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Are you really intelligent or really confident?
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I admire intelligence, I'd like to be extremely so.
I see the struggles that people with little confidence have and wouldn't want to be like that.
On balance I choose confidence but the confidence to read books and learn  |
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over a year ago
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Being intelligent can be a curse. Tend to over think.
Personally I’d choose being very confident. Confidence is like that magic ingredient that you just can’t explain… so yeah. X |
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By *lynJMan
over a year ago
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I'll take intelligence over confidence thanks.
I've found confidence evolves over time. I'm a lot more confident now than I was in my twenties. Now I give less of a sh*t about what people think of me. |
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"I'll take intelligence over confidence thanks.
I've found confidence evolves over time. I'm a lot more confident now than I was in my twenties. Now I give less of a sh*t about what people think of me."
Me too but that's mainly because I realised pretty early on that other people rarely think about you, they're mostly thinking about themselves  |
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Without wanting to come across as arrogant, I have intelligence and intellect in abundance (first degree is physics, master in engineering both from Russel Grp university and fellow of one professional body, chartered member of another 2). The downside that comes with that is it’s sometimes hard to find common ground with people who have different interests or levels of intellectual curiosity. A lot of people with high levels of intelligence also sit somewhere on the ASD.
I think I would rather have confidence and a decent level of intelligence than be super bright and socially akward. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My experience is that someone that is really confident is gonna have a happier life
As the saying goes
I hope my children are born incredibly attractive and incredibly stupid "
I like the thinking. I think confident people do tend to be constantly happy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Life teaches both , if you are confident you can be seen by some as arrogant ( who cares tbh ) if you are intelligent you can be seen by some as a know it all ( who cares tbh ) but if l were to choose one of your options l would choose intelligence because over time it flows into confidence, you feel you are intelligent enough so your confidence grows , you maybe confident but you may never be intelligent enough so for me intelligence  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I admire intelligence, I'd like to be extremely so.
I see the struggles that people with little confidence have and wouldn't want to be like that.
On balance I choose confidence but the confidence to read books and learn "
Full marks. You’ve done me with this one. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’m confident about my intelligence 
I am too slow however "
Interesting. I’ll give you both an B. Would’ve been an A but I feel that being confident in your intelligence doesn’t make you intelligent, just confident? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Being intelligent can be a curse. Tend to over think.
Personally I’d choose being very confident. Confidence is like that magic ingredient that you just can’t explain… so yeah. X "
Agree. Great working out. A  |
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Confidence is what we struggle with personally but work to improve and soon gain as we get to know people.
Almost like I need to know they are happy with me and my actions to make that move.
Intelligence comes in many forms the trick is using if in a fun witty and to boost the communication with new people.
I could be the next Einstein yet nobody would like me it’s a balance to get noticed.
Hubs. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'll take intelligence over confidence thanks.
I've found confidence evolves over time. I'm a lot more confident now than I was in my twenties. Now I give less of a sh*t about what people think of me."
I like intelligence over confidence. In this scenario you can never be both but I think intelligence is not the wrong answer. B |
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over a year ago
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"I'll take confidence as it's given me the ability to learn new skills over the last year. I'm proud of that x"
A. Good use of real life examples. Confident and skilled. Very valuable. |
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over a year ago
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"I'll take confidence as it's given me the ability to learn new skills over the last year. I'm proud of that x
A. Good use of real life examples. Confident and skilled. Very valuable. "
Which in turn got me a new job |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Without wanting to come across as arrogant, I have intelligence and intellect in abundance (first degree is physics, master in engineering both from Russel Grp university and fellow of one professional body, chartered member of another 2). The downside that comes with that is it’s sometimes hard to find common ground with people who have different interests or levels of intellectual curiosity. A lot of people with high levels of intelligence also sit somewhere on the ASD.
I think I would rather have confidence and a decent level of intelligence than be super bright and socially akward. "
Good answer. Full marks for good working out. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Very intelligence and confident high
IQ.
But also dyslexic .and like everyone
Else can be stupid"
I’m thick as shit. I am considering trying intelligence out |
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over a year ago
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"Confidence is what we struggle with personally but work to improve and soon gain as we get to know people.
Almost like I need to know they are happy with me and my actions to make that move.
Intelligence comes in many forms the trick is using if in a fun witty and to boost the communication with new people.
I could be the next Einstein yet nobody would like me it’s a balance to get noticed.
Hubs. "
Thought provoking. I like you, Hubs, so it’s full marks from me. |
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I'd rather have confidence. That sort of blind confidence where I can stride through each day secure in the belief that everything will work out just fine and dandy because I'll be able to sort out anything that happens. |
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"My experience is that someone that is really confident is gonna have a happier life
As the saying goes
I hope my children are born incredibly attractive and incredibly stupid "
Nice Great Gatsby reference. |
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over a year ago
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"I'll take confidence as it's given me the ability to learn new skills over the last year. I'm proud of that x
A. Good use of real life examples. Confident and skilled. Very valuable.
Which in turn got me a new job "
Congratulations. Go you!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'll take confidence as it's given me the ability to learn new skills over the last year. I'm proud of that x
A. Good use of real life examples. Confident and skilled. Very valuable.
Which in turn got me a new job
Congratulations. Go you!! "
Thank you x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm confident enough in myself and my abilities. I have the intelligence I need to fulfill my roles x"
Sparkle, your confidence is a good quality. Don’t lose it.
Good working out, needed a clearer conclusion. B+ |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'd take intelligence over confidence anyday
If you know what your talking about then confidence will naturally shine through "
Good point. Better to be right than wrong and strong |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm confident in my job almost cocky some might say iv no intelligence lol x "
We’ve got some going spare. You’ve got plenty already though. Know that. X |
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over a year ago
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"My experience is that someone that is really confident is gonna have a happier life
As the saying goes
I hope my children are born incredibly attractive and incredibly stupid
Nice Great Gatsby reference."
I also thought of the beautiful little fool quote. But many intelligent men and women are *that* type of fool that Daisy wishes for her daughter to be. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm choosing intelligence every time. Confidence and stupidity is a very annoying trait. Remember Brexit and antivaxers."
They’re hard things to forget. I give this full marks for the answer backed up with good examples. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Confidence to drive me through things
It certainly takes you places. Also, intelligent people with cats also get places.  couldn’t resist"
Cars.* Damn |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I enjoy blagging my way thru life less confident more cocky little rascal as for brains i think iv got one somewhere i feel it rattling when i shake my head |
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"I'm choosing intelligence every time. Confidence and stupidity is a very annoying trait. Remember Brexit and antivaxers.
They’re hard things to forget. I give this full marks for the answer backed up with good examples. "
Yes, but confidence does not always come with stupidity! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'd rather have confidence. That sort of blind confidence where I can stride through each day secure in the belief that everything will work out just fine and dandy because I'll be able to sort out anything that happens."
Oh. That confidence of a mediocre… .
I’d love that too.
One of the best answers so far. Unsurprisingly I’m giving you full marks but I’m disappointed I didn’t get to spank. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intelligence every time
Over confidence can lead you into lots of trouble
Intelligence informs you when it is best to run away. !  "
Better to be safe than sorry!
This is an A. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm choosing intelligence every time. Confidence and stupidity is a very annoying trait. Remember Brexit and antivaxers.
They’re hard things to forget. I give this full marks for the answer backed up with good examples.
Yes, but confidence does not always come with stupidity! "
True. I guess I’m perhaps guilty of misinterpreting my question. We only know that you’re either really confident or really intelligent. Not that you’re not intelligent or confident at all. Drat. FULL MARKS TOO ALL. Except the cheaters. They’re still getting spanked. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I enjoy blagging my way thru life less confident more cocky little rascal as for brains i think iv got one somewhere i feel it rattling when i shake my head"
. Creative. A |
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"My experience is that someone that is really confident is gonna have a happier life
As the saying goes
I hope my children are born incredibly attractive and incredibly stupid
I like the thinking. I think confident people do tend to be constantly happy. "
Too dumb to worry about life’s problems
Too attractive to be effected by them anyways
It’s the perfect combo
And it only seems to be becoming more and more true in todays day. |
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Confidence all day.
It gives you that edge to approach people, ask questions, ability to take that step and make necessary changes when you need to. All of that adds to the everyday learning about others, the world and life. |
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The common misconception is that brexit was only supported by the ignorant, St George’s flag waving white van men who are neo nazis anyway. It’s easy to mistake an opinion you don’t agree with with a lack of intellectual acumen in the person who holds the opinion you disagree with.
I would have disagreed with my dying breath with a lot of people in recent history but would have accepted and appreciated the precision of their argument even if I had thought their analysis and conclusions were flawed.
Sadly what we have got to is poorly thought out arguments and the shouting down of anyone with whom you have a disagreement to the point of bullying and intimidation masquerading as “confidence” (in the same way we now conflate fear with respect). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.  "
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Intelligence is worthless unless you have the confidence to use it. "
Have just c read through this and I think I'm with you on this one. Besides, I know plenty of people who aren't intelligent but have enough confidence to believe they are and it seems to work just fine for them.
Where does knowing you're nowhere near as intelligent as you'd like to be fall? Is that not intelligent or not confident?
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"Intelligence is worthless unless you have the confidence to use it.
Upon your enemies or your friends?"
Say I'm intelligent but if I don't have confidence in my work. I may be able to design a new treatment for example, but what use is that intelligence if I haven't the confidence to share that knowledge? And make it into a reality. |
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"Intelligence is worthless unless you have the confidence to use it.
Have just c read through this and I think I'm with you on this one. Besides, I know plenty of people who aren't intelligent but have enough confidence to believe they are and it seems to work just fine for them.
Where does knowing you're nowhere near as intelligent as you'd like to be fall? Is that not intelligent or not confident?
Mr"
I'm nowhere near as intelligent as I want to be. God damn meeting some absolute world leaders in my field. But I also know I'm more intelligent than average. Intelligence is a strange thing, my best mate will tell everyone I'm the most intelligent person she knows. Which on paper is true, it's all subjective though. |
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"I'm choosing intelligence every time. Confidence and stupidity is a very annoying trait. Remember Brexit and antivaxers.
They’re hard things to forget. I give this full marks for the answer backed up with good examples.
Yes, but confidence does not always come with stupidity! "
Of course not. I was referring to when it does. When you try having a rational arguement with people who are just so sure they are right when they cannot present a single fact, you feel like being your head against the nearest brick wall. This sort of confidence is without merit as it's baseless. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I can do well in tests (and Wordle and Worldle), but navigating life and people is an entirely different matter. "
Would you like to order some confidence? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm always over thinking and have little confidence.
So for once I'd like to free my brain, and be confident just to go for what I want and have fun doing so. "
I hear you! Confidence would be wonderful. I’ll order you a big bottle. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Confidence all day.
It gives you that edge to approach people, ask questions, ability to take that step and make necessary changes when you need to. All of that adds to the everyday learning about others, the world and life. "
Full marks. Just brilliant and clear working out shown. Disappointed because I wanted to spank you but maybe I will as a reward and not punishment. Good girl. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Only one answer as deffo not intelligent! But am super confident! I mean I'm not thick!lol I only went to school for the social life x"
The social side of school is one of the most important parts of education that we get! xx |
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over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post?"
It’s true- you’re not. What do you say to 100 lines - ‘I will be sweeter in the forums’? In my box by the end of the day please. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intelligent I think"
I don’t know if this was intentionally witty. I will assume it was and so it’s an full marks from me even without working out. Brilliant use of the ‘I think’ to highlight the lack of confidence from not choosing to be really confident. A* |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'll have the intelligence please.
No use being confident at my age, with my body
A*. Bad Nanna, you’re a good girl.
I'm very, very good "
Rewards for you!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intelligence is worthless unless you have the confidence to use it.
Have just c read through this and I think I'm with you on this one. Besides, I know plenty of people who aren't intelligent but have enough confidence to believe they are and it seems to work just fine for them.
Where does knowing you're nowhere near as intelligent as you'd like to be fall? Is that not intelligent or not confident?
Mr"
Ooft good question. The more we learn, the less we realise we know. I think someone who chose intelligent might choose this. Hmmm.
Anyway full marks Mr! A* |
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over a year ago
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"I’m confident about my intelligence, but not very intelligent when it comes to confidence. Work that out. True story bro. "
My head hurts. So full marks. A*. You defeated me |
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over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I thrive on the cognitive.
I would hope to use my intelligence to humbly seek guidance and support from others to build my confidence."
Always the smartest in the room, Nero! Full marks.
See you in mass on Sunday? |
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over a year ago
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"Really intelligent definitely. I'm clever enough to wish I was cleverer.
I envied the kids at school who were clever enough to be able to do any career they wished"
It’s true that all that we know is that we know nothing! Or something like that. I like your reasoning. Full marks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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You’re all gorgeous. You don’t need my magic bottles of confidence or intelligence but if you want some anyway, meet me by the bins and I’ll sort you out.
Enjoy your weekend! No homework!!! |
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over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post?
It’s true- you’re not. What do you say to 100 lines - ‘I will be sweeter in the forums’? In my box by the end of the day please. "
What do I say? What do you think? |
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over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post?
It’s true- you’re not. What do you say to 100 lines - ‘I will be sweeter in the forums’? In my box by the end of the day please.
What do I say? What do you think? "
No- ruler.
Yes- happy me.
No pressure- think about it. |
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post?
It’s true- you’re not. What do you say to 100 lines - ‘I will be sweeter in the forums’? In my box by the end of the day please.
What do I say? What do you think?
No- ruler.
Yes- happy me.
No pressure- think about it. "
Nope |
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By *lynJMan
over a year ago
Morden |
"I'll take intelligence over confidence thanks.
I've found confidence evolves over time. I'm a lot more confident now than I was in my twenties. Now I give less of a sh*t about what people think of me.
I like intelligence over confidence. In this scenario you can never be both but I think intelligence is not the wrong answer. B "
If intelligence is not the wrong answer (i.e. it's the right answer) why only a B?  |
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over a year ago
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"Intelligence. I want to understand the world more than I want to rule it
Full marks. Short and sweet like you. Good girl.
Um. I'm not very sweet. Haven't you seen me post?
It’s true- you’re not. What do you say to 100 lines - ‘I will be sweeter in the forums’? In my box by the end of the day please.
What do I say? What do you think?
No- ruler.
Yes- happy me.
No pressure- think about it.
Nope "
Hoped you’d say that. |
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Confidence maybe attractive at first in the same way great packaging design is on a shop shelf. But not every product meets up to promise of the packaging. If it does great. But I'd rather have a quality product within than product that is disappointing after the promise of the packaging. And for me intelligence is something I value.
I would always chose my intelligence and I'm happy being a dark horse. Plus there is something more of value when you meet someone who has taken the time to dig a bit and values what they find beneath the first impressions or social awkwardness. There are of course different types of confidence, some loud, some quiet and you can be confident and intelligent or confident and thick as mince. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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I'm high intelligence (STEM, elite game programmer), and pretty well informed of global politics, history, geography, human anthropology and different cultures. Although my confidence defaults to super low until I'm doing something or interacting with people, then I can get very high confidence. Childhood trauma, my parents to put it bluntly are pretty simple folk and 200% wrong & strong, disagreeable, control-freak types. So I'll regress to this childhood state until I'm interacting with other 'normal' humans that remind me that I'm not a loser - Lockdown was an eye-opener for me and all of my siblings... Therapy
Confidence will motivate you to do things, learn new things and socialise well. Too much confidence will make you complacent and unable to learn from others as you believe you're always right. Too little and you lose your sense of self worth. The extreme ends will kill you. I guess the same applies to intelligence.
It's a tough one. I would be tempted to take confidence, but then it's hard to imagine how difficult life would be if the majority of my interactions were with people smarter than me. I'd probably just p*** off everyone. |
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"You can only be one. Which would you rather be?
Please show your working out or full marks cannot be awarded.
Nb: cheaters will be spanked today. "
I'd choose neither, because both are derivatives of the trait I would choose, which is independence.
My "working out" is as follows.
Independence nurtures the individual and propels them to find solutions to achieve their aims and goals, fostering self-reliance. This in turn grows their level of confidence. The overall process is an educative one and it's not unreasonable to expect new skills and knowledge will be learned in the process. Whether you define that as "intelligence" is another matter, because the way we classify intelligence is extremely subjective in the formal sense.
I do believe however that independence is at the heart of "intelligence" and "confidence".
Apex creatures possess all 3 traits, but I conjecture that "independence" or self-reliance is the strongest trait, which informs the other two.
In the case of humans, it's "persistence hunting" which makes us excel, and whilst intelligence and confidence are incredibly important in that endeavour, persistence needs independence and self-reliance and self-regulation to support it.
Gosh, what a fascinating discussion.
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"I'll take intelligence over confidence thanks.
I've found confidence evolves over time. I'm a lot more confident now than I was in my twenties. Now I give less of a sh*t about what people think of me.
Me too but that's mainly because I realised pretty early on that other people rarely think about you, they're mostly thinking about themselves "
Well put, I agree |
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Intelligent. Over think things. See other people's point of view. Extrapolate their sexual preferences and anticipate that they won't include me. Regard myself as either (a) lacking the confidence to push myself forwards sexually when I know I won't be successful, or (b) being realistic in my expectations that the women I'm attracted to won't be attracted to me.
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"I admire intelligence, I'd like to be extremely so.
I see the struggles that people with little confidence have and wouldn't want to be like that.
On balance I choose confidence but the confidence to read books and learn "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Probably more confidence. I like to think myself comparatively intelligent, not necessarily academic,but with added confidence I can BS what I don't know or hammer a point in.
And don't they say Women like a bit of confidence? |
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Hmm, i dont neccessarily feel i have either to be honest. But if its what would i like to have, then definitely more confidence please. So many things i have missed out on because im too shy or scared to go for it. X |
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Intelligence every time. Confidence may get more instant success but that success is basically a product of good advertising. I'd much prefer to be with someone who has done a little _igging and wants to be with me because of my mind rather than sucked in by a superficial facade.
Obviously that opinion is based on viewing the two as extremes and mutually exclusive (I think in the spirt of the thread). But the reality we can be various mixtures of both. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Intelligence is taught
Confidence is only something you can develop.
In my line of work I would be considered rather intelligent and I think confidence when it comes to certain things comes with intelligence.
Something I wouldn’t have a clue about so naturally not as confident but you learn should you want too.
Very fine like between confident and arrogance. Better to appear less confident then arrogant.
Now where did I put that self help book! |
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"You can only be one. Which would you rather be?
Please show your working out or full marks cannot be awarded.
Nb: cheaters will be spanked today.
I'd choose neither, because both are derivatives of the trait I would choose, which is independence.
My "working out" is as follows.
Independence nurtures the individual and propels them to find solutions to achieve their aims and goals, fostering self-reliance. This in turn grows their level of confidence. The overall process is an educative one and it's not unreasonable to expect new skills and knowledge will be learned in the process. Whether you define that as "intelligence" is another matter, because the way we classify intelligence is extremely subjective in the formal sense.
I do believe however that independence is at the heart of "intelligence" and "confidence".
Apex creatures possess all 3 traits, but I conjecture that "independence" or self-reliance is the strongest trait, which informs the other two.
In the case of humans, it's "persistence hunting" which makes us excel, and whilst intelligence and confidence are incredibly important in that endeavour, persistence needs independence and self-reliance and self-regulation to support it.
Gosh, what a fascinating discussion.
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Im confident way beyond my looks - somehow i get by that way - and intelligence? Probably average - i learn what i need to know and have the capacity to learn - i think confidence has got me further in life than intelligence so on balance I’d opt for confidence over intelligence - too much of either can be a bad thing I think. |
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