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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo? |
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
i have know many high class people to have tattoos |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
my doctor could have a massive back piece for all i know |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it was a totally random selection of people with tattoo's. None of them were chosen purely for entertainment value.
Only chavs have tattoo's. I read it in the Daily Sport so it's a true fact. |
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I haven't seen that many barristers or doctors naked, so I can't judge on their tattoo history. JFK had a tattoo when he was in the US Navy. He had it removed because it wasn't 'presidential' but I think it was an anchor on his chest or somesuch, and therefore not generally visible.
I don't see your point either.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To be honest ive never seen a GP with a tattoo on show but ive seen a fair few A&E doctors with them as they seem to be of a younger generation
Ive also seen a fair few police officers with them of late |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it was a totally random selection of people with tattoo's. None of them were chosen purely for entertainment value.
Only chavs have tattoo's. I read it in the Daily Sport so it's a true fact. "
I must be a Chav then lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it was a totally random selection of people with tattoo's. None of them were chosen purely for entertainment value.
Only chavs have tattoo's. I read it in the Daily Sport so it's a true fact. "
i was told tattoos was a form of self harming so that must be true too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it was a totally random selection of people with tattoo's. None of them were chosen purely for entertainment value.
Only chavs have tattoo's. I read it in the Daily Sport so it's a true fact.
I must be a Chav then lol "
well, we didnt like to say |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lol i must be in the lower social class then i have tatts xx
Don't worry... only those who kneel to rim someone are bottom-feeding low lifes
Wolf
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hahahahah love it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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r u sure its crayons ,,cud b marker pens lol,,,,,bloody costly pens they r ,,,,i have tattoos i im deffo not a chaff thanx ,,, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Upper.. Lower.. Middle.. If the Art is great.. Then its recognised.
What if it looks like it's been drawn on with a crayon? "
Hmmmm.. i wouldnt want to insult
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i think you can tell the class of the person by the standard of their tattoo's
If someone is covered in shit thats been done by their mates brother who bought a tattoo kit of ebay and charges a tenner a tattoo that looks like something a 10 year old has drawn they usually of a lower status/income person
if however they go to a decent shop and have good/professional pieces done and pay substantial money for a good job they usually of a better standard of living person
its ok i have my bullet proof vest on you can all shoot me down now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lol i must be in the lower social class then i have tatts xx
Don't worry... only those who kneel to rim someone are bottom-feeding low lifes
Wolf
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Well i defo dont do that lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lol i must be in the lower social class then i have tatts xx
Don't worry... only those who kneel to rim someone are bottom-feeding low lifes
Wolf
Well i defo dont do that lol "
i have been known too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i think you can tell the class of the person by the standard of their tattoo's
If someone is covered in shit thats been done by their mates brother who bought a tattoo kit of ebay and charges a tenner a tattoo that looks like something a 10 year old has drawn they usually of a lower status/income person
if however they go to a decent shop and have good/professional pieces done and pay substantial money for a good job they usually of a better standard of living person
its ok i have my bullet proof vest on you can all shoot me down now "
All of mine cost more than a tenner, and all were done at an actual tattoo shop.
I have one that's got loads of colour and it's about 5" square. Cost me over £20... not cheap! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I must be on benefits and appearing on jezza as I have tatts... However I aint.. I am in a high demand job.. "
A binman is in a high demand job. So is the kid behind the till at McDonald's.
You sure it's not a highly demanding job you're in? |
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By *orkieMan
over a year ago
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded. Gone are the days when tattoos were the preserve of seafarers or villains. Body art is mainstream now and in some cultures is a right of passage eg Maori.
Also think about Japan where the Yakuza (japanese mafia) who outwardly present the image of respectable businessmen often have a tattoo bodysuit under the clothes.
Wonder for example if Dame Helen Mirren is aware that she is lower class because of the tattoo she has on her hand. I would like to be as lower class as Cheryl Cole who has tattoos and pots of money
Yeah I am actually watching a recording of the programme in question now. Maybe the people who star in the programme are all what you would call 'lower class" but who are you to judge.
Closer to home, my kids have tattoos, some I have paid for, they are all graduates or of graduate calibre, personally as a person with a degree level education running a successful company I have several items of body art which can be seen or covered up according to my mood or clothing..... Now excuse me as I need to have a drink from my bottle of White Lightning to wash my Pot Noodle down ... must be the munchies after my spliff... ooops thats my lower classness coming out |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?
Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded. Gone are the days when tattoos were the preserve of seafarers or villains. Body art is mainstream now and in some cultures is a right of passage eg Maori.
Also think about Japan where the Yakuza (japanese mafia) who outwardly present the image of respectable businessmen often have a tattoo bodysuit under the clothes.
Wonder for example if Dame Helen Mirren is aware that she is lower class because of the tattoo she has on her hand. I would like to be as lower class as Cheryl Cole who has tattoos and pots of money
Yeah I am actually watching a recording of the programme in question now. Maybe the people who star in the programme are all what you would call 'lower class" but who are you to judge.
Closer to home, my kids have tattoos, some I have paid for, they are all graduates or of graduate calibre, personally as a person with a degree level education running a successful company I have several items of body art which can be seen or covered up according to my mood or clothing..... Now excuse me as I need to have a drink from my bottle of White Lightning to wash my Pot Noodle down ... must be the munchies after my spliff... ooops thats my lower classness coming out"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one "
I did having my chest done lol.
I do have a few silly ones I had when I was a kid which I'm getting covered.
I had my first at 13 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one "
your both talking shit x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?
Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded. Gone are the days when tattoos were the preserve of seafarers or villains. Body art is mainstream now and in some cultures is a right of passage eg Maori.
Also think about Japan where the Yakuza (japanese mafia) who outwardly present the image of respectable businessmen often have a tattoo bodysuit under the clothes.
Wonder for example if Dame Helen Mirren is aware that she is lower class because of the tattoo she has on her hand. I would like to be as lower class as Cheryl Cole who has tattoos and pots of money
Yeah I am actually watching a recording of the programme in question now. Maybe the people who star in the programme are all what you would call 'lower class" but who are you to judge.
Closer to home, my kids have tattoos, some I have paid for, they are all graduates or of graduate calibre, personally as a person with a degree level education running a successful company I have several items of body art which can be seen or covered up according to my mood or clothing..... Now excuse me as I need to have a drink from my bottle of White Lightning to wash my Pot Noodle down ... must be the munchies after my spliff... ooops thats my lower classness coming out"
Narrow minded maybe but non the less the facts speak for themselves. People who get tattoos are more likley to be from a working class background. Ok as life progresses they may climb in social status and some choose to have them removed and others not but the fact is its more of a working class thing although many others from different social groups may have one too but its less common. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x"
Lol explain |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x
Lol explain "
They fooking hurt
spoken like a true lower classer |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x"
Most of mine hurt. When he was doing my foot he stupidly rested my foot in his lap. The pain made my foot jolt, I really REALLY wanted to kick him in the nuts!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x
Lol explain
They fooking hurt
spoken like a true lower classer "
Don't be a soft arse the pain Is good and part of the experience |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i think you can tell the class of the person by the standard of their tattoo's
If someone is covered in shit thats been done by their mates brother who bought a tattoo kit of ebay and charges a tenner a tattoo that looks like something a 10 year old has drawn they usually of a lower status/income person
if however they go to a decent shop and have good/professional pieces done and pay substantial money for a good job they usually of a better standard of living person
its ok i have my bullet proof vest on you can all shoot me down now "
I agree with this - there's the lov e and hate on knuckles type and various women or mens names over the body, made in britain tattooed across the forehead, that kind ocf thing, and there's works of art tattooed onto the body which look intricate and demand a level of skill to achieve.
I saw the programme tonight and it didn't show particularly great works of art and the people selected for the programme did seem to all be of a similar social upbringing which didn't come across as being professional.
I personally do know of several doctors and police officers who have tattoos, and a solicitor too in fact. Their tattoos are not visible to the public |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"the higher class are all to busy snorting cock to get a tattoo
Explain that to please
it was just a joke, dont all shoot me "
Did you type 'cock' on purpose?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x
Lol explain
They fooking hurt
spoken like a true lower classer
Don't be a soft arse the pain Is good and part of the experience "
depends where you have them, some places are more tolerable than other, try sitting with your arm above your head for over 2 hours while they do your under arm |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the higher class are all to busy snorting cock to get a tattoo
Explain that to please
it was just a joke, dont all shoot me
Did you type 'cock' on purpose?! "
haha my typos are class |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh well, 14 so far and designed my next 3.
I'll admit I'm addicted to them and the pain is enjoyable
Isn't it just!!! I nearly fell asleep half way through my last one
your both talking shit x
Lol explain
They fooking hurt
spoken like a true lower classer
Don't be a soft arse the pain Is good and part of the experience
depends where you have them, some places are more tolerable than other, try sitting with your arm above your head for over 2 hours while they do your under arm "
You have a tattoo in your armpit?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"[Removed by poster at 19/10/12 00:32:33]"
lol no, i have a sleeve on one arm so have the under arm done but had to sit with my arm in the air to have it, its very uncomfy and painful, more so when all the blood runs out your arm |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"[Removed by poster at 19/10/12 00:32:33]
lol no, i have a sleeve on one arm so have the under arm done but had to sit with my arm in the air to have it, its very uncomfy and painful, more so when all the blood runs out your arm"
My next one will be going round like that so ill let you no once I've had it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"[Removed by poster at 19/10/12 00:32:33]
lol no, i have a sleeve on one arm so have the under arm done but had to sit with my arm in the air to have it, its very uncomfy and painful, more so when all the blood runs out your arm"
He should have got you to lie down. Much more comfortable that way.
Now I'm wondering why my tattoo bloke was so kind to me lol. He always made sure I was comfy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm proper low class me!
13 tattoos and the scum of Britain
Am I bothered what other people think of me when I have them on show? Am I fook!
Lower class and PROUD "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a masseur I see a lot of bodies.
Believe me, tattoos are classless.
Their positions, however, aren't.
Professional people tend to have them in more discreet places that are not in _iew at work that's all!
I wouldn't want to see a doctor with ANTHRAX on his knuckles! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well we must be in the lower classes as both me snd hubby have them, and my don is a tattooist, so we must be of the untouchables, better find s rock to hide under |
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I don't personally like tattoos generally, and I know if I had one I'd regret it when everything sags
But each to his/her own. People have different motivations for getting tats, I certainly wouldn't want to label them 'lower class' because of it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't personally like tattoos generally, and I know if I had one I'd regret it when everything sags
But each to his/her own. People have different motivations for getting tats, I certainly wouldn't want to label them 'lower class' because of it.
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Hi richie, well said, the 3 I have are all symbolic to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As a masseur I see a lot of bodies.
Believe me, tattoos are classless.
Their positions, however, aren't.
Professional people tend to have them in more discreet places that are not in _iew at work that's all!
I wouldn't want to see a doctor with ANTHRAX on his knuckles! "
I have c*unt and arse on my knuckles. So I don't get mixed up when I'm fisting. |
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"As a masseur I see a lot of bodies.
Believe me, tattoos are classless.
Their positions, however, aren't.
Professional people tend to have them in more discreet places that are not in _iew at work that's all!
I wouldn't want to see a doctor with ANTHRAX on his knuckles!
I have c*unt and arse on my knuckles. So I don't get mixed up when I'm fisting. "
OMG thats the best thing I've heard all year, literally PMSL here! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So you saying alot in the pop and music world are a lower class ? no Its about Art tattoos and expressing yourself .Docs alot may have them just thy cover up alot .I have a friend whos top London barrister and have 5 , But not on his hands or neck or face. |
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"As a masseur I see a lot of bodies.
Believe me, tattoos are classless.
Their positions, however, aren't.
Professional people tend to have them in more discreet places that are not in _iew at work that's all!
I wouldn't want to see a doctor with ANTHRAX on his knuckles!
I have c*unt and arse on my knuckles. So I don't get mixed up when I'm fisting. "
This has to be the quote of the thread |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have both sleeves, my chest, a leg and my back done. I come from a middle class background and have a demanding professional career.
Mine are all covered with a shirt if I so desire, but I actually get a lot of compliments about them, both from people I work with and patients.
It's a form of artistic self expression nowadays, not the mark of a criminal or salty sea dog. But, sadly, labels have a tendency to stick... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It should of been called
My Naff Tattoo Addiction
How did that find the cash for the tattoos
And that young girl with the kittens on here back .. Well shes special lol |
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded. "
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It should of been called
My Naff Tattoo Addiction
How did that find the cash for the tattoos
And that young girl with the kittens on here back .. Well shes special lol"
I have to agree with you there. The show certainly highlighted some extreme examples and painted tattoos in a generally bad way rather than celebrating the art that can be involved.
Google the work of Guy Aichison of Hyperspace Studios or Horyishi III to see what the show should have focused on.
Instead they picked a bunch on brainless morons who made some poor choices. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
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I didn't find the opening statement narrow minded and they may have a valid comment.
As you quite rightly say though Polo, the boundaries are becoming blurred by the generation and popular culture.
What stood out for me was the way the OPS comments were worded.
Maybe it is a case of things not translating too well into words, or maybe the statement was made provocatively, but I did sense an air of sneering towards both tattoo wearers and people the OP believes to be of a lower social class.
I think that, more than the narrow mindedness, probably prompted the kickback from the contributors so far. |
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
I didn't find the opening statement narrow minded and they may have a valid comment.
As you quite rightly say though Polo, the boundaries are becoming blurred by the generation and popular culture.
What stood out for me was the way the OPS comments were worded.
Maybe it is a case of things not translating too well into words, or maybe the statement was made provocatively, but I did sense an air of sneering towards both tattoo wearers and people the OP believes to be of a lower social class.
I think that, more than the narrow mindedness, probably prompted the kickback from the contributors so far."
I have read it several times now and I am just not seeing the snearing.
"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October."
They watched the telly....
"Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes."
I assume that is their observation from watching the telly....
"When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
That is a question. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm certainly not from a lower social class, and iv got a few tats with the intention of getting some more.
Don't think you will get many nice comments on this forum status do you?.
I could say “what leads to the imagination when you have a full on naked picture as your profile, if you was more of a lady then you would have some sort of clothing on..even if it is just a bra and knickers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
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In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
I didn't find the opening statement narrow minded and they may have a valid comment.
As you quite rightly say though Polo, the boundaries are becoming blurred by the generation and popular culture.
What stood out for me was the way the OPS comments were worded.
Maybe it is a case of things not translating too well into words, or maybe the statement was made provocatively, but I did sense an air of sneering towards both tattoo wearers and people the OP believes to be of a lower social class.
I think that, more than the narrow mindedness, probably prompted the kickback from the contributors so far.
I have read it several times now and I am just not seeing the snearing.
"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October."
They watched the telly....
"Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes."
I assume that is their observation from watching the telly....
"When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
That is a question."
I think often what happens is if someone is planning a career rather than taking up a job or even not looking to work they plan ahead. You could almost say the more intelligent someone is and the more forethought they have regarding their future the less likley they are to have visible tattoos. Obviously this doesn't explain why everyone has tattoos or doesn't but its a contributing factor. |
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By *udiguyMan
over a year ago
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".....but the op is obviously a small minded idiot.... odd for a swinger dont u think??
It's odd that.... as I would consider a small minded idiot as being someone who will judge and insult a person's whole character based on one comment.... rather than just concluding the 'comment' as the negative.
really
.. ? i feel someone who watches a tv show.. obviously aimed at knocking an ancient art form that pre dates christianity . and then feels the need to comment on the internet .... without adding " how unfair that programe was to the true artists and tattoo collecters" ... is small minded ! .. and the barister/doctor comment! reeks of snobbery
Funny ol' world hey."
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!! "
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By *udiguyMan
over a year ago
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!! "
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!!
That was good for you at this time of the morning.... "
I know.
I'm a graduate in a good job, well versed in common sense and an ability to interact with those from all walks of life - and yet I still managed to cane a bottle of Russian Standard whilst chatting to you perverted lot last night!
You're a bad, bad, influence Fab. Seriously bad at times! Pass the fucking ibroprofen! |
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!!
That was good for you at this time of the morning....
I know.
I'm a graduate in a good job, well versed in common sense and an ability to interact with those from all walks of life - and yet I still managed to cane a bottle of Russian Standard whilst chatting to you perverted lot last night!
You're a bad, bad, influence Fab. Seriously bad at times! Pass the fucking ibroprofen! "
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
I didn't find the opening statement narrow minded and they may have a valid comment.
As you quite rightly say though Polo, the boundaries are becoming blurred by the generation and popular culture.
What stood out for me was the way the OPS comments were worded.
Maybe it is a case of things not translating too well into words, or maybe the statement was made provocatively, but I did sense an air of sneering towards both tattoo wearers and people the OP believes to be of a lower social class.
I think that, more than the narrow mindedness, probably prompted the kickback from the contributors so far.
I have read it several times now and I am just not seeing the snearing.
"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October."
They watched the telly....
"Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes."
I assume that is their observation from watching the telly....
"When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
That is a question."
I hear what you're saying Polo but I remain unconvinced.
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
In a word - bollocks!
10 or maybe 20 years ago, maybe.
But the current culture of following the 'fashion' of sportsmen, music artists, actors/actresses and celebs in general crosses all social classes.
Walk in to any university today and you'll see as many students from council estates with full sleeves as those from Eton and Harrow. I have 5 - and not taking it personally by any stretch of the imagination - i'm as far from what most would describe as 'lower class' as any - yet I interact with those from a variety of backgounds in both my work and social life. I've met those on the dole with more than a bucketful of ink, MD's on six figure salaries who've spotted a sneaky bit of ink peeking out of my sleeve on a hot summer's day who've complimented me and virtually stripped there and then to show me their pride and joy! I've seen doctors show me theirs whilst i've been waiting for an op, policeman with now acceptable visible tats coming to the aid of car crash victims, accountants who I personally think are dull as fuck queuing in a tattoo parlour to get work done and I know on an intimate basis 3 barristers who if they stripped in court would sway the jury in any direction they felt they wanted!
And I won't even start on the number of millionaire sportsmen i've shared a beer and a tat comparison session with - but of course they all rose from the gutter so they don't count!
Ink is - and thank god - now a classless method of self expression and body modification. I watched 5 minutes of the programme and switched off. Yet again people watch something like that and get 'hypnotized' into believing all that they see!
I'll let you into a little secret - despite what you see on Hollyoaks - everyone in Chester isn't actually that good looking!!!
That was good for you at this time of the morning....
I know.
I'm a graduate in a good job, well versed in common sense and an ability to interact with those from all walks of life - and yet I still managed to cane a bottle of Russian Standard whilst chatting to you perverted lot last night!
You're a bad, bad, influence Fab. Seriously bad at times! Pass the fucking ibroprofen!
and you typed all that with a hangover ?
i'm impressed !"
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"I think it was a totally random selection of people with tattoo's. None of them were chosen purely for entertainment value.
Only chavs have tattoo's. I read it in the Daily Sport so it's a true fact.
i was told tattoos was a form of self harming so that must be true too "
As 99.9% of people who have tattoos didn't tattoo themselves I fail to see how it can be classed as SELF harming.
Tattoos are tribal and ritualistic and warriors used to paint their bodies before going into battle to look more firece to their opponents. Tribes used tattoos are a way of differentiating their own tribe members from members of another tribe. You only have to look at gang 'colours' to see this form of modification and being a gang member usually involves having a tattoo that is unique to that gang.
In the main, tattoos are nothing more than expressive body art - some of them are done very well with intricate patterns and colouring, and others look like they been done by Stevie Wonder. |
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In a word - bollocks!
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You may indeed have a pair and quite possibly have used them to type your reply.
However, as I do not deny people from all classes may sport the ink and use the word 'prevalent' and the phrase 'more frequently sported' ........ I fail to see how your reply demonstrates my post as being the equivalent to your dangly sad sacks. |
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By *orkieMan
over a year ago
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Think the OP is being very very very narrow minded.
I don't.
As it stands, tattoos are more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.
This may be changing and the lines of predominance blurring, certainly amongst younger people… but the fact of what the OP is saying is pretty much still the reality of our society as it stands today.
What may be considered more narrow minded is the arsey reaction of some to a simple observation that tattoos are indeed more frequently sported by the lower classes.
I didn't find the opening statement narrow minded and they may have a valid comment.
As you quite rightly say though Polo, the boundaries are becoming blurred by the generation and popular culture.
What stood out for me was the way the OPS comments were worded.
Maybe it is a case of things not translating too well into words, or maybe the statement was made provocatively, but I did sense an air of sneering towards both tattoo wearers and people the OP believes to be of a lower social class.
I think that, more than the narrow mindedness, probably prompted the kickback from the contributors so far.
I have read it several times now and I am just not seeing the snearing.
"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October."
They watched the telly....
"Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes."
I assume that is their observation from watching the telly....
"When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
That is a question."
Bussy has it in one, it was definitely sneering and even dissecting the post line by line does not detract from that.
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If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
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"If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
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cuz its cheaper to do so some of the best tatooists work off the highstreet |
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"If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
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Suppose we could say the same about betting shops, you seem to get more situated in the average high street than you do in upmarket high streets. |
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"If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
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That's a bit like saying that because there's a Primark on every high street that there isn't a designer boutique within half a mile!
And you'd be suprised who you'll see in Poundland too!
For every walk in "i'll have one of those Dave loves Tracey" tats that high street artists do to cover the utilities - any inker worth his salt will have a diary full of more interesting and individual work lined up. My artist of choice located themselves in an out of town business park after having a high street shop for several years - purely because by reputation they couldn't keep up with the workload and cope with constant walk in queries.
Like any business (and indeed profiles on Fab) you situate yourself where there is maximum visiblity and exposure - to ensure you are seen and explored by the highest percentage of your potential market - not just to appeal to the bread and butter mass market audience.
Hence you'll quite often find a posh jewellers, clothes store or delicatessen just down from the tattoo parlour! |
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"If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
Suppose we could say the same about betting shops, you seem to get more situated in the average high street than you do in upmarket high streets. "
Indeed you can (sort of)........ they go where the business it at... though no one is claiming gambling is a class related activity... but visiting a bookies generally is.
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over a year ago
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I watched the programme last night ...
The tattoo parlours or studios that were used were in poorer areas of the country so it stands to reason that the clientelle would be of a social grading akin to the surroundings.
Next time watch LA Ink, London Ink, Miami Ink or one of those programmes and you will see a different style of person, wealth and background in those ...
The programme HAD to feature on those who had more extreme tattoos and placement of them ... Who would have watched a regular mummy getting a butterfly on her hip ? The 'shock' value of seeing someone with scorpions on his face is why we watched...
There were some very strange tattoos shown - the website logo guy, Mylie Cyrus etc .. THATS what the programme makers wanted to convey - that some people have issues ...
I myself have two tattoos and have had for many years, most people dont know I have them. I will ask you to guess or comment on my social background and standing _______________ |
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Hence you'll quite often find a posh jewellers, clothes store or delicatessen just down from the tattoo parlour! "
I don't deny sometimes you will........... the ratio of those which are and those which aren't is far from equal. |
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"If we have indeed reached a true equilibrium of tattoos across the classes….. why do so many, in fact the majority of tattooists set up shop in working class and even ‘deprived’ areas?
Now please note the wording… I am sure there are some very exclusive tattooists operating in very rich circles. I can’t see a premiership footballer (from working class background) nipping out to’ Kev’s Ink Factory’ situated between the CodFather chippy and the charity shop.
However, if tattoos are not more prevalent amongst the lower end of the class system.... why set up a business on their doorstep?
Suppose we could say the same about betting shops, you seem to get more situated in the average high street than you do in upmarket high streets.
Indeed you can (sort of)........ they go where the business it at... though no one is claiming gambling is a class related activity... but visiting a bookies generally is.
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I just find it to be stupid that you can find about 8 bookies all within a 4 mile radius of one high street in a deprived town/city but you'll only find 2 in within the same radius in a more upscale high street
Anyways that's a different thread all together!!
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Hence you'll quite often find a posh jewellers, clothes store or delicatessen just down from the tattoo parlour!
I don't deny sometimes you will........... the ratio of those which are and those which aren't is far from equal."
reason for that is not all tattoo artists are equal aswell. far from it actually. u`ll find a not so good one alot more often than you will a good artist
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some do it out of a shed in their back gardens "
Well the Bookie's certainly used to, so why not tattooists as well
We have a mobile tattoo and piercing person-artist-thingy in Leicester - quite unique.
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?"
Yes....because everything you see on TV is a fully rounded representation of real life and in no way editorialised to meet the requirements of the program makers or to promote a particular response!
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I love tatts and I am currently designing a new one to go with the 4 I already have. All are specifically designed and personal to me. My OH is booked in for her next one. She has a beautiful design lined up, that is very much in line with her personality and beliefs.
I am just watching 'My Tattoo Addiction'. all I can say is there are some real fuckwits out there. This show exposes the worst of those who get inked, you only have to watch LA Ink, Miami Ink etc to see the broad spectrum of people who are now inked.
Tattooing is an artform, its just a shame that there some tattooists who are not artists and some tattoo-ees who are happy to pick a pick of a black panther with its claws in you skin tatt'ed on them.
As for anyone who gets Miley Cyrus tattooed on them.... I can see her on my face, but not inked on me!!! |
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"This programme was televised on Channel 4 on Thursday 18th October.
Did others notice that the majority of people with tattoos were from lower social classes. When did you last notice a doctor or barrister with a tattoo?
Yes....because everything you see on TV is a fully rounded representation of real life and in no way editorialised to meet the requirements of the program makers or to promote a particular response!
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My doc has a tatt. I knew an architect who was heavily inked. I think nowadays it is an expression of individuality |
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" I think nowadays it is an expression of individuality
Is that because they are far more common?
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No, I think throughout hiostory, there have been individuals |
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