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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!!

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We had this the other day

And to me we come on to have a laugh

There are days when I'm pissed off or down and I come on here and it cheers me

And I am sure I'm not the only one who finds this the case

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op it happens all the time, sometimes a very interesting topic is taken over, when this happens we just stop reading the topic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!! Forum trolls I like to call them ??????

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Forum trolls I like to call them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Wales forum, where strangers and the unwary fear to tread

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

This is the official Welsh Fab forum cartographer, from this point on, this thread can go in any direction.... that is all.

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

So can people not be friends and have a laugh together in the forums? If you look in the lounge regulars do exactly the same. And the reason for this is these people socialise together at socials clubs and parties so have the same rapport in the forums as at these places! Is it such a crime. As long as people are getting on and having fun which is the reason most are on here isn't that the main thing!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So I'm wondering how many times we can comment without being classed as taking it over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not sure if im classed as one of these that take over threads or a forum troll or not, however, I (lola) have only recently started regularly posting on threads after years of just reading....I find once you get involved and have a bit of banter then its a lot more fun, most people on here are friendly and it's surprising what and who you get to know from chatting on here....I have been eenjoying myself and not breaking any forum rules so wont be changing the way I have been for anyone

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"

So I'm wondering how many times we can comment without being classed as taking it over

"

I reckon we can get away with at least 3 or 4 each

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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So I'm wondering how many times we can comment without being classed as taking it over

"

lol dont care who takes over my dull and inane posts

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Op it happens all the time, sometimes a very interesting topic is taken over, when this happens we just stop reading the topic. "

I completely agree,, it puts me right off x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Surely all forums are open to all people to air views on subject

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

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"Surely all forums are open to all people to air views on subject"

No they are not! Apparently

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am terrible for this, and I know I am. I find it all too easy to get distracted and caught up in conversations, when really I should probably do it over pm.

I'll do my best to stop...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I am terrible for this, and I know I am. I find it all too easy to get distracted and caught up in conversations, when really I should probably do it over pm.

I'll do my best to stop... "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely all forums are open to all people to air views on subject

No they are not! Apparently "

Ok I keep my big mouth shut now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have met some lovely people on here simply because we started off having a laugh and banter on the threads

Where as inboxing gets to much at times

It appears we aren't allowed to enjoy ourselves

Well don't take this personal

But personally I don't care unless I'm braking the forum rules I will continue to have a laugh and flirt with like minded people on here

And I don't care what you or anyone else has to say

Why not join in

You might actually that you have a laugh and enjoy yourself as well

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I am terrible for this, and I know I am. I find it all too easy to get distracted and caught up in conversations, when really I should probably do it over pm.

I'll do my best to stop...

"

Patronising much!!

Dunce cap in the corner for us all Mike so it seems!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am terrible for this, and I know I am. I find it all too easy to get distracted and caught up in conversations, when really I should probably do it over pm.

I'll do my best to stop...

Patronising much!!

Dunce cap in the corner for us all Mike so it seems!"

They're right though, and it's not the first time it's come up lately...

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I am terrible for this, and I know I am. I find it all too easy to get distracted and caught up in conversations, when really I should probably do it over pm.

I'll do my best to stop...

Patronising much!!

Dunce cap in the corner for us all Mike so it seems!

They're right though, and it's not the first time it's come up lately... "

Stop looking for sympathy we're all as bad as one another

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By *ires_and_IceCouple  over a year ago

Over the Rainbow

Errrrrrrrrrrr lol xx

hi lol xxx

F xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, I have noticed this phenomenon. I agree with you that it must be hugely annoying to see conversations evolve organically to fit the participants. People should adhere strictly to the topic at hand. Viva la revolucion.

Brought to you by the new, on topic, Mike 2.0.

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

Alright, stop this now, have you no shame?

Anyone need any DIY done, I'm a dab hand at tiling, and I've got my own hammer drill too!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Here we go again

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Alright, stop this now, have you no shame?

Anyone need any DIY done, I'm a dab hand at tiling, and I've got my own hammer drill too! "

Lush likes Lawnmowers

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"I have met some lovely people on here simply because we started off having a laugh and banter on the threads

Where as inboxing gets to much at times

It appears we aren't allowed to enjoy ourselves

Well don't take this personal

But personally I don't care unless I'm braking the forum rules I will continue to have a laugh and flirt with like minded people on here

And I don't care what you or anyone else has to say

Why not join in

You might actually that you have a laugh and enjoy yourself as well "

Well said,

Jeez think im gona get shot down now for the thumbs up x

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I have met some lovely people on here simply because we started off having a laugh and banter on the threads

Where as inboxing gets to much at times

It appears we aren't allowed to enjoy ourselves

Well don't take this personal

But personally I don't care unless I'm braking the forum rules I will continue to have a laugh and flirt with like minded people on here

And I don't care what you or anyone else has to say

Why not join in

You might actually that you have a laugh and enjoy yourself as well

Well said,

Jeez think im gona get shot down now for the thumbs up x

"

You thumbs up all you want to hun

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP, I have noticed this phenomenon. I agree with you that it must be hugely annoying to see conversations evolve organically to fit the participants. People should adhere strictly to the topic at hand. Viva la revolucion.

Brought to you by the new, on topic, Mike 2.0. "

Lol!!! You total star!!! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What was the topic again?....

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"OP, I have noticed this phenomenon. I agree with you that it must be hugely annoying to see conversations evolve organically to fit the participants. People should adhere strictly to the topic at hand. Viva la revolucion.

Brought to you by the new, on topic, Mike 2.0.

Lol!!! You total star!!! X "

Can we refrain from the thumbing up of comments please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OP, I have noticed this phenomenon. I agree with you that it must be hugely annoying to see conversations evolve organically to fit the participants. People should adhere strictly to the topic at hand. Viva la revolucion.

Brought to you by the new, on topic, Mike 2.0.

Lol!!! You total star!!! X "

Please stick to the topic. If you start "talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!", you may be accused of hypocrisy..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"What was the topic again?...."

Not to take over a thread I think?

So sorry if im wrong though x

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"What was the topic again?....

Me being a cunt. (this comment is technically on topic) "

Aww no way are you one of those!!

are you?? Haha kat x

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What was the topic again?....

Me being a cunt. (this comment is technically on topic)

Aww no way are you one of those!!

are you?? Haha kat x"

This is not the place for talking amongst ourselves, as OP has made clear. Please stay on topic.

OP - I'm doing my best here. A little help?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Without mentioning any names it appears that those who are guilty of taking over, or not caring who they put down, or just being plain rude, are able to work it out for themselves??

Even more bizarre are the one who think they are??? The wannabes?? Lol x

Discuss!!!

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Without mentioning any names it appears that those who are guilty of taking over, or not caring who they put down, or just being plain rude, are able to work it out for themselves??

Even more bizarre are the one who think they are??? The wannabes?? Lol x

Discuss!!! "

Why are you unable to abide by your own rules, in your own thread?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Without mentioning any names it appears that those who are guilty of taking over, or not caring who they put down, or just being plain rude, are able to work it out for themselves??

Even more bizarre are the one who think they are??? The wannabes?? Lol x

Discuss!!! "

Op you are the one who has started a post putting other people down because they don't use the forums in the way you would like them to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Without mentioning any names it appears that those who are guilty of taking over, or not caring who they put down, or just being plain rude, are able to work it out for themselves??

Even more bizarre are the one who think they are??? The wannabes?? Lol x

Discuss!!! "

This is the funniest thing I have seen all day, thanks OP lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"What was the topic again?....

Me being a cunt. (this comment is technically on topic)

Aww no way are you one of those!!

are you?? Haha kat x

This is not the place for talking amongst ourselves, as OP has made clear. Please stay on topic.

OP - I'm doing my best here. A little help? "

I don't think I need too?? Everyone seems more than capable of totally proving my point??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What was the topic again?....

Me being a cunt. (this comment is technically on topic)

Aww no way are you one of those!!

are you?? Haha kat x

This is not the place for talking amongst ourselves, as OP has made clear. Please stay on topic.

OP - I'm doing my best here. A little help?

I don't think I need too?? Everyone seems more than capable of totally proving my point?? "

And that apparently includes you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Without mentioning any names it appears that those who are guilty of taking over, or not caring who they put down, or just being plain rude, are able to work it out for themselves??

Even more bizarre are the one who think they are??? The wannabes?? Lol x

Discuss!!!

This is the funniest thing I have seen all day, thanks OP lol "

Happy to point out the totally obvious!! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wannabes is that new reality show like xfactor

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Wannabes is that new reality show like xfactor"

Think we might be contestants

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wannabes is that new reality show like xfactor

Think we might be contestants "

What's your forte

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called "

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

It's the gift that just keeps giving??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x"

Well said kat

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x"

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x

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By *r reliable cardiffMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x"

whoops!

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"It's the gift that just keeps giving?? "

Pot kettle black!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x"

At least we have stuck to the thread subject so far lol

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on here does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x

At least we have stuck to the thread subject so far lol

"

Nah I mentioned about you liking lawnmowers earlier

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I need one that comes with some hot topless guy ha ha

But back to the subject to hand

We have commented more then 4 times think we are trolls lol

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I need one that comes with some hot topless guy ha ha

But back to the subject to hand

We have commented more then 4 times think we are trolls lol "

No Lush Wannabe Trolls

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on rrhere does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x

At least we have stuck to the thread subject so far lol

"

Aww bless must be having a bad day

We seem to be very good at sticking to the thread rules though dont ya think?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Whoop whoop not only am I a troll I'm a wannabe too!!! Well it beats being called the other things I can get called

This is so amusing but I have a feeling this is about me not you hunnie,

If it is I aint no wannabe, just because we all chat, flirt and have a laugh on rrhere does not make anyone of us a wannbe!

If people enjoy my banter and join in then thats there choice,

Jeez just have a laugh and join in, didnt relise the forums was just for seriousness all the time kat x

I think the OP is on about more than one of us. I'll happily the take the name calling which by all accounts is fine for him to put people down!!

The forums have been a bloody scream lately so I say let the fun carry on x

At least we have stuck to the thread subject so far lol

Aww bless must be having a bad day

We seem to be very good at sticking to the thread rules though dont ya think? "

One of us will stray

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again "

Lola behave or spankings will be handed out

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again "

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl "

That's one spank coming your way Kat

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl

That's one spank coming your way Kat "

I,ll take two because I have commented a few times ,now, naughty me

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl "

Haha...love that song...

Being wannabes didn't do them no harm did it? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl

That's one spank coming your way Kat

I,ll take two because I have commented a few times ,now, naughty me "

Wannadies you and me song?? Lol x

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

"

You ask us to discuss we do and that is wrong! The forums are a laugh can you not see that. When there are serious topics forums do stay on topic. But as this is all a bit of "fun" aren't you taking this just a bit to serious?!

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By *INKYCAT123Couple  over a year ago

cardiff


"Wannabes, didnt they have a song in the charts?

Oopps sorry, going off topic again

Spice girls did with if you wanabe my lover pmsl

That's one spank coming your way Kat

I,ll take two because I have commented a few times ,now, naughty me

Wannadies you and me song?? Lol x"

Nice to see you joining in abd going off the main topic

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

"

" wrong doing?? "

Who says so?

You, OP? Do you now set the rules about how a forum should run?

Perhaps it would be judicious for someone to post the definition of the word "forum" for you....oh, wait... whats that coming through cyber-space?

"Forums prefer a premise of open and free discussion and often adopt de facto standards. Most common topics on forums include questions, comparisons, polls of opinion as well as debates. It is not uncommon for nonsense or unsocial behavior to sprout as people lose temper, especially if the topic is controversial. Poor understanding of differences in values of the participants is a common problem on forums. Because replies to a topic are often worded aimed at someone's point of view, discussion will usually go slightly off into several directions as people question each other's validity, sources and so on. Circular discussion and ambiguity in replies can extend for several tens of posts of a thread eventually ending when everyone gives up or attention spans waver and a more interesting subject takes over. It is not uncommon for debate to end in ad hominem attacks."

Doncha just love a smart-arse lol?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfecs a way of biting back and making look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

"

OP, in all seriousness. ..you calling people wannabes for posting and having a laugh is bound to get people's backs up...me included

You know nothing about people's personal lives, and if people can come on here, make friends and have a bit of a laugh then good for them.

How do you know I don't have confidence issues for instance, like I said I have been here years and only just started posting (I haven't btw)

Calling people wannabes for joining in is down right insulting. We can all joke about it, however, how do you know that you havent scared others away from joining in?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't get what we have done wrong

We haven't insulted anyone

Bullied anyone

Been nasty rude or disrespectful to anyone

So can you tell me what exactly what the problem is ?

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I don't get what we have done wrong

We haven't insulted anyone

Bullied anyone

Been nasty rude or disrespectful to anyone

So can you tell me what exactly what the problem is ?"

We just aren't allowed to have fun Lush!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is the official Welsh Fab forum cartographer, from this point on, this thread can go in any direction.... that is all. "

is this the same person that is also the official er out of couples profiles that are really single men?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

threadbombers ....they can strike anywhere

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By *r reliable cardiffMan  over a year ago

Cardiff

Speaking personally and not intended to wind anyone up, I love the forums! Yes at times some people may speak out of turn, but it's an open forum and their entitled to their views. But on the whole I find them pretty informative and a bloody good laugh it's somewhere that people with broadly similar interests can speak their minds an be themselves. 99% of the people on the Welsh forum I've never spoken to in person, but I feel comfortable posting here. I have never found it to be hostile, if anything quite the opposite

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Speaking personally and not intended to wind anyone up, I love the forums! Yes at times some people may speak out of turn, but it's an open forum and their entitled to their views. But on the whole I find them pretty informative and a bloody good laugh it's somewhere that people with broadly similar interests can speak their minds an be themselves. 99% of the people on the Welsh forum I've never spoken to in person, but I feel comfortable posting here. I have never found it to be hostile, if anything quite the opposite "

I agree

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"This is the official Welsh Fab forum cartographer, from this point on, this thread can go in any direction.... that is all.

is this the same person that is also the official er out of couples profiles that are really single men? "

Well, that's not official, that's just a hobby lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

"

I don't have a problem having it pointed out, and yes, by my own admission I'm someone who ends up veering off topic.

What I do have a problem with is double standards. I've pointed out more than once that you are doing EXACTLY what you're complaining about, and you haven't addressed it or responded.

Which seems to put you into another of your own categories, that of people who don't like having things pointed out.

Play the game - I owned up to my failings, how about you give it a try?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

I don't have a problem having it pointed out, and yes, by my own admission I'm someone who ends up veering off topic.

What I do have a problem with is double standards. I've pointed out more than once that you are doing EXACTLY what you're complaining about, and you haven't addressed it or responded.

Which seems to put you into another of your own categories, that of people who don't like having things pointed out.

Play the game - I owned up to my failings, how about you give it a try? "

Mike, the OP wasnt originally on qbout you though, you owned up so that makes you wannabe

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By *arrapsMan  over a year ago

port talbot

Anybody know how to repair a lawnmower, my 18 incher won't start, no matter how many times I pull the handle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anybody know how to repair a lawnmower, my 18 incher won't start, no matter how many times I pull the handle."

Check the carburettor

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman  over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"

Mike, the OP wasnt originally on qbout you though, you owned up so that makes you wannabe "

Wannabe Troll remember Lola

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!!

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol"

Well it would appear that I am the only person to agree with the OP 100%.

I was bullied and called all sorts of horrendous names last week on here. I was referred to in the third person by one poster on my own thread - "Is she taking the piss?". That was one of the least offensive comments and far worse followed. I said nothing to these people in retaliation other than leave me alone.

The one thing I didn't post last week was that when "you" were all having a go at me, I had a massive number of messages in my personal inbox from people saying "They are nasty - Ignore them - they always do this" or "Don't let them upset you" or "I think what you're suggesting is a great idea - I wish I had the confidence to post something like that on the forums" or "this is a win win situation" etc etc. None of them posted on my chain because they didn't want to feel isolated or alienated by the forum massif, and they didn't want to add fuel to the fire. I don't blame them.

Yes some of the comments and responses on the Welsh Forum are very funny, but some of the others are frankly a complete embarrassment to every single man and woman that resides in this country. It is harassment. It's snide. It's turf warfare - and the forum addicts seem to want to protect their territory by subtly trying to humiliate newcomers, people who say something that grates with the clique or those who rarely visit this place.

Carry on being who you are as individuals. Carry on having fun and cracking jokes. But before you take out your anger on your phone or keyboard next time on the forums, have a think about how you'd feel if you were sent messages like that. It's cyberbullying.

I have no idea whether a certain gent on here is being facetious but I think he makes a good point if he's not.

The sad thing is, nothing will change on here. People will still pick holes and have a dig at others. Please remember that it's only funny if the other person is laughing.

I'll probably get my head ripped off now for saying all of this. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. I was put off visiting the Welsh Forum last week after the way I was spoken to and I don't really come here often now so you can say what you like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

So I'm wondering how many times we can comment without being classed as taking it over

"

I don't think it's the amount of comments as much as the ongoing 2 person conversation that takes over, the type that should take place in a pm. We're all guilty of it at times, to differing degrees but I do try to stop myself & will pm. Some people can go through the whole thread of almost 175 posts & not seem to notice that everyone else had opted out. At those times it becomes cringe worthy, because it's so egotistical. I totally get what these recent threads are about x

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By *arrapsMan  over a year ago

port talbot


"Anybody know how to repair a lawnmower, my 18 incher won't start, no matter how many times I pull the handle.

Check the carburettor "

Tried that, fresh petrol and the sod still won't start.....

Next step is a frigging big sledgehammer......

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

If words on a screen have that sort of effect on someone, then maybe they should stay away from forums, as, and this goes for ANY forum, when there is a difference of opinion, people can, and will, say some pretty harsh things.

It's a well-known fact, as pointed out in my post where I pasted the definition of "forum".

Not everyone will agree with what you post, some will take the piss and call it banter, others will take the piss just to illicit a response, and a few will be nasty just for the fun of it, but you need to grow a pair, stand your ground and type back, the worst that can happen is a little RSI lol!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

also remember we are all entitled to an opinion even though not everyone will agree with it. Under normal circumstances that should progress to a debate, and not an all out bitchfest, which is what usually happens....unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Not everyone will agree with what you post, some will take the piss and call it banter, others will take the piss just to illicit a response, and a few will be nasty just for the fun of it, but you need to grow a pair, stand your ground and type back, the worst that can happen is a little RSI lol!"

Or rise about it and walk away.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If words on a screen have that sort of effect on someone, then maybe they should stay away from forums, as, and this goes for ANY forum, when there is a difference of opinion, people can, and will, say some pretty harsh things.

It's a well-known fact, as pointed out in my post where I pasted the definition of "forum".

Not everyone will agree with what you post, some will take the piss and call it banter, others will take the piss just to illicit a response, and a few will be nasty just for the fun of it, but you need to grow a pair, stand your ground and type back, the worst that can happen is a little RSI lol!"

But you're apologising for nastiness, which I find difficult

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was only saying the other day how much nicer it seems in these forums the last week...

The problem is, it is usually the same people who start forum threads or joins in and has a laugh.

If more people got involved, took everything said with a pinch of salt and had a laugh then they would have a lot better reaction from those that do make an effort regularly.

We are all adults and no one I believe is a bully or genuinely nasty.

I think because the regular people know how to take the banter off others it is assumed new people would too.

People are going to have opinions, and they are not always going to agree but it dont mean they are being nasty, the only time nastiness is involved is when the OP of whichever thread takes offence and starts getting defensive instead of seeing it like it is...just opinions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was only saying the other day how much nicer it seems in these forums the last week...

The problem is, it is usually the same people who start forum threads or joins in and has a laugh.

If more people got involved, took everything said with a pinch of salt and had a laugh then they would have a lot better reaction from those that do make an effort regularly.

We are all adults and no one I believe is a bully or genuinely nasty.

I think because the regular people know how to take the banter off others it is assumed new people would too.

People are going to have opinions, and they are not always going to agree but it dont mean they are being nasty, the only time nastiness is involved is when the OP of whichever thread takes offence and starts getting defensive instead of seeing it like it is...just opinions "

Very well put

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well ... pmsl .... I saw the start of this thread earlier this evening and thought "eh up .. there's going to be trouble! "

Been out for a social drink and chat with a sexy guy, put the worlds to right, planned a sexy meet soon, snogged and drove home. Logged on and guess what ... "eh up .. there's still trouble at mill! "

Gotta love the Welsh swinging scene and all its foibles! !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!!

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol

Well it would appear that I am the only person to agree with the OP 100%.

I was bullied and called all sorts of horrendous names last week on here. I was referred to in the third person by one poster on my own thread - "Is she taking the piss?". That was one of the least offensive comments and far worse followed. I said nothing to these people in retaliation other than leave me alone.

The one thing I didn't post last week was that when "you" were all having a go at me, I had a massive number of messages in my personal inbox from people saying "They are nasty - Ignore them - they always do this" or "Don't let them upset you" or "I think what you're suggesting is a great idea - I wish I had the confidence to post something like that on the forums" or "this is a win win situation" etc etc. None of them posted on my chain because they didn't want to feel isolated or alienated by the forum massif, and they didn't want to add fuel to the fire. I don't blame them.

Yes some of the comments and responses on the Welsh Forum are very funny, but some of the others are frankly a complete embarrassment to every single man and woman that resides in this country. It is harassment. It's snide. It's turf warfare - and the forum addicts seem to want to protect their territory by subtly trying to humiliate newcomers, people who say something that grates with the clique or those who rarely visit this place.

Carry on being who you are as individuals. Carry on having fun and cracking jokes. But before you take out your anger on your phone or keyboard next time on the forums, have a think about how you'd feel if you were sent messages like that. It's cyberbullying.

I have no idea whether a certain gent on here is being facetious but I think he makes a good point if he's not.

The sad thing is, nothing will change on here. People will still pick holes and have a dig at others. Please remember that it's only funny if the other person is laughing.

I'll probably get my head ripped off now for saying all of this. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. I was put off visiting the Welsh Forum last week after the way I was spoken to and I don't really come here often now so you can say what you like."

I have to agree....

Whilst most days it is fun... there are times when people group together and it can appear cliquey (I'm not saying you are a clique as I get on with you all I said "appear cliquey") to new members. .unknown users etc...

Last week I did see The above lady's post looking for a club buddy and did feel she was jumped on... her morals questioned. .likening her to a prostitute...it did soon come across as bullying ...

When swingers (who are more open minded and less judgemental than normal folk) start judging other swingers we are pretty fkd

Where else can a swinger advertise for a club buddy . I just think if something isn't what you'd necessarily like/do etc there is no need to shoot another member down. .in this case it was that she would provide entry to club by way of a pass/membership etc and ideally the guy pay for room....now whilst lots on here have opinions on that ..it's merely a deal that could have worked well for two consenting adults.... cheap and easy entry for the guy..... and accommodation for the lady...winner right? ??

I seen it and thought why's everyone going crazy over that ?

I think we must all scare lots of others off the Welsh forums ....let's all just live and let live ...

I don't do pegging. ..I don't do bdsm etc but I don't mock or criticise those that do..so why don't we all accept others and whatever it is they are looking to get out of fab. .in above case..an ideal club arrangement ......

Let's show others we can be a friendly bunch

Happy playing x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think the author of this thread has poked the preverbial hornets nest and people are stinging like hell lol

I think people who use these forums had the nous to know when a threads is serious or not.

I like banter. Sarcasm and wit are great on here.

I would probably say the reason that these same names reoccur is coz they use these forums the most.

I can understand frustration if your looking for serious coherent answers but what it boils down to is a bit of a laugh x

Happy swinging folks x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!!

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol

Well it would appear that I am the only person to agree with the OP 100%.

I was bullied and called all sorts of horrendous names last week on here. I was referred to in the third person by one poster on my own thread - "Is she taking the piss?". That was one of the least offensive comments and far worse followed. I said nothing to these people in retaliation other than leave me alone.

The one thing I didn't post last week was that when "you" were all having a go at me, I had a massive number of messages in my personal inbox from people saying "They are nasty - Ignore them - they always do this" or "Don't let them upset you" or "I think what you're suggesting is a great idea - I wish I had the confidence to post something like that on the forums" or "this is a win win situation" etc etc. None of them posted on my chain because they didn't want to feel isolated or alienated by the forum massif, and they didn't want to add fuel to the fire. I don't blame them.

Yes some of the comments and responses on the Welsh Forum are very funny, but some of the others are frankly a complete embarrassment to every single man and woman that resides in this country. It is harassment. It's snide. It's turf warfare - and the forum addicts seem to want to protect their territory by subtly trying to humiliate newcomers, people who say something that grates with the clique or those who rarely visit this place.

Carry on being who you are as individuals. Carry on having fun and cracking jokes. But before you take out your anger on your phone or keyboard next time on the forums, have a think about how you'd feel if you were sent messages like that. It's cyberbullying.

I have no idea whether a certain gent on here is being facetious but I think he makes a good point if he's not.

The sad thing is, nothing will change on here. People will still pick holes and have a dig at others. Please remember that it's only funny if the other person is laughing.

I'll probably get my head ripped off now for saying all of this. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. I was put off visiting the Welsh Forum last week after the way I was spoken to and I don't really come here often now so you can say what you like.

I have to agree....

Whilst most days it is fun... there are times when people group together and it can appear cliquey (I'm not saying you are a clique as I get on with you all I said "appear cliquey") to new members. .unknown users etc...

Last week I did see The above lady's post looking for a club buddy and did feel she was jumped on... her morals questioned. .likening her to a prostitute...it did soon come across as bullying ...

When swingers (who are more open minded and less judgemental than normal folk) start judging other swingers we are pretty fkd

Where else can a swinger advertise for a club buddy . I just think if something isn't what you'd necessarily like/do etc there is no need to shoot another member down. .in this case it was that she would provide entry to club by way of a pass/membership etc and ideally the guy pay for room....now whilst lots on here have opinions on that ..it's merely a deal that could have worked well for two consenting adults.... cheap and easy entry for the guy..... and accommodation for the lady...winner right? ??

I seen it and thought why's everyone going crazy over that ?

I think we must all scare lots of others off the Welsh forums ....let's all just live and let live ...

I don't do pegging. ..I don't do bdsm etc but I don't mock or criticise those that do..so why don't we all accept others and whatever it is they are looking to get out of fab. .in above case..an ideal club arrangement ......

Let's show others we can be a friendly bunch

Happy playing x"

I also read this thread and thought similar well said nawty

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do agree with the person who created this topic forum u see the same people going completely wrong direction from the topic. I think those should create a new forum and name it general chat or just enter a chatroom alot easier Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really "

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Firstly this isn't meant in any other way than an observation???

I read the forum most days, and although some topics are brainless or just dull, they are still important to the person who wrongly or rightly wanted to post and hope for an answer???

BUT,,,, then the take over happens!!

It's always the same people, they invade the post and either then start talking between themselves and patting each other on the back and the false laughs and thumbs up off the males!!

It's just got to the point of silly??

If you don't agree or don't like then just ignore!!!

Please stop the take over!!!! I'm sure you know who you are

Don't know if I want this post to be ignored or taken over now!!!! Just to prove the point!!! Lol

Well it would appear that I am the only person to agree with the OP 100%.

I was bullied and called all sorts of horrendous names last week on here. I was referred to in the third person by one poster on my own thread - "Is she taking the piss?". That was one of the least offensive comments and far worse followed. I said nothing to these people in retaliation other than leave me alone.

The one thing I didn't post last week was that when "you" were all having a go at me, I had a massive number of messages in my personal inbox from people saying "They are nasty - Ignore them - they always do this" or "Don't let them upset you" or "I think what you're suggesting is a great idea - I wish I had the confidence to post something like that on the forums" or "this is a win win situation" etc etc. None of them posted on my chain because they didn't want to feel isolated or alienated by the forum massif, and they didn't want to add fuel to the fire. I don't blame them.

Yes some of the comments and responses on the Welsh Forum are very funny, but some of the others are frankly a complete embarrassment to every single man and woman that resides in this country. It is harassment. It's snide. It's turf warfare - and the forum addicts seem to want to protect their territory by subtly trying to humiliate newcomers, people who say something that grates with the clique or those who rarely visit this place.

Carry on being who you are as individuals. Carry on having fun and cracking jokes. But before you take out your anger on your phone or keyboard next time on the forums, have a think about how you'd feel if you were sent messages like that. It's cyberbullying.

I have no idea whether a certain gent on here is being facetious but I think he makes a good point if he's not.

The sad thing is, nothing will change on here. People will still pick holes and have a dig at others. Please remember that it's only funny if the other person is laughing.

I'll probably get my head ripped off now for saying all of this. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. I was put off visiting the Welsh Forum last week after the way I was spoken to and I don't really come here often now so you can say what you like.

I have to agree....

Whilst most days it is fun... there are times when people group together and it can appear cliquey (I'm not saying you are a clique as I get on with you all I said "appear cliquey") to new members. .unknown users etc...

Last week I did see The above lady's post looking for a club buddy and did feel she was jumped on... her morals questioned. .likening her to a prostitute...it did soon come across as bullying ...

When swingers (who are more open minded and less judgemental than normal folk) start judging other swingers we are pretty fkd

Where else can a swinger advertise for a club buddy . I just think if something isn't what you'd necessarily like/do etc there is no need to shoot another member down. .in this case it was that she would provide entry to club by way of a pass/membership etc and ideally the guy pay for room....now whilst lots on here have opinions on that ..it's merely a deal that could have worked well for two consenting adults.... cheap and easy entry for the guy..... and accommodation for the lady...winner right? ??

I seen it and thought why's everyone going crazy over that ?

I think we must all scare lots of others off the Welsh forums ....let's all just live and let live ...

I don't do pegging. ..I don't do bdsm etc but I don't mock or criticise those that do..so why don't we all accept others and whatever it is they are looking to get out of fab. .in above case..an ideal club arrangement ......

Let's show others we can be a friendly bunch

Happy playing x

I also read this thread and thought similar well said nawty "

Thank you xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???"

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it "

I must have missed a bit..I've j

Just read her post through again and can't find the part where she has blamed everyone ?

I can see her say some posts are funny ..some are offensive. ...where does she say every Welsh swinger ?

Instead of arguing (probing the initial point) how about people stepping up and actually saying sorry we didn't mean to hurt or sorry we didn't intend to bully ...or even say nothing and agree to let live????

I felt sorry for her then and still do if I'm honest ...

There are so many people on here that have messaged saying I agree the Welsh forum is scary as they bitch /gang up on etc etc and it's a shame as I have met lots of you and know that isn't the case ..

That thread was uncalled for and unfair and had I commented on it I woukd apologise ... I've been quiet on here lately ..I have indeed bitched myself on occasion..and I apologise for that even ... healthy debates...disagreements yes...but comparisons to prostitutes. .. and general shaming is not the fun we all signed up here for is it ..

Over and out

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By *onkers 76Man  over a year ago

pontypool


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it

I must have missed a bit..I've j

Just read her post through again and can't find the part where she has blamed everyone ?

I can see her say some posts are funny ..some are offensive. ...where does she say every Welsh swinger ?

Instead of arguing (probing the initial point) how about people stepping up and actually saying sorry we didn't mean to hurt or sorry we didn't intend to bully ...or even say nothing and agree to let live????

I felt sorry for her then and still do if I'm honest ...

There are so many people on here that have messaged saying I agree the Welsh forum is scary as they bitch /gang up on etc etc and it's a shame as I have met lots of you and know that isn't the case ..

That thread was uncalled for and unfair and had I commented on it I woukd apologise ... I've been quiet on here lately ..I have indeed bitched myself on occasion..and I apologise for that even ... healthy debates...disagreements yes...but comparisons to prostitutes. .. and general shaming is not the fun we all signed up here for is it ..

Over and out "

Go girl x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I just wish everyone would get on. Be so nice

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By *onkers 76Man  over a year ago

pontypool


"I just wish everyone would get on. Be so nice "

Oh I don't know me and you seem to be getting on lol x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it

I must have missed a bit..I've j

Just read her post through again and can't find the part where she has blamed everyone ?

I can see her say some posts are funny ..some are offensive. ...where does she say every Welsh swinger ?

Instead of arguing (probing the initial point) how about people stepping up and actually saying sorry we didn't mean to hurt or sorry we didn't intend to bully ...or even say nothing and agree to let live????

I felt sorry for her then and still do if I'm honest ...

There are so many people on here that have messaged saying I agree the Welsh forum is scary as they bitch /gang up on etc etc and it's a shame as I have met lots of you and know that isn't the case ..

That thread was uncalled for and unfair and had I commented on it I woukd apologise ... I've been quiet on here lately ..I have indeed bitched myself on occasion..and I apologise for that even ... healthy debates...disagreements yes...but comparisons to prostitutes. .. and general shaming is not the fun we all signed up here for is it ..

Over and out "

Captured it perfectly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it

I must have missed a bit..I've j

Just read her post through again and can't find the part where she has blamed everyone ?

I can see her say some posts are funny ..some are offensive. ...where does she say every Welsh swinger ?

Instead of arguing (probing the initial point) how about people stepping up and actually saying sorry we didn't mean to hurt or sorry we didn't intend to bully ...or even say nothing and agree to let live????

I felt sorry for her then and still do if I'm honest ...

There are so many people on here that have messaged saying I agree the Welsh forum is scary as they bitch /gang up on etc etc and it's a shame as I have met lots of you and know that isn't the case ..

That thread was uncalled for and unfair and had I commented on it I woukd apologise ... I've been quiet on here lately ..I have indeed bitched myself on occasion..and I apologise for that even ... healthy debates...disagreements yes...but comparisons to prostitutes. .. and general shaming is not the fun we all signed up here for is it ..

Over and out "

Well if I had commented on it then I would have said sorry if I offended you

But actually for once I'm not to blame I said nothing to her

So maybe she could check who is was

One person always stepped up and said they thought she was taking the Piss

I don't know why your sniping at me for red

I've not been rude or bullied anyone like I said been great lately and I saw the post and saw her tell a few people if they didn't like it don't comment simple

So I'm sure she is big enough to stand up for herself

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging "

I could get his point if it was about people bitching or being rude

But when it's moaning about people

Having a laugh on the threads let's be honest that's just taking the piss

And actually all people on here are doing now is making the people who regularly comment on the threads feel uncomfortable

So well done this post is doing another thing the op moaned about but it's ok carry on lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging

"

I totally agree with the op and giggles and myself believe it can be to gain popularity at times. Running for the hills now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hit the nail on the head with your hard hat Boobs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Apologies if anything I say has been covered already as I have not read the whole thread yet.

When you post on a public forum you leave yourself open to comment from anyone who wishes to join in with the thread. You can not dictate to others what they are and are not allowed to post whether you like what they are saying or not. It is a public forum and each poster is entitled to express their opinion whether you agree with it or not. Just because you disagree with something it doesn't make it wrong.

Unfortunately there will be people who deliberately upset the apple cart as they enjoy to provoke reaction and cause animosity. It is the nature of the beast so to speak. That being said there are also times when it is done without malice and purely because somebody has a strong opposing view and wants to offer an alternative viewpoint.

It is entirely possible to change your viewpoint on something if you are open to reasonable discussion or debate without being abusive or making personal attack. I have seen people play the victim on here whilst contradicting this by being downright nasty themselves.

The sooner people accept that it is ok to have differing opinions but it is the manner in which you express them that matters? the easier it will be to have a healthier more balanced forum. I doubt that will never happen on here though.

As far as cliques go. Same with everything else on here. You get out what you put on. If you make the effort to join in you will get to know other regular posters and might find that other people then view you as part of the hypothetical clique. My point being there isn't one unless you view regular posters (who often know each other outside of forum too) to be a clique.

You need a thick skin at times on these forums it can get a little heated but it can also be really good fun and you can learn something new everyday. You can also use it as a filter to find out more about peoples personalities which can be a useful tool.

Fab forums are not unique in the patterns they display. All forums go off topic and conversations veer off in different directions as new questions emerge in the thread. It can be steered back on track too with a bit of intervention.

My own personal views, people will only treat you how you allow them to. If you have an opinion be prepared to back it up and for it to be challenged. I try not to let words on a screen get to me too much but then I have a very thick skin and a really strong personality and I'm not afraid to express my opinion. I totally get that other people are not the same and why they might feel intimidated but we are all adults and need to be accountable for ourselves in the big bad world.

I enjoy the forums and hope that people will continue to use them and that new people will join in and feel comfortable having their say.

B x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Apologies if anything I say has been covered already as I have not read the whole thread yet.

When you post on a public forum you leave yourself open to comment from anyone who wishes to join in with the thread. You can not dictate to others what they are and are not allowed to post whether you like what they are saying or not. It is a public forum and each poster is entitled to express their opinion whether you agree with it or not. Just because you disagree with something it doesn't make it wrong.

Unfortunately there will be people who deliberately upset the apple cart as they enjoy to provoke reaction and cause animosity. It is the nature of the beast so to speak. That being said there are also times when it is done without malice and purely because somebody has a strong opposing view and wants to offer an alternative viewpoint.

It is entirely possible to change your viewpoint on something if you are open to reasonable discussion or debate without being abusive or making personal attack. I have seen people play the victim on here whilst contradicting this by being downright nasty themselves.

The sooner people accept that it is ok to have differing opinions but it is the manner in which you express them that matters? the easier it will be to have a healthier more balanced forum. I doubt that will never happen on here though.

As far as cliques go. Same with everything else on here. You get out what you put on. If you make the effort to join in you will get to know other regular posters and might find that other people then view you as part of the hypothetical clique. My point being there isn't one unless you view regular posters (who often know each other outside of forum too) to be a clique.

You need a thick skin at times on these forums it can get a little heated but it can also be really good fun and you can learn something new everyday. You can also use it as a filter to find out more about peoples personalities which can be a useful tool.

Fab forums are not unique in the patterns they display. All forums go off topic and conversations veer off in different directions as new questions emerge in the thread. It can be steered back on track too with a bit of intervention.

My own personal views, people will only treat you how you allow them to. If you have an opinion be prepared to back it up and for it to be challenged. I try not to let words on a screen get to me too much but then I have a very thick skin and a really strong personality and I'm not afraid to express my opinion. I totally get that other people are not the same and why they might feel intimidated but we are all adults and need to be accountable for ourselves in the big bad world.

I enjoy the forums and hope that people will continue to use them and that new people will join in and feel comfortable having their say.

B x"

Well said and couldn't of put it better

You tend to find the ones moaning about the bitching are the biggest culprits...

Fickle and hypocritical springs to mind lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging

I totally agree with the op and giggles and myself believe it can be to gain popularity at times. Running for the hills now "

I can't see you I'm here waiting lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Thanks. Now a question. kiss, fuck ? Pass

Joking by the way. Happy Friday everyone. X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ha ha it was still light and airy on all the threads until people turned it nasty and personal

Now people seem scared to comment on threads in fear of being judged or called names

So thank you to all whom commented on here slatting off the regular threaders mission complete ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think some people should really practice what they preach on this site lol.....

It was only a few weeks ago people where quiet happy to drag me down on a public forum and kick me while I was down.

I was one of the ones that pm'd pr girl and said ignore as I really felt for her.

I don't bother on here much now as things I write get twisted and before you know it there is a bitch fest which is normally by the same people taking things the way they want to read them.

I personally think the op did well posting this as he knew what was going to happen.

But I do feel more people proberbly do agree with him but are to scared to say anything

Anyways happy swinging

I totally agree with the op and giggles and myself believe it can be to gain popularity at times. Running for the hills now

I can't see you I'm here waiting lol"

Smoke signals? Lol xxx

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By *ubicinchMan  over a year ago

Gwynedd

People as a rule will always behave the same on forums, whether it is about Ford Focus owners or fucking someones' wife some are self moderating , others are quite heavily moderated, and will clamp down on off topic deviations etc. I'm afraid you have to take it for what it and it's participants is; it is unlikely to change, and comments about it usually only provoke more.

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon


"Apologies if anything I say has been covered already as I have not read the whole thread yet.

When you post on a public forum you leave yourself open to comment from anyone who wishes to join in with the thread. You can not dictate to others what they are and are not allowed to post whether you like what they are saying or not. It is a public forum and each poster is entitled to express their opinion whether you agree with it or not. Just because you disagree with something it doesn't make it wrong.

Unfortunately there will be people who deliberately upset the apple cart as they enjoy to provoke reaction and cause animosity. It is the nature of the beast so to speak. That being said there are also times when it is done without malice and purely because somebody has a strong opposing view and wants to offer an alternative viewpoint.

It is entirely possible to change your viewpoint on something if you are open to reasonable discussion or debate without being abusive or making personal attack. I have seen people play the victim on here whilst contradicting this by being downright nasty themselves.

The sooner people accept that it is ok to have differing opinions but it is the manner in which you express them that matters? the easier it will be to have a healthier more balanced forum. I doubt that will never happen on here though.

As far as cliques go. Same with everything else on here. You get out what you put on. If you make the effort to join in you will get to know other regular posters and might find that other people then view you as part of the hypothetical clique. My point being there isn't one unless you view regular posters (who often know each other outside of forum too) to be a clique.

You need a thick skin at times on these forums it can get a little heated but it can also be really good fun and you can learn something new everyday. You can also use it as a filter to find out more about peoples personalities which can be a useful tool.

Fab forums are not unique in the patterns they display. All forums go off topic and conversations veer off in different directions as new questions emerge in the thread. It can be steered back on track too with a bit of intervention.

My own personal views, people will only treat you how you allow them to. If you have an opinion be prepared to back it up and for it to be challenged. I try not to let words on a screen get to me too much but then I have a very thick skin and a really strong personality and I'm not afraid to express my opinion. I totally get that other people are not the same and why they might feel intimidated but we are all adults and need to be accountable for ourselves in the big bad world.

I enjoy the forums and hope that people will continue to use them and that new people will join in and feel comfortable having their say.

B x"

Spot on

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

" wrong doing?? "

Who says so?

You, OP? Do you now set the rules about how a forum should run?

Perhaps it would be judicious for someone to post the definition of the word "forum" for you....oh, wait... whats that coming through cyber-space?

"Forums prefer a premise of open and free discussion and often adopt de facto standards. Most common topics on forums include questions, comparisons, polls of opinion as well as debates. It is not uncommon for nonsense or unsocial behavior to sprout as people lose temper, especially if the topic is controversial. Poor understanding of differences in values of the participants is a common problem on forums. Because replies to a topic are often worded aimed at someone's point of view, discussion will usually go slightly off into several directions as people question each other's validity, sources and so on. Circular discussion and ambiguity in replies can extend for several tens of posts of a thread eventually ending when everyone gives up or attention spans waver and a more interesting subject takes over. It is not uncommon for debate to end in ad hominem attacks."

Doncha just love a smart-arse lol? "

I would agree with this point totally, if it was the majority of fabbers doing so rather than a self elected few that spoil the discussion topic, and turn the majority away through bordom or fear or ridicule

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfecs a way of biting back and making look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

OP, in all seriousness. ..you calling people wannabes for posting and having a laugh is bound to get people's backs up...me included

You know nothing about people's personal lives, and if people can come on here, make friends and have a bit of a laugh then good for them.

How do you know I don't have confidence issues for instance, like I said I have been here years and only just started posting (I haven't btw)

Calling people wannabes for joining in is down right insulting. We can all joke about it, however, how do you know that you havent scared others away from joining in? "

If I have insulted anyone then that wasn't meant, all I was originally pointing out was an observation, I havnt singled any person out and all conclusions have been made by individuals without any prompting x

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By *ourflexiblefriendMan  over a year ago

wherever you want me to be

hi Nikkei, you are so right in your observations, it's happened a few times to me xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it just me or do some people not like having things pointed out?? This imperfect world has a way of biting back and making people look a bit silly, what's started quite clearly as just an observation and in no way meaning to cause upset, seems to have escalated to the point where some agree that they are doing it( by their own admission ) but again feel it is their duty to shout down any idea of wrong doing??

As a few have pointed out, please feel free to discuss any topic you like I'm all for that, and if you are all mates you shouldn't need a forum to do that with each other!! If it was a social would you sit on someone else's table and shout over them???

" wrong doing?? "

Who says so?

You, OP? Do you now set the rules about how a forum should run?

Perhaps it would be judicious for someone to post the definition of the word "forum" for you....oh, wait... whats that coming through cyber-space?

"Forums prefer a premise of open and free discussion and often adopt de facto standards. Most common topics on forums include questions, comparisons, polls of opinion as well as debates. It is not uncommon for nonsense or unsocial behavior to sprout as people lose temper, especially if the topic is controversial. Poor understanding of differences in values of the participants is a common problem on forums. Because replies to a topic are often worded aimed at someone's point of view, discussion will usually go slightly off into several directions as people question each other's validity, sources and so on. Circular discussion and ambiguity in replies can extend for several tens of posts of a thread eventually ending when everyone gives up or attention spans waver and a more interesting subject takes over. It is not uncommon for debate to end in ad hominem attacks."

Doncha just love a smart-arse lol?

I would agree with this point totally, if it was the majority of fabbers doing so rather than a self elected few that spoil the discussion topic, and turn the majority away through bordom or fear or ridicule"

In your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm gonna leave them to ponder in their little negative worlds

While i have a laugh with fun friendly people on other threads

End of

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Firstly I appoligise for not being around (life took over) to respond,,

From the amount discussion from people it does seem to have caused a storm,, which I hope has at least made the self elected few think about their actions and the reactions that they cause,,

The examples given in the discussion are so obviously hurtful to the individuals concerned but are still being justified but calling it humour or by deflection, justification wares off and reality then sets in, I hope this happens but I fear it won't!!!!

The original post did not mention bullying just annoyance but if the cap fits??????

Judging by the amounts of pm's I've received it appears that this subject has a lot of support with fab members, and hopefully the self elected few that are still defending their annoying actions will take notice,,

In my opinion (obviously) x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't often comment on the threads no on here often enough to bother that much but when I have I have noticed the odd thread that gets carried away. The kiss,fuck, pass ones seem to be the worst for it as one certain females or female of a couple comments and then it's like who can get in there first to comment after her. In a look at me look at me kind of way.

Majority of the other threads I find amusing and if things have gone off topic I just skip through till its back on track. From going in the other forums I can't see any difference between what happens in either the lounge, swingers chat, USA or Ireland. Regulars banter with other regulars. There may have been some posts commented that have been harsh, I just commented on another Welsh thread that went that way. But at the end of the day this is the Internet. Not the playground or workplace. You can only let things bully you if you let them!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Come on now everyone. It's Friday evening (just about ), bank holiday weekend .... surely you've all got better things to do than keep adding to forum threads about forum threads and getting your knickers in a twist!

I'm getting ready to party ... get a grip you'all and have a FUN weekend!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Come on now everyone. It's Friday evening (just about ), bank holiday weekend .... surely you've all got better things to do than keep adding to forum threads about forum threads and getting your knickers in a twist!

I'm getting ready to party ... get a grip you'all and have a FUN weekend! "

Totally agree!! People bitin obviously feel its aimed at them, in that case just drop it and move on and start another random chat topic and name it that lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Come on now everyone. It's Friday evening (just about ), bank holiday weekend .... surely you've all got better things to do than keep adding to forum threads about forum threads and getting your knickers in a twist!

I'm getting ready to party ... get a grip you'all and have a FUN weekend!

Totally agree!! People bitin obviously feel its aimed at them, in that case just drop it and move on and start another random chat topic and name it that lol"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

U started something now op lol. Run lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well

We all manages to stick to this subject

And maybe some people don't feel comfortable in chat

So now others are going to start dictating what and where others can write lol

It just gets better if you ask me

Weeks of fun no arguing to bitchinh and the other negative threads are the ones moaning about people having a laugh on the threads

Kind of says it all really

To clarify ....I'm not moaning or bitching. .. agreeing that the poster I quoted has lots of points ...

That thread turned into a gang setting up on her... likening her to a prostitute. .. all went too far ..

Also a case of irony here "so now others are going to start dictating what others can write" ....yes it seemed that way the other day..a lady put a polite thread up inviting guys to inbox her with interest in attending a club....in return for accommodation. ..and she got set upon...in mean..this is a swinging site yeah???

Well not everyone that enjoys a laugh on the threads slatted her

So maybe she should just address the people who did

That's all I'm saying

Instead of blaming everyone for it

I must have missed a bit..I've j

Just read her post through again and can't find the part where she has blamed everyone ?

I can see her say some posts are funny ..some are offensive. ...where does she say every Welsh swinger ?

Instead of arguing (probing the initial point) how about people stepping up and actually saying sorry we didn't mean to hurt or sorry we didn't intend to bully ...or even say nothing and agree to let live????

I felt sorry for her then and still do if I'm honest ...

There are so many people on here that have messaged saying I agree the Welsh forum is scary as they bitch /gang up on etc etc and it's a shame as I have met lots of you and know that isn't the case ..

That thread was uncalled for and unfair and had I commented on it I woukd apologise ... I've been quiet on here lately ..I have indeed bitched myself on occasion..and I apologise for that even ... healthy debates...disagreements yes...but comparisons to prostitutes. .. and general shaming is not the fun we all signed up here for is it ..

Over and out

Well if I had commented on it then I would have said sorry if I offended you

But actually for once I'm not to blame I said nothing to her

So maybe she could check who is was

One person always stepped up and said they thought she was taking the Piss

I don't know why your sniping at me for red

I've not been rude or bullied anyone like I said been great lately and I saw the post and saw her tell a few people if they didn't like it don't comment simple

So I'm sure she is big enough to stand up for herself "

Not sniping at you at all honest. ..text comes across that way sometimes. ..I'm not

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

tighten up with a 14 mm spanner.

whoo hoo 14 sleeps.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"tighten up with a 14 mm spanner.

whoo hoo 14 sleeps."

going somewhere buck???

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