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"Proper punctuation " That’s definitely a start for me. Punctuation and grammar | |||
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"Proper punctuation That’s definitely a start for me. Punctuation and grammar "I love my grammar. Such a lovely woman. | |||
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"Is there really a measure….. where some fall others succeed….. I think if someone can hold a conversation and doesn’t have to txt type in this day and age is an achievement "agreed my friend x | |||
"For me at 60 life experiences " I think to be honest you confuse intelligence with wisdom x Intelligence is the natural ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills, this tends to be more innate within people and not altered by time. | |||
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"Proper punctuation That’s definitely a start for me. Punctuation and grammar "I think that shows education. Not necessarily raw intelligence. Many people who are highly intelligent can’t spell that well. It is a complex thing to assess. | |||
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"Pointless on here by the look of the responses… Grammar, punctuation, vocabulary uh! Narrow minded… not a great sign of intelligence " Expert is here now people ^^^ | |||
"Well….there’s traditional academic intelligence and then there’s common sense and the two don’t always go hand in hand in the same individual…" Agreed, some intelligent people I've met seem to have a large part of their brain allocated to stupidity. | |||
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"Well….there’s traditional academic intelligence and then there’s common sense and the two don’t always go hand in hand in the same individual…" I was going to say intelligence is inversely proportional to common sense... | |||
"Proper punctuation " Definitely not true | |||
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"Well….there’s traditional academic intelligence and then there’s common sense and the two don’t always go hand in hand in the same individual…" Much like little academic intelligence can go hand in hand with lack of common sense. Bit screwed if that's the case. | |||
"Well….there’s traditional academic intelligence and then there’s common sense and the two don’t always go hand in hand in the same individual… I was going to say intelligence is inversely proportional to common sense... " I would challenge this: I am not saying they are proportional but I do not think we can conclude the opposite to be true either. | |||
"With a ruler usually " My last girlfriend said I had 9" worth of intelligence. Ironic.. as she was the one who didn't know which way around to hold a ruler. | |||
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"Well….there’s traditional academic intelligence and then there’s common sense and the two don’t always go hand in hand in the same individual… I was going to say intelligence is inversely proportional to common sense... " You can say that but it's simply not true. | |||
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"Another point of intrinsic note: The ability to memorise information and regurgitate it verbatim is an amazing feat of memory. But does it necessarily denote a superior intellect? " No. | |||
"So many different types of intelligence so impossible to have a single measure in my opinion OP. And that is exactly how it should be. "I know of approximately 8 intelligences. There may be more. | |||
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"Practical, emotional, social, philosophical, psychological, creative, academic, wisdom, knowledgeable, savvy, physical.. There's so many different kinds of intelligence! Shame our education systems don't reflect or celebrate this. " Those might be ways of showing intelligence but i'd argue that some of those named are not intelligences and some are the same thing ..... | |||
"Practical, emotional, social, philosophical, psychological, creative, academic, wisdom, knowledgeable, savvy, physical.. There's so many different kinds of intelligence! Shame our education systems don't reflect or celebrate this. " Agreed - it's a shame society tends to prize academic intelligence as the most valuable. | |||
"So many different types of intelligence so impossible to have a single measure in my opinion OP. And that is exactly how it should be. "Yeah, I think there’s classic examples on here, sure they can spell words and put them in fancy sentences, but are they street smart, I very much doubt it. | |||
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"Another point of intrinsic note: The ability to memorise information and regurgitate it verbatim is an amazing feat of memory. But does it necessarily denote a superior intellect? No. " I concur. A large component of intelligence is reasoning. To memorise word for word or indeed, large amounts of information does not necessarily mean that one has understood or rationalised the said information. | |||
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"Judging by the responses on this thread, I think the question should be ‘ how do we define intelligence?’ Rather than how do we measure it. " Intelligence I is knowing when to use a dictionary and when to use a sex site | |||
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"By the level of success you achieve for the amount of effort you have devoted to your vocation, avocation, interest, hobby or whatever. Intelligent individuals learn quickly what works, initially, and what will work in different situations with different people; they learn from experience. Unintelligent people make mistakes repeatedly; they adopt the wrong approach, choose the wrong people or groups, choose the wrong time to act, etc. Intelligent people are infinitely flexible, adaptable, socially adept and consequently are more successfully. Those with most modest innate abilities stumble blindly from one crisis to the next, ad infinitum, leaving a trail of wreckage in their wake. Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey. The know how to play the game, every game, with consummate ease." I absolutely love the way you describe intelligence and its applications - however, I do want to point out that it is not always as easy as you state in the seductive way you have defined it: "Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey" There are extremely intelligent people who are plagued by depression (some of this associated with the fact they ARE ABLE to see many things for what they really are) rather than through rose tinted spectacles of an Express consumer. (Just chose this tabloid randomly, no offense intended) Being very intelligent can pose huge challenges in life - certainly no guarantee for plain sailing. | |||
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"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up" I did | |||
"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up" If you could just drop me off around the corner that would be great. Cheers. | |||
"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up If you could just drop me off around the corner that would be great. Cheers. " That'll be an exorbitantly high tarriff charge sir......... thank you. Hope the rain stays off for you mate..... | |||
"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up If you could just drop me off around the corner that would be great. Cheers. That'll be an exorbitantly high tarriff charge sir......... thank you. Hope the rain stays off for you mate..... " What rain?  #itsalwayssunnyinDevon | |||
"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up I did " Maybe in another life ? | |||
"Some of the most intelligent people and greatest philosopher’s I’ve met were scaffolders, there’s a wisdom there, I think it’s constantly putting things up, reaching for the heavens, then taking them down again makes you question things, ultimately everything is futile, but within that there’s a beauty, that everything is finite. Like a great man said to me, give me a degree in common sense any day of the week. Another great man said common sense isn’t so common, some of the most well read people I met couldn’t lack basic common sense, sure they could recite things they read in books, but could they mix a decent gauge of muck, not even close, I’d often end up doing it myself, just one of those things. The wiser bloke I ever met worked in a plumbing supply shop, it’s like if Einstein never went into science, but sold stop cocks instead. " It just so happens I'm a scaffolder lol x | |||
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"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up I did Maybe in another life ?" Cheeky | |||
"Some of the most intelligent people and greatest philosopher’s I’ve met were scaffolders, there’s a wisdom there, I think it’s constantly putting things up, reaching for the heavens, then taking them down again makes you question things, ultimately everything is futile, but within that there’s a beauty, that everything is finite. Like a great man said to me, give me a degree in common sense any day of the week. Another great man said common sense isn’t so common, some of the most well read people I met couldn’t lack basic common sense, sure they could recite things they read in books, but could they mix a decent gauge of muck, not even close, I’d often end up doing it myself, just one of those things. The wiser bloke I ever met worked in a plumbing supply shop, it’s like if Einstein never went into science, but sold stop cocks instead. "
I don't look at intelligence as just someone who has a degree. To me intelligence is someone who has common sense and who can talk about things sensibly and not be afraid to speak their mind without resorting to insults and derogatory comments to anyone who disagrees with them. | |||
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"Proper punctuation That’s definitely a start for me. Punctuation and grammar
I love my grammar. Such a lovely woman. "Awww….were you her favourite, the one she’d ply with sweet and chocolates when your parents weren’t looking?  | |||
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"Why hasn't anyone said......... Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. This one always gets quoted when a thread on intelligence or wisdom comes up" Also must I add just like Jaffa cakes are a cake and not a biscuit. Pineapple does belong on a pizza. And Marmite is Satan sperm. | |||
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"By the level of success you achieve for the amount of effort you have devoted to your vocation, avocation, interest, hobby or whatever. Intelligent individuals learn quickly what works, initially, and what will work in different situations with different people; they learn from experience. Unintelligent people make mistakes repeatedly; they adopt the wrong approach, choose the wrong people or groups, choose the wrong time to act, etc. Intelligent people are infinitely flexible, adaptable, socially adept and consequently are more successfully. Those with most modest innate abilities stumble blindly from one crisis to the next, ad infinitum, leaving a trail of wreckage in their wake. Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey. The know how to play the game, every game, with consummate ease. I absolutely love the way you describe intelligence and its applications - however, I do want to point out that it is not always as easy as you state in the seductive way you have defined it: "Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey" There are extremely intelligent people who are plagued by depression (some of this associated with the fact they ARE ABLE to see many things for what they really are) rather than through rose tinted spectacles of an Express consumer. (Just chose this tabloid randomly, no offense intended) Being very intelligent can pose huge challenges in life - certainly no guarantee for plain sailing." Perspective is everything in life, once you've seen something, you can't 'unsee' it!! I assumed it was 'Daily Mail' readers that got the rose tinted glasses  . If only people could walk in others peoples shoes, see through their eyes and use compassion, thoughtfulness and be kind - we're all intelligent in our own way but need to use it wisely. Knowledge is power but we need wisdom to know how to use it!! | |||
"So many different types of intelligence so impossible to have a single measure in my opinion OP. And that is exactly how it should be.
Yeah, I think there’s classic examples on here, sure they can spell words and put them in fancy sentences, but are they street smart, I very much doubt it. "Surely, street smart is rather dependent on social circumstances. One can be deemed ‘unintelligent’ or average and not be at all street smart. I’m not clear what street smart is precisely. | |||
"I measure it quite literally on if you talk to people, are they listening and engaging, or just hearing but switched off? Then after that, do they have something to say that piques your interest? Intelligence is the willingness and openness to exchange ideas. " Ironic. | |||
"By the level of success you achieve for the amount of effort you have devoted to your vocation, avocation, interest, hobby or whatever. Intelligent individuals learn quickly what works, initially, and what will work in different situations with different people; they learn from experience. Unintelligent people make mistakes repeatedly; they adopt the wrong approach, choose the wrong people or groups, choose the wrong time to act, etc. Intelligent people are infinitely flexible, adaptable, socially adept and consequently are more successfully. Those with most modest innate abilities stumble blindly from one crisis to the next, ad infinitum, leaving a trail of wreckage in their wake. Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey. The know how to play the game, every game, with consummate ease. I absolutely love the way you describe intelligence and its applications - however, I do want to point out that it is not always as easy as you state in the seductive way you have defined it: "Intelligent individuals skilfully flow through life, masters of all they survey" There are extremely intelligent people who are plagued by depression (some of this associated with the fact they ARE ABLE to see many things for what they really are) rather than through rose tinted spectacles of an Express consumer. (Just chose this tabloid randomly, no offense intended) Being very intelligent can pose huge challenges in life - certainly no guarantee for plain sailing." Quite so. | |||
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"For me (and in the context of Fabs) it is not about formal education although that can be part of it but not necessarily. Neither is it spelling, maths, geometry or any of the traditional concepts taught at school. It is about an ability to think in abstract terms, to think creatively, to challenge other thoughts and to be sufficiently self-aware to spot your own illogical conclusions and blind spots. This is the crucial part! Well-read, well-versed in some of the things that interest me is a bonus." Isn't the point of "formal" education, that it's a broad brush to equip the majority with a set of tools and with the motivation to learn that allows you to go off and be self sufficient in developing your own intelligence should you so choose? Learning to learn if you like.? The fact someone can't do something practical like mix a bucket of muck is no more a sign of lack of intelligence than being able to solve differential calculus. The ability to apply or impart knowledge, skill, experience, enjoy, create, decision making, recall and memory, self awareness, organisation surely all form a part of what we label intelligence. | |||
"Intelligence is partly subjective. Ok I know alot about music(I'm a musician), painting decorating (job), politics and technology. I know bugger all about football/sports cars, stock markets, and quantum physics. So my point is intelligence is subjective to the individual." I love this I've not chuckled so smugly for some time.
Intelligence is subjective to the individual .... well I'm damned | |||
