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the "cream tea" debate
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
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is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss |
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over a year ago
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss "
To late that box is now open, it's pronounced "scone"..... Sorted  |
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss
To late that box is now open, it's pronounced "scone"..... Sorted "
Not in these here parts it isn't  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It tastes exactly the same whichever way you do it. There must always, always be a thick layer of salted butter though "
salted fucking butter!!! What saucery is this
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss
To late that box is now open, it's pronounced "scone"..... Sorted
Not in these here parts it isn't "
How is it pronounced then? |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
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Just. No.
Butter does not go with cream and jam.
Cream first, then jam. Because you use the cream instead of butter and would never put butter on after jam.
And this is not a debate that should raise its ugly head ever. Because like sex, it's subjective. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OK you have to cut it in half then put jam on the top and cream on the bottom, no butter.
there is no other way to do it!"
Thank god for that. Someone who knows how it’s done  |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i am trying to get over this "putting the two halves of a scone back together" nonsense...
you don't cut it in two to then eat them as one!!!!
what is the chicanery.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss "
It's actually "scone" no matter where your from or what your background it's still always "scone",
Just simply pronounced differently.  |
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"There are 2 ways 2 do it
1. The Devon Way:
Cream first - then jam. Split the scone in half that them as 2 separate pieces- don't join them together.
NO Butter
2.The Wrong Way
That is all..."
The cream tea was actually invented in Devon (Tavistock, to be precise), when monks used to hand out sweetened bread with jam and thickened cream to passing travellers.
Devon invented it, so their method is the right one - cream then jam.
That's that one settled. Now, who's going to start the swede Vs turnip pasty debate? |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss
It's actually "scone" no matter where your from or what your background it's still always "scone",
Just simply pronounced differently. "
okay then smartarse!!! lol... scone as in cone.... or scone as in gone.....
there... that should get around the regional dialect issues!!!
right... off the starbucks... my ice cold frap is not going to make and drink itself!!! |
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"There are 2 ways 2 do it
1. The Devon Way:
Cream first - then jam. Split the scone in half that them as 2 separate pieces- don't join them together.
NO Butter
2.The Wrong Way
That is all...
The cream tea was actually invented in Devon (Tavistock, to be precise), when monks used to hand out sweetened bread with jam and thickened cream to passing travellers.
Devon invented it, so their method is the right one - cream then jam.
That's that one settled. Now, who's going to start the swede Vs turnip pasty debate?"
You had to go and do it 
Thats enough debates for one day already lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i am trying to get over this "putting the two halves of a scone back together" nonsense...
you don't cut it in two to then eat them as one!!!!
what is the chicanery.... "
Hang on!you are not even considering the possibility of eating them as 2 separate half's right! |
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According to Debretts, the correct etiquette is to do it for the location you are in - Cornwall jam first - Devon - cream first, outside of those counties it is cream first that is considered that the Devon method is the most practical and neatest. However the real etiquette is not cutting the scone with a knife but by pulling bite sized pieces then adding the cream and jam, always from the plate, never the container to that piece. |
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"It tastes exactly the same whichever way you do it. There must always, always be a thick layer of salted butter though "
Theoretically it does matter? as fat (cream) on the tongue subdued later flavours
The concept of a palette cleanser is to remove fats from the taste buds
However which tastes better is completely up to the individual
Suggesting right or wrong is futile
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss "
Isn't there enough anger and hatred in the world at the moment as is?
Surely now is not the time for this most divisive of debates?
(Also, if you put the cream on top of the jam, you're a monster)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss
Isn't there enough anger and hatred in the world at the moment as is?
Surely now is not the time for this most divisive of debates?
(Also, if you put the cream on top of the jam, you're a monster)
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I am said "monster" then 
....oh and an "animal" according to my neighbour for eating black pudding with my fry up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i am trying to get over this "putting the two halves of a scone back together" nonsense...
you don't cut it in two to then eat them as one!!!!
what is the chicanery.... "
Its very simple - you then cut the put back together scone in half |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You need to assess the working properties of the scone,jam and cream.
The scone has to be firm enough to be spread upon. Let's assume it is. But some can be quite delicate.
Anyway. You have to spread whichever is the firmest next, either the cream or the jam. Otherwise disaster follows.
So clotted cream is firmer than whipped, which is firmer than spray on cream.
Jams vary in consistency. Jellylike ones being quite firm, homemade could be poured onto your scone.
So get all the ingredients on your plate and do some preliminary testing. Then you will avoid a mess. |
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I'm not bothered where anybody is from. I put jam on first because is stick to the scone. The cream goes on top of that because the jam doesn't get pulled off the scone like cream does if I did it the other way round. |
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
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"You need to assess the working properties of the scone,jam and cream.
The scone has to be firm enough to be spread upon. Let's assume it is. But some can be quite delicate.
Anyway. You have to spread whichever is the firmest next, either the cream or the jam. Otherwise disaster follows.
So clotted cream is firmer than whipped, which is firmer than spray on cream.
Jams vary in consistency. Jellylike ones being quite firm, homemade could be poured onto your scone.
So get all the ingredients on your plate and do some preliminary testing. Then you will avoid a mess."
Woah now! WTAF?
Don't even start to suggest anything other than clotted. What kind of demon are you FFS? |
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"You need to assess the working properties of the scone,jam and cream.
The scone has to be firm enough to be spread upon. Let's assume it is. But some can be quite delicate.
Anyway. You have to spread whichever is the firmest next, either the cream or the jam. Otherwise disaster follows.
So clotted cream is firmer than whipped, which is firmer than spray on cream.
Jams vary in consistency. Jellylike ones being quite firm, homemade could be poured onto your scone.
So get all the ingredients on your plate and do some preliminary testing. Then you will avoid a mess."
Spray/squirty cream has no place in this scenario whatsoever!
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss
To late that box is now open, it's pronounced "scone"..... Sorted
Not in these here parts it isn't
How is it pronounced then? "
Tbf I'd say scone too. It's not something I say often, I got myself quite confused |
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if you put the cream on first its difficult to get a good spread of jam.
Jam first (generally should be more solid than the cream) followed by big dollops of cream.
What you have missed off is the fact the whole operation should start with a good layer (minimum 1cm) of cold butter, then the jam, then the cream (thats the scottish way  )
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2 halves of 'sconEs'
cream first, then strawberry jam... never join them together, served with a lush cup of tea, milk no sugar!
West Country lass right here!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"2 halves of 'sconEs'
cream first, then strawberry jam... never join them together, served with a lush cup of tea, milk no sugar!
West Country lass right here! "
Im with you on not joining them together (seems like there's twice as many) but jam first, everyone knows that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
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I'd go jam first as it's easier to spread it on and then I would dollop on a big load of cream. |
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"Annoncement. I have selflessly conducted an experiment to answer the question once and for all and the flavour combo of cream first then jam was honestly better, because the jam hit the tastebuds before the cream.  "
That is thorough dedication to the thread right there!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Annoncement. I have selflessly conducted an experiment to answer the question once and for all and the flavour combo of cream first then jam was honestly better, because the jam hit the tastebuds before the cream. "
Haha love it!
I prefer your combo too. Cream is substitution of butter after all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Annoncement. I have selflessly conducted an experiment to answer the question once and for all and the flavour combo of cream first then jam was honestly better, because the jam hit the tastebuds before the cream.
Haha love it!
I prefer your combo too. Cream is substitution of butter after all. "
And the cream doesnt drip off the side, as someone suggested, Its Clotted!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just. No.
Butter does not go with cream and jam.
Cream first, then jam. Because you use the cream instead of butter and would never put butter on after jam.
And this is not a debate that should raise its ugly head ever. Because like sex, it's subjective. "
This! You wouldn't put jam on your toast before butter. And who are these heathens having butter AND cream?! How are y'all still so slim?! Just having this conversation has probably made me put on at least 2lbs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
Flag on the play.......
you sir.... get out!!! you are hereby banned from this thread!!!! "
I'm launching an appeal here.....
.... first chew and it's mixed anyway |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
Flag on the play.......
you sir.... get out!!! you are hereby banned from this thread!!!!
I'm launching an appeal here.....
.... first chew and it's mixed anyway "
M&S are selling this. Strawberry clotted cream. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
Flag on the play.......
you sir.... get out!!! you are hereby banned from this thread!!!!
I'm launching an appeal here.....
.... first chew and it's mixed anyway
M&S are selling this. Strawberry clotted cream. "
Well if M&S sell it it's alright by me |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
Flag on the play.......
you sir.... get out!!! you are hereby banned from this thread!!!!
I'm launching an appeal here.....
.... first chew and it's mixed anyway "
VAR has just looked at it......
thats a foul!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mix the cream and jam before applying to the scone - problem over. Lol
Flag on the play.......
you sir.... get out!!! you are hereby banned from this thread!!!!
I'm launching an appeal here.....
.... first chew and it's mixed anyway
VAR has just looked at it......
thats a foul!!!! "
Well we all know VAR gets fuck all right so can I play on? |
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"How do you spread the jam if the cream goes on first?
I asked that earlier
Must be a secret as no one has responded to either of us  "
Its It's actually no secret 
So obviously the only cream to be using is clotted cream
My experience is any good clotted cream will ALWAYS be both more viscous and turgid than any quality jam which actually should if fruity without gelatin should not be like a jelly
The facts kind of answer the debate
Using quality ingredients the clotted cream will always be thicker and more supportive than any quality jam
That on top of the fact that cream on the pallet first reduces a taste sensation of a jam pretty much seals it
Thus regardless of preference using quality jam and cream then the jam MUST go on top unless spread like butter
Obs if one uses shit soft cream and cheap shit jelly like jam the opposite is true
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"How do you spread the jam if the cream goes on first?
I asked that earlier
Must be a secret as no one has responded to either of us
24 hours and still later nobody has said."
The heathens just dollop it on, I think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How do you spread the jam if the cream goes on first?
I asked that earlier
Must be a secret as no one has responded to either of us
24 hours and still later nobody has said."
You don't you put jam on one half the cream on the other then push together. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s jam then cream
Ohhh I’m going to get scones tomorrow 
I ordered some today
I’m going to get some strawberries too I can’t wait "
I ordered those too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s jam then cream
Ohhh I’m going to get scones tomorrow
I ordered some today
I’m going to get some strawberries too I can’t wait
Ummm, now hoping for some cream and strawberry bikini pics "
I’ll try do that |
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"It’s jam then cream
Ohhh I’m going to get scones tomorrow
I ordered some today
I’m going to get some strawberries too I can’t wait
Ummm, now hoping for some cream and strawberry bikini pics
I’ll try do that "
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"How do you spread the jam if the cream goes on first?
I asked that earlier
Must be a secret as no one has responded to either of us
24 hours and still later nobody has said."
Erm seem my post above I explained it clearly thanks
Proper clotted cream is vastly more supportive than proper less viscous jam
However the
Spread both halves an put them together only works if you eat it with a top n bottom almost impossible without
A
Dislocating the jaw
B
Squidge mess
So it's pretty clear
Those who use cheap nasty jam and cream will always jam first
Anyone who uses quality dense clotted cream will always cream first
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just. No.
Butter does not go with cream and jam.
Cream first, then jam. Because you use the cream instead of butter and would never put butter on after jam.
And this is not a debate that should raise its ugly head ever. Because like sex, it's subjective. "
I think your subjective concept here has fallen on deaf ears. You’re right but the box is now opened |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is going to get nasty!
Jam first, then cream. Anything else is just wrong.
Not of it's good jam and clotted cream that's just not possible x"
Spread each half with one side jam one side cream....
.... reassemble the scon(e) with the halves turned 180 degrees.
One side has jam on cream, other has cream on jam.... everyone's happy. |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
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"This is going to get nasty!
Jam first, then cream. Anything else is just wrong.
Not of it's good jam and clotted cream that's just not possible x"
Yes it is, I spread the good jam lol onto the scone then get my spoon and dollop the clotted cream all over the top, no need to spread just pile it high enough that it’s on your nose when biting it, perfect |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
went and had one today... had to try both ways and have to say i did prefer Cream first, then a Dollop of jam!
also decided when all this is over... i am going to go around to country trying cream tea's from various little cafe's....
it will be my new tour of britain!!! |
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"i know... first world issue here coming....
but when "one" is having a scone/"scon" (depending on which part of the country you are from... anyway that is a different arguement, not opening that pandora's box today!!!)
is it cream on first.... then jam....
or
is it jam on first.... then cream....
thank you...... discuss "
Jam and then cream x |
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then jam on top.....
