. This country is on the decline for many reasons. And generally faster than anywhere else.

Despite which, it's still a nice country to live in. Despite the problems."

It is nice country to live in but very difficult times for us all residing here going forward.

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By *ensuallover1000Man over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

I would say the whole world apparently has in many ways.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Your thoughts?"
. No No No No No No Ere and No I love the Uk not keen on the winter and 90% of the people on Fab but that’s it

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

Mosaics

Rabbits

Dead straight roads

Alright, alright. Other than the roads, rabbits, mosaics and sanitation what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Introduced:

Food street stalls

Advertising and trademarks

Architecture

First 365 day calendar

Currency

Underfloor heating

Large bath houses....

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By *ornucopiaMan over a year ago

Bexley

"Yeah but apart from sanitation

it went downhill after the Romans left

What did the Romans ever do for us?!

Sanitation?

Mosaics

Rabbits

Dead straight roads

Alright, alright. Other than the roads, rabbits, mosaics and sanitation what have the Romans ever done for us?

Introduced:

Food street stalls

Advertising and trademarks

Architecture

First 365 day calendar

Currency

Underfloor heating

Large bath houses....

Why are orgies missing from both lists?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im off to play rugby union to smash and break torys about next season

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No. Very sunny here. Loving it!

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

Yep

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe it’ll get nuked.

I’ll pray for you.

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

Not even read the comments.

Don't need to, this is the most unique country that has too many people complaining of there own problems, compared to a lot of other countries your problems are minor.

If you don't like it here then P&O ferries will take you somewhere better.

It's the most vibrant interesting country you could want.

Make the most of what you have,it's going to vanish.

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By *batMan over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

" this is the most unique country."

Genuine question.

Why do you think it’s the most unique? To my mind, of course it’s got stuff going on that’s unique to the UK, but most countries have something unique going on. Why is it the MOST unique country in your view? What’s the UK got that trumps everywhere else?

" It's the most vibrant interesting country you could want."

Why do you think that? What’s more vibrant than say Las Ramblas, or Patagonia, perhaps Berlin? (Or wherever).

What is so much more interesting in the UK that doesn’t have an equally interesting event/place/custom elsewhere?

I appreciate you have a valid opinion, but a lot of people (obviously me!) will disagree with you.

And just for complete disclosure, I did get a different passport and go to live somewhere else, but we used Brittany Ferries, not P&O.

I’m not picking an argument, I’m just keen to understand your viewpoint.

Cheers,

Gbat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Living here is like living in Spain. But the S is silent.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pain

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

" this is the most unique country.

Genuine question.

It's the most vibrant interesting country you could want.

Why do you think that? What’s more vibrant than say Las Ramblas, or Patagonia, perhaps Berlin? (Or wherever).

What is so much more interesting in the UK that doesn’t have an equally interesting event/place/custom elsewhere?

I appreciate you have a valid opinion, but a lot of people (obviously me!) will disagree with you.

And just for complete disclosure, I did get a different passport and go to live somewhere else, but we used Brittany Ferries, not P&O.

I’m not picking an argument, I’m just keen to understand your viewpoint.

Cheers,

Gbat

It's called an opinion like or lump it.

Incidentally if people moan about the UK I don't mind which ferry they take.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan "

So it would seem grammar.

Should it not read " has gone down the pan " .

If your going to play the smart ass you could at least try to be perfect yourself.

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By *batMan over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

" I appreciate you have a valid opinion, but a lot of people (obviously me!) will disagree with you.

I’m not picking an argument, I’m just keen to understand your viewpoint.

Cheers,

Gbat

IT'S CALLED AN OPINION, LIKE IT OR LUMP IT."

Yeah, I referenced that already. As you put your thoughts onto a discussion thread I thought it would be okay to discuss them. Like as if we were chatting in the pub or something.

Of course you have an opinion! Who doesn't?

I was just hoping that you could explain your opinion to me. Currently I don't like it, but I'm not sure how to lump it. I thought you might even be able to change my view on this. I'm always happy to adapt and grow if I learn something new.

Is it that you WON'T engage in this discussion or you CAN'T actually validate what you said? That's quite common so don't worry.

Thanks anyway and happy fabbing.

Gba

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan

So it would seem grammar.

Should it not read " has gone down the pan " .

If your going to play the smart ass you could at least try to be perfect yourself.

Your?

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By *g1231974Man over a year ago

wetherby

"Judging by the thread title it appears literacy is gone down the pan "

Did you mean has rather than is?

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

Anyone struggling with their sociology essay will be able to write the best one ever using the plethora of good material found in this thread. I am so glad I joined fab to further enlighten myself about the wonderful and weird world I live in. The polarisation of opinion is always what amazes me most, especially when it's based on nothing more than personal prejudices and circumstances rather thsn a true evaluation of the world we collectively live in. There are of course better and worse places to live in therefore what is important is that we find ways to improve things in our society. Especially how we show compassion and provide real support for those in need and volunable people suffering at the moment. Politics often gets in the way of good human behaviour and compassion for one another

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Anyone struggling with their sociology essay will be able to write the best one ever using the plethora of good material found in this thread. I am so glad I joined fab to further enlighten myself about the wonderful and weird world I live in. The polarisation of opinion is always what amazes me most, especially when it's based on nothing more than personal prejudices and circumstances rather thsn a true evaluation of the world we collectively live in. There are of course better and worse places to live in therefore what is important is that we find ways to improve things in our society. Especially how we show compassion and provide real support for those in need and volunable people suffering at the moment. Politics often gets in the way of good human behaviour and compassion for one another

Ps I have noticed the couple of typos in my thread. I just can't be bothered with the * so early in the morning

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

Ps I have noticed the couple of typos in my thread. I just can't be bothered with the * so early in the morning

You see, I even sad thread when I meant to say post. Have a lovely day

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

You're opinion's wrong...

No you're opinions wrong because you have no evidence

I don't need no evidence it's my opinion...

Ok well your grammar is rubbish..

Well yours is also imperfect

Next thread

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

" I appreciate you have a valid opinion, but a lot of people (obviously me!) will disagree with you.

I’m not picking an argument, I’m just keen to understand your viewpoint.

Cheers,

Gbat

IT'S CALLED AN OPINION, LIKE IT OR LUMP IT.

Yeah, I referenced that already. As you put your thoughts onto a discussion thread I thought it would be okay to discuss them. Like as if we were chatting in the pub or something.

Of course you have an opinion! Who doesn't?

Is it that you WON'T engage in this discussion or you CAN'T validate what you said? That's quite common so don't worry.

Thanks anyway and happy fabbing.

Gba "

I expressed my opinion on the UK. Two of your alternatives are cities, enough said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes. We don't stick up for eachother at all like other countries do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good and bad all over the UK but I prefer to stay positive and optimistic that it’s still a good country compared to a lot of others around the world. Some things really need to be sorted out, immigrants crossing the channel every day for a start, but I still love it and Wales in particular..for obvious reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Watch Eurovision ...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Watch Eurovision ... "

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watch Eurovision ...

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit..."

Which is positive, yes?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Watch Eurovision ...

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit...

Which is positive, yes?"

Musically, yes. Doesn't mean anything else though.

The popular vote (about to start) will tell us more about how we're perceived...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes too many Karen's.. snowflakes..woke and human rights lawyers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watch Eurovision ...

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit...

Which is positive, yes?

Musically, yes. Doesn't mean anything else though.

The popular vote (about to start) will tell us more about how we're perceived..."

Lol, it wasn't meant as a serious comment. But done well nevertheless.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Watch Eurovision ...

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit...

Which is positive, yes?

Musically, yes. Doesn't mean anything else though.

The popular vote (about to start) will tell us more about how we're perceived...

Lol, it wasn't meant as a serious comment. But done well nevertheless. "

Situation normal. The European public hate us

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

We are Europeans...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes too many Karen's.. snowflakes..woke and human rights lawyers "
blame tony blairs wife

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Watch Eurovision ...

All that means is some music industry professionals across Europe/bits of the world think our song had merit...

Which is positive, yes?

Musically, yes. Doesn't mean anything else though.

The popular vote (about to start) will tell us more about how we're perceived...

Lol, it wasn't meant as a serious comment. But done well nevertheless.

Situation normal. The European public hate us

Sure but they hate all the other countries apart from Ukraine and Moldova even more.... If the public vote is a bell weather...

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By *batMan over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

" I expressed my opinion on the UK. Two of your alternatives are cities, enough said."

Yeah, I guess you wouldn't have anything to support what you'd said. I wasn't surprised.

The places I named were "for instance." (Only one of them is a city by the way).

How do you give an opinion on the whole of the UK when you haven't been to the whole of the UK? Then how do you compare that to (For instance) the whole of Ecuador when you haven't been to the whole of Ecuador?

Not to worry, I guess we'll never have this conversation.

Gbat

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well the world pretty much...

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By *tephanjMan over a year ago

Kettering

UK is great it's all the politicians that make it crap. You have the Scottish woman who want to rule over everything. We got an English twat who couldn't organise a piss up quietly, and I have no idea what the Welshman is up

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By *lint-EverhardMan over a year ago

Perpignan and cap

I left while I still could. Moved to France.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day. "

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment.

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan over a year ago

Willenhall

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment. "

Opinions are like arseholes.

Everybody has one.

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By *nergeticlemurMan over a year ago

wiltshire

Depends how you look at it. In some ways yes however some of the things that make it crap like housing prices, crap politicians etc are problems occuring in every country. The world in general has gotten greedier and in a big hurry People wise I've never had a problem with our little islands population, a few spoil it for the rest but most people I meet are lovely.

The countryside as well is still some of the most beautiful about and I wouldn't change it for any other

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

I think this thread is the perfect illustration about why the UK doesn't 'feel' as good as it used to be. It's full of loons. And the loons have a greater voice.

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment.

Opinions are like arseholes.

Everybody has one."

The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

I rest my case.

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment. "

An opinion is not a statement that might be required to be based in facts.

If someone has an opinion that you smell, they don't have to give you facts, just give you a wide berth.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think this thread is the perfect illustration about why the UK doesn't 'feel' as good as it used to be. It's full of loons. And the loons have a greater voice. "

Perhaps we should go back to the noise of looms? Simpler times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment.

An opinion is not a statement that might be required to be based in facts.

If someone has an opinion that you smell, they don't have to give you facts, just give you a wide berth."

Indeed. I was agreeing with you. But simply adding that an opinion without a basis that can be explained and argued is of little merit. An opinion granted, but one of little value.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think this thread is the perfect illustration about why the UK doesn't 'feel' as good as it used to be. It's full of loons. And the loons have a greater voice.

Perhaps we should go back to the noise of looms? Simpler times

And what of their fruit?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I think this thread is the perfect illustration about why the UK doesn't 'feel' as good as it used to be. It's full of loons. And the loons have a greater voice.

Perhaps we should go back to the noise of looms? Simpler times

And what of their fruit?

Those fecking t-shirts from the 90s

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No idea but don't think so though I'm feeling a little flush at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No idea but don't think so though I'm feeling a little flush at the moment."

Mare you serious, or just pulling our chain?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Non Dom billionaires telling journalists and politicians (who all went to the same schools and universities) what to do in order to make a few people even more rich and powerful, and the electoral system rigged to always keep it that way. Can’t bear it anymore

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By * U mineMan over a year ago

Fun

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment.

An opinion is not a statement that might be required to be based in facts.

If someone has an opinion that you smell, they don't have to give you facts, just give you a wide berth.

Indeed. I was agreeing with you. But simply adding that an opinion without a basis that can be explained and argued is of little merit. An opinion granted, but one of little value. "

Do you believe in God?

Either way, you don't have facts you have your belief ,aka (opions).

Your statement means which ever way you believe, your thoughts have no merit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Christ, is this still going

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan over a year ago

golden fields

" this is the most unique country.

Genuine question.

It's the most vibrant interesting country you could want.

Why do you think that? What’s more vibrant than say Las Ramblas, or Patagonia, perhaps Berlin? (Or wherever).

What is so much more interesting in the UK that doesn’t have an equally interesting event/place/custom elsewhere?

I appreciate you have a valid opinion, but a lot of people (obviously me!) will disagree with you.

And just for complete disclosure, I did get a different passport and go to live somewhere else, but we used Brittany Ferries, not P&O.

I’m not picking an argument, I’m just keen to understand your viewpoint.

Cheers,

Gbat

It's called an opinion like or lump it.

Incidentally if people moan about the UK I don't mind which ferry they take.

This guy really encapsulated everything wrong with the UK at the moment.

Anyone who wants the country to be the best it can be. Can fuck off somewhere else. And everyone who shuts up and puts up can stay.

Sad times.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The people of the UK make the Uk what it is.

Opinion

a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

"that, in my opinion, is right"

I don't have to try or worry about justifying.

Have a nice day.

Very true!

But an opinion without a basis of fact is like a fart. Something that once passed is not worth further comment.

An opinion is not a statement that might be required to be based in facts.

If someone has an opinion that you smell, they don't have to give you facts, just give you a wide berth.

Indeed. I was agreeing with you. But simply adding that an opinion without a basis that can be explained and argued is of little merit. An opinion granted, but one of little value.

Do you believe in God?

Either way, you don't have facts you have your belief ,aka (opions).

Your statement means which ever way you believe, your thoughts have no merit."

I suggest you research the difference between fact, opinion and belief. All the best.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"Christ, is this still going

Not for much longer

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Fin

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