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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news."
This has happened to us & we swapped as only a short flight. They gave us free drinks & a refund of the seat booking fee. It’s no big deal really but I wouldn’t have swapped if we’d had extra legroom !!! |
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over a year ago
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I’ll just move. It’s a choice between sitting next to your partner, but having a screaming kid in front of you, or flying in peace. I don’t really get the whole “I must sit next to my partner”
I get on a plane, I shut my eyes and sleep. Scarlett Johannson or Chris Hemsworth could be sat next to me and I wouldn’t care less. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news.
This has happened to us & we swapped as only a short flight. They gave us free drinks & a refund of the seat booking fee. It’s no big deal really but I wouldn’t have swapped if we’d had extra legroom !!! "
I’m with you on this. However I’d have swapped to sit next to you.  |
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Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving. |
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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago
Leeds (Home) / Sheffield (Work) |
Need more context to make a decision. Maybe I’d move, maybe I wouldn’t… Most likely I would if it was a short flight, and because I’d put a child's need above my own. Though I would be a little little grumpy inside. |
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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago
Leeds (Home) / Sheffield (Work) |
"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving. "
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it. |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving.
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it. "
I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo |
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How old is the daughter? If she was a younger child then yes I would let them sit together, if she was teenagerish type age then her mother is only 1 row behind and I would seriously think about saying no.  |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving.
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it.
I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo "
Maybe they were the only seats left an weren’t given the option. Once seats are booked, you can only take what’s available. |
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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago
Leeds (Home) / Sheffield (Work) |
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I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo "
Hmm bit more than usual. I wonder which airline it was with. From ryan air to emirates, I’ve never been charged that much per seat. |
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By *eliusMan
over a year ago
Henlow |
No! I paid she had the choice to and didn’t…. Just play the ‘my kid’ card in the hope that you get the seating arrangement you want without paying the premium.
But if you choose to give up your seat, then fair play to you. |
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I would politely say no. That’s what prebooking your seats is for.
On a side note if all seats are pre booked it makes it easier to id the bodies if the worst happens. Sorry to drag the thread down. |
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over a year ago
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I always pay to pre-book my seat because my child would not cope being sat next to strangers. I think a lot of people are under the impression that airlines will always seat a child with a parent but this is actually not guaranteed unless you pay to pre-book. |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving. "
This is what also occurred to me. Why didn't she plan better? |
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Pre Covid I flew every week sometimes 4 flights per day always at least 4 per week to Europe and back and I always book an aisle seat. Main reason is I have a long standing neck injury and I can’t be squashed in. As long as I had an aisle seat to swap to I don’t mind but I wouldn’t swap otherwise. Many times it’s because they try it on to save money and I have no sympathy |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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Find out if the people sitting next to the daughter are willing to swap seats first. I'd not mind moving too much, but if there is another option first, since I'd have paid extra, I'd rather that option used first. |
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Had something similair like this on the way to Mauritius. Honeymoon couple wanted our seats.
No deal we paid and prebooked so why should we be apart for 13 hours.
I would weigh it up on its merits at the time. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news."
Move. It's not the end of the world but it will make the world of difference to that person.
On a separate note. I dislike having to pay additional costs to be sat next to the people I am travelling with! I've already paid for my seat. Why should I pay again. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news.
Move. It's not the end of the world but it will make the world of difference to that person.
On a separate note. I dislike having to pay additional costs to be sat next to the people I am travelling with! I've already paid for my seat. Why should I pay again. "
It’s a commodity that the airline has figured people are prepared to pay for. If people are happy to pay it, they’ll gladly sell it. Personally I choose not to as well. It does no harm sitting apart. I have had some lovely conversations with complete strangers on planes. |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread…. 
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad. "
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news.
Move. It's not the end of the world but it will make the world of difference to that person.
On a separate note. I dislike having to pay additional costs to be sat next to the people I am travelling with! I've already paid for my seat. Why should I pay again.
It’s a commodity that the airline has figured people are prepared to pay for. If people are happy to pay it, they’ll gladly sell it. Personally I choose not to as well. It does no harm sitting apart. I have had some lovely conversations with complete strangers on planes."
Yeah....it's all Ryan air lol
I am going on a fly cruise with my mum and I've told her I am not paying £35 per seat each way to sit next to her for 9 hours! I might pay to make sure i am sat at the other end of the plane....14 days together is long enough  |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones. "
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats. |
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news.
This has happened to us & we swapped as only a short flight. They gave us free drinks & a refund of the seat booking fee. It’s no big deal really but I wouldn’t have swapped if we’d had extra legroom !!!
I’m with you on this. However I’d have swapped to sit next to you. "
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones.
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats."
10 years of flying 100+ flights a year to Europe , the seats have to be booked, it’s not a bus sit where you like. |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones.
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats.
10 years of flying 100+ flights a year to Europe , the seats have to be booked, it’s not a bus sit where you like. "
Except they don't always. I flew with TUI last year to fuerterventura and we were told if we wanted to guarantee that we could sit together we would have to pay £35 per passenger per flight. If we didn't we just took pot luck on what was left. |
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over a year ago
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread…. "
If I paid for specific seats then that's where I will sit.
If you want to pay then move, good for you.  |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones.
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats.
10 years of flying 100+ flights a year to Europe , the seats have to be booked, it’s not a bus sit where you like.
Except they don't always. I flew with TUI last year to fuerterventura and we were told if we wanted to guarantee that we could sit together we would have to pay £35 per passenger per flight. If we didn't we just took pot luck on what was left. "
Exactly my point, pay for the seat or take the consequences |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones.
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats.
10 years of flying 100+ flights a year to Europe , the seats have to be booked, it’s not a bus sit where you like. "
So if there’s not 2 seats available together, as all others booked already then what? |
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"The me me me mentality is strong in this thread….
Globally in fact. The death of altruism is really sad.
They could have paid but aren’t prepared to , why should I visit somewhere else and cause myself more pain from an injury? They are the selfish ones.
How do you know that they could have paid? As said earlier, if the flight is full you have to take the available seats.
10 years of flying 100+ flights a year to Europe , the seats have to be booked, it’s not a bus sit where you like.
So if there’s not 2 seats available together, as all others booked already then what?"
Then, as I said, if I can swap to an aisle seat I would happily do so, if it’s not then no I wouldn’t. If I flew in the middle seat or even window then I would need an osteopath when I got off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've only ever paid to sit together if travelling with my children and once on a girls holiday. Other wise I'm not fussed about who I sit next to as I go straight to sleep. But yes, I'd move for a parent to be with their child as companies don't naturally put parents and children together once the child is over a certain age. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You have booked two seats together and paid extra for the privilege to sit with your partner. You have the window seat and the middle seat of three. A lady next to you in the aisle seat has her daughter sat in front of her in the aisle seat directly in front.
This lady asks if you will swap seats so that she can sit next to her daughter because the daughter does not like flying. This would mean that although you have paid extra to guarantee sitting next to your partner that you will be split. What do you do?
This dilemma is all over the news."
You should not have to accommodate someone else’s piss poor planning especially if you paid extra for specific seats. |
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
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What if she couldn't afford the extra cost of didn't realise she would be be say with people she knew? |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving. "
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
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Exactly. The number of times I’ve asked why they weren’t together with their partner etc and had the answer “oh we thought we would chance it as we didn’t want to pay”
This is on Schipol , Munich,Brussels , Venice routes I took several times a week |
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I would politely inform her I had paid extra for my seat and suggest she ask a crew member to sort it out for her
As others have previously mentioned, if that was the case she should have paid extra too or stated to an attended as she boarded |
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
What if she couldn't afford the extra cost of didn't realise she would be be say with people she knew?"
We all have options if you choose or cannot take up those options, then you need to take the pot luck of what seats you are allocated.
It is not like this is something new, been around for years. |
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By *rispyDuckMan
over a year ago
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Would depend on few factors
1) Their tone of voice when asking. If sounds genuine & sincere I will consider. If sounds like a demand/ entitled its a hell no.
2) How my partner would feel about being separated.
3) How long the flight is & if was a special occasion we flying
4) How old the person they asking me to swap with is/ do they have any special needs etc
5) My mood on the said day |
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
What if she couldn't afford the extra cost of didn't realise she would be be say with people she knew?"
Personally I view air travel as a luxury, and if you can't afford it, you shouldn't go. |
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I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Hmm bit more than usual. I wonder which airline it was with. From ryan air to emirates, I’ve never been charged that much per seat. "
Yeah it seemed a lot to me to be fair |
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I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Hmm bit more than usual. I wonder which airline it was with. From ryan air to emirates, I’ve never been charged that much per seat.
Yeah it seemed a lot to me to be fair "
TUI charge £35 per seat per flight |
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
What if she couldn't afford the extra cost of didn't realise she would be be say with people she knew?
Personally I view air travel as a luxury, and if you can't afford it, you shouldn't go."
But they can afford the air flight. It's the ridiculous seat tax they perhaps hadn't factored in.
When you pay for seats to anything else such as the theatre or a concert you don't pay extra to be say together. It's a con paid into by willing sheep. |
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What about the other people sitting in the daughters row? Couldn't one of them had moved? If that was my child, I'd make sure we were sat together. Or even ask anyone else on the plane of they'd mind swapping.
But haven't they ever seen final destination?! |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving.
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it.
I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Maybe they were the only seats left an weren’t given the option. Once seats are booked, you can only take what’s available."
In that case I would have sorted it out at check in or at the boarding gate,, with staff, not in the aisle with another passenger, I absolutely would not have risked leaving it if my child were a nervous passenger . IIRC Most carriers allow overbooking to yield the max capacity to compensate for no show and cancellation so there is usually an element of wiggle room when booking specific seats. The carrier doesn’t like to allow the system online to close out a flight prematurely so you can almost always contact them to arrange special requirements and they can ‘move a few things around’ |
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I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Hmm bit more than usual. I wonder which airline it was with. From ryan air to emirates, I’ve never been charged that much per seat.
Yeah it seemed a lot to me to be fair
TUI charge £35 per seat per flight "
Yowsers! That’s the joy of the package deal I guess you can’t really shop around and get like for like. That’s a lot of money if you’re a big group isn’t it? |
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"Would depend on few factors
1) Their tone of voice when asking. If sounds genuine & sincere I will consider. If sounds like a demand/ entitled its a hell no.
2) How my partner would feel about being separated.
3) How long the flight is & if was a special occasion we flying
4) How old the person they asking me to swap with is/ do they have any special needs etc
5) My mood on the said day "
Mainly #5 for me  |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving.
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it.
I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Maybe they were the only seats left an weren’t given the option. Once seats are booked, you can only take what’s available.
In that case I would have sorted it out at check in or at the boarding gate,, with staff, not in the aisle with another passenger, I absolutely would not have risked leaving it if my child were a nervous passenger . IIRC Most carriers allow overbooking to yield the max capacity to compensate for no show and cancellation so there is usually an element of wiggle room when booking specific seats. The carrier doesn’t like to allow the system online to close out a flight prematurely so you can almost always contact them to arrange special requirements and they can ‘move a few things around’"
I agree, that is how i would approach the problem if it existed for me.
What happens when everyone turns up for an over subscribed flight? Are passengers re-scheduled? |
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"Surely if the option was there to pay to choose your seats, and it was that important to her to sit next to her daughter, she would have done so. If I'd paid extra to guarantee being able to sit next to my partner then it is obviously important to me and I wouldn't be moving.
Yes I agree. It’s not a lot to pay compared to the price of a ticket. Often £7-12 per seat selection, per flight. I understand some people may find an additional say £40 a lot of money (2x seat selection at £10, for return flights) but I think in most cases people can manage it.
I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Maybe they were the only seats left an weren’t given the option. Once seats are booked, you can only take what’s available.
In that case I would have sorted it out at check in or at the boarding gate,, with staff, not in the aisle with another passenger, I absolutely would not have risked leaving it if my child were a nervous passenger . IIRC Most carriers allow overbooking to yield the max capacity to compensate for no show and cancellation so there is usually an element of wiggle room when booking specific seats. The carrier doesn’t like to allow the system online to close out a flight prematurely so you can almost always contact them to arrange special requirements and they can ‘move a few things around’
I agree, that is how i would approach the problem if it existed for me.
What happens when everyone turns up for an over subscribed flight? Are passengers re-scheduled?"
Yeah they offer people the chance to get the next flight and usually you get compensation and if the airline has different classes on that route you’ll probs get put up a class on the next flight, also hotel and food if needed. It’s a good deal if you’re not time sensitive. |
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over a year ago
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"How old is the daughter ?
If an adult then they should have thought about that before travelling & pre booked seats.
What if she couldn't afford the extra cost of didn't realise she would be be say with people she knew?
Personally I view air travel as a luxury, and if you can't afford it, you shouldn't go.
But they can afford the air flight. It's the ridiculous seat tax they perhaps hadn't factored in.
***When you pay for seats to anything else such as the theatre or a concert you don't pay extra to be say together. It's a con paid into by willing sheep. ***"
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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago
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I think I read it was £22 per person in this instance.
If the mother wanted to ensure being side by side with child she should have paid to reserve seats accordingly imo
Hmm bit more than usual. I wonder which airline it was with. From ryan air to emirates, I’ve never been charged that much per seat.
Yeah it seemed a lot to me to be fair
TUI charge £35 per seat per flight
Yowsers! That’s the joy of the package deal I guess you can’t really shop around and get like for like. That’s a lot of money if you’re a big group isn’t it? "
TUI oh my days. I found better flights with Turkish airlines (who have a new route from Manchester to Antalya direct now) for a much better price.
I don’t know why anyone would pay TUI flight prices. Aren’t they the same comfort level as easyjet and jet2? Then again if people are happy to pay for holiday packages then they’ll be on the TUI flights.
TUI are just so over priced and cheaper to book the same deal yourself with the flights and hotels separate! |
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I've had a very similar situation happen.
I'd paid for an extra leg room seat on an 11 hour flight, family had been split up at different ends of the aircraft.
Mother in the normal seat behind me asked me to swap with their son who was at the other end if the aircraft so they could be together.
Politely told where to go. Piss poor planning on your part is not my issue. |
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Some of us aren't allowed to just choose and book any seat on the plane, no matter how much we pay. Extra legroom seats? Nope. Over a wing? Not allowed, madam. By an emergency exit? No can do.
Right at the back, crammed in under the bulkhead? Yes, ma'am, yourself disabled arse can be seated there.
Now, these also happen to be the "cheap seats" (because they're cramped and at the back). I'm actually not allowed to book these other more premium seats because disabled people are expected to just die quietly at the back. It's not happened yet, but there may be an occasion in future where there aren't two cheap seats left to book together. I'm sure my 5yo would be fine in an extra legroom, over wing seat by herself, perhaps she could swing her little legs really obviously for the tall people in the cheap seats to see?
BUT if "the system" doesn't allow me to choose (and pay for) a seat next to her (let's say, in an over wing row) and the only options are single seats at the back, am I supposed to sit in row 33 and she on her own in row 10?
But no-one thought about whether there might be any disability which, if declared as a special requirement at the point of booking, may limit the choice of seats to pre-book.
Oh, and I'm forced to only choose window seats on Ryanair and easyJet. That means I can only choose WINDOW cheap seats at the back. Not middle or aisle. At least I'll get a window seat view while we plummet to Earth, eh?! |
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I put a lot of planning into every trip I take, from airport carpark to car hire to hotels /airb&b the flights, more so when my 2 young kids travel with me,,
If you are travelling with a family/group and just wing it then, that's your lot,
Not a chance I'm giving up my seat for someone who has the same options I had while booking,,
Tough shite and the cheek to make a big deal of it. |
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"Some of us aren't allowed to just choose and book any seat on the plane, no matter how much we pay. Extra legroom seats? Nope. Over a wing? Not allowed, madam. By an emergency exit? No can do.
Right at the back, crammed in under the bulkhead? Yes, ma'am, yourself disabled arse can be seated there.
Now, these also happen to be the "cheap seats" (because they're cramped and at the back). I'm actually not allowed to book these other more premium seats because disabled people are expected to just die quietly at the back. It's not happened yet, but there may be an occasion in future where there aren't two cheap seats left to book together. I'm sure my 5yo would be fine in an extra legroom, over wing seat by herself, perhaps she could swing her little legs really obviously for the tall people in the cheap seats to see?
BUT if "the system" doesn't allow me to choose (and pay for) a seat next to her (let's say, in an over wing row) and the only options are single seats at the back, am I supposed to sit in row 33 and she on her own in row 10?
But no-one thought about whether there might be any disability which, if declared as a special requirement at the point of booking, may limit the choice of seats to pre-book.
Oh, and I'm forced to only choose window seats on Ryanair and easyJet. That means I can only choose WINDOW cheap seats at the back. Not middle or aisle. At least I'll get a window seat view while we plummet to Earth, eh?! "
Bet it’s no fun trying to get down the steps of the plane when abroad either. They don’t always have air bridges. |
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When I travel for work i make sure I'm not sat with anyone else, but I'm usually tied to my seat as I'm veggie, so i would decline to move (otherwise I'd lose my meals)
... But if she was literally sat in front of her mum, is it any different to being in a car?? |
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"Some of us aren't allowed to just choose and book any seat on the plane, no matter how much we pay. Extra legroom seats? Nope. Over a wing? Not allowed, madam. By an emergency exit? No can do.
Right at the back, crammed in under the bulkhead? Yes, ma'am, yourself disabled arse can be seated there.
Now, these also happen to be the "cheap seats" (because they're cramped and at the back). I'm actually not allowed to book these other more premium seats because disabled people are expected to just die quietly at the back. It's not happened yet, but there may be an occasion in future where there aren't two cheap seats left to book together. I'm sure my 5yo would be fine in an extra legroom, over wing seat by herself, perhaps she could swing her little legs really obviously for the tall people in the cheap seats to see?
BUT if "the system" doesn't allow me to choose (and pay for) a seat next to her (let's say, in an over wing row) and the only options are single seats at the back, am I supposed to sit in row 33 and she on her own in row 10?
But no-one thought about whether there might be any disability which, if declared as a special requirement at the point of booking, may limit the choice of seats to pre-book.
Oh, and I'm forced to only choose window seats on Ryanair and easyJet. That means I can only choose WINDOW cheap seats at the back. Not middle or aisle. At least I'll get a window seat view while we plummet to Earth, eh?!
Bet it’s no fun trying to get down the steps of the plane when abroad either. They don’t always have air bridges."
I can't use the aircraft stairs. I'm plonked on/off using an AmbuLift, which has to be pre-booked. I've only ever had problems at Manchester Airport, where they've variously forgotten about me or tried to force me to get down the steps ("someone will hold your arms" - NO, they fucking well won't!)
Yes, I'm that person who might delay your flight because I have to wait to be boarded/deplaned, even if the plane and the crew and everyone else is ready, it's not my fault I'm still waiting. So, please don't glare at me as I shuffle into my cheap window seat  |
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As a long term flyer with children, the airline is not allowed to split a child under 12 from a parent as there has to be a responsible person to care for said child.
If they do split (which they won’t) the child would be classed as an unaccompanied minor and this raises a whole level of the airlines duty of care & safe guarding. |
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"As a long term flyer with children, the airline is not allowed to split a child under 12 from a parent as there has to be a responsible person to care for said child.
Tell Ryanair that..
If they do split (which they won’t) the child would be classed as an unaccompanied minor and this raises a whole level of the airlines duty of care & safe guarding. "
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty "
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would. |
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would. "
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent. |
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would.
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent. "
Just realised as I book the extra legroom seats a child wouldn’t be allowed to sit there anyway so my comments are irrelevant really. It can’t happen. Any other time I would have my own child with me so no I wouldn’t swap and leave my own child. |
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would.
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent.
Just realised as I book the extra legroom seats a child wouldn’t be allowed to sit there anyway so my comments are irrelevant really. It can’t happen. Any other time I would have my own child with me so no I wouldn’t swap and leave my own child. "
Also if I couldn’t book a seat next to my 2 year old child I wouldn’t be booking the flight. |
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over a year ago
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would.
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent. "
And the responsibility for her during the flight would be thrust upon the adults she was sharing her row with. Now, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest as I love children, but someone might not be too pleased about babysitting someone else's child.
I'd ask the parent/carer what the child was allowed from the trolley and have a little pre-holiday plane party.
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A few years ago I was sat next to a child on a plane and was asked to move so her father could sit with her. Her mother and other daughter were in the row behind. I said no problem and moved to a worse seat that the father originally had....
Shortly after takeoff the stewardess came round and said the father didn't like the seat and wanted to move back to his original one.
I was left with his irate wife behind me and his daughter next to me for a 10 hour flight..... |
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"A few years ago I was sat next to a child on a plane and was asked to move so her father could sit with her. Her mother and other daughter were in the row behind. I said no problem and moved to a worse seat that the father originally had....
Shortly after takeoff the stewardess came round and said the father didn't like the seat and wanted to move back to his original one.
I was left with his irate wife behind me and his daughter next to me for a 10 hour flight..... "
What happened after that ? |
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"A few years ago I was sat next to a child on a plane and was asked to move so her father could sit with her. Her mother and other daughter were in the row behind. I said no problem and moved to a worse seat that the father originally had....
Shortly after takeoff the stewardess came round and said the father didn't like the seat and wanted to move back to his original one.
I was left with his irate wife behind me and his daughter next to me for a 10 hour flight..... "
He's not stupid. Probably ordered a few drinks and snacks to eat in peace. |
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would.
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent.
And the responsibility for her during the flight would be thrust upon the adults she was sharing her row with. Now, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest as I love children, but someone might not be too pleased about babysitting someone else's child.
I'd ask the parent/carer what the child was allowed from the trolley and have a little pre-holiday plane party.
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If I travelled on an aeroplane with my daughter and not with Mr KC, I'd need to ask staff to do things like help her to get into the loo because I wouldn't be able to do it myself. I can't even get myself into my seat.
In reality, I wouldn't book unless my daughter could sit next to me, but there may be urgent reasons why people are travelling with limited options and separation might occur.
I have no desire to be any more of a burden on society than I already am. You should see the looks of disgust as I get to my seat, after being delayed using the AmbuLift because no-one came to operate it. Really makes a great start to your holiday |
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"I pay for specific seats so no I wouldn’t swap.
Nora won't swap?
Now there's a novelty
Having your child in front of you isn’t exactly far away. If they’re really young they’d be with you anyway so no I don’t think I would.
How young is really young? Airlines make you pay for a seat for children over 2yrs old and there's no mechanism to guarantee there will be two seats next to each other left at the point you book. I've already explained earlier in the thread that I am prohibited from booking the vast majority of seats (extra legroom, over wing, aisle, next to emergency exit). If there's no middle seat next to a window seat right at the back, I'd be forced to book my 5yo into a completely different area of the plane, if we travelled together. My child would more than likely be fine, because my disability status has forced her to become very independent, but not all children of disabled parents would be so independent.
And the responsibility for her during the flight would be thrust upon the adults she was sharing her row with. Now, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest as I love children, but someone might not be too pleased about babysitting someone else's child.
I'd ask the parent/carer what the child was allowed from the trolley and have a little pre-holiday plane party.
If I travelled on an aeroplane with my daughter and not with Mr KC, I'd need to ask staff to do things like help her to get into the loo because I wouldn't be able to do it myself. I can't even get myself into my seat.
In reality, I wouldn't book unless my daughter could sit next to me, but there may be urgent reasons why people are travelling with limited options and separation might occur.
I have no desire to be any more of a burden on society than I already am. You should see the looks of disgust as I get to my seat, after being delayed using the AmbuLift because no-one came to operate it. Really makes a great start to your holiday "
You are no burden on society..
Society should mean looking after our fellow citizens...
Do you annoy Tom ?.Yes
But you are not a burden on society.. |
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"That means I can only choose WINDOW cheap seats at the back. Not middle or aisle. At least I'll get a window seat view while we plummet to Earth, eh?! "
At least whilst plummeting to earth you can be smug in the fact that the rear of the aircraft is the safest place to be with just a 28% fatality rate - & those losers in the middle third are in the worst place to be..... |
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" I have no desire to be any more of a burden on society than I already am. You should see the looks of disgust as I get to my seat, after being delayed using the AmbuLift because no-one came to operate it. Really makes a great start to your holiday
You are no burden on society..
Society should mean looking after our fellow citizens...
Do you annoy Tom ?.Yes
But you are not a burden on society.."
Tom, I don't know what to say. Thank you.
I have to say, it's hard not to feel like a burden when you spend so much time asking for help/adaptation to things. |
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Lady should speak to whoever is sat next to her daughter and swap. That person gets leg room for free Lady gets to sit next to her daughter. Everyone is a winner. |
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"A few years ago I was sat next to a child on a plane and was asked to move so her father could sit with her. Her mother and other daughter were in the row behind. I said no problem and moved to a worse seat that the father originally had....
Shortly after takeoff the stewardess came round and said the father didn't like the seat and wanted to move back to his original one.
I was left with his irate wife behind me and his daughter next to me for a 10 hour flight.....
What happened after that ?"
To be fair, the wife calmed down fairly quickly and the daughter was actually good as gold so it worked out fine. I did see the wife giving the husband a well deserved shouting at in the airport once we'd landed..... |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"When OP says "it's all over the news", I'm more curious as to what news channel is ignoring the creeping onset of world war 3 in order to give airtime to such material?"
Well does anyone want 24 hour coverage of a war. There are other stories too. |
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"When OP says "it's all over the news", I'm more curious as to what news channel is ignoring the creeping onset of world war 3 in order to give airtime to such material?
Well does anyone want 24 hour coverage of a war. There are other stories too. "
Fair enough. You don't want to admit that you consider Facebook a news outlet.... |
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