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How do women feel about the term ‘Karen’ ?!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just trying to gauge women’s thoughts on the term ‘Karen’ being used on any woman who complains about something, or who is being seen as being assertive, do you find it offensive or do you think it’s harmless and well placed ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu  "
Yeah me too, I’m not sure how well known the term is known in the wider world, I suspect it’s just a social media thing, so most people wouldn’t have heard of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu
Yeah me too, I’m not sure how well known the term is known in the wider world, I suspect it’s just a social media thing, so most people wouldn’t have heard of it."
It's become a huge trend (for want of a better phrase) this past year or so. No one is calling their kid Karen in 2021!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu "
Indeed. I work with a lady called Karen and she gets really irate about it...typical Karen 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap. "
You mean you're not a wallflowery push over?!
You must be a right feisty bitch eh Karen? 
Can't be strong and female without getting some shit unfortunately
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap. "
There is a social media term of "gammon" for some men.
But I don't think it's the same meaning as "Karen" |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
You mean you're not a wallflowery push over?!
You must be a right feisty bitch eh Karen?
Can't be strong and female without getting some shit unfortunately
Lu "
Slides off me like goose fat off a roast potato  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
You mean you're not a wallflowery push over?!
You must be a right feisty bitch eh Karen?
Can't be strong and female without getting some shit unfortunately
Lu
Slides off me like goose fat off a roast potato "
Ooohhh yum! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap. "
If there is, it hasn’t stuck, I’ve seen a few names used for men but it varies, the only term men have is ‘gammon’ |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
There is a social media term of "gammon" for some men.
But I don't think it's the same meaning as "Karen""
No and it's not actually using a womans name but it's still dismissing people's arguments and opinions with a derogatory term. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
There is a social media term of "gammon" for some men.
But I don't think it's the same meaning as "Karen""
Yeah, it doesn’t mean the same thing, ‘gammon’ is more used about getting hot under the collar for specific issues. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
There is a social media term of "gammon" for some men.
But I don't think it's the same meaning as "Karen"
No and it's not actually using a womans name but it's still dismissing people's arguments and opinions with a derogatory term. "
Yeah it's not very nice.
Social media is so toxic right now, I keep off it all. |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap. "
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu
Indeed. I work with a lady called Karen and she gets really irate about it...typical Karen
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See, they can’t win, think most people would be pissed off in there name was used in a negative way, but if they vent then they’re being a ‘Karen’ about it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that. "
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think anyone who is offended proves they are a Karen  "
Even when the term ‘Karen’ is used for any woman that stands up for herself now, because that’s where the term has shifted to, so women can’t be annoyed that they can’t be seen to be assertive or taking control of a situation ?! |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding. "
Men have to be assertive, otherwise women would run around in a flap all day.
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding.
Men have to be assertive, otherwise women would run around in a flap all day.
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You're absolutely right of course. That's why when I used to assert myself in meetings and in situations that I felt needed it I was referred to as Anne Robinson. It's just not natural for women to assert themselves we should all wait for a man to do it then be grateful  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Its now being entirely misused and yes it is being used against women standing up for themselves. Why is there no make counterpoint? I've worked in customer service and just as many men complain. "
Yeah, the meaning has changed, so now a woman can’t stand up for herself, even when she’s totally validated and when it’s totally appropriate and necessary, without being seen as being entitled and demanding. |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding.
Men have to be assertive, otherwise women would run around in a flap all day.
You're absolutely right of course. That's why when I used to assert myself in meetings and in situations that I felt needed it I was referred to as Anne Robinson. It's just not natural for women to assert themselves we should all wait for a man to do it then be grateful "
If only more women accepted this. You are very wise......... for a woman. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding.
Men have to be assertive, otherwise women would run around in a flap all day.
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My boss is a woman, she replaced a man who couldn’t do the job because of the pressure, she seems to breeze through totally unfazed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap. "
Kyle |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
I think you’ll find there is no male equivalent, because men aren’t like that.
No, men are like that, but when a man does it, it’s being assertive, when a woman does it’s perceived she’s being entitled, or demanding.
Men have to be assertive, otherwise women would run around in a flap all day.
You're absolutely right of course. That's why when I used to assert myself in meetings and in situations that I felt needed it I was referred to as Anne Robinson. It's just not natural for women to assert themselves we should all wait for a man to do it then be grateful
If only more women accepted this. You are very wise......... for a woman. "
Mrs N blushes, walks off giggling and feels honoured but suddenly realises she's forgotten to make her husbands dinner and rushes home |
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"Is there an equivalent for men?
No?
Thought not.
That's how I feel about it. Its like when I used to be called feisty at work because I didn't take any crap.
Kyle "
I was thinking maybe Kevin but then I remembered he's a famous carrot |
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"Just trying to gauge women’s thoughts on the term ‘Karen’ being used on any woman who complains about something, or who is being seen as being assertive, do you find it offensive or do you think it’s harmless and well placed ?"
I thought it meant someone that believed anything they read on Facebook. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Just trying to gauge women’s thoughts on the term ‘Karen’ being used on any woman who complains about something, or who is being seen as being assertive, do you find it offensive or do you think it’s harmless and well placed ?
I thought it meant someone that believed anything they read on Facebook."
Nope, it doesn’t mean that. |
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"Just trying to gauge women’s thoughts on the term ‘Karen’ being used on any woman who complains about something, or who is being seen as being assertive, do you find it offensive or do you think it’s harmless and well placed ?
I thought it meant someone that believed anything they read on Facebook.
Nope, it doesn’t mean that."
It's the only way I've heard it used until this thread.
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
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Didn't a group of women called Karen try to get a lawsuit issued against TruthBook to stop people using the "karen" name in a disparaging way because they were fed up with it?
Possibly the most "Karen" thing they could have done.
Like most things/terms, context and intent are everything.
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I think the male equivalent was a Dave which represented an opinionated, Jack the lad sort - ‘That geezer’s a real Dave!’
A Kevin meanwhile was a derogatory term for a nerd of some kind - ‘Look at that fucking Kevin playing With his D&D figures!’
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think the male equivalent was a Dave which represented an opinionated, Jack the lad sort - ‘That geezer’s a real Dave!’
A Kevin meanwhile was a derogatory term for a nerd of some kind - ‘Look at that fucking Kevin playing With his D&D figures!’
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Neither of those terms took off in the same way ‘Karen’ has. |
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu "
I think it greatly disrespectful towards the feeling of anyone called Karen or indeed any person who has an affection for a Karen
Karen's are vastly differing individuals to , even in jest , project one negative character trait to the name is insulting  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Honestly couldn't really care either way...
I feel a bit sorry for anyone called Karen tho.
Lu
I think it greatly disrespectful towards the feeling of anyone called Karen or indeed any person who has an affection for a Karen
Karen's are vastly differing individuals to , even in jest , project one negative character trait to the name is insulting "
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