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 .nobody in our house smokes so he's obviously seen this in the public.
it's good that your trying to give up though.  | |||
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"Oh, and there's income tax, VAT or other duty on the sale of everything, so let's go the whole hog and ban everything, eh?" Totally agree with you
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"no fire but there is a vapor that looks like smoke. to children it looks like smoking and is just as influential as the real thing. I'm all for the new ban." 'Just as influential as the real thing' - Who told you that? Don't mind providing a link to that if there is one do you? This is the best bet of getting people to quit and yet they won't to ban it. You should treat your e-cig like a normal cig before the ban, use common sence and morals. Don't walk around a supermarket smoking it, don't smoke it in the middle of a restaurant, smoke it in a child free pub (they should be anyway). They don't all look like normal cigarettes, you don't hold all of them like a normal cigarette and most decent retailers won't sell to non smokers or kids. We should ban booze aswell as kids see people drinking and think its ok. | |||
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"some interesting points in here." Yes, you seem to have missed one I made above directly to you | |||
"some interesting points in here. Yes, you seem to have missed one I made above directly to you" please enlighten me fella | |||
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"Surely as the ecig has pretty much come about as yet another thing to help people stop smoking then surely expecting people to use them only where they would have gone for a real cig is not too much to ask. I encountered someone who sat next to me in local takeaway last weekend puffing away on it. Would she has sat there doing it with a real cig...no so why should she be allowed to do it with an ecig. In doing so she clearly looked to be more reliant on the ecig than she would be on real cig as she would have not sat there next to me in takeaway puffing on a real one. I am an ex smoker..30-40 a day and stopped and my last one was 2006. I don't think it's too much to ask for people to go outside to use them as they would have had to do if a real cig. You see people that would have had to pop out for cig puffing on these things all day long ...that is NOT helping you give up.. The biggest hurdle when giving up is breaking the habit.." you will always get the odd one that thinks they can smoke in supermarkets etc, it dosnt warrant a total ban though, but if you think it does warrant a total ban then you must by all logic warrant a total ban on drinking right across the board, as theres always the odd one that will drink and drive. Alcohol is the biggest killer in britain by far ban that | |||
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"some interesting points in here. Yes, you seem to have missed one I made above directly to you please enlighten me fella" Sure 'to children it looks like smoking and is just as influential as the real thing' You wrote that in your post at the top. You say it as if its factual and you have read it written by a so called 'expert'. If so, please could you share that link. Is that comment opinion or factual with research to back it up or simply your personal opinion. | |||
"The above point about showing yourself using an E cig in public is true. Kids see it and they may well want to copy their adult peers though I've yet to see a kid use one. And the other point that stands out is that smokers are using e cigs to have nicotine anywhere they like. (take away outlets, restaurants, busses etc) Is it another example of PC or a public health issue? Is it wrong to eat in public? Does that promote obescety in kids? Alcohol too. Same argument? Now I,ve given no opinions on this just promoting the debate ... so dont shoot at me fab peeps," Your very first sentance seems to be an opinion. How do you know its true? | |||
"One of the reasons they are looking to ban it, is its not a regulated or proven product. Cigs have been around for years and thier downside have been scientifically proven many times. Vapours and oils etc seem cleaner as they are smokeless but there haven't been many cast iron studies into what your inhaling. So until someone does find out what your replacing the coffin nails with be careful. You could be taking in something worse than the cig dudes and dudesses..... Who knows the truth? " Id bet my last penny that these things bought from correct retailers who self regulate their products that infact they are much safer than a cigarette. Anyone have the full list of ingredients to what goes in those? Most decent e-cig retailers at least have ingredints on their packaging. | |||
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"The above point about showing yourself using an E cig in public is true. Kids see it and they may well want to copy their adult peers though I've yet to see a kid use one. And the other point that stands out is that smokers are using e cigs to have nicotine anyOwhere they like. (take away outlets, restaurants, busses etc) Is it another example of PC or a public health issue? Is it wrong to eat in public? Does that promote obescety in kids? Alcohol too. Same argument? Now I,ve given no opinions on this just promoting the debate ... so dont shoot at me fab peeps, Your very first sentance seems to be an opinion. How do you know its true?" the original post was asking for opinions and that is what we have here.same as what yourtalking it's your opinion.we do not need to post links to facts for opinions.our you too would need to do the same on your nicotine saving crusade. | |||
"One of the reasons they are looking to ban it, is its not a regulated or proven product. Cigs have been around for years and thier downside have been scientifically proven many times. Vapours and oils etc seem cleaner as they are smokeless but there haven't been many cast iron studies into what your inhaling. So until someone does find out what your replacing the coffin nails with be careful. You could be taking in something worse than the cig dudes and dudesses..... Who knows the truth? Id bet my last penny that these things bought from correct retailers who self regulate their products that infact they are much safer than a cigarette. Anyone have the full list of ingredients to what goes in those? Most decent e-cig retailers at least have ingredints on their packaging." do you have a link to prove your point? | |||
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"Now someone post a list of the ingredients in a cigarette. Go on, I dare you. Guess what? It can't be done. There are over 4000 different substances in a cigarette and counting. So let's ban E-Cigs. That's clearly the way forward for those fuckwits in Cardiff." • Acetanisole • Acetic Acid • Acetoin • Acetophenone • 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane • 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine • 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran • Acetylpyrazine • 2-Acetylpyridine • 3-Acetylpyridine • 2-Acetylthiazole • Aconitic Acid • dl-Alanine • Alfalfa Extract • Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil • Allyl Hexanoate • Allyl Ionone • Almond Bitter Oil • Ambergris Tincture • Ammonia • Ammonium Bicarbonate • Ammonium Hydroxide • Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic • Ammonium Sulfide • Amyl Alcohol • Amyl Butyrate • Amyl Formate • Amyl Octanoate • alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde • Amyris Oil • trans-Anethole • Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil • Anise • Anise Star, Extract and Oils • Anisyl Acetate • Anisyl Alcohol • Anisyl Formate • Anisyl Phenylacetate • Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins • Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate • 1-Arginine • Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil • Ascorbic Acid • 1-Asparagine Monohydrate • 1-Aspartic Acid • Balsam Peru and Oil • Basil Oil • Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil • Beeswax White • Beet Juice Concentrate • Benzaldehyde • Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal • Benzoic Acid, Benzoin • Benzoin Resin • Benzophenone • Benzyl Alcohol • Benzyl Benzoate • Benzyl Butyrate • Benzyl Cinnamate • Benzyl Propionate • Benzyl Salicylate • Bergamot Oil • Bisabolene • Black Currant Buds Absolute • Borneol • Bornyl Acetate • Buchu Leaf Oil • 1,3-Butanediol • 2,3-Butanedione • 1-Butanol • 2-Butanone • 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One • Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil • Butyl Acetate • Butyl Butyrate • Butyl Butyryl Lactate • Butyl Isovalerate • Butyl Phenylacetate • Butyl Undecylenate • 3-Butylidenephthalide • Butyric Acid] • Cadinene • Caffeine • Calcium Carbonate • Camphene • Cananga Oil • Capsicum Oleoresin • Caramel Color • Caraway Oil • Carbon Dioxide • Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder • Carob Bean and Extract • beta-Carotene • Carrot Oil • Carvacrol • 4-Carvomenthenol • 1-Carvone • beta-Caryophyllene • beta-Caryophyllene Oxide • Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract • Cassia Bark Oil • Cassie Absolute and Oil • Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute • Cedar Leaf Oil • Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana • Cedrol • Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin • Cellulose Fiber • Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract • Chicory Extract • Chocolate • Cinnamaldehyde • Cinnamic Acid • Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract • Cinnamyl Acetate • Cinnamyl Alcohol • Cinnamyl Cinnamate • Cinnamyl Isovalerate • Cinnamyl Propionate • Citral • Citric Acid • Citronella Oil • dl-Citronellol • Citronellyl Butyrate • itronellyl Isobutyrate • Civet Absolute • Clary Oil • Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract • Cocoa • Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder • Coconut Oil • Coffee • Cognac White and Green Oil • Copaiba Oil • Coriander Extract and Oil • Corn Oil • Corn Silk • Costus Root Oil • Cubeb Oil • Cuminaldehyde • para-Cymene • 1-Cysteine Dandelion Root Solid Extract • Davana Oil • 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal • delta-Decalactone • gamma-Decalactone • Decanal • Decanoic Acid • 1-Decanol • 2-Decenal • Dehydromenthofurolactone • Diethyl Malonate • Diethyl Sebacate • 2,3-Diethylpyrazine • Dihydro Anethole • 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine • Dill Seed Oil and Extract • meta-Dimethoxybenzene • para-Dimethoxybenzene • 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol • Dimethyl Succinate • 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione • 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione • 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene • 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5- Dihydrofuran-2-One • 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien- 2-One • 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid • 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone • alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol • alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate • alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate • 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine • 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine • 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine • Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone • delta-Dodecalactone • gamma-Dodecalactone • para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde • Ethyl 10-Undecenoate • Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate • Ethyl Acetate • Ethyl Acetoacetate • Ethyl Alcohol • Ethyl Benzoate • Ethyl Butyrate • Ethyl Cinnamate • Ethyl Decanoate • Ethyl Fenchol • Ethyl Furoate • Ethyl Heptanoate • Ethyl Hexanoate • Ethyl Isovalerate • Ethyl Lactate • Ethyl Laurate • Ethyl Levulinate • Ethyl Maltol • Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate • Ethyl Myristate • Ethyl Nonanoate • Ethyl Octadecanoate • Ethyl Octanoate • Ethyl Oleate • Ethyl Palmitate • Ethyl Phenylacetate • Ethyl Propionate • Ethyl Salicylate • Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate • Ethyl Valerate • Ethyl Vanillin • 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine • 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 - Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One • 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine • 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2 (5H)-Furanone • 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine • 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde • 4-Ethylguaiacol • para-Ethylphenol • 3-Ethylpyridine • Eucalyptol • Farnesol • D-Fenchone • Fennel Sweet Oil • Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute • Fig Juice Concentrate • Food Starch Modified • Furfuryl Mercaptan • 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One • Galbanum Oil • Genet Absolute • Gentian Root Extract • Geraniol • Geranium Rose Oil • Geranyl Acetate • Geranyl Butyrate • Geranyl Formate • Geranyl Isovalerate • Geranyl Phenylacetate • Ginger Oil and Oleoresin • 1-Glutamic Acid • 1-Glutamine • Glycerol • Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated • Grape Juice Concentrate • Guaiac Wood Oil • Guaiacol • Guar Gum • 2,4-Heptadienal • gamma-Heptalactone • Heptanoic Acid • 2-Heptanone • 3-Hepten-2-One • 2-Hepten-4-One • 4-Heptenal • trans -2-Heptenal • Heptyl Acetate • omega-6-Hexadecenlactone • gamma-Hexalactone • Hexanal • Hexanoic Acid • 2-Hexen-1-Ol • 3-Hexen-1-Ol • cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate • 2-Hexenal • 3-Hexenoic Acid • trans-2-Hexenoic Acid • cis-3-Hexenyl Formate • Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate • Hexyl Acetate • Hexyl Alcohol • Hexyl Phenylacetate • 1-Histidine • Honey • Hops Oil • Hydrolyzed Milk Solids • Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins • 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta-Lactone • 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone • 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One • 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone • 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde • 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone • Hydroxycitronellal • 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane • 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone • Hyssop Oil • Immortelle Absolute and Extract • alpha-Ionone • beta-Ionone • alpha-Irone • Isoamyl Acetate • Isoamyl Benzoate • Isoamyl Butyrate • Isoamyl Cinnamate • Isoamyl Formate, IsoamylHexanoate • Isoamyl Isovalerate • Isoamyl Octanoate • Isoamyl Phenylacetate • Isobornyl Acetate • Isobutyl Acetate • Isobutyl Alcohol • Isobutyl Cinnamate • Isobutyl Phenylacetate • Isobutyl Salicylate • 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine • alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol • Isobutyraldehyde • Isobutyric Acid • d,l-Isoleucine • alpha-Isomethylionone • 2-Isopropylphenol • Isovaleric Acid • Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil • Kola Nut Extract • Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin • Lactic Acid • Lauric Acid • Lauric Aldehyde • Lavandin Oil • Lavender Oil • Lemon Oil and Extract • Lemongrass Oil • 1-Leucine • Levulinic Acid • Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder • Lime Oil • Linalool • Linalool Oxide • Linalyl Acetate • Linden Flowers • Lovage Oil And Extract • 1-Lysine] • Mace Powder, Extract and Oil • Magnesium Carbonate • Malic Acid • Malt and Malt Extract • Maltodextrin • Maltol • Maltyl Isobutyrate • Mandarin Oil • Maple Syrup and Concentrate • Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil • para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One • Menthol • Menthone • Menthyl Acetate • dl-Methionine • Methoprene • 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol • 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol • para-Methoxybenzaldehyde • 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One • 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone • 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone • Methoxypyrazine • Methyl 2-Furoate • Methyl 2-Octynoate • Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone • Methyl Anisate • Methyl Anthranilate • Methyl Benzoate • Methyl Cinnamate • Methyl Dihydrojasmonate • Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated • Methyl Isovalerate • Methyl Linoleate (48%) • Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture • Methyl Naphthyl Ketone • Methyl Nicotinate • Methyl Phenylacetate • Methyl Salicylate • Methyl Sulfide • 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone • 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone • 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal • 5-Methyl-2-Thiophene-carboxaldehyde • 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One • 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde • 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One • 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene • 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One • 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde • 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One • 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol • 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole • Methyl-alpha-Ionone • Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid • 4-Methylacetophenone • para-Methylanisole • alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate • alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol • 2-Methylbutyraldehyde • 3-Methylbutyraldehyde • 2-Methylbutyric Acid • alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde • Methylcyclopentenolone • 2-Methylheptanoic Acid • 2-Methylhexanoic Acid • 3-Methylpentanoic Acid • 4-Methylpentanoic Acid • 2-Methylpyrazine • 5-Methylquinoxaline • 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One • (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers) • 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde • Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate • 2-Methylvaleric Acid • Mimosa Absolute and Extract • Molasses Extract and Tincture • Mountain Maple Solid Extract • Mullein Flowers • Myristaldehyde • Myristic Acid • Myrrh Oil • beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether • Nerol • Neroli Bigarde Oil • Nerolidol • Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal • 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol • gamma-Nonalactone • Nonanal • Nonanoic Acid • Nonanone • trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol • 2-Nonenal • Nonyl Acetate • Nutmeg Powder and Oil • Oak Chips Extract and Oil • Oak Moss Absolute • 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%) • delta-Octalactone • gamma-Octalactone • Octanal • Octanoic Acid • 1-Octanol • 2-Octanone • 3-Octen-2-One • 1-Octen-3-Ol • 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate • 2-Octenal • Octyl Isobutyrate • Oleic Acid • Olibanum Oil • Opoponax Oil And Gum • Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute • Orange Oil and Extract • Origanum Oil • Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract • Palmarosa Oil • Palmitic Acid • Parsley Seed Oil • Patchouli Oil • omega-Pentadecalactone • 2,3-Pentanedione • 2-Pentanone • 4-Pentenoic Acid • 2-Pentylpyridine • Pepper Oil, Black And White • Peppermint Oil • Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil • Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil • alpha-Phellandrene • 2-Phenenthyl Acetate • Phenenthyl Alcohol • Phenethyl Butyrate • Phenethyl Cinnamate • Phenethyl Isobutyrate • Phenethyl Isovalerate • Phenethyl Phenylacetate • Phenethyl Salicylate • 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol • 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol • 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal • 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol • 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One • Phenylacetaldehyde • Phenylacetic Acid • 1-Phenylalanine • 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde • 3-Phenylpropionic Acid • 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate • 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate • 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran • Phosphoric Acid • Pimenta Leaf Oil • Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch • Pineapple Juice Concentrate • alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene • D-Piperitone • Piperonal • Pipsissewa Leaf Extract • Plum Juice • Potassium Sorbate • 1-Proline • Propenylguaethol • Propionic Acid • Propyl Acetate • Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate • Propylene Glycol • 3-Propylidenephthalide • Prune Juice and Concentrate • Pyridine • Pyroligneous Acid And Extract • Pyrrole • Pyruvic Acid • Raisin Juice Concentrate • Rhodinol • Rose Absolute and Oil • Rosemary Oil • Rum • Rum Ether • Rye Extract • Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin • Salicylaldehyde • Sandalwood Oil, Yellow • Sclareolide • Skatole • Smoke Flavor • Snakeroot Oil • Sodium Acetate • Sodium Benzoate • Sodium Bicarbonate • Sodium Carbonate • Sodium Chloride • Sodium Citrate • Sodium Hydroxide • Solanone • Spearmint Oil • Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil • Sucrose Octaacetate • Sugar Alcohols • Sugars • Tagetes Oil • Tannic Acid • Tartaric Acid • Tea Leaf and Absolute • alpha-Terpineol • Terpinolene • Terpinyl Acetate • 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline • 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane • 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6- Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone • 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine • Thiamine Hydrochloride • Thiazole • 1-Threonine • Thyme Oil, White and Red • Thymol • Tobacco Extracts • Tochopherols (mixed) • Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract • Tolualdehydes • para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate • para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde • para-Tolyl Acetate • para-Tolyl Isobutyrate • para-Tolyl Phenylacetate • Triacetin • 2-Tridecanone • 2-Tridecenal • Triethyl Citrate • 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol • para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol • 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1- Enyl)But-2-En-4-One • 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2- Ene-1,4-Dione • 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1, 3-Dienyl Methan • 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1, 3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One • 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone • 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine • 1-Tyrosine • delta-Undercalactone • gamma-Undecalactone • Undecanal • 2-Undecanone, 1 • 0-Undecenal • Urea • Valencene • Valeraldehyde • Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder • Valeric Acid • gamma-Valerolactone • Valine • Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin • Vanillin • Veratraldehyde • Vetiver Oil • Vinegar • Violet Leaf Absolute • Walnut Hull Extract • Water • Wheat Extract And Flour • Wild Cherry Bark Extract • Wine and Wine Sherry • Xanthan Gum • 3,4-Xylenol • Yeast Phew !!! | |||
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"One of the reasons they are looking to ban it, is its not a regulated or proven product. Cigs have been around for years and thier downside have been scientifically proven many times. Vapours and oils etc seem cleaner as they are smokeless but there haven't been many cast iron studies into what your inhaling. So until someone does find out what your replacing the coffin nails with be careful. You could be taking in something worse than the cig dudes and dudesses..... Who knows the truth? Id bet my last penny that these things bought from correct retailers who self regulate their products that infact they are much safer than a cigarette. Anyone have the full list of ingredients to what goes in those? Most decent e-cig retailers at least have ingredints on their packaging. do you have a link to prove your point?" Been away for a few days. Thankfully someone has posted a link with the ingredients, my supplier has that on the packaging but I dont want to advertise here. We can only guess that kids see this as a good idea to smoke, we don't know for sure. You could call that a guess. The best bet is to ask as many vapors how they feel health wise since changing what they smoke/vape. The tabacco industry is paying so called experts to come out and be negative towards e-cigs. I feel healthier now than I have for a few decades and speaking with others who have changed they feel the same. | |||
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"OK. So we ban smoking in public places. Great idea! No doubt in my mind its a good thing (and I am a smoker). So some one invents a smokeless alternative for those wishing to give up smoking. Great idea. No passive smoke and no apparent harm to anyone else. (not proven) So the Welsh assembly in their wisdom ban the public use of them. E ciggs and patches are helping so many quit the habit, so why ban their use.??" You'd be better addressing that question to British American Tobacco and Imperial Tobacco. They're the ones greasing the corrupt palms of the tossers in Cardiff and Westminster. | |||
"Now someone post a list of the ingredients in a cigarette. Go on, I dare you. Guess what? It can't be done. There are over 4000 different substances in a cigarette and counting. So let's ban E-Cigs. That's clearly the way forward for those fuckwits in Cardiff. • Acetanisole • Acetic Acid • Acetoin • Acetophenone • 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane • 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine • 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran • Acetylpyrazine • 2-Acetylpyridine • 3-Acetylpyridine • 2-Acetylthiazole • Aconitic Acid • dl-Alanine • Alfalfa Extract • Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil • Allyl Hexanoate • Allyl Ionone • Almond Bitter Oil • Ambergris Tincture • Ammonia • Ammonium Bicarbonate • Ammonium Hydroxide • Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic • Ammonium Sulfide • Amyl Alcohol • Amyl Butyrate • Amyl Formate • Amyl Octanoate • alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde • Amyris Oil • trans-Anethole • Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil • Anise • Anise Star, Extract and Oils • Anisyl Acetate • Anisyl Alcohol • Anisyl Formate • Anisyl Phenylacetate • Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins • Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate • 1-Arginine • Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil • Ascorbic Acid • 1-Asparagine Monohydrate • 1-Aspartic Acid • Balsam Peru and Oil • Basil Oil • Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil • Beeswax White • Beet Juice Concentrate • Benzaldehyde • Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal • Benzoic Acid, Benzoin • Benzoin Resin • Benzophenone • Benzyl Alcohol • Benzyl Benzoate • Benzyl Butyrate • Benzyl Cinnamate • Benzyl Propionate • Benzyl Salicylate • Bergamot Oil • Bisabolene • Black Currant Buds Absolute • Borneol • Bornyl Acetate • Buchu Leaf Oil • 1,3-Butanediol • 2,3-Butanedione • 1-Butanol • 2-Butanone • 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One • Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil • Butyl Acetate • Butyl Butyrate • Butyl Butyryl Lactate • Butyl Isovalerate • Butyl Phenylacetate • Butyl Undecylenate • 3-Butylidenephthalide • Butyric Acid] • Cadinene • Caffeine • Calcium Carbonate • Camphene • Cananga Oil • Capsicum Oleoresin • Caramel Color • Caraway Oil • Carbon Dioxide • Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder • Carob Bean and Extract • beta-Carotene • Carrot Oil • Carvacrol • 4-Carvomenthenol • 1-Carvone • beta-Caryophyllene • beta-Caryophyllene Oxide • Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract • Cassia Bark Oil • Cassie Absolute and Oil • Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute • Cedar Leaf Oil • Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana • Cedrol • Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin • Cellulose Fiber • Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract • Chicory Extract • Chocolate • Cinnamaldehyde • Cinnamic Acid • Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract • Cinnamyl Acetate • Cinnamyl Alcohol • Cinnamyl Cinnamate • Cinnamyl Isovalerate • Cinnamyl Propionate • Citral • Citric Acid • Citronella Oil • dl-Citronellol • Citronellyl Butyrate • itronellyl Isobutyrate • Civet Absolute • Clary Oil • Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract • Cocoa • Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder • Coconut Oil • Coffee • Cognac White and Green Oil • Copaiba Oil • Coriander Extract and Oil • Corn Oil • Corn Silk • Costus Root Oil • Cubeb Oil • Cuminaldehyde • para-Cymene • 1-Cysteine Dandelion Root Solid Extract • Davana Oil • 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal • delta-Decalactone • gamma-Decalactone • Decanal • Decanoic Acid • 1-Decanol • 2-Decenal • Dehydromenthofurolactone • Diethyl Malonate • Diethyl Sebacate • 2,3-Diethylpyrazine • Dihydro Anethole • 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine • Dill Seed Oil and Extract • meta-Dimethoxybenzene • para-Dimethoxybenzene • 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol • Dimethyl Succinate • 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione • 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione • 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene • 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5- Dihydrofuran-2-One • 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien- 2-One • 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid • 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone • alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol • alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate • alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate • 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine • 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine • 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine • Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone • delta-Dodecalactone • gamma-Dodecalactone • para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde • Ethyl 10-Undecenoate • Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate • Ethyl Acetate • Ethyl Acetoacetate • Ethyl Alcohol • Ethyl Benzoate • Ethyl Butyrate • Ethyl Cinnamate • Ethyl Decanoate • Ethyl Fenchol • Ethyl Furoate • Ethyl Heptanoate • Ethyl Hexanoate • Ethyl Isovalerate • Ethyl Lactate • Ethyl Laurate • Ethyl Levulinate • Ethyl Maltol • Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate • Ethyl Myristate • Ethyl Nonanoate • Ethyl Octadecanoate • Ethyl Octanoate • Ethyl Oleate • Ethyl Palmitate • Ethyl Phenylacetate • Ethyl Propionate • Ethyl Salicylate • Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate • Ethyl Valerate • Ethyl Vanillin • 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine • 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 - Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One • 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine • 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2 (5H)-Furanone • 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine • 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde • 4-Ethylguaiacol • para-Ethylphenol • 3-Ethylpyridine • Eucalyptol • Farnesol • D-Fenchone • Fennel Sweet Oil • Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute • Fig Juice Concentrate • Food Starch Modified • Furfuryl Mercaptan • 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One • Galbanum Oil • Genet Absolute • Gentian Root Extract • Geraniol • Geranium Rose Oil • Geranyl Acetate • Geranyl Butyrate • Geranyl Formate • Geranyl Isovalerate • Geranyl Phenylacetate • Ginger Oil and Oleoresin • 1-Glutamic Acid • 1-Glutamine • Glycerol • Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated • Grape Juice Concentrate • Guaiac Wood Oil • Guaiacol • Guar Gum • 2,4-Heptadienal • gamma-Heptalactone • Heptanoic Acid • 2-Heptanone • 3-Hepten-2-One • 2-Hepten-4-One • 4-Heptenal • trans -2-Heptenal • Heptyl Acetate • omega-6-Hexadecenlactone • gamma-Hexalactone • Hexanal • Hexanoic Acid • 2-Hexen-1-Ol • 3-Hexen-1-Ol • cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate • 2-Hexenal • 3-Hexenoic Acid • trans-2-Hexenoic Acid • cis-3-Hexenyl Formate • Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate • Hexyl Acetate • Hexyl Alcohol • Hexyl Phenylacetate • 1-Histidine • Honey • Hops Oil • Hydrolyzed Milk Solids • Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins • 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta-Lactone • 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone • 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One • 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone • 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde • 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone • Hydroxycitronellal • 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane • 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone • Hyssop Oil • Immortelle Absolute and Extract • alpha-Ionone • beta-Ionone • alpha-Irone • Isoamyl Acetate • Isoamyl Benzoate • Isoamyl Butyrate • Isoamyl Cinnamate • Isoamyl Formate, IsoamylHexanoate • Isoamyl Isovalerate • Isoamyl Octanoate • Isoamyl Phenylacetate • Isobornyl Acetate • Isobutyl Acetate • Isobutyl Alcohol • Isobutyl Cinnamate • Isobutyl Phenylacetate • Isobutyl Salicylate • 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine • alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol • Isobutyraldehyde • Isobutyric Acid • d,l-Isoleucine • alpha-Isomethylionone • 2-Isopropylphenol • Isovaleric Acid • Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil • Kola Nut Extract • Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin • Lactic Acid • Lauric Acid • Lauric Aldehyde • Lavandin Oil • Lavender Oil • Lemon Oil and Extract • Lemongrass Oil • 1-Leucine • Levulinic Acid • Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder • Lime Oil • Linalool • Linalool Oxide • Linalyl Acetate • Linden Flowers • Lovage Oil And Extract • 1-Lysine] • Mace Powder, Extract and Oil • Magnesium Carbonate • Malic Acid • Malt and Malt Extract • Maltodextrin • Maltol • Maltyl Isobutyrate • Mandarin Oil • Maple Syrup and Concentrate • Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil • para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One • Menthol • Menthone • Menthyl Acetate • dl-Methionine • Methoprene • 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol • 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol • para-Methoxybenzaldehyde • 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One • 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone • 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone • Methoxypyrazine • Methyl 2-Furoate • Methyl 2-Octynoate • Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone • Methyl Anisate • Methyl Anthranilate • Methyl Benzoate • Methyl Cinnamate • Methyl Dihydrojasmonate • Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated • Methyl Isovalerate • Methyl Linoleate (48%) • Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture • Methyl Naphthyl Ketone • Methyl Nicotinate • Methyl Phenylacetate • Methyl Salicylate • Methyl Sulfide • 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone • 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone • 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal • 5-Methyl-2-Thiophene-carboxaldehyde • 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One • 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde • 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One • 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene • 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One • 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde • 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One • 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol • 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole • Methyl-alpha-Ionone • Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid • 4-Methylacetophenone • para-Methylanisole • alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate • alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol • 2-Methylbutyraldehyde • 3-Methylbutyraldehyde • 2-Methylbutyric Acid • alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde • Methylcyclopentenolone • 2-Methylheptanoic Acid • 2-Methylhexanoic Acid • 3-Methylpentanoic Acid • 4-Methylpentanoic Acid • 2-Methylpyrazine • 5-Methylquinoxaline • 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One • (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers) • 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde • Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate • 2-Methylvaleric Acid • Mimosa Absolute and Extract • Molasses Extract and Tincture • Mountain Maple Solid Extract • Mullein Flowers • Myristaldehyde • Myristic Acid • Myrrh Oil • beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether • Nerol • Neroli Bigarde Oil • Nerolidol • Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal • 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol • gamma-Nonalactone • Nonanal • Nonanoic Acid • Nonanone • trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol • 2-Nonenal • Nonyl Acetate • Nutmeg Powder and Oil • Oak Chips Extract and Oil • Oak Moss Absolute • 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%) • delta-Octalactone • gamma-Octalactone • Octanal • Octanoic Acid • 1-Octanol • 2-Octanone • 3-Octen-2-One • 1-Octen-3-Ol • 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate • 2-Octenal • Octyl Isobutyrate • Oleic Acid • Olibanum Oil • Opoponax Oil And Gum • Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute • Orange Oil and Extract • Origanum Oil • Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract • Palmarosa Oil • Palmitic Acid • Parsley Seed Oil • Patchouli Oil • omega-Pentadecalactone • 2,3-Pentanedione • 2-Pentanone • 4-Pentenoic Acid • 2-Pentylpyridine • Pepper Oil, Black And White • Peppermint Oil • Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil • Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil • alpha-Phellandrene • 2-Phenenthyl Acetate • Phenenthyl Alcohol • Phenethyl Butyrate • Phenethyl Cinnamate • Phenethyl Isobutyrate • Phenethyl Isovalerate • Phenethyl Phenylacetate • Phenethyl Salicylate • 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol • 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol • 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal • 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol • 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One • Phenylacetaldehyde • Phenylacetic Acid • 1-Phenylalanine • 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde • 3-Phenylpropionic Acid • 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate • 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate • 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran • Phosphoric Acid • Pimenta Leaf Oil • Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch • Pineapple Juice Concentrate • alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene • D-Piperitone • Piperonal • Pipsissewa Leaf Extract • Plum Juice • Potassium Sorbate • 1-Proline • Propenylguaethol • Propionic Acid • Propyl Acetate • Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate • Propylene Glycol • 3-Propylidenephthalide • Prune Juice and Concentrate • Pyridine • Pyroligneous Acid And Extract • Pyrrole • Pyruvic Acid • Raisin Juice Concentrate • Rhodinol • Rose Absolute and Oil • Rosemary Oil • Rum • Rum Ether • Rye Extract • Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin • Salicylaldehyde • Sandalwood Oil, Yellow • Sclareolide • Skatole • Smoke Flavor • Snakeroot Oil • Sodium Acetate • Sodium Benzoate • Sodium Bicarbonate • Sodium Carbonate • Sodium Chloride • Sodium Citrate • Sodium Hydroxide • Solanone • Spearmint Oil • Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil • Sucrose Octaacetate • Sugar Alcohols • Sugars • Tagetes Oil • Tannic Acid • Tartaric Acid • Tea Leaf and Absolute • alpha-Terpineol • Terpinolene • Terpinyl Acetate • 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline • 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane • 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6- Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone • 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine • Thiamine Hydrochloride • Thiazole • 1-Threonine • Thyme Oil, White and Red • Thymol • Tobacco Extracts • Tochopherols (mixed) • Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract • Tolualdehydes • para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate • para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde • para-Tolyl Acetate • para-Tolyl Isobutyrate • para-Tolyl Phenylacetate • Triacetin • 2-Tridecanone • 2-Tridecenal • Triethyl Citrate • 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol • para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol • 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1- Enyl)But-2-En-4-One • 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2- Ene-1,4-Dione • 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1, 3-Dienyl Methan • 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1, 3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One • 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone • 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine • 1-Tyrosine • delta-Undercalactone • gamma-Undecalactone • Undecanal • 2-Undecanone, 1 • 0-Undecenal • Urea • Valencene • Valeraldehyde • Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder • Valeric Acid • gamma-Valerolactone • Valine • Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin • Vanillin • Veratraldehyde • Vetiver Oil • Vinegar • Violet Leaf Absolute • Walnut Hull Extract • Water • Wheat Extract And Flour • Wild Cherry Bark Extract • Wine and Wine Sherry • Xanthan Gum • 3,4-Xylenol • Yeast Phew !!! "Lol...Someone clearly knows their onions
I like the idea of the pineapple juice concentrate being in there
I had to give up e-the cigs though, as 20 a day was prohibitively expensive | |||
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