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Prices are they fare ? And why
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
In this time of equality the swinging world is no longer about cpls or single women .
Pricing in clubs seems to be advantageous to everyone except single MEN
Obviously with all the genders we have now why are single MEN still ripped off?
Is a tv and cd not a single guy in a dress
So why are they paying as a single girl which neither of them are please don’t confuse these with TS as I’m not referring to them
I’m not homophobic or transphobic in the slightest as ppl that know me will confirm
Can’t wait to hear ppls views
Remember it’s about why men should pay more than others for the same deal facilities etc 
I work in the lifestyle and I feel this is valid question
Price per person would be so much farer don’t you think |
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It would be fairer and probably should be. But the fact remains that they need to encourage women and couples so that men can have a good time too. The reality is that single men benefit from the price differences, even if they are fleeced a bit at times |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
But they don’t
Women a cpls will always come fun is never guaranteed in this world for any gender
not all single girls want to play with cpls not all cpls want to play with other cpls or single girls
Which is fact I see it during my work
But a bus company a restaurant a train service doesn’t ask you to pay more as a man nor do other services
So why should swinging clubs be allowed
Remember most clubs vet and choose the guys attending fir their etiquette and behaviour so a bigger reason not to overcharge
We like you we trust you so we give you the right for us to rip you off not a fare standing at all
All guests should be treated equally
We do it where I work and ppl who attend agree that it’s fair
Things are always changing why not our world also |
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Crikey!! 
This old chestnut.
Has it been two days already?
Has anyone said clubs would die if you charged couples and single ladies the same as men yet?
Has anyone said if you don’t like it then don’t go yet?
So many previous answers I honestly don’t know which one to pick!!
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"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men "
And there are a lot less of them.
It's a numbers game and there is no need to reduce the number of TVs or CDs.
All these answers have been repeated on here so many times and the simple answer is clubs charge so much because people will pay it. |
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Maybe a points idear eg good reviews from clubs reduces single mens prices and couples
reviews For single men reduces prices it will do two things
Give couples / single lady's. Confidence i ask them for a meet. . And may help the clubs on certain nights
Eg regular nice men who benefit from been a club cheaper paying member.
Just a idea.
Merry Christmas guys. |
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Interesting question. Just concentrating on the price per person.
Let's say the club charges £25 per person. Two couples attend or 4 single guys. Assuming we're not taking a bi night etc. The couples can swap or just play together.
If you charged the same price for single ladies as the men would they still attend in the same numbers? I can't answer as that's not our situation.
If clubs charged us £50 to attend and single men paid £25 I just don't see that working.
To achieve the same £100 in the above example: 1 couple and two single guys. 75 men to 25 women per hundred. I don't think clubs or anyone wants that ratio.
At it's simplest; I think the pricing is there to encourage couples etc not penalise men.
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"Crikey!!
This old chestnut.
Has it been two days already?
Has anyone said clubs would die if you charged couples and single ladies the same as men yet?
Has anyone said if you don’t like it then don’t go yet?
So many previous answers I honestly don’t know which one to pick!!
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No they wouldn’t I’m suggesting that prices be bought down for men
Swinging is for everyone an old chestnut something that needs to be changed
If man wears a dress your get in for a woman’s price is that right to then |
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"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business."
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that |
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"In this time of equality the swinging world is no longer about cpls or single women .
Pricing in clubs seems to be advantageous to everyone except single MEN
Obviously with all the genders we have now why are single MEN still ripped off?
Is a tv and cd not a single guy in a dress
So why are they paying as a single girl which neither of them are please don’t confuse these with TS as I’m not referring to them
I’m not homophobic or transphobic in the slightest as ppl that know me will confirm
Can’t wait to hear ppls views
Remember it’s about why men should pay more than others for the same deal facilities etc
I work in the lifestyle and I feel this is valid question
Price per person would be so much farer don’t you think "
The reason single guys pay more is because they haven't brought a "bottle" to the party  |
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"Interesting question. Just concentrating on the price per person.
Let's say the club charges £25 per person. Two couples attend or 4 single guys. Assuming we're not taking a bi night etc. The couples can swap or just play together.
If you charged the same price for single ladies as the men would they still attend in the same numbers? I can't answer as that's not our situation.
If clubs charged us £50 to attend and single men paid £25 I just don't see that working.
To achieve the same £100 in the above example: 1 couple and two single guys. 75 men to 25 women per hundred. I don't think clubs or anyone wants that ratio.
At it's simplest; I think the pricing is there to encourage couples etc not penalise men.
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So why wouldn’t it
Price per person works and is fare why should anyone be charged more for the same facilities
Bi nights also included remembering the fact CDs tvs would be charged a woman’s price
If your invitation is to vetted men the club has decided to invite they are penalised |
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"I just compare it with a night out anywhere else.
A night at my local favourite club the annex is still cheaper than most other entertainment given the byob policy"
Not every club has a byob policy
Abs remember club drink prices are not cheap |
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"Maybe a points idear eg good reviews from clubs reduces single mens prices and couples
reviews For single men reduces prices it will do two things
Give couples / single lady's. Confidence i ask them for a meet. . And may help the clubs on certain nights
Eg regular nice men who benefit from been a club cheaper paying member.
Just a idea.
Merry Christmas guys. "
A good point definitely
Thing is as a guy you’ve been vetted to attend as a single girl or couple you probably haven’t a guy can’t attend without applying
Where’s as anyone else seems to be allowed to just turn up |
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"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men
And there are a lot less of them.
It's a numbers game and there is no need to reduce the number of TVs or CDs.
So what if all the guys that night decided to turn up in dresses
Numbers are controlled anyway tv cd means extra guys not girls
All these answers have been repeated on here so many times and the simple answer is clubs charge so much because people will pay it. "
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"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business."
this fact is within all of the industry the ladies draw the men and couples
from pubs to clubs without them the industry wouldnt exist
"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men "
this is also true for the said community and whilst they do offer a service theres many men that like it
as goes for the men you have to be restrictive by just the numbers alone
you wont find many single females or couples going to a full male enviroment,
the same can be said for the trans community
yes i do agree on the membership fee as that should be the same price across the board
but on admissions you start to play with numbers and a higher price to the men
now saying all of that
if you was offering the same as a trans then your entrance fee should represent the same price as a trans
as your the attraction your offering the service to everyone
if you are found not to be, gained admission under false pretences then you deserve a ban and thrown out of the building. |
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They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that "
Oh don't worry, I know I'm the product that swingers clubs are "selling". Pretending otherwise is a bit naive imo. |
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Most clubs fall under "private members club" labels and can charge however much they want to attract one demographics and discourage another. So as it has already been said, it's more a discounted entry for women and couples than overcharging single men. Also, OP, not every single club has got the same policy, some charge men similar prices to couples.
And yes, the topic has been discussed on many occasions before and not really getting anywhere. |
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By *_Mr.K_xMan 2 days ago
North Worcestershire |
I do think that males do get the slightly rougher end of the stick. I have x2 couples memberships and my own single guys membership.
The couples memberships are 1/4 of the price of my males membership AND they're lifetime, which means I/we only have to pay the entry fee (which is also less than single males) and also, single females and couples can pretty much go whenever they like within reason, the club encourages their attendance and will not turn them away.
Single guys membership is £80.. and this is just for the year.. plus higher entry fees and restrictions on which nights/days they can go (for example, kicking out time on a Saturday night is 7:30pm) and if you just turn up, you're not guaranteed entry on any given night... based on the ratio of single ladies/couples...
So, though I understand it... it's too prevent an 'over saturation' of single guys, potentially ruining the flow of the evening. Do I think that sometimes it's a bit unfair? Yes... but it's just something that you have to live with.
It's similar to the ratio of guys vs ladies/couples on here tbf.. the rough end of the stick is dealt fairly as the few ruin the experience for the many. |
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"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that "
Often charged less and also free on some occasions |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
this fact is within all of the industry the ladies draw the men and couples
We are not talking about numbers here ratios are taken into account as I very well know
It’s entrance price we are talking about
from pubs to clubs without them the industry wouldnt exist
And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men
this is also true for the said community and whilst they do offer a service theres many men that like it
as goes for the men you have to be restrictive by just the numbers alone
you wont find many single females or couples going to a full male enviroment,
the same can be said for the trans community
yes i do agree on the membership fee as that should be the same price across the board
but on admissions you start to play with numbers and a higher price to the men
now saying all of that
if you was offering the same as a trans then your entrance fee should represent the same price as a trans
as your the attraction your offering the service to everyone
if you are found not to be, gained admission under false pretences then you deserve a ban and thrown out of the building."
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that
Often charged less and also free on some occasions "
Again why rip men off if you want them there |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
this fact is within all of the industry the ladies draw the men and couples
We are not talking about numbers here ratios are taken into account as I very well know
It’s entrance price we are talking about
from pubs to clubs without them the industry wouldnt exist
And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men
this is also true for the said community and whilst they do offer a service theres many men that like it
as goes for the men you have to be restrictive by just the numbers alone
you wont find many single females or couples going to a full male enviroment,
the same can be said for the trans community
yes i do agree on the membership fee as that should be the same price across the board
but on admissions you start to play with numbers and a higher price to the men
now saying all of that
if you was offering the same as a trans then your entrance fee should represent the same price as a trans
as your the attraction your offering the service to everyone
if you are found not to be, gained admission under false pretences then you deserve a ban and thrown out of the building."
Not talking about trans
They are separate to CDs and TVs and definitely wouldn’t want you to claw them in the same bracket |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Most clubs fall under "private members club" labels and can charge however much they want to attract one demographics and discourage another. So as it has already been said, it's more a discounted entry for women and couples than overcharging single men. Also, OP, not every single club has got the same policy, some charge men similar prices to couples.
And yes, the topic has been discussed on many occasions before and not really getting anywhere."
It’s not about discouraging anyone
If your saying that’s why club’s charge higher prices that is definitively a stupid business plan
As ppl have said they want to attract men to attend cause the women that attend are being used to tempt men to come change pricing policy and they will come
Ex
A single woman goes to a club 5 days a week at £10 a day/Night = £50
The same visits for a men would be £250
You think that’s ok
But if you put a dress on you can come as a woman I think that is an insult to men and women |
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"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that
Often charged less and also free on some occasions
Again why rip men off if you want them there "
Sadly it's a numbers game for the majority of Swingers Clubs they rely heavily on single guys but we totally agree the charges put on single guys it's way out of line compared to women Tvs etc it's got absolutely nothing to do with discrimination it's just the way it works wether you agree or not and you'll probably get the same response if you don't like it don't attend which isn't the answer to your question !! You'll probably get a clearer picture if you actually spoke to a Club owner but those are the rules in this lifestyle and it won't change all the time the demand is there |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"I do think that males do get the slightly rougher end of the stick. I have x2 couples memberships and my own single guys membership.
The couples memberships are 1/4 of the price of my males membership AND they're lifetime, which means I/we only have to pay the entry fee (which is also less than single males) and also, single females and couples can pretty much go whenever they like within reason, the club encourages their attendance and will not turn them away.
Single guys membership is £80.. and this is just for the year.. plus higher entry fees and restrictions on which nights/days they can go (for example, kicking out time on a Saturday night is 7:30pm) and if you just turn up, you're not guaranteed entry on any given night... based on the ratio of single ladies/couples...
So, though I understand it... it's too prevent an 'over saturation' of single guys, potentially ruining the flow of the evening. Do I think that sometimes it's a bit unfair? Yes... but it's just something that you have to live with.
It's similar to the ratio of guys vs ladies/couples on here tbf.. the rough end of the stick is dealt fairly as the few ruin the experience for the many. "
I’m glad you agree I’ve only ever thrown out cpls and single ladies in clubs I’ve worked and one who thought she had the right to touch me cause I was a bloke
If clubs are choosing the numbers their will never be oversaturation
I’ve seen clubs let guys in incorrectly dressed and charged them a bit more for it I watched taxi drivers allowed in who are on a break in T-shirts and trainers not greatly appreciated as seen
If guys are paying high entrance it creates a I expect attitude I wouldn’t want any one to expect this then causes potential trouble |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that
Often charged less and also free on some occasions
Again why rip men off if you want them there Sadly it's a numbers game for the majority of Swingers Clubs they rely heavily on single guys but we totally agree the charges put on single guys it's way out of line compared to women Tvs etc it's got absolutely nothing to do with discrimination it's just the way it works wether you agree or not and you'll probably get the same response if you don't like it don't attend which isn't the answer to your question !! You'll probably get a clearer picture if you actually spoke to a Club owner but those are the rules in this lifestyle and it won't change all the time the demand is there "
I work in the lifestyle I’ve chatted to plenty club owners the only answer they have is
It’s the way it’s always been
And then you get the old line of swinging was only meant to be for cpls abd single girls
Bit archaic don’t you think |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Find the place that works for you OP, or set up your own place. How would you do it and make it successful? "
I work for a very successful place in the lifestyle who charge per person and it works very well |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men
OUCH   (just like to say "we" do put a lot of money into looking like we do with outfits,make up etc etc,all for our benefits though  "
I totally understand that but that’s your choice in life
Men put alot of money into how they look also
So why should you get a benefit from a club for it
All your efforts do not make you a woman sorry to have to say it but it is a fact |
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"Do justify to me why women pay less
Same as in vanilla nightclubs as it's the women being present that encourage men to go. No women = no men = no business.
They wouldn’t be charged less at a vanilla night club and wgat your implying there is that clubs are using women as bate a prize or meat
Sure some women wouldn’t like to be used like that
Often charged less and also free on some occasions
Again why rip men off if you want them there Sadly it's a numbers game for the majority of Swingers Clubs they rely heavily on single guys but we totally agree the charges put on single guys it's way out of line compared to women Tvs etc it's got absolutely nothing to do with discrimination it's just the way it works wether you agree or not and you'll probably get the same response if you don't like it don't attend which isn't the answer to your question !! You'll probably get a clearer picture if you actually spoke to a Club owner but those are the rules in this lifestyle and it won't change all the time the demand is there
I work in the lifestyle I’ve chatted to plenty club owners the only answer they have is
It’s the way it’s always been
And then you get the old line of swinging was only meant to be for cpls abd single girls
Bit archaic don’t you think "
Totally and like I said it's just something that's always been in place which we feel is penalising single guys very unfairly and I've never got my head around why a cd TV not a fully transitioned pay a fraction of the Entry fee when the bottom line is they are a Man !! We charge the same rate for couples women men but in reality we should charge more for couples as they use more water towels etc anyway merry Christmas and keep smiling |
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By *ouple49Couple 2 days ago
Cheshire near Whitchurch, Shropshire |
Basically it means they are attending the picnic but not bringing any sandwiches themselves, so they get to pay a premium for the luxury of potentially eating what others have brought with them. |
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"Find the place that works for you OP, or set up your own place. How would you do it and make it successful?
I work for a very successful place in the lifestyle who charge per person and it works very well "
That's great to hear that there's movement and it works  |
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By *_Mr.K_xMan 2 days ago
North Worcestershire |
"Basically it means they are attending the picnic but not bringing any sandwiches themselves, so they get to pay a premium for the luxury of potentially eating what others have brought with them. "
Without no meat, there is no sandwiches... just bread 😉🤣
I love this analogy though |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Basically it means they are attending the picnic but not bringing any sandwiches themselves, so they get to pay a premium for the luxury of potentially eating what others have brought with them. "
Are they not lol
Remember women want men so they must be bringing something to the party
No men no women tbh
Doesn’t justify a higher price when u are trying to attract nice guys |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Basically it means they are attending the picnic but not bringing any sandwiches themselves, so they get to pay a premium for the luxury of potentially eating what others have brought with them.
Without no meat, there is no sandwiches... just bread 😉🤣
I love this analogy though"
Exactly |
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"Maybe a points idear eg good reviews from clubs reduces single mens prices and couples
reviews For single men reduces prices it will do two things
Give couples / single lady's. Confidence i ask them for a meet. . And may help the clubs on certain nights
Eg regular nice men who benefit from been a club cheaper paying member.
Just a idea.
Merry Christmas guys.
A good point definitely
Thing is as a guy you’ve been vetted to attend as a single girl or couple you probably haven’t a guy can’t attend without applying
Where’s as anyone else seems to be allowed to just turn up "
I can name lots of clubs where men just turn up..no vetting at all |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Why are people (men not including the ones in frocks) paying these extortionate prices?
If someone told me I have to pay multiples of someone rise to attend their venue I’d tell them to jog on "
Exactly my thoughts it’s unfair
Women seemed to be used as meat to attract then cpls saying they bring nothing to the party
So should pay premium
Unfortunately I’d like to say no cock available the women won’t come either |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Maybe a points idear eg good reviews from clubs reduces single mens prices and couples
reviews For single men reduces prices it will do two things
Give couples / single lady's. Confidence i ask them for a meet. . And may help the clubs on certain nights
Eg regular nice men who benefit from been a club cheaper paying member.
Just a idea.
Merry Christmas guys.
A good point definitely
Thing is as a guy you’ve been vetted to attend as a single girl or couple you probably haven’t a guy can’t attend without applying
Where’s as anyone else seems to be allowed to just turn up
I can name lots of clubs where men just turn up..no vetting at all"
Not a club to attend then tbh all guests should be vetted
There is bad in all out there |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"Clubs are mostly a business, the volume of single fellas lends them to being exploited - not saying it's right it's just business and while there's plenty willing to pay it won't change "
Clubs should value all their guests equally they need them all for it to work |
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
Aldershot |
"I like to see my cheap entry as a small slice of the world where I'm compensated for having to live in a patriarchal society.  "
Why should you be compensated for attending a club you wish to attend
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"Most clubs fall under "private members club" labels and can charge however much they want to attract one demographics and discourage another. So as it has already been said, it's more a discounted entry for women and couples than overcharging single men. Also, OP, not every single club has got the same policy, some charge men similar prices to couples.
And yes, the topic has been discussed on many occasions before and not really getting anywhere.
It’s not about discouraging anyone
If your saying that’s why club’s charge higher prices that is definitively a stupid business plan
As ppl have said they want to attract men to attend cause the women that attend are being used to tempt men to come change pricing policy and they will come
Ex
A single woman goes to a club 5 days a week at £10 a day/Night = £50
The same visits for a men would be £250
You think that’s ok
But if you put a dress on you can come as a woman I think that is an insult to men and women "
I personally do not agree with TVs and CDs being charged the same entry fees as neither men nor women as they are neither, they are a separate category. Therefore, their entry fees should have been different. |
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By *elkieWoman 2 days ago
Durham |
"Basically it means they are attending the picnic but not bringing any sandwiches themselves, so they get to pay a premium for the luxury of potentially eating what others have brought with them.
Are they not lol
Remember women want men so they must be bringing something to the party
No men no women tbh
Doesn’t justify a higher price when u are trying to attract nice guys "
What if women are exploring swinging to play with other women?
I don’t like pricing where a coupled woman effectively goes free, but a single woman still pays. My neck of the woods, couples and single men pay the same and single women pay about £10. |
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By *yggaMan 2 days ago
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"In this time of equality the swinging world is no longer about cpls or single women .
Pricing in clubs seems to be advantageous to everyone except single MEN
Obviously with all the genders we have now why are single MEN still ripped off?
Is a tv and cd not a single guy in a dress
So why are they paying as a single girl which neither of them are please don’t confuse these with TS as I’m not referring to them
I’m not homophobic or transphobic in the slightest as ppl that know me will confirm
Can’t wait to hear ppls views
Remember it’s about why men should pay more than others for the same deal facilities etc
I work in the lifestyle and I feel this is valid question
Price per person would be so much farer don’t you think "
I like your boldness and braveness. If most men love themselves and know their high worth, the prices this clubs/private parties charge will be fair, and the swinging business will still thrive. |
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"I like to see my cheap entry as a small slice of the world where I'm compensated for having to live in a patriarchal society.
Why should you be compensated for attending a club you wish to attend
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Think you missed the gentle sarcasm in the original comment. |
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Supply and demand basic economics at play here.
Our regular club is the Attic, the price differential between man/couples/women is closer than most.
£35 men, £20 couples/CS/TV, £15 single ladies
They limit number of guys, can only enter between 8-11pm if there aren’t enough couples or single ladies in then numbers of men are reduced.
So there is a limitation of supply, and a high demand, so guys are charged accordingly, just like surge pricing at hotels and uber etc etc.
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"Maybe a points idear eg good reviews from clubs reduces single mens prices and couples
reviews For single men reduces prices it will do two things
Give couples / single lady's. Confidence i ask them for a meet. . And may help the clubs on certain nights
Eg regular nice men who benefit from been a club cheaper paying member.
Just a idea.
Merry Christmas guys.
A good point definitely
Thing is as a guy you’ve been vetted to attend as a single girl or couple you probably haven’t a guy can’t attend without applying
Where’s as anyone else seems to be allowed to just turn up
I can name lots of clubs where men just turn up..no vetting at all
Not a club to attend then tbh all guests should be vetted
There is bad in all out there "
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Isn't the wider issue of equality in society in general the problem here?
If we lived in a more liberated, less judgemental society and one in which male violence was a thing of the past, more women would feel able to enjoy a sex positive environment and enjoy their sexuality. This would then mean no need for an unequal pricing structure.
Of course we also need to recognise the gender pay gap as well. Which on current trends will take until at least 2051 (if we ever get there) to get equal pay between men and women.
So I guess what I'm saying is we need to sort out gender equality first |
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"Isn't the wider issue of equality in society in general the problem here?
If we lived in a more liberated, less judgemental society and one in which male violence was a thing of the past, more women would feel able to enjoy a sex positive environment and enjoy their sexuality. This would then mean no need for an unequal pricing structure.
Of course we also need to recognise the gender pay gap as well. Which on current trends will take until at least 2051 (if we ever get there) to get equal pay between men and women.
So I guess what I'm saying is we need to sort out gender equality first "
Or maybe you are just over thinking it. Clubs are, generally, about making money and that's pretty much it. |
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"Isn't the wider issue of equality in society in general the problem here?
If we lived in a more liberated, less judgemental society and one in which male violence was a thing of the past, more women would feel able to enjoy a sex positive environment and enjoy their sexuality. This would then mean no need for an unequal pricing structure.
Of course we also need to recognise the gender pay gap as well. Which on current trends will take until at least 2051 (if we ever get there) to get equal pay between men and women.
So I guess what I'm saying is we need to sort out gender equality first "
I was *really* flippant about it, but this sort of thing is exactly what I meant with my comment about enjoying my cheap entry as a reward for existing with patriarchy. You're spot on Matt. |
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"Most clubs fall under "private members club" labels and can charge however much they want to attract one demographics and discourage another. So as it has already been said, it's more a discounted entry for women and couples than overcharging single men. Also, OP, not every single club has got the same policy, some charge men similar prices to couples.
And yes, the topic has been discussed on many occasions before and not really getting anywhere.
It’s not about discouraging anyone
If your saying that’s why club’s charge higher prices that is definitively a stupid business plan
As ppl have said they want to attract men to attend cause the women that attend are being used to tempt men to come change pricing policy and they will come
Ex
A single woman goes to a club 5 days a week at £10 a day/Night = £50
The same visits for a men would be £250
You think that’s ok
But if you put a dress on you can come as a woman I think that is an insult to men and women
I personally do not agree with TVs and CDs being charged the same entry fees as neither men nor women as they are neither, they are a separate category. Therefore, their entry fees should have been different. "
Tvs and CDs are men fact
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
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"Isn't the wider issue of equality in society in general the problem here?
If we lived in a more liberated, less judgemental society and one in which male violence was a thing of the past, more women would feel able to enjoy a sex positive environment and enjoy their sexuality. This would then mean no need for an unequal pricing structure.
Of course we also need to recognise the gender pay gap as well. Which on current trends will take until at least 2051 (if we ever get there) to get equal pay between men and women.
So I guess what I'm saying is we need to sort out gender equality first
Or maybe you are just over thinking it. Clubs are, generally, about making money and that's pretty much it. "
See I’m going to hit you with equality now there are plenty of violent women about prisons prove that
gender pay gaps definitely not
There are plenty women that earn more than men my boss is a woman she would say you choose your job
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I understand why this question is raised and all the arguments around equality and fairness etc.
But ultimately the key points as I see it are 1) the club is a business and is free to set its own charging policy. 2) Single men are free to decide to go or not, so it's their decision, if they don't like it, don't go, which then leaves the club open to review its prices if it loses custom. 3) i think couples should get a discount v 2 individuals as they are a 'single' entry albeit of two people.
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By *attoed OP Man 2 days ago
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"I understand why this question is raised and all the arguments around equality and fairness etc.
But ultimately the key points as I see it are 1) the club is a business and is free to set its own charging policy. 2) Single men are free to decide to go or not, so it's their decision, if they don't like it, don't go, which then leaves the club open to review its prices if it loses custom. 3) i think couples should get a discount v 2 individuals as they are a 'single' entry albeit of two people.
Talking about bringing men’s prices Down
I wouldn’t expect a club to put cpls and fem prices up mind you some have recently
But again a cpl is 2 ppl
So hence me saying price per person would be all fare then
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What works in one club may not work financially for another club.
At the end of the day you can complain until you're blue in the face and you will not get an answer that satisfies you.
These private clubs are free to choose whichever entry policy they want, leaving everyone free to choose whether to attend.
The reality is there are always more than enough single men willing to pay higher rates.
The fact that the club you work at are successful with their entry policy can't dictate how another business in a different city ( with different rates, licence, rent, insurance, staff costs) runs theirs.
A slightly different but equally valid question is why limit the numbers? Surely if your club is so fair it should be a free for all and not limit the single men numbers. If i can find a club that doesn't limit single men should you have to let them all in? |
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Prices for men have been higher for as long as I have been swinging, its just the way it is and offers a level of number control. If the price point is too high, don't go.
Can I also point out tht in Europe, single male prices are significantly higher; over €120 in most clubs. |
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All legit answers and a point to add, pricing high is a known strategy to keep riff raff out.
As unfair as it seems, it is similar to vanilla nightclubs who will often pick and choose who they are letting in on the night.
Forum arguments are not going to make an iota of difference, vote with your feet and encourage others to do the same. Clubs will have no option but to reduce entrance fees. |
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Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices. |
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By *attoed OP Man 1 day ago
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices. "
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices.
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
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By *attoed OP Man 1 day ago
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices.
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
Blah blah, noise noise, blah blah"
Bit of a childish response don’t you think
I thought everyone were adults on here |
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices.
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
Blah blah, noise noise, blah blah
Bit of a childish response don’t you think
I thought everyone were adults on here "
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By *attoed OP Man 1 day ago
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices.
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
Blah blah, noise noise, blah blah
Bit of a childish response don’t you think
I thought everyone were adults on here
Lol"
Obviously a cpl that believes swinging is for cpls and girls only this is what single guys are up against ppl that are stuck in the old ways some equality there
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"Not reading all the other posts so apologies if repeating others’ views.
In one sense it is very unfair that guys get charged more. It’s prejudiced as the same product received (ie entry to a club) where nothing is guaranteed anyway.
Do I agree with men being charged more? YES. Absolutely.
1. It’s a business. Clubs can charge what they want. Supply and demand all all that.
2. The clubs need to encourage more single women and couples so from a business model they get to pay less.
3. We personally don’t want to attend a sausage fest so if pricing puts men off then it doesn’t impact us; it suits us if anything. We know some couples love single men so appreciate this view isn’t for everyone.
Probably not the reason you’d want or like but that’s only our perspective.
There are always threads on this and single men getting ripped off etc. and the simple solution is don’t attend if you disagree with prices.
All guests are equal as you say so why should they be charged more
Why would you want to discourage ppl not to attend number ratios are always worked out so it wouldn’t be a sausage fest
Put it on the other foot your a cpl 2ppl why shouldn’t you be charged more as your using the facilities in a double capacity
So if there’s a spa for instance you as a cpl are using double what the single guy is
Plus not all single women want to play with cpls
All perspectives need to be looked at
Why do ppl think they are entitled to more than others for less the lifestyle is fir everyone
It’s no longer the cpls single girls keys in the bowl we’ve moved on from these times haven’t we
Yes you can choose wether you go or not but that is a choice made by all
But remember if I turn up in a dress I can present as a single lady when I’m clearly not I’m a cock in a frock
Blah blah, noise noise, blah blah
Bit of a childish response don’t you think
I thought everyone were adults on here "
But this, like every time this is discussed, is going around in circles because you don't seem to understand that lots of people don't agree with your viewpoint.
Plenty of responses have explained the opposite view, you don't agree, we can all move forward. Everyone can go to the club that suits them and pay or not pay the entrance fee. |
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Had you absorbed my post, you’d appreciate we acknowledged it’s unfair. Two people means two facilities etc. we get it…. but then also two lots of drinks so overall a more costly night and more money put in behind the bar.
But nail on the head with your final comment. Each to their own and we have spoken to some good lads socially at clubs but where possible we avoid nights they are there.
You just sound a bit salty tbh. Again, bite with your feet or get on a dating app or get some brass if you’re so upset about it.
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By *attoed OP Man 1 day ago
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"Had you absorbed my post, you’d appreciate we acknowledged it’s unfair. Two people means two facilities etc. we get it…. but then also two lots of drinks so overall a more costly night and more money put in behind the bar.
But nail on the head with your final comment. Each to their own and we have spoken to some good lads socially at clubs but where possible we avoid nights they are there.
You just sound a bit salty tbh. Again, bite with your feet or get on a dating app or get some brass if you’re so upset about it.
Salty
Errr
I don’t need to be on a dating app I’m fine working in the lifestyle but agreeing
Then say men should be discouraged is contradicting yourself
It’s a question in a forum and I asking it on behalf of men so what is the issue are you saying we have no right to ask
Have a good Xmas. "
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OP you say thr club you attend has no gender pricing. What is this clubs name?
I know the kink world has no gender pricing.
Swinging does, whether right or wrong.
Imagine the scenario where as a straight male you attend a club that charges every gender say £30 (which is my local clubs male entry price for a non member).
So a MF Couple would be £60 and singles would be £30 regardless of gender.
As you enter, no Couples nor single genetic females have attended. Would you be happy?
Some clubs with say Females entry at free, £5 or £10 are not inundated with single females at that price.
You can't f0rce people to attend, so private member clubs will have a pricing policy that encourages and allows ALL genders to attend at affordable prices so that the overall party has correct ratios for an enjoyable party.
The two options are attend or not. As simple as that.
And for reference, the correct etiquetteregards trans/TV: if you present as a female, then expect to be treated as a female, including pricing is my clubs stand. This is a spot on policy and nights are catered accordingly for all people's specific wants/desires.
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Having been attending clubs for the past 25 years we think it's fair to say that it was back then as it is now. Using the facilities has nothing to do with it, it's about money, it really is that simple. Like it or not men, in general, are happy to pay what they need to if they think they are, or might, get laid. Of course most men who attend rarely achive this. It will never change, most men think with there penis first and head second and the club owners know and exploit the fact. Business is business, an unavoidable fact. It's no different to selling anything, you don't sell the product, you sell the dream. |
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The fact of the matter is that a LOT (not all) of men in the lifestyle don't know the correct way to behave, they assume because they're at a club they are going to get laid just for being there. From how your first post reads, it comes across that you think single men should be paying the same as women, so let's say hypothetically clubs lower their entry prices to match. The number of these Wanking Dead would increase massively, which puts a lot (again, not all)women and couples off from going. Soon, you only have men going, who then stop going because there's no women going. The pricing system is actually beneficial as it s out a vast majority (again again, not all) of the Wanking Dead who aren't actually prepared to make an effort |
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By *attoed OP Man 24 hours ago
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"OP you say thr club you attend has no gender pricing. What is this clubs name?
I know the kink world has no gender pricing.
Swinging does, whether right or wrong.
Imagine the scenario where as a straight male you attend a club that charges every gender say £30 (which is my local clubs male entry price for a non member).
So a MF Couple would be £60 and singles would be £30 regardless of gender.
As you enter, no Couples nor single genetic females have attended. Would you be happy?
Some clubs with say Females entry at free, £5 or £10 are not inundated with single females at that price.
You can't f0rce people to attend, so private member clubs will have a pricing policy that encourages and allows ALL genders to attend at affordable prices so that the overall party has correct ratios for an enjoyable party.
The two options are attend or not. As simple as that.
And for reference, the correct etiquetteregards trans/TV: if you present as a female, then expect to be treated as a female, including pricing is my clubs stand. This is a spot on policy and nights are catered accordingly for all people's specific wants/desires.
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Tvs CDs are not trans let’s get that correct first please
I work for a adult party planer who currently have 2 venues one midlands one Essex we charge per person it works we are very successful
If there are 2 of you you pay simply how ppm can say it’s not fair when it obviously is is beyond me a lot of comments have said mens prices are high to discourage them to attend obviously mostly from cpls who only like fems
Fems lije single guys to
They don’t all want to be forced to have to play with cpls If they desire a bit of fun
I’ve also had lots of girls question why there is no guts at parties or clubs on some nights
Guests in clubs are their bread a butter yes
But all guests are so should be treated the same
I had clubs tell me they don’t give a fuck about guys
They should there money is as good as everyone else’s but be fare you don’t get charged more as a man in vanilla world so why should clubs be different
Also at lot of clubs used covid to restart
Even closing lifetime memberships that ppl had paid for and recharged them for new memberships don’t bite the hand that feeds you springs to mind
And a negative review hurts
Our parties are open to every gender we do ratios for all our parties so you are never top heavy on any
If you go to a club or party nothing is expected or guaranteed or should be expected
You go there to enjoy the night if play happens it happens if it doesn’t you should still have a great night
Yes you can choose where you go
I’m saying that most guys are vetted as we do before they are allowed to attend so we class them as respectful and nice guys why should they be reprimanded for that surely they should be rewarded
To go back to tv cd I get that some make an effort and spend money to look good but some don’t and use it to gain cheap entry
Men also spend money to look good it is the individual choice to spend money to look good not the clubs
So why reprimand a nice sejected vetted guy
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Couple and single female only club nights are far more popular at every club we've been to, in the 6 years we've been swinging, attendance is always down when single guys are invited so in order to make up the money from the comparatively low turn out the single men get charged more, that's how we've always seen it and it makes sense. |
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"OP you say thr club you attend has no gender pricing. What is this clubs name?
I know the kink world has no gender pricing.
Swinging does, whether right or wrong.
Imagine the scenario where as a straight male you attend a club that charges every gender say £30 (which is my local clubs male entry price for a non member).
So a MF Couple would be £60 and singles would be £30 regardless of gender.
As you enter, no Couples nor single genetic females have attended. Would you be happy?
Some clubs with say Females entry at free, £5 or £10 are not inundated with single females at that price.
You can't f0rce people to attend, so private member clubs will have a pricing policy that encourages and allows ALL genders to attend at affordable prices so that the overall party has correct ratios for an enjoyable party.
The two options are attend or not. As simple as that.
And for reference, the correct etiquetteregards trans/TV: if you present as a female, then expect to be treated as a female, including pricing is my clubs stand. This is a spot on policy and nights are catered accordingly for all people's specific wants/desires.
Tvs CDs are not trans let’s get that correct first please
I work for a adult party planer who currently have 2 venues one midlands one Essex we charge per person it works we are very successful
If there are 2 of you you pay simply how ppm can say it’s not fair when it obviously is is beyond me a lot of comments have said mens prices are high to discourage them to attend obviously mostly from cpls who only like fems
Fems lije single guys to
They don’t all want to be forced to have to play with cpls If they desire a bit of fun
I’ve also had lots of girls question why there is no guts at parties or clubs on some nights
Guests in clubs are their bread a butter yes
But all guests are so should be treated the same
I had clubs tell me they don’t give a fuck about guys
They should there money is as good as everyone else’s but be fare you don’t get charged more as a man in vanilla world so why should clubs be different
Also at lot of clubs used covid to restart
Even closing lifetime memberships that ppl had paid for and recharged them for new memberships don’t bite the hand that feeds you springs to mind
And a negative review hurts
Our parties are open to every gender we do ratios for all our parties so you are never top heavy on any
If you go to a club or party nothing is expected or guaranteed or should be expected
You go there to enjoy the night if play happens it happens if it doesn’t you should still have a great night
Yes you can choose where you go
I’m saying that most guys are vetted as we do before they are allowed to attend so we class them as respectful and nice guys why should they be reprimanded for that surely they should be rewarded
To go back to tv cd I get that some make an effort and spend money to look good but some don’t and use it to gain cheap entry
Men also spend money to look good it is the individual choice to spend money to look good not the clubs
So why reprimand a nice sejected vetted guy
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No, Couples and single females tend to be Saturdays and single guys Fridays in the ones we've visited and most times on the Saturdays it's so busy you can barely get to the bar but Fridays are completely dead, I know an awful lot of people who specifically don't attend on the single guys nights due to how uncomfortable they feel around them. |
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I'm curious, are you talking about the house parties at oakhouse? Is that a registered club with all the associated legal expenses a club has or is it effectively a house party at a private residence?
If so we're not really comparing like for like; what works for a house won't necessarily work for a club that's open every day with all the running costs. |
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By *piceyMan 23 hours ago
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"OP you say thr club you attend has no gender pricing. What is this clubs name?
I know the kink world has no gender pricing.
Swinging does, whether right or wrong.
Imagine the scenario where as a straight male you attend a club that charges every gender say £30 (which is my local clubs male entry price for a non member).
So a MF Couple would be £60 and singles would be £30 regardless of gender.
As you enter, no Couples nor single genetic females have attended. Would you be happy?
Some clubs with say Females entry at free, £5 or £10 are not inundated with single females at that price.
You can't f0rce people to attend, so private member clubs will have a pricing policy that encourages and allows ALL genders to attend at affordable prices so that the overall party has correct ratios for an enjoyable party.
The two options are attend or not. As simple as that.
And for reference, the correct etiquetteregards trans/TV: if you present as a female, then expect to be treated as a female, including pricing is my clubs stand. This is a spot on policy and nights are catered accordingly for all people's specific wants/desires.
Tvs CDs are not trans let’s get that correct first please
I work for a adult party planer who currently have 2 venues one midlands one Essex we charge per person it works we are very successful
If there are 2 of you you pay simply how ppm can say it’s not fair when it obviously is is beyond me a lot of comments have said mens prices are high to discourage them to attend obviously mostly from cpls who only like fems
Fems lije single guys to
They don’t all want to be forced to have to play with cpls If they desire a bit of fun
I’ve also had lots of girls question why there is no guts at parties or clubs on some nights
Guests in clubs are their bread a butter yes
But all guests are so should be treated the same
I had clubs tell me they don’t give a fuck about guys
They should there money is as good as everyone else’s but be fare you don’t get charged more as a man in vanilla world so why should clubs be different
Also at lot of clubs used covid to restart
Even closing lifetime memberships that ppl had paid for and recharged them for new memberships don’t bite the hand that feeds you springs to mind
And a negative review hurts
Our parties are open to every gender we do ratios for all our parties so you are never top heavy on any
If you go to a club or party nothing is expected or guaranteed or should be expected
You go there to enjoy the night if play happens it happens if it doesn’t you should still have a great night
Yes you can choose where you go
I’m saying that most guys are vetted as we do before they are allowed to attend so we class them as respectful and nice guys why should they be reprimanded for that surely they should be rewarded
To go back to tv cd I get that some make an effort and spend money to look good but some don’t and use it to gain cheap entry
Men also spend money to look good it is the individual choice to spend money to look good not the clubs
So why reprimand a nice sejected vetted guy
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Why can you not name these clubs??
Re Trans, TV, correction isn’t needed no one stated them as the same. Genders are unique to the person.
Im saying identify them as they identify. Very simple!
Other than that most people have nailed reality.
I’ve read your waffle and it seems that you’ve had a bad experience or trying to justify the pricing of these mysterious un named venues.
I’d say that every club values every customer regardless of gender as long as they stick to the club rules and lifestyle etiquettes.
In fact I would argue your stance regards men. Good men are very much wanted by clubs and treated inline with the pricing policy and tend to fair very well by club owners, staff etc |
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By *piceyMan 22 hours ago
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"Because there not clubs they are private parties"
And therefore has to admit his post not true in the comparison highlighted, whilst trying not to reveal to the tax man on party money received maybe. Apart from this post, now seems to have done exactly that and outed these parties to the those local authorities. Whoops! |
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"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men "
Yeah but we usually have to fork out for all the makeup, stockings, condoms/prep, lube. Then hours getting ready. And in my experience most tgirls are at clubs to take on the femme role, not to try and get a discount.
Tbh it's cheaper to go as a guy than put in all the effort to transform.
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By *attoed OP Man 22 hours ago
Aldershot |
"And also why TVs and CDs pay the same as women
Remember they are Men
Yeah but we usually have to fork out for all the makeup, stockings, condoms/prep, lube. Then hours getting ready. And in my experience most tgirls are at clubs to take on the femme role, not to try and get a discount.
Tbh it's cheaper to go as a guy than put in all the effort to transform.
That is your choice and I’m not knocking it
Men like others spend money to look and smell nice to and also put effort in
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By *attoed OP Man 21 hours ago
Aldershot |
"OP you say thr club you attend has no gender pricing. What is this clubs name?
I know the kink world has no gender pricing.
Swinging does, whether right or wrong.
Imagine the scenario where as a straight male you attend a club that charges every gender say £30 (which is my local clubs male entry price for a non member).
So a MF Couple would be £60 and singles would be £30 regardless of gender.
As you enter, no Couples nor single genetic females have attended. Would you be happy?
Some clubs with say Females entry at free, £5 or £10 are not inundated with single females at that price.
You can't f0rce people to attend, so private member clubs will have a pricing policy that encourages and allows ALL genders to attend at affordable prices so that the overall party has correct ratios for an enjoyable party.
The two options are attend or not. As simple as that.
And for reference, the correct etiquetteregards trans/TV: if you present as a female, then expect to be treated as a female, including pricing is my clubs stand. This is a spot on policy and nights are catered accordingly for all people's specific wants/desires.
Tvs CDs are not trans let’s get that correct first please
I work for a adult party planer who currently have 2 venues one midlands one Essex we charge per person it works we are very successful
If there are 2 of you you pay simply how ppm can say it’s not fair when it obviously is is beyond me a lot of comments have said mens prices are high to discourage them to attend obviously mostly from cpls who only like fems
Fems lije single guys to
They don’t all want to be forced to have to play with cpls If they desire a bit of fun
I’ve also had lots of girls question why there is no guts at parties or clubs on some nights
Guests in clubs are their bread a butter yes
But all guests are so should be treated the same
I had clubs tell me they don’t give a fuck about guys
They should there money is as good as everyone else’s but be fare you don’t get charged more as a man in vanilla world so why should clubs be different
Also at lot of clubs used covid to restart
Even closing lifetime memberships that ppl had paid for and recharged them for new memberships don’t bite the hand that feeds you springs to mind
And a negative review hurts
Our parties are open to every gender we do ratios for all our parties so you are never top heavy on any
If you go to a club or party nothing is expected or guaranteed or should be expected
You go there to enjoy the night if play happens it happens if it doesn’t you should still have a great night
Yes you can choose where you go
I’m saying that most guys are vetted as we do before they are allowed to attend so we class them as respectful and nice guys why should they be reprimanded for that surely they should be rewarded
To go back to tv cd I get that some make an effort and spend money to look good but some don’t and use it to gain cheap entry
Men also spend money to look good it is the individual choice to spend money to look good not the clubs
So why reprimand a nice sejected vetted guy
Why can you not name these clubs??
Re Trans, TV, correction isn’t needed no one stated them as the same. Genders are unique to the person.
Im saying identify them as they identify. Very simple!
Other than that most people have nailed reality.
I’ve read your waffle and it seems that you’ve had a bad experience or trying to justify the pricing of these mysterious un named venues.
I’d say that every club values every customer regardless of gender as long as they stick to the club rules and lifestyle etiquettes.
In fact I would argue your stance regards men. Good men are very much wanted by clubs and treated inline with the pricing policy and tend to fair very well by club owners, staff etc"
I don’t need to name clubs it wasn’t the intention of the question
And saying it’s waffle
It’s fact maybe it’s not a question you have liked but again we are allowed to ask if you were paying a higher premium you’d ask to
Nothing to do with my experience and no I haven’t had a bad experience I ask questions that some ppl don’t like to hear but they are still justified
I work at venues my choice of club when I’m not working I have not mentioned either
If ppl have a problem with a club it’s usually done on the reviews page when’s a they’ve attended |
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By *attoed OP Man 21 hours ago
Aldershot |
"Because there not clubs they are private parties
And therefore has to admit his post not true in the comparison highlighted, whilst trying not to reveal to the tax man on party money received maybe. Apart from this post, now seems to have done exactly that and outed these parties to the those local authorities. Whoops!"
I’ve outed no one and if you speak to party planners they are usually classed as a business so they fall into the same remit
Parties clubs all the same tbh they are usually held in a venue that has to be paid for
Simple question to start really I’ve only answered will ppl have taken it |
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By *attoed OP Man 21 hours ago
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"Because there not clubs they are private parties"
I’ve seen private parties charge more than clubs but as you know they are mostly daytime parties with paid girls
The question was regarding clubs and parties |
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OP, yourself anti pricing discretion as a method of balancing a fair attendance at clubs. Yet you yourself say you 'vet' blokes before admittance. So you are making a judgement based on your opinion who should fain entry or not. Is that fair? Who's to say your opinion is right?
Variable pricing is just a well tried mechanism for getting attendance managed and workable at venues.
Ultimately it's all economics. If the club doesn't desire extra single guys, maybe because they don't want the income, or perhaps they don't want the extra aggravation of managing the herd then it will price appropriately.
The only downside is managing the 'entitlement 'factor, I've paid so I'm getting laid mentality. But thankfully I think this is relatively rare.
If the club needs to boost numbers then it can discount or reduce entry, but this itself isn't a guarantee of success.
At the end of the day you may not like it, so don't go. Everyone has a choice.
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"Because there not clubs they are private parties
I’ve seen private parties charge more than clubs but as you know they are mostly daytime parties with paid girls
The question was regarding clubs and parties "
Girls paid for what? Being paid doesn't sound like swinging.
Some people pay more for electricity, water, gas than some others; is that fair? That's the way the world is.
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Yes they're fair. If you think that's unjust, imagine living in 2025 and still not getting paid as much as your peers because you don't have a penis.
Now, can you please put some of this ire into getting equal pay for women?
No...didn't think so  |
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"Why are people (men not including the ones in frocks) paying these extortionate prices?
If someone told me I have to pay multiples of someone rise to attend their venue I’d tell them to jog on
Exactly my thoughts it’s unfair
Women seemed to be used as meat to attract then cpls saying they bring nothing to the party
So should pay premium
Unfortunately I’d like to say no cock available the women won’t come either "
As a straight woman I wouldn't attend if there were no single guys. Also agree that single guys are fleeced with entry fees and memberships at some clubs.
Clubs get away with it only because the guys are paying. If they stopped then clubs would have to amend the pricing structures.
Sadly I fear it would end up being the more desperate guys paying for action who would still pay...and so the cycle continues |
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"Yes they're fair. If you think that's unjust, imagine living in 2025 and still not getting paid as much as your peers because you don't have a penis.
Now, can you please put some of this ire into getting equal pay for women?
No...didn't think so "
really! so me mr,and you in the same job and same hours per week would get different pay in a national minimal wage job?
No...didn't think so
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This is an exclusively straight swinger club thing.
Fetish clubs charge everyone the same.
Gay saunas charge everyone the same.
Queer events usually charge everyone the same.
And I guess it comes down to the fact that in a straight swinger club a most men will go and just hang around trying to pursue women/couples, they won’t play with each other. So if they aren’t charged extra or their numbers limited you just get a lot of men hanging around doing nothing. |
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By *aciamiCouple 5 hours ago
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I think the clue is in the title. Swingers club. They are clubs defined for swingers.
The term, Swingers relates to wife swapping. And so the clubs are there primarily to cater for this.
Yes single men are welcome and desired in some nights, as are single women. But single men are not in demand as much as single women and so then it comes down to economics - supply and demand.
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