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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

After the shocking relevations by Ann Clwyd can we be sure that the NHS in Wales is safe under Labour's hands. It appears that many Cancer patients have to cross the border to England to get the required treatment. And the Welsh Assembly want more devolved powers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"After the shocking relevations by Ann Clwyd can we be sure that the NHS in Wales is safe under Labour's hands. It appears that many Cancer patients have to cross the border to England to get the required treatment. And the Welsh Assembly want more devolved powers."

Oh dear I am going to be accused of picking on you !!!

Having lost 2 parents to cancer, we have found that the Welsh care system for cancer suffers is 100% better than the English care! My mother passed away in a Conservative stronghold whereas my father in law passed away in a Labour stronghold, (you mentioned politics) but again I guess it is only limited experience and opinions

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I would suggest that yours is an isolated case whereas I'm referring to statistics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Welsh NHS has been discussed in Westminster and on the face of it it is in decline. However I have had to spend more time visiting in hospitals than I would like over the last few years and the staff are amazing. They aare really up against it and do a fantastic job. Shame the Welsh labour government can't put more funding in instead of buying airports!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The Welsh NHS has been discussed in Westminster and on the face of it it is in decline. However I have had to spend more time visiting in hospitals than I would like over the last few years and the staff are amazing. They aare really up against it and do a fantastic job. Shame the Welsh labour government can't put more funding in instead of buying airports!! "

My point exactly.

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By *rsK69Woman  over a year ago

Neath

My youngest son has absolutely fantastic care from the NHS in Wales especially the staff at UHW Cardiff. The NHS also fund his medication (and for all others with the same condition) which currently costs around 2k plus a week (and will increase as his dose increases as he gets older) which he will need for the rest of his life unless a cure is found. So in our case they truely are a lifesaver and i cant sing their praises highly enough

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Welsh NHS has been discussed in Westminster and on the face of it it is in decline. However I have had to spend more time visiting in hospitals than I would like over the last few years and the staff are amazing. They aare really up against it and do a fantastic job. Shame the Welsh labour government can't put more funding in instead of buying airports!!

My point exactly."

A slight change of debate but hell all debating is good. I didn't state that the Welsh NHS was in decline, however if the Assembly is to have more power and a greater distance from Westminster then we need an independent income. I have not been in the country a lot this year and have done virtually no research on NHS facts and figures and therefore will not jump the gun, statistics aside however we have only ever received the best care with no delays or complaints about the Welsh NHS and unfortunately can not say the same of the Service on the other side of the bridge. It is unfortunate that nearly ALL NHS wherever they are seem to face this decline in service, funding and ratings when we, as taxpayers, are reliant on the services offered. I can see the whole service being privatised and we, like our cousins across the pond, will soon be paying for healthcare.

We would however, like to thank and offer our gratitude to ALL the NHS professionals and we think that considering the current economic and political climate they all do a wonderful job and deserve our respect.

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By *ewcouple20Couple  over a year ago

Cwmbran

Another love for the UHW Cardiff - I was diagnosed with rapidly advancing relapsing remitting ms in 2008 and in the space of 18 months had around6 relapses.

Cue a neuro offering me a trial drug in 2009 which was hardly available anywhere else in the uk (and still isn't really) and ms hasn't crossed my mind since.

Sure the newspaper reports are worrying and will never be a perfect system but just had to show some love

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By *Psaucy67Man  over a year ago

Swansea

Funding is a problem! Free prescriptions should be scrapped for the majority of people and the cash put back into the NHS but at the same time a fair price should be charged dependant on income... It's over £8 in England!!

Also

People who need interpreters in hospitals should pick up the bill they need to insure themselves while in our country. It's one of the biggest cost to the NHS

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By *ewcouple20Couple  over a year ago

Cwmbran

Totally agree re free prescriptions should be scrapped.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think we should keep with free prescriptions but things like parcetamol and cheap medications like ibuprofen should be bought over the counter cheaper than the prescription price per item is issued for . Those medications make nonsense to me as you don't need a prescription for them and you can buy really cheaply now .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree wither interpreter thing lif you need one why should the tax payers be paying ,you should have to pay insurance or bring a relative that can speak English along with you .in other countries you don't get that service at all.

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By *3xymamaWoman  over a year ago

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Interpreters cost a lot and a lot of the time the patient doesn't turn up for the appointment. The interpreter still has to be paid. Hospital policy won't allow family members to interpret due to a possible conflict in interest

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Llandough oncology unit was second to none when my son was there. Staff and treatment were exemplary. The Heath however at that time,left a lot to be desired. Staff were fine but children's wards weren't fit to keep animals in.Totally different now though I haste to add.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was recently in hospital for 5 weeks & whilst I'm grateful for the emergency care & the life saving surgery I received the nursing care that I witnessed on the wards was appalling & will stay with me for life. I spent much of my time with my blanket over my head so I wouldn't have to see our great anything. Needless to say in the 4th week when someone thought to ask what I did for a living I was moved to a much nicer ward with a very different ethos on care. That said however I did still meet with people to share my experience, but I very much doubt in this current climate that anything will change. Too many patients & too few nurses x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Interpreters cost a lot and a lot of the time the patient doesn't turn up for the appointment. The interpreter still has to be paid. Hospital policy won't allow family members to interpret due to a possible conflict in interest"
I know that but in other countries they do allow it perhaps we should follow suit it is better than nothing after all! Vets manage pretty well in diagnosing what's wrong with an animal and they don't get to ask the animal anything ! Before there's a back lash I am not implying people from different countries or ethnic minorities are like animals or deserve the same care as animals I am just making a point that vets can't ask animals any thing yet manage to diagnose lots of problems despite this . Costs a lot more I know ! More than a person would have to pay ! If memory serves me right you need better grades to be a vet then you do to be a doctor ! Probably why I suppose . Xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was recently in hospital for 5 weeks & whilst I'm grateful for the emergency care & the life saving surgery I received the nursing care that I witnessed on the wards was appalling & will stay with me for life. I spent much of my time with my blanket over my head so I wouldn't have to see our great anything. Needless to say in the 4th week when someone thought to ask what I did for a living I was moved to a much nicer ward with a very different ethos on care. That said however I

did still meet with people to share my experience, but I very much doubt in this current climate that anything will change. Too many patients & too few nurses x"

I don't think the number of nurses effects totally the quality of care given , it does to some degree but I think the basic training given to new nurses coming through or from over seas where family members do a lot of personal care not the nurses leaves a lot to be desired . Unfortunately it was this way ten years ago and despite the NHs saying they are refocusing on this and retraining nurses on basic care needs it hasn't really changed . The care my father received when he was in hospital was appalling we made complaints all the way up to the trust , an animal would have been treated better l we preferred to care for him at home despite his complex needs and pick our own nursing staff to help with this through direct payments . In my book basic human care is something that shouldn't necessary need to be taught though I understand they have to ensure they do this as some people will say they didn't know ! I think it comes from within l a matter of caring and treating people with resect as you would like to be treated and ensuring they are clean, have food , can eat the food or drink the drink . Can take their tablets not just left on the side for them not to be taken . However it seems a lot of staff just see these things ad tasks to do and don't fully see the importance of them being done satisfactory and full effect .

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By *3xymamaWoman  over a year ago

Uptown Top Ranking

A lot of today's trainee nurses seem to have the intelligence but not all have common sense. They are taught more in uni than being ward based. Some nurses have that certain something and others just want to work their way up the ladder to management.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of today's trainee nurses seem to have the intelligence but not all have common sense. They are taught more in uni than being ward based. Some nurses have that certain something and others just want to work their way up the ladder to management. "
I agree it's not seen as a vocation any more but a career . We all have to be paid to live I know we do . But taking pride in ones work costs nothing and is everything to the patient and their relatives ! None of them want them to be in hospital after all. They don't want to be ill at all. The thing is a lot of these basic standards you don't even have to be a qualified nurse to do these things an in qualified staff with basic training could do . Nursing assistants are undervalued in my opinion . The thing is qualified nurses probably see these tasks as beneath them or close their eyes to them blinkered by more important tasks they see fit they have to do. Like the amount of oaper work that the NHs trusts among them and increases every year with new assessment to fill in that bring nothing new to the tabke that the old one done just conforms with ticking boxes more easily on an audit form And gives the higher paid management an excuse to have a job and work .

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By *3xymamaWoman  over a year ago

Uptown Top Ranking

A lot of nurses tasks are just a paper exercise. If they were able to "care" instead of filling in endless amounts of paperwork there wouldn't be so many complaints about poor nursing care. The unqualified staff do a great job within the constraints of their role. Years ago the SEN's and auxiliaries did the majority of patient care and left the SRN's to medicines and management. I'd like to see a return to that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of nurses tasks are just a paper exercise. If they were able to "care" instead of filling in endless amounts of paperwork there wouldn't be so many complaints about poor nursing care. The unqualified staff do a great job within the constraints of their role. Years ago the SEN's and auxiliaries did the majority of patient care and left the SRN's to medicines and management. I'd like to see a return to that"
me toooooo . I think it makes more sense .however sense in the NHs doesn't exist lol . Matron would never like these new shoddy wards ! At all.

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By *3xymamaWoman  over a year ago

Uptown Top Ranking

The matrons and nursing officers would be tearing their hair out with this "new" style of management and nursing care

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I (Buck) have been in hospital more times than i would of liked over the years 13 times and rising. each year the standard of care has got worse. the last major op i had a bone graft off my hip to put in my knee... the nurses treated my knee but left the 8inch cut on my hip untreated for 2 weeks ...resulting in me getting septicaemia and close to popping my cloggs all due to miss managment communication.

and some hospitals nurses work really hard and some dont . one hospital i was at the nurses d*unk coffee and buiscuits all night ignoring my pressing the button for help...bring back ward matrons they kept a tight ship .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I (Buck) have been in hospital more times than i would of liked over the years 13 times and rising. each year the standard of care has got worse. the last major op i had a bone graft off my hip to put in my knee... the nurses treated my knee but left the 8inch cut on my hip untreated for 2 weeks ...resulting in me getting septicaemia and close to popping my cloggs all due to miss managment communication.

and some hospitals nurses work really hard and

some dont . one hospital i was at the nurses

d*unk coffee and buiscuits all night ignoring my pressing the button for help...bring back ward matrons they kept a tight ship . "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is totally lacking in any political analysis but just from my own personal experience. Both Velindre and Llandough hospitals have been exemplary in treating my breast cancer, from a medical and a human level. I have received up-to-the-minute surgery and treatment and oodles of support, information and care. I couldn't have asked for more and am extremely grateful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is totally lacking in any political analysis but just from my own personal experience. Both Velindre and Llandough hospitals have been exemplary in treating my breast cancer, from a medical and a human level. I have received up-to-the-minute surgery and treatment and oodles of support, information and care. I couldn't have asked for more and am extremely grateful."
glad to hear it mand . Not all hospitals the same though . Would hate it if you were badly treated Hun.xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

With the NHS struggling with funding its really about time that those that enter the UK for free medical care because they have to pay in their own country are stopped from entering. Also how about those that end up in A&E with injuries relating to alcohol abuse etc should be charged for care. I suppose in all cases there are two sides to every argument. A mate of mines wife is an NHS manager on crazy pay and has admitted that a recent study internally has highlighted 3 hospitals in the RCT area each have a manager however 1 could cover all 3. So again wasted money.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There seems to be a lot here knocking some nurses but trust me the majority want to care for patients we have a lot of nurses from other countries due to the lack of qualified nurses the numbers of nurses coming through are rising and a bill has been passed in Cardiff by the health minister for Wales for each ward to have a minimum number of staff on at any time. This is for patients to be given better care, at the moment nurses get tied up in paperwork due to the fact there has to be a paper trail for everything and people can be held to account. The best way for the Nhs to claw back money is for those that are involved in alcohol related incidents or illness more than once to be charged, those advised to stop smoking and then turn up with chest problems to be charged, and those that have been advised to lose weight that don't take notice to be charged at the end of the day alcohol, smoking and, overweight will cause the body to have problems and if you don't take the warnings off professional people get charged for using their service. I also believe cosmetic surgery should all be charged not a percentage Nhs funded. It's time Nhs structures changed and more nurses came in with less managers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There seems to be a lot here knocking some nurses but trust me the majority want to care for patients we have a lot of nurses from other countries due to the lack of qualified nurses the numbers of nurses coming through are rising and a bill has been passed in Cardiff by the health minister for Wales for each ward to have a minimum number of staff on at any time. This is for patients to be given better care, at the moment nurses get tied up in paperwork due to the fact

there has to be a paper trail for everything and people can be held to account. The best way for the Nhs to claw back money is for those that are involved in alcohol related incidents or illness more than once to be charged, those advised to stop smoking and then turn up with chest

problems to be charged, and those that have been advised to lose weight that don't take notice to be charged at the end of the day alcohol, smoking and, overweight will cause the body to have problems and if you don't take the warnings off professional people get charged for using their

service. I also believe cosmetic surgery should all be charged not a percentage Nhs funded. It's time Nhs structures changed and more nurses came in with less managers"

the minimum number of staff at any time on a ward has existed for years . It's not new ! It's just not enough most the time and like I said previously the basic care doesn't have to be done by qualified staff , a lot can be done by nursing assistants with basic training .x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Can the bunch of clowns in Cardiff be trusted to run our health service?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes the minimum isn't going to be set by the hospital or trust as there have been investigations ongoing and the whole of the Nhs was found to be understaffed on wards all over the uk. As a result the independent body involved in this investigation will be involved in the staffing levels which in turn will create more Nhs jobs and hopefully cut down on the agency staff being brought in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As I work in the NHS I feel I can speak out, yes you do get some nurses that just want a career and some nurses that can't be bothered. In my experience night shift nurses are the worst. Esp those in the nasty "work life balance"

But on the other hand I have worked with some nurses that go beyond their job to ensure patient care, even working over their shift "12.5 hrs" unpaid to see that person's care continued.

Now before you all slate me I'm not a manager nut as we are called now HCSW and in the stores so I see it from the bottom up.

Did you know about the NHA Party fighting for a better NHS. Message me for details x

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By *iJane4funCouple  over a year ago

South, Wales


"After the shocking relevations by Ann Clwyd can we be sure that the NHS in Wales is safe under Labour's hands. It appears that many Cancer patients have to cross the border to England to get the required treatment. And the Welsh Assembly want more devolved powers."

You have had a pop at the Welsh assembly on two posts now . Maybe you would like to suggest which party we should all vote for in the oncoming elections? I have no particular preferences as I think that they are all as bad as each other!

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