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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I have been in 2 minds whether to post this or not but seens as I am not the person to ever talk to anyone close to me I just wanted a bit of an outlet really.

I've suffered with depression/ anxiety off and on for years since having PND after having my second baby 9 years ago. I've been on and off anti depressants but have managed without them for over a year now and don't want to go backwards. Recently though.... especially the past couple of months the anxiety is really starting to get on top of me. I just seem to get random onsets of shaking, panicking and crying for no particular reason in random places and it feels like I can't breathe and it's making me nervous to go out without company but I also hate being in the house on my own, as it only ever seems to happen if I'm on my own. As long as I'm busy and have company I seem to be fine. I've cut right back on the alcohol when at home as I seemed to be using it to "steady my nerves" so now only tend to drink once/twice a week as opposed to every day. I don't really want to go back down the medical route unless I get to a point where I absolutely have to but it's getting to a point where it is impacting on my day to day life quite significantly. Not expecting a miracle solution but if anyone has been where I am and can offer any tips or advice I would be more than grateful. Diolch xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hi Missp sorry to hear your suffering. Listen I have been on anti depressants for years having tried many times to come off them the GP decided I should be on them on a permanent basis. Touch wood I'm feeling pretty good right now. Sounds to me like yours is pretty severe could even be panick attacks. There is no shame in taking anti depressants if they help you function from day to day. My advice, for what it's worth, go back to your GP get some help. If you dont want to go down the anti depressants route you could try counselling first (didn't work for me but works for some). Anyway, all the best hope you get a good outcome, just don't suffer in silence.

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By *andis funWoman over a year ago

forest of dreams

"Hi Missp sorry to hear your suffering. Listen I have been on anti depressants for years having tried many times to come off them the GP decided I should be on them on a permanent basis. Touch wood I'm feeling pretty good right now. Sounds to me like yours is pretty severe could even be panick attacks. There is no shame in taking anti depressants if they help you function from day to day. My advice, for what it's worth, go back to your GP get some help. If you dont want to go down the anti depressants route you could try counselling first (didn't work for me but works for some). Anyway, all the best hope you get a good outcome, just don't suffer in silence.

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agree completely xxx look after yourself pills or not its what you need that matters... xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Had my say in person.

Love you miss p xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would echo what others said ... there is no shame in using tried and tested medication to get yourself back on an even keel. So many people from all walks of life suffer in this way and it can be so debilitating once you hit a low. Medication can even out the peaks and troughs.

You don't have to be strong all by yourself honey. You have a caring community here who love you to bits. ... keep talking and listening.

You've taken the first big step in opening up. ... well done. Xx

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By *uby and RavenCouple (FF) over a year ago

Chelmsford

100% sounds like panic attacks to me.

Raven has been in a very similar situation since she was 18. On and off. Worsening PND, and PTSD from the birth.

What I would say is a couple of things;

Firstly, the brain Is an organ like any other. If you were suffering from kidney failure or whatever, you would take the medication the doctors thought best for you and your health.

Panic attacks and lots of other mental illness is from the brain not sending the correct signals- it's a medical problem that needs medication to fix. It could be that it's mis-firing extra adrenaline, or not producing enough. Same with serotonin etc.

Secondly, if there is history of something that needs to be addressed, then speak to your doc about NLP. Talking therapies are available in Wales on the NHS.

Finally. If you broke your leg, you wouldn't be expected to just carry on. And you wouldn't do it to yourself either. Your brain is one of the most important parts of you. Just because we can't see the hurt and pain, doesn't mean it isn't there. Please speak to the doctor xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Inboxed you butty.

PLEASE READ and take note. xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Medication didn't work for me. It just made me numb and the side effects outweighed the benefits for me personally which makes me reluctant to go back down that route

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

The biggest step is admitting you have a problem, and now you have done that, you have started the process of recovery. I'm no expert, I've had low periods but I don't think I can claim that I've really been depressed, but I do know family members who have.

There's lots of good advice on here, first step is to talk to those who know the subject, and take it from there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Get back to the doctors and speak to them..as someone else has said above, there are many people from all walks of life who are taking anti depressants for one reason or another, you're not alone hun. Have you thought about hypnotherapy?? Or even some kind of mindfulness therapy.

Hope you get sorted hun , it's not a nice place to be in xx

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Brave post Miss P.

I've had a terrible, on-going battle with anxiety over the years.

Like you, I am not a fan of anti-depressants. I accept that many people swear by them, that they help people and that some people should take them. I had horrible side effects though and can't face taking any of them, even though I know they are not all the same.

For me, exercise and fresh air are the only things that help me get a hold on things. I appreciate it may be difficult when you have kids and a job, but a lengthy, strenuous walk is a massive help for me.

The best bit of advice I ever had about anxiety came from Claire Weekes, a psychologist who wrote influential books on the subject decades ago. We tend to fight fear. That only adds to the problem and ramps things up. Don't fight, just "accept". If you're in an anxious state, accept it and tell yourself it will pass in time. It's a powerful concept.

If you ever have any free time and fancy a walk in the Beacons, I'd always welcome an accomplice. No ulterior motives, honest

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

There are many other therapies you could try if you don't want to go back to medication. Your GP should be able to point you in the direction of these. Look online for any support groups near you or help groups even.

Also just cause one kind of medication didn't work for you doesn't mean another type wouldn't. I was put on a low dose one that I can have have upped to higher strength when I'm feeling worse and lower when I'm back to a more stable feeling.

Talk to your GP. Tell him/her exactly how you feel. Don't leave anything out. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

You're all so kind to me, thankyou. I am totally shit talking in person, and if I were to go to my GP by the time I had sat in the waiting room surrounded by people, probably chatted to a few people I know, than sat down with the doctor I would probably feel alrite so would struggle then to put across how I actually feel when it happens and would likely play it down. Does that make sense?? My main gripe with when I did take medication was that it totally ruined my sex drive and it took a good 3/4 months after I came off them to get it back, and now I am at a point when for the first time in a few years I am really really enjoying sex on the occasion I do indulge, so I don't want to risk spoiling that

It sort of turned me into an empty shell, yes the anxious feelings and lowness went but I struggled to feel anything even love for my children at the time which is the main reason I stopped taking them as I was like a robot as opposed to a mother xx

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By *igjrvMan over a year ago

blackwood

All of us get down from time to time. When your feeling low, remember that others have and will be feeling the same (strength in numbers). I went through a very tough time (understatement) a few years back. I felt alone, in pain, life was not worth living and I contemplated doing the worst. It was that bad I went around all my friends and family and said good bye. So I really do know how it feels. I stopped myself and gave myself 6 months to see if life improved. It took 5 years.

The thing is people who love you and even strangers that know what you've been through can offer you advice and support. But the one thing they can't do which is the only thing you require, is take the pain away. The knot, that ache, that resides just below your chest plate.

Goals are needed. Surrounding yourself with positive people. Changing your lifestyle. These all help but you need to focus on what makes you happy and follow that. Find the triggers that lead you to feeling low and resolve them. Remember your loved by many and some need you so very much.

My happy place is my daughter. I now have full custody. Life gets better.

It will get better for you. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hi miss p

I've been on anti depressants on and off since I was 19 this last time for 10 years and although I had no problems with them before it took 4 different attempts to find the right ones. I has counselling which got to say was the best thing I ever did ...being able to open up to someone that you're not going to hurt or feel judged by was amazing.

As mentioned above exercise and sunshine is recommended for depression an alternative remedy is st John's wort.

I've also had panic attacks for the last 10 years and it sounds like that's what you are having once you start to recognise them and accept them they are much easier to control I promise. Ever want to chat call me

Nectar xxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

P you know I was on anti depressants for 6 months

I decided to take myself off them and someday so regret that but I get through

Half my family told me I was stupid taking them but they really helped me

There is quite a few different types now

Different ones work with different people

Just go back and see what they say

Try and see a female doctor they are at times more understanding and willing to listen

They will give you a list of self help sites online

And maybe refer you to speak to someone who may find the trigger for it

There is no shame in asking for help

You need to do it for yourself

You know where I am if you need to talk or want a pint xx

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By *itenDaysCouple over a year ago

Vale of Glamorgan

Sorry to hear this Miss P you have a lot of people that are here for you, whether to just listen or if you just need a cwtch. Sometimes things in life can bring the strongest people down and you need help like the team at the moment together stronger. If you need us Miss P you know where we are and we are always available for a cuppa of even a pint of dark fruits. Stay strong x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thankyou everyone xx I am very fortunate to have such good friends xx

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By *3xymamaWoman over a year ago

Uptown Top Ranking

Private message me MissP

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"You're all so kind to me, thankyou. I am totally shit talking in person, and if I were to go to my GP by the time I had sat in the waiting room surrounded by people, probably chatted to a few people I know, than sat down with the doctor I would probably feel alrite so would struggle then to put across how I actually feel when it happens and would likely play it down. Does that make sense?? My main gripe with when I did take medication was that it totally ruined my sex drive and it took a good 3/4 months after I came off them to get it back, and now I am at a point when for the first time in a few years I am really really enjoying sex on the occasion I do indulge, so I don't want to risk spoiling that

I relate to every word of that. I had zero libido on them, which itself became a source of great sadness, as did other side effects like mad sweating and near constant digestive issues.

I think the lack of interest in sex cost me a couple of relationships if I'm honest.

For all the ups and downs, I prefer to experience things "for real". I fully accept others swear by them though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't know personally I didn't lose my sex drive

But for the sake of not feel anxious and depressed I would risk losing my sex drive

I got where I couldn't sleep so sex was the last thing on my mind anyway

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By *ountainwalkerMan over a year ago

port talbot

Ask your doctor to refer you to the mental health nurse, its the start to getting help with the emotional difficulties that the antidepressants don't address. I've been through it and it really does help.

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By *itherofustwoMan over a year ago

swansea

It seems like everyone who has posted has genuinely grid to help you...it says a lot for how your personality has positively touched others in then wanting to help...use that strength and positivity...if it is not a medical doctor you feel you need why not look into cognitive therapy...no drugs, no pain...just honest old fashioned talk and understanding.

If you need to use someone local to you let us know we can give contact details... Take care...Chat anytime

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By *all Mid WalesMan over a year ago

Mid Wales

Hey miss. I have suffered with depression for a long time since a death of a close relative. Times I got so depressed I was 1 foot step away from ending it all. Buy right at end I managed to find directions one branch to get a hold of, take the noose off and I walked straight to the doctors. Leaving the doctors didn't cure my depression but I felt so much better for having talked to someone

I was on medication but had to com off it die to anti depressants causing my liver to fail and 3 years later I still have my bad days but no where near to the point where I was. When ever you feel bad talk to someone, anyone it is a release that will help you immensely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems like everyone who has posted has genuinely grid to help you...it says a lot for how your personality has positively touched others in then wanting to help...use that strength and positivity...if it is not a medical doctor you feel you need why not look into cognitive therapy...no drugs, no pain...just honest old fashioned talk and understanding.

If you need to use someone local to you let us know we can give contact details... Take care...Chat anytime"

This is how the site was before all the bitching started

People could ask advice

And if they were having an off day others lent a shoulder or an ear

Now you comment and shit back

Like certain people shouldn't comment

Yet others can take other the threads with their attention seeking bs lol

Anyway like I said before I'm here if you need a chat other then that try the doctors

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you need to use someone local to you let us know we can give contact details... Take care...Chat anytime

This is how the site was before all the bitching started

People could ask advice

And if they were having an off day others lent a shoulder or an ear

Now you comment and shit back

Like certain people shouldn't comment

Yet others can take other the threads with their attention seeking bs lol

Anyway like I said before I'm here if you need a chat other then that try the doctors "

So very true, it's refreshing to see some threads where more than 2 people have taken over with a flirting campaign x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have been in 2 minds whether to post this or not but seens as I am not the person to ever talk to anyone close to me I just wanted a bit of an outlet really.

I know exactly how you are feeling I've been suffering terrible flashbacks and nightmares / night terrors since finding my bestie hanged Christmas before last and tbh with all the images of dead bodies and shit I been seeing I thought I was going bonkers ,feeling down ,depressed ,vounerable even suicidal and totally alone which I've been bk and for the docs like you wouldn't believe .

They sent me to all sorts of ppl to find out the score which itself is stressful tho recently I have been diagnosed with PTSD which for me is a bitter sweet relief as I don't wanna be stuck with any ailment but at least they've said yes that's the problem as I thought I was loosing my mind but at least I can address that problem now rather than wondering Wtfs going on with me !!

All I can say babe is little steps each day at your own pace as ppl can criticise but live 1 day with my flash backs and images and let's see if they're so critical after that. DEPRESSION is a Kent and living with it is hard but we do as that's what we got to do I salute you for your honesty xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you need to use someone local to you let us know we can give contact details... Take care...Chat anytime

This is how the site was before all the bitching started

People could ask advice

And if they were having an off day others lent a shoulder or an ear

Now you comment and shit back

Like certain people shouldn't comment

Yet others can take other the threads with their attention seeking bs lol

Anyway like I said before I'm here if you need a chat other then that try the doctors

So very true, it's refreshing to see some threads where more than 2 people have taken over with a flirting campaign x"

Yeah exactly

Even thou I think people need to look a little closer to the threads

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And my comment was merely stating that the site used to be like a little community where people were offered advice and help if they needed it

Without people following you round the threads to make comments to everything you put

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hope you manage to get some help soon P

It will only get worse Hun x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aww babes it's a horrible illness and sometimes is ignored as it can't be seen. I am a sufferer also (not pnd) of anxiety and depression, it takes time and will always be in the background , but I found tablets and counselling helped. Stay positive and strong xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And my comment was merely stating that the site used to be like a little community where people were offered advice and help if they needed it

Without people following you round the threads to make comments to everything you put

At last the penny drops & it's not nice

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And my comment was merely stating that the site used to be like a little community where people were offered advice and help if they needed it

Without people following you round the threads to make comments to everything you put

At last the penny drops & it's not nice

There is names for people that follow others round threads it's kind of stalking

Which is why I've had to block people in the past as they constantly messaged my veris for meets

I guess I should have been flattered in a way

But hey there is more important things in life then fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well of course who's left to meet. On with life then ciao X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you please stop replying to my comments

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Medication didn't work for me. It just made me numb and the side effects outweighed the benefits for me personally which makes me reluctant to go back down that route

Exercise and diet play a large role in how we feel about ourselves....maybe try making some changes in these areas? I'm a fully qualified PT & ante post natal specialist & also mum of 2..I also have experience of anxiety and use of medication and the side effects (mainly insomnia) massively outweighed any positive effects so I've never bothered since.

Other things to try with hormone balancing and feeling better - vit D supplement (spray is good) also magnesium supplement. Along with a diet rich in fruit and veg and wholefoods you'd be surprised how much effect these could have.

Sometimes just taking control and making positive steps is enough of a catalyst to feel better...good luck x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree I found when I started going gym and eating properly I felt so much better

Then as soon as I stopped I felt crap

No energy

Anxiety sets in and I can't sleep

I just need to get back on that boat again I had friends who would moan when I didn't feel like gym to give you that push and motivate you

It's hard but it's worth it in the end

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks everyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you just need a gangbang to be honest.

I'll call Justin beiber and a few others.

You know, cos I'm a top friend and that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think you just need a gangbang to be honest.

I'll call Justin beiber and a few others.

You know, cos I'm a top friend and that. "

Hhmm well the few young hotties I've got on my on my hotlist, all at once would cure anything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm sure they would all be willing as its for medical reasons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm sure they would all be willing as its for medical reasons

I'm all for experimenting if its for Medical Research

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have been in 2 minds whether to post this or not but seens as I am not the person to ever talk to anyone close to me I just wanted a bit of an outlet really.

MissP

You have done a very brave thing in posting this. And the advice you have been given has been outstanding.

Fitchick hit the nail on the head when she says Dieting and exercise can help you with your PND.

A doctor will always go for the giving you Meds option. There should be counselling available, ask the next time you go to the GP.

You have a lot of friends on here that could and probably would help you.

Chin up Hunny keep going and you will get there xxx

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By *ancubsaMan over a year ago

Newport

Bloody hell... this site is falling to pieces!!!

No, on all seriousness, depression is a horriblen illness to have to live with. Of you're not on the right happy pills then you're on a loser from the start.

Some of it can be from a chemical imbalance, vitamin deficiency, wrong diet and other stuff. See if you can find help with those and that will push you in the right direction without drugs.

A big one is exercise, not just sexercise!!! That will really help. It is a lifestyle change... bigtime!!!

I hope you work it out sone rather than later xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I don't think I made myself clear enough in my orignal post. It's these random episodes of anxiety that are cripplong me. I wouldn't say I'm depressed now, as in between them I'm alright. I have suffered from depression in the past but wouldn't call it that now. It's more an anxiety problem. But thanks for all the advice all the same

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hiya Miss P are you arranging social meet this week?

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By *ancubsaMan over a year ago

Newport

Sorry MissP. .. I was concentrating more on the depression side of things. I would be pissing in in the wind if I offered you anxiety advice so be say nothing. Hope you find an answer x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think I made myself clear enough in my orignal post. It's these random episodes of anxiety that are cripplong me. I wouldn't say I'm depressed now, as in between them I'm alright. I have suffered from depression in the past but wouldn't call it that now. It's more an anxiety problem. But thanks for all the advice all the same

Sounds like panic attacks MissP - first port of call defo GP see what options there are for you. Explain to GP how anti depressants affected your libido in the past. He/she will probably offer you counselling initially (worth a try) if that doesnt work maybe a different anti depressant?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bit late arriving to this post sorry.

Panic attacks while only a mild form of the while depression thing are an early warning.

While I understand your reasons for not wanting to be on the medication, I would just sat this.

When I'm ok ish, I lower my meds, just enough. Then obviously up them again when my head gets all dark nasty and scary again.

Not good advice I know but I think it is important to stand up and say

Oh, me too your not alone.

Congrats for being brave and honest. Good luck love xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have been in 2 minds whether to post this or not but seens as I am not the person to ever talk to anyone close to me I just wanted a bit of an outlet really.

Hi missp,

The Mrs here, I don't post in the forums very often or at all really lol. But I came across this and wanted to reply because I totally understand where you're coming from, I had postpartum psychosis after my son was born 3 years ago, my meds have come right down but during time of the month the hormones kinda completely cancel my meds out. The anxiety is awful, I don't even have triggers anymore it just comes on me and stays for a few days, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I don't know if ou have a psychiatrist, but if you don't wanna take meds then maybe it's worth asking your GP to refer you to one, mine has been fantastic, because I wanted to slowly come off meds but was scared to he introduced me to quite a few therapies which at first I didn't believe in but they have helped, just breathing techniques and behavioural therapies, I completely brushed it off until I was told just bloody try it lol. It has helped dramatically, and if you're not to keen on going back down the medical route I would really recommend it. Hope you find something that works for you xxx

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

You been wit of a bully in forums so I can't say you have low self esteem u have many friend on here

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

Good thread to be nice to people if u don't like them more could be going on than u think

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks guys this thread is from a while ago now I am feeling a lot better of late

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

That's good then

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"That's good then"

Thankyou for your concern it's always nice to know that people care

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

U reap what u sow always be nice sarcasm not nice none of us bad so if u got nothing to say don't say nothing

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

We all have problems lets just support each other

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"U reap what u sow always be nice sarcasm not nice none of us bad so if u got nothing to say don't say nothing"

What?? I was thanking you for your concern as I had done with others throughout the thread. Wow if you took it as sarcasm then I sincerely apologise as it certainly wasn't meant as such. Everyone on this thread has been nothing but kind and helpful to me at a time when I really wasn't very well at all. Why would I be sarcastic?? Confused

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By *elsh n wildCouple over a year ago

Cardiff area

I apologise it was the way it came across on text x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hey miss p just seen this thread and sincerely hope you're coping well! If you ever need a chat or someone to chill with, give you're good ol' Newport friend a message I'll come talk with you *kisses* x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Hey miss p just seen this thread and sincerely hope you're coping well! If you ever need a chat or someone to chill with, give you're good ol' Newport friend a message I'll come talk with you *kisses* x"

Thanks hun but I'm doing ok atm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good to know! Pm me a sec babe?x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find with anxiety lack of sleep is the worst thing for me

Then I just sit there thinking all the time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find with anxiety lack of sleep is the worst thing for me

Then I just sit there thinking all the time

Definitely, when I was unwell the doctor told me that tiredness can be a major trigger xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find with anxiety lack of sleep is the worst thing for me

Then I just sit there thinking all the time

Definitely, when I was unwell the doctor told me that tiredness can be a major trigger xxx"

Because one of my sons has seizures which only happen when he's sleeping I can't take sleeping tablets

But they give me antihistamine to help me relax

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I find with anxiety lack of sleep is the worst thing for me

Then I just sit there thinking all the time

Definitely, when I was unwell the doctor told me that tiredness can be a major trigger xxx"

It would often start when I was trying to sleep either before or after a nightshift so it probably was a big contributary factor xx

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By * and CCouple over a year ago

near Cardiff

Ive seen first hand what depression can do. Best advice i can give you is to try any method to help you can until yoi find one that best suites you. Different things, work for different people. If one thing doesn't work, ask your doctor for another and dont be ashamed to keep asking for help.

My dad suffered after losing his brother and he described it as a feeling of being alone. Councelling helped him a lot but it wasn't an overnight fix.

Hope you feel better soon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MissP69 is one of the nicest people on here and I always have a great time when Im in her company.

I think most mental health professionals would say you need to express your thoughts and feelings and not keep things bottled up.

Sometimes people need to get things of their chests or they dwell on stuff and over think it.

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By * and CCouple over a year ago

near Cardiff

"MissP69 is one of the nicest people on here and I always have a great time when Im in her company.

I think most mental health professionals would say you need to express your thoughts and feelings and not keep things bottled up.

Sometimes people need to get things of their chests or they dwell on stuff and over think it."

True. Plus you should never argue with a stark.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I myself know how you feel. I suffer from bi polar stage 3 depression and acute anxiety disorder.. The meds I'm usually on are diazapam (valuum,10mg), zopiclone (7.5mg) and lorazapam (1mg),but stopped taking them because I hated being like a cabbage every day, like couldn't do anything.. I've since tried other therapies like cognitive therapy and am finding it's working.. Slowly.. Even though I'm still prescribed the forementioned medication. I also used alcohol to steady my nerves, but found the hangovers a pain in the arse lol... Maybe look for alternative therapies to help? - hope you get back to yourself soon and feel better! xx

as they say, it all takes time! x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have u tried St. John's wort

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Big love Miss P xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A little bit harsh, but everyone is entitled to have an opinion.

2 wrongs never make a right, Miss P was brave enough to post and that must have taken a lot. But remember this, we all have our demons that we deal with on a daily basis, the easiest way to deal with things, is to put up a barrier and often turn it around and find weakness in others.

The best way to deal with things is to share your problems with others and surround yourself with friends.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He is just pissed off because he doesn't get the attention he craves and all his forum threads flop as soon as he posts them sad and pathetic if you ask me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The irony in the above post is simply hilarious.

You've just trolled MissP

The forums are full of banter and peoples opinions - if you cannot handle them stay away from them.

People are free to post what they want in an open forum as long as it's within the rules set out by fab.

Anybody who knows MissP personally as in met her would disregard whatever assumption you've made based on words on a forum.

I think the general rule in life is only dish out what you can take back and the majority have big enough balls to not be offended by opinions on a bloody forum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake. "

Can I drink dark fruits from her minge?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake.

Can I drink dark fruits from her minge?"

As long as you don't waste it, she'd not be amused

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake.

Can I drink dark fruits from her minge?

As long as you don't waste it, she'd not be amused

Waste her minge, or the dark fruits?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake.

Can I drink dark fruits from her minge?

As long as you don't waste it, she'd not be amused

Waste her minge, or the dark fruits?"

She likes her minge being wasted but her dark fruits savoured

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss P is lovely!! I've never seen her being horrible to anyone, must be because she wants me

I'm first though mate, best we not tell her in advance, she likes a surprise attack, or a bushwhacking

Gangbang, she likes them!

Just don't cum in her mouth for fuck sake.

Can I drink dark fruits from her minge?

As long as you don't waste it, she'd not be amused

Waste her minge, or the dark fruits?

She likes her minge being wasted but her dark fruits savoured "

God forbid If I spill one single drop, you think she'll meet me if I tell her my spunk tastes like dark fruits?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thankyou everyone

I've just come back from hospital with my little boy again (most of you who are close to me know about his chronic illness) so it is always nice to read such kind words

As for the hater, I really couldn't give any less fucks

I have far more important things in my life to worry about and have no interest in arguing so sorry mate, better luck next time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thankyou everyone

I've just come back from hospital with my little boy again (most of you who are close to me know about his chronic illness) so it is always nice to read such kind words

As for the hater, I really couldn't give any less fucks

I have far more important things in my life to worry about and have no interest in arguing so sorry mate, better luck next time

Ignore the rest of the posts, concentrate on the request to sup dark fruits from your minge, a spiffing idea

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Thankyou everyone

I've just come back from hospital with my little boy again (most of you who are close to me know about his chronic illness) so it is always nice to read such kind words

As for the hater, I really couldn't give any less fucks

I have far more important things in my life to worry about and have no interest in arguing so sorry mate, better luck next time

Ignore the rest of the posts, concentrate on the request to sup dark fruits from your minge, a spiffing idea

Haha is that my party trick??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thankyou everyone

I've just come back from hospital with my little boy again (most of you who are close to me know about his chronic illness) so it is always nice to read such kind words

As for the hater, I really couldn't give any less fucks

I have far more important things in my life to worry about and have no interest in arguing so sorry mate, better luck next time

Ignore the rest of the posts, concentrate on the request to sup dark fruits from your minge, a spiffing idea

Haha is that my party trick??

Well if you'd like to try it at a party I'd watch, I can handle the risk of possible mental trauma

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