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over a year ago
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..... do you have a tendency to jump in to a situation or debate without much knowledge or understanding of the subject? Does truth and knowledge even matter to you or are you better served by your gut instinct or tribal loyalties....?
Have a ponder on it and let me know what you think this afternoon, preferably after some thought. Challenge my brain plz it's melting this week.... 
Have a great day everyone. I'm off to see some seals with my girl. If anyone from fab is there, no need to say hi or anything ok, just enjoy the seals.... 
Intended as a simple thread, no sarcastic undertones, keep it pleasant and be nice to each other if you can.... If not then just send vag pics or tributes and fab my pics.... 
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I realise how much bullshit people talk when they’re talking about a subject I know a lot about, so if there’s a subject I know little about, I tend to not get involved, or read up on it, cause a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. More people should do the same, listen to the experts and the scientists and don’t let Your ego get in the way, it’s okay to change your mind on a topic, it’s not a form of weakness. The problem today is everyone gets entrenched in their side of the argument and they don’t listen to what other people are saying, it’s become so polarised and that gets us nowhere. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
What if I found out I know less than I thought....
Stop over thinking
Never! Thought makes us thoughtful.... 
Or causes brain Fog"
Or a brain hurricane.... |
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By *asmeenTV/TS
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
What if I found out I know less than I thought....
Stop over thinking
Never! Thought makes us thoughtful....
Or causes brain Fog
Or a brain hurricane.... "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I realise how much bullshit people talk when they’re talking about a subject I know a lot about, so if there’s a subject I know little about, I tend to not get involved, or read up on it, cause a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. More people should do the same, listen to the experts and the scientists and don’t let Your ego get in the way, it’s okay to change your mind on a topic, it’s not a form of weakness. The problem today is everyone gets entrenched in their side of the argument and they don’t listen to what other people are saying, it’s become so polarised and that gets us nowhere. "
That's actually very well put. I agree, tribalism can be so unproductive....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Generally if i know fuck all about something i keep well and truly quiet. But if it's something i know in depth I'll happily pipe up and argue if needed.
Don't presume to know a lot though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I like facts from everyone, not just those presenting a debate.
I've seen how twisted and skewed information can be according to whom may be presenting....God ive become cynical and jaded ! 
But remember...facts always don't provide answers....simply the questions to ask in my experience.
Did any of that make sense?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" I like facts from everyone, not just those presenting a debate.
I've seen how twisted and skewed information can be according to whom may be presenting....God ive become cynical and jaded !
But remember...facts always don't provide answers....simply the questions to ask in my experience.
Did any of that make sense? "
Is sense still allowed these days?? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Well done, five minutes at least....
Jeez, never happy are you nip?
Vag makes me happy....
Never noticed you mention that before 
Vag 
Whod Mag?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" I like facts from everyone, not just those presenting a debate.
I've seen how twisted and skewed information can be according to whom may be presenting....God ive become cynical and jaded !
But remember...facts always don't provide answers....simply the questions to ask in my experience.
Did any of that make sense? "
Absolute sense! And I don't find that jaded at all, just wise... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Knowledge matters. Understanding of a subject is good. Trying to see all sides of an arguement.
Can jump in with opinion if you have less knowledge but should be open to people who have more knowledge correcting you and be open to learning more and, possibly, changing your opinion.
Being dogmatic and defending a position purely for tribal loyalties doesn't play for me (which usually explains why on the web discussions degenerate very fast). But then I've never been tribal or much of a team player.
IMO 'truth' is overrated and highly subjective (unless we're talking mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry et al (there will be exceptions) ). Everyone has their own truth and sees things differently. Even memories are not reliable.
Always be open to new ideas/viewpoints/arguements but don't take things as 'true' just because - todays ideas and theories will be tomorrows failed ideas and theories.
A good book dealing with some of this is Being Wrong by Kathryn Schulz - whatever you believe to be right/wrong/moral today will be wrong and out of date tomorrow. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" I like facts from everyone, not just those presenting a debate.
I've seen how twisted and skewed information can be according to whom may be presenting....God ive become cynical and jaded !
But remember...facts always don't provide answers....simply the questions to ask in my experience.
Did any of that make sense?
Is sense still allowed these days??"
In-a-sense is underrated..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I realise how much bullshit people talk when they’re talking about a subject I know a lot about, so if there’s a subject I know little about, I tend to not get involved, or read up on it, cause a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. More people should do the same, listen to the experts and the scientists and don’t let Your ego get in the way, it’s okay to change your mind on a topic, it’s not a form of weakness. The problem today is everyone gets entrenched in their side of the argument and they don’t listen to what other people are saying, it’s become so polarised and that gets us nowhere. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Knowledge matters. Understanding of a subject is good. Trying to see all sides of an arguement.
Can jump in with opinion if you have less knowledge but should be open to people who have more knowledge correcting you and be open to learning more and, possibly, changing your opinion.
Being dogmatic and defending a position purely for tribal loyalties doesn't play for me (which usually explains why on the web discussions degenerate very fast). But then I've never been tribal or much of a team player.
IMO 'truth' is overrated and highly subjective (unless we're talking mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry et al (there will be exceptions) ). Everyone has their own truth and sees things differently. Even memories are not reliable.
Always be open to new ideas/viewpoints/arguements but don't take things as 'true' just because - todays ideas and theories will be tomorrows failed ideas and theories.
A good book dealing with some of this is Being Wrong by Kathryn Schulz - whatever you believe to be right/wrong/moral today will be wrong and out of date tomorrow. "
I like that idea
I'm a sort of chemist, and junior chemistry is disproved as you advance to higher levels, but without it you can't advance, if that makes sense.... keep thoughtful.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I like to do a Tarzan swings. Get a small amount of information and leap to a wild-assed guess at a conclusion
Don't we all occasionally....? "
I call it intuition |
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"I like to do a Tarzan swings. Get a small amount of information and leap to a wild-assed guess at a conclusion
Don't we all occasionally....?
I call it intuition"
It does serve when we don't have time to be experts.... |
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Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knowledge matters. Understanding of a subject is good. Trying to see all sides of an arguement.
Can jump in with opinion if you have less knowledge but should be open to people who have more knowledge correcting you and be open to learning more and, possibly, changing your opinion.
Being dogmatic and defending a position purely for tribal loyalties doesn't play for me (which usually explains why on the web discussions degenerate very fast). But then I've never been tribal or much of a team player.
IMO 'truth' is overrated and highly subjective (unless we're talking mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry et al (there will be exceptions) ). Everyone has their own truth and sees things differently. Even memories are not reliable.
Always be open to new ideas/viewpoints/arguements but don't take things as 'true' just because - todays ideas and theories will be tomorrows failed ideas and theories.
A good book dealing with some of this is Being Wrong by Kathryn Schulz - whatever you believe to be right/wrong/moral today will be wrong and out of date tomorrow.
I like that idea
I'm a sort of chemist, and junior chemistry is disproved as you advance to higher levels, but without it you can't advance, if that makes sense.... keep thoughtful.... "
I had a girlfriend who studied physics at university. She said the first thing they told everyone was forget the physics you learnt at school because it was all wrong. And they started again.
Being more of a humanities man myself I tend to think there are no real wrong or right answers - just wether you can back them up or not.
In English Lit. there is no one way to interpret Shakespeare - you can say what you want as long as you can back up your assertions from the text.
Historical events are fixed(?maybe?) but the interpretation of those events changes over time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If it's a subject I know very little or nothing about, I may give my tuppence worth, but would state that I'm not knowledgeable on the matter, in the hope to learn something. If it's a subject or conversation I do know something about, I will state my opinion, with the view to engage in conversation, and again possibly learn something. I do at times go with my "gut instinct", but depends on subject matter. I would like to think that I have no tribal loyalty in the sense that I think you mean. Regardless of all the above, my opinion or mind can and has been changed on many things through conversation, and think this is important. It's not a bad thing to be better informed of a subject and then change outlook or train of thoughts, it's one of the many ways in which we grow as a person. |
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Knowledge Vs assumption......
Knowledge can only go so far without direct experience. A lot of perceive Knowledge are actually intellect, objective understanding of a matter.
knowledge must be grounded in experience more than just knowing or hearsay. I could tell you how to drive and what not but if not ground in personal experience the knowledge/knowing is just the beginning.
A lot of people speak from the point of hearsay, which leads to an assumption.
Truth is subjective to the individual experience. War or historical context is a perfect example of the truth changes. Two people can be faced with the same situation and see different point. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
This definitely needs a rainbow
The rainbow is just in the distance out of shot.....
With Bungle and Geoffrey  "
And forgot George |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
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The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit....  |
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit.... "
Oh and the seals were amazing, I'll show you.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I only weigh in on a subject if I believe myself to have sufficient sagacity on said subject matter.
......I am subsequently, usually silent in conversations..... "
But do you need to know all the details to contribute nor offer insight and direction, if you recognise the lack of knowledge....? |
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit.... "
You arguementative? No never!!! |
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I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Knowledge matters. Understanding of a subject is good. Trying to see all sides of an arguement.
Can jump in with opinion if you have less knowledge but should be open to people who have more knowledge correcting you and be open to learning more and, possibly, changing your opinion.
Being dogmatic and defending a position purely for tribal loyalties doesn't play for me (which usually explains why on the web discussions degenerate very fast). But then I've never been tribal or much of a team player.
IMO 'truth' is overrated and highly subjective (unless we're talking mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry et al (there will be exceptions) ). Everyone has their own truth and sees things differently. Even memories are not reliable.
Always be open to new ideas/viewpoints/arguements but don't take things as 'true' just because - todays ideas and theories will be tomorrows failed ideas and theories.
A good book dealing with some of this is Being Wrong by Kathryn Schulz - whatever you believe to be right/wrong/moral today will be wrong and out of date tomorrow.
I like that idea
I'm a sort of chemist, and junior chemistry is disproved as you advance to higher levels, but without it you can't advance, if that makes sense.... keep thoughtful....
I had a girlfriend who studied physics at university. She said the first thing they told everyone was forget the physics you learnt at school because it was all wrong. And they started again.
Being more of a humanities man myself I tend to think there are no real wrong or right answers - just wether you can back them up or not.
In English Lit. there is no one way to interpret Shakespeare - you can say what you want as long as you can back up your assertions from the text.
Historical events are fixed(?maybe?) but the interpretation of those events changes over time. "
Every day is a school day for me, even when I think I'm already an expert....  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Knowledge matters. Understanding of a subject is good. Trying to see all sides of an arguement.
Can jump in with opinion if you have less knowledge but should be open to people who have more knowledge correcting you and be open to learning more and, possibly, changing your opinion.
Being dogmatic and defending a position purely for tribal loyalties doesn't play for me (which usually explains why on the web discussions degenerate very fast). But then I've never been tribal or much of a team player.
IMO 'truth' is overrated and highly subjective (unless we're talking mathematics, physics, biology, chemistry et al (there will be exceptions) ). Everyone has their own truth and sees things differently. Even memories are not reliable.
Always be open to new ideas/viewpoints/arguements but don't take things as 'true' just because - todays ideas and theories will be tomorrows failed ideas and theories.
A good book dealing with some of this is Being Wrong by Kathryn Schulz - whatever you believe to be right/wrong/moral today will be wrong and out of date tomorrow.
I like that idea
I'm a sort of chemist, and junior chemistry is disproved as you advance to higher levels, but without it you can't advance, if that makes sense.... keep thoughtful....
I had a girlfriend who studied physics at university. She said the first thing they told everyone was forget the physics you learnt at school because it was all wrong. And they started again.
Being more of a humanities man myself I tend to think there are no real wrong or right answers - just wether you can back them up or not.
In English Lit. there is no one way to interpret Shakespeare - you can say what you want as long as you can back up your assertions from the text.
Historical events are fixed(?maybe?) but the interpretation of those events changes over time.
Every day is a school day for me, even when I think I'm already an expert.... "
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I often wander into conversations half way through. There's a 50% chance it is going to be something I know nothing about! Current world goings-ons for a start
I love learning and am happy to ask the 'dumb' questions most people are too embarrassed to, and see people around me marginally sigh relief when stuff gets simplified! I pick stuff up quickly and can apply common sense to most conversations.
I'm always happy to play devils advocate wether I know I'm right or wrong and I'm just fine being proved wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Knowledge Vs assumption......
Knowledge can only go so far without direct experience. A lot of perceive Knowledge are actually intellect, objective understanding of a matter.
knowledge must be grounded in experience more than just knowing or hearsay. I could tell you how to drive and what not but if not ground in personal experience the knowledge/knowing is just the beginning.
A lot of people speak from the point of hearsay, which leads to an assumption.
Truth is subjective to the individual experience. War or historical context is a perfect example of the truth changes. Two people can be faced with the same situation and see different point."
Ooooooh, EXPERIENCE, I like that idea.....! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
This definitely needs a rainbow
The rainbow is just in the distance out of shot.....
With Bungle and Geoffrey
And forgot George "
You calling me zippy..... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit....
You arguementative? No never!!! "
Shuddupppppp.....  |
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"I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people "
So you would you talk to me about my job or be interested in it....? |
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"I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people
So you would you talk to me about my job or be interested in it....? "
Yes but with interest as to what you do but not as someone that thinks I know or understand it. |
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I thought I knew everything until yesterdays incident.....  "
Ah I didn t realise there d been an incident...hope it wasn t too bad. |
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"I often wander into conversations half way through. There's a 50% chance it is going to be something I know nothing about! Current world goings-ons for a start
I love learning and am happy to ask the 'dumb' questions most people are too embarrassed to, and see people around me marginally sigh relief when stuff gets simplified! I pick stuff up quickly and can apply common sense to most conversations.
I'm always happy to play devils advocate wether I know I'm right or wrong and I'm just fine being proved wrong. "
You my lovely are definitely a LOT smarter than you'd have ppl believe.... . I'm actually slightly jealous of the way your English flows too.... |
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"I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people
So you would you talk to me about my job or be interested in it....?
Yes but with interest as to what you do but not as someone that thinks I know or understand it. "
Yeah and that would increase your knowledge.... |
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"Please be aware of the forum rules before posting
I thought I knew everything until yesterdays incident.....
Ah I didn t realise there d been an incident...hope it wasn t too bad."
Hahaha, I'm kitten, no incidents, well I don't think.... |
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit....
You arguementative? No never!!!
Shuddupppppp..... "
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"Another thought provoking question Nip, hope you got to see some seals.
But back to the question, I'm human that means I do both. I'm analytical so I want answers with facts and figures if it's something that can be measured in such a way. But you can't do this with emotions you can't measure ones emotions Vs another's, we all feel differently.
I do believe in gut instinct even though it's a fallible measurement. I in particular tend to go with gut instincts because of my past even though the logical part of me knows this isn't always the right course of action. Tribal loyalties I think can be harmful, who decides the rules you must adhere to? How do you question the leaders of the tribe? And as they are a tribe can outsiders question their rhetoric?
I do have a tendency to jump into debates regardless if I have an in-depth knowledge or not. But I always make sure I highlight when I'm debating based on my opinions (by using I think or I believe...) which are obviously biased and when I'm answering with fact and figures I will give my sources.
Is my own answer based on my own opinions of myself correct? What's your own style Nippy?
The question I don't think has a right or wrong answer. I do a bit of both I'd rather be more knowledge based but I don't always have time or ability to understand a subject fully, BUT I usually know when I don't know and I'm ALWAYS open to persuasion. I can be a bit anti-tribe at times and maybe that makes me overlook the occasional good a tribe might do, idk.... I'm fiercely independent at times and that's not always a good thing if you're trying to win friends and influence, coz ppl can just think you're an argumentative cock innit....
You arguementative? No never!!!
Shuddupppppp.....
Ok I'll shut up "
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
This definitely needs a rainbow
The rainbow is just in the distance out of shot.....
With Bungle and Geoffrey
And forgot George
You calling me zippy..... "
I had wondered if that comment had gone over your head  . It was Transgirl |
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"I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people
So you would you talk to me about my job or be interested in it....?
Yes but with interest as to what you do but not as someone that thinks I know or understand it.
Yeah and that would increase your knowledge.... "
Yes it would...as it should be..thats how we learn..by listening |
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"The truth will set you free zippy x
This definitely needs a rainbow
The rainbow is just in the distance out of shot.....
With Bungle and Geoffrey
And forgot George
You calling me zippy.....
I had wondered if that comment had gone over your head . It was Transgirl "
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"I dont involve myself in conversations I have no knowledge of...I believe in truth wholeheartedly...same with judgement
.how can one judge without first of all knowing the facts....having said that I spend so much of my time solitary I rarely see anyone and when I do its a very small selection of close people
So you would you talk to me about my job or be interested in it....?
Yes but with interest as to what you do but not as someone that thinks I know or understand it.
Yeah and that would increase your knowledge....
Yes it would...as it should be..thats how we learn..by listening "
Keeping ones mouth shut is a much underrated skill. As is whispering - it brings other folk out and makes them louder with knowledge..... |
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"Reminds me of one of coveys 7 habits, first seek to understand, then be understood...."
Just a little step back to consider you e subject before offloading what you think is knowledge can make a big difference imho.... |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated "
Where's my vag....? Js.... |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated "
Do you like my pretty boob profile pic btw - she's purrrrdy ain't she..... |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated
Where's my vag....? Js.... "
Don't know where did you hide it? |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated
Do you like my pretty boob profile pic btw - she's purrrrdy ain't she..... "
That's impressive boobage even by my standards |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated
Where's my vag....? Js....
Don't know where did you hide it? "
I believe I left it in your pants.... |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated
Do you like my pretty boob profile pic btw - she's purrrrdy ain't she.....
That's impressive boobage even by my standards "
Ikr, she's the best mate everrrrrr....! |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now "
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue "
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
That's it we are not friends anymore, devastated
Do you like my pretty boob profile pic btw - she's purrrrdy ain't she.....
That's impressive boobage even by my standards
Ikr, she's the best mate everrrrrr....!"
I never asked, do you reckon that's milk or jizz in that glass....? |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me "
That's an insult disguised as a threesome if ever I saw one.... |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me "
A better offer than I get off SOME PEOPLE! |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me
A better offer than I get off SOME PEOPLE! "
Winner we can head off and get a nice drink, what you drinking |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me
A better offer than I get off SOME PEOPLE!
Winner we can head off and get a nice drink, what you drinking "
My round. Pint of cider for me. What's your poison? We letting Nip no what pub we're in? |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me
A better offer than I get off SOME PEOPLE!
Winner we can head off and get a nice drink, what you drinking
My round. Pint of cider for me. What's your poison? We letting Nip no what pub we're in? "
Currently drinking wine, but do like a pint of cider, don't know how mean should we be ? |
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"Where's my picture of a seal?
Oh fuck, will you be jealous if I sent one to heat already?
I'm on it....
Very jealous of you now
Don't be!
I know where I stand and it's a very long queue
What to run as far away from Nippy as humanly possible? Don't worry you can queue jump next to me
A better offer than I get off SOME PEOPLE!
Winner we can head off and get a nice drink, what you drinking
My round. Pint of cider for me. What's your poison? We letting Nip no what pub we're in?
Currently drinking wine, but do like a pint of cider, don't know how mean should we be ? "
MILK! |
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"And stop ganging up on poor old me....
Seriously you're trying the poor old me trick "
Yeah, this week I only had six tributes and a dozen vag pics..... |
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"Sometimes I jump in with a guy reaction or out of loyalty and then realise I haven't understood or listened and actauly heard
So I may take a step back to fully understand whatever it is"
That's about where I am too, only I don't jump in with a guys unless it's giving? |
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"Sometimes I jump in with a guy reaction or out of loyalty and then realise I haven't understood or listened and actauly heard
So I may take a step back to fully understand whatever it is
That's about where I am too, only I don't jump in with a guys unless it's giving? "
Me...well, I like to give and take |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already.... "
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely "
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..? |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..? "
Yeah I'd like to know this too |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..? "
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though.... |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though.... "
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....! |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....! "
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?".... |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"...."
Waa you weirdo |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"....
Waa you weirdo "
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"....
Waa you weirdo "
You're into some weird shit!
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"....
Waa you weirdo
You're into some weird shit!
But essentially we're both awsome "
Who....? |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"....
Waa you weirdo
You're into some weird shit!
But essentially we're both awsome
Who....? "
You 
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Xnip do you want to share some kinky entertainment in here or you coming back to the other thread you was poking in to release some energy...
Let me know either way because people are waiting for us to get the party started. Don't be a spoil sport now that I know how much fun you like to have or we can go into that chicken thread if you don't bail out because that looks like the sort of fun you used to enjoy back in the day.
What say you!?
Think about it while I catch up on other things. This will be like how we used to do it back in the day with old skool Fabbers full of knowledge and all sorts |
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"Fairly mean I reckon
Who's mean?
Me and heat
I didn't notice.....
You're both quite similar, you should be friends if you're not already....
We aren't yet, but I think we're getting along nicely
I'm sure we'd get along beautifully
So how are we similar then Nippy..?
Hahaha, in public?
You're both thoroughly decent human beings for one and I genuinely love you both and I'm glad to have you around. Both very chilled, undemanding and always there for a laugh. Loyal and safe with my filth and secrets. Both very sexy and both on my to do list. I'm not sure if Frida has the metal rod thingies though....
Oh, and you both apparently love seals....!
When heat asked me to send her a pic of a seal I was like "oh my, is this like something sexual I don't know about like air tight...?"....
Waa you weirdo
You're into some weird shit!
But essentially we're both awsome
Who....?
You
You don't see me doing non vanilla stuffs. "
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"Xnip do you want to share some kinky entertainment in here or you coming back to the other thread you was poking in to release some energy...
Let me know either way because people are waiting for us to get the party started. Don't be a spoil sport now that I know how much fun you like to have or we can go into that chicken thread if you don't bail out because that looks like the sort of fun you used to enjoy back in the day.
What say you!?
Think about it while I catch up on other things. This will be like how we used to do it back in the day with old skool Fabbers full of knowledge and all sorts "
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