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By *9alMan
over a year ago
Bridgend |
I have just sent off my postal vote for Labour, its easy for the other parties not in power to promise loads but they do not have to deliver when Westminster keeps cutting the budget . |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
Bridgend |
"Fab has tainted me. I read it as welsh erections
LOL
Can't beat a good local erection
Especially when the Swing-ometer is brought out "
none of the parties are promising more erections, perhaps it would get more votes than talking about public transport . |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"after everything that is coming out about boris and the conservative's are you really that blind that you cant see how damaging they are to this country "
The issue has always been with Welsh labour that they have continusely failed Wales outside South Wales and the valleys, really don't see what they've done for the valleys either since they have been in power. |
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"I would rather be sick through the car window and have it blow back at me than vote Labour (some people need to open their eyes)"
Have sent ours off
After watching all the party leaders being questioned on bbc( biast broadcasting company)
Thought rt davies come off the best as shot down the interviewer a few times knowing the answers to her questions. So we voted for him |
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One thing i have noticed more of is the new big projects all regognise the money as coming from the eu fund for this or that . Not welsh assembly and then to find out this week that welsh labour are sitting on a pot of 1.2 billion pound when nhs, education and social care all need extra funding ?
Someone needs to check certain peoples motives for holding/hiding that cash |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We do not vote - blasted politicians - most are corrupt and just plain liars that promise everything and anything to get what they want.
Just how many Atheists are top politicians ??
Like Sa Harries says - no matter how good a person you are or how intelligent you just have to pretend to be of 'faith' or you will get nowhere in politics
EXAMPLE - Arnold Schwarzenegger - he had to bullshit his way in, whereas ANYONE that knows Arnold will tell you he is ANTI RELIGION in reality - big time |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would rather be sick through the car window and have it blow back at me than vote Labour (some people need to open their eyes)"
Enlighten us please. An unbelievable thing to say given the levels of outright corruption this shower of shit have engaged in. |
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"after everything that is coming out about boris and the conservative's are you really that blind that you cant see how damaging they are to this country
The issue has always been with Welsh labour that they have continusely failed Wales outside South Wales and the valleys, really don't see what they've done for the valleys either since they have been in power."
agreed they havent been the greatest, but they have been so much better at handling covid compared to the conservatives and i couldnt vote for a party that has done all the things that are coming out in the news about BoJo, Labour all the way for me |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"I would rather be sick through the car window and have it blow back at me than vote Labour (some people need to open their eyes)
Enlighten us please. An unbelievable thing to say given the levels of outright corruption this shower of shit have engaged in."
It seems that debating skills are lacking in these forums, why the need to abusive about an individual or party. The op has asked a clear question |
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It’s going to be a long old day, I’m staff in a polling station and we have to be there from 6:30 (to set up ready for 7am opening) until at least 10pm and then I have to take everything to the count so can you all keep me amused Thursday |
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I'll vote Labour, they've done well in the past year or so. They've handled the pandemic well enough for me to give them the nod. They cared about people before the economy, the way it should have been all over the union. I can see it being between plaid and Labour.
You know what they say. Anyone but the Tories. They are not normal people. Elite level scumbags. |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"I'll vote Labour, they've done well in the past year or so. They've handled the pandemic well enough for me to give them the nod. They cared about people before the economy, the way it should have been all over the union. I can see it being between plaid and Labour.
You know what they say. Anyone but the Tories. They are not normal people. Elite level scumbags. "
You have given your opinion which is fine, stating the obvious a little but again why feel the need to be abusive at the end of it? |
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Could always vote for Neil Hamilton & UKIP....
[Thats the same Neil Hamilton by the way, that was a Tory MP from 83-97, before losing his seat after being caught up with a scandal over..... ummm..... sleaze. Hmmm history repeating itself?
Oh and later as a supporter of certain presure groups invited Jean-Marie Le Pen & Allesandra Mussolini to speak at a Conservative party fringe meeting in 1992. Let you make your own minds up about where his politics lie.
Whats that got to do with Welsh politics you cry.....well someone must have voted for him last time round given he's a sitting MS].
Things like this mean I will make my vote count this week and I hope most others will too -regardless of politics (here's hoping not too many on here subscribe to Mr. Hamilton's politics). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I cant see how anyone with a social conscience can vote conservative personally. I would rather Labour stay in power as I think they have done a pretty good job handling the pandemic.
Saying that though my postal vote went off a week or so ago for Plaid Cymru. |
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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago
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Labour has been in power for 20 years, and have consistently underperformed each and every year.
From Ron Davies ( I was looking for badgers ) to Mark drakeford, they only invested money into projects in and around the south east Wales area.
Our education system is one of the worst in the world, the nhs funding WAS cut back, when the other nations expanded it.
Money has been spent at a ridiculous rate on expensive consultants, and then they ignored the advice they gave
Examples are, M4 relief road, circuit of Wales, LG in Newport.
Labour stopped working on the M4 relief road partly because of a convienent “ climate emergency “ and the cost £1.4 billion. Yet they have signed contracts to build / replace the A465 from Hirwaun to Dowlias top under a type of PFI for 25 years that will cost us the taxpayers £1.4 billion at today’s rate.
Everyone talks that the conservatives are elite, it’s labour that’s elite
We need a change in leadership, if only for one term to see if someone else can do it better. |
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"Things like this mean I will make my vote count this week and I hope most others will too -regardless of politics (here's hoping not too many on here subscribe to Mr. Hamilton's politics)."
Hamilton is as dodgy AF, as you so eloquently point out. I think he'll lose his seat. He was elected on the UKIP wave (God's teeth - awful that there was such a thing) and has no personal fanbase. Most of the UKIP votes will go to Reform (Farage's latest con) and Abolish. I find Abolish interesting. It's like UKIP. They claim to want to get rid of something, but they actually don't want to, because it pays their wages and gives them something to moan about. The moment we left the EU, the same lot just moved on to moaning about something else. They'll never be satisfied. |
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You have given your opinion which is fine, stating the obvious a little but again why feel the need to be abusive at the end of it? "
Because they're Tories. It's not abuse. Just a statement of fact. |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
I think Plaid Cymru will take a lot of votes from labour especially in the valleys but will struggle to win seats, 20 years of labour have given the valleys next to nothing as far as jobs and opportunities, Cardiff has benefited mostly while people have bought house's in the valleys and commuted to work therefore pushing house prices out of reach for valley people. |
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Think its time labour were ousted from power and time for a new direction.
Best of both worlds plaid/conservative coalition. Good comunication with uk gov and plaid looking out for wales. More jobs better nhs and care sector plus improved road links as it couldn t be worse than another 5 years of labour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Think its time labour were ousted from power and time for a new direction.
Best of both worlds plaid/conservative coalition. Good comunication with uk gov and plaid looking out for wales. More jobs better nhs and care sector plus improved road links as it couldn t be worse than another 5 years of labour "
I cant see this happening and shouldnt the uk government have good communications with who ever is in power in Wales Scotland or Ireland ? This hasnt been the case though has it as Drakeford and Sturgeon have both stated. |
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Yes both stated this but both have their own polital agenda. Same party both sides may see a big difference . Would be nice though to see what anyone else could do other than labour and ukip. Even the "no assembly party" though highly unlike likely |
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Love how the Welsh Government are getting smashed for macro economic performance when they are powerless to borrow to invest or provide tax breaks to attract inward investment.
On health, we're the poorest nation in Western Europe. There's a direct correlation between wealth and health. Same with education. We're starting from such a low base but are tied to UK wide initiatives.
It doesn't matter who is in power in the Senedd. Labour, Conservatives, Mr Feckin Bean; until Wales has full autonomy the Welsh Government cannot be held fully to account. |
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"Yes both stated this but both have their own polital agenda. Same party both sides may see a big difference . Would be nice though to see what anyone else could do other than labour and ukip. Even the "no assembly party" though highly unlike likely "
Political parties have political agenda shocker. |
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"Best of both worlds plaid/conservative coalition. "
Labour will still be the largest party, and hell would freeze over before Plaid entered into a formal coalition with the Conservatives. The Conservatives don't give a tinker's cuss about Wales. |
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"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
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Mrsbrooksandjohn were trotting out this same cheese dream in the previous thread. Tories don't really do coalitions. They just have another party propping them up so they can do what the hell they like. |
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Just putting the idea out there that it is time for someone new to have a go other than labour. As for being the poorest nation ask labour about the 1.2 billion pound they have squirreled away and the 8 million they were given to help people at risk of being evicted from their homes . So far 29 cases have been successful in getting any money . Then today labour announce if they get back in they would consider a grant scheme. Using the money they have already been given and held onto !
As someone said you can t trust any politition but time we tried to see if the others are better than this lot |
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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago
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"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
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I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ?????? |
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"... to help people at risk of being evicted from their homes . So far 29 cases have been successful in getting any money
As someone said you can t trust any politition but time we tried to see if the others are better than this lot "
You really think the Conservatives give a toss about people being evicted? Saying let the other lot have a go in this instance is like saying you feel safer sticking your head in a lion's mouth than a tiger's. |
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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago
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"... to help people at risk of being evicted from their homes . So far 29 cases have been successful in getting any money
As someone said you can t trust any politition but time we tried to see if the others are better than this lot
You really think the Conservatives give a toss about people being evicted? Saying let the other lot have a go in this instance is like saying you feel safer sticking your head in a lion's mouth than a tiger's. "
Stop spouting absolute bollocks, you really are a nasty person |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ??????"
Exactly
It will never happen |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ??????
Exactly
It will never happen "
Never say never Ms P I have seen you wear a Scarlett's shirt on here in the past! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ??????
Exactly
It will never happen
Never say never Ms P I have seen you wear a Scarlett's shirt on here in the past! "
Classified information that was.... |
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"... to help people at risk of being evicted from their homes . So far 29 cases have been successful in getting any money
As someone said you can t trust any politition but time we tried to see if the others are better than this lot
You really think the Conservatives give a toss about people being evicted? Saying let the other lot have a go in this instance is like saying you feel safer sticking your head in a lion's mouth than a tiger's. "
Well it was the uk conservative government that gave the 8 million to labour to help stop people being evicted so who isn t helping. plus all the other funds to cover furlough and other grants (we have friends who own pubs and bars and most are still waiting for their grants to come through from last year) And before the abuse. If it was a labour government that gave the money to a conservative or plaid welsh government and they didn t use it i'd be pointing that out too |
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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago
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"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ??????
Exactly
It will never happen
Never say never Ms P I have seen you wear a Scarlett's shirt on here in the past!
Classified information that was.... "
Omg, you hypocrite |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"If we end up with a Plaid/Tory coalition I will cut off my left tit and buy myself a Scarlets season ticket
I always knew you liked a bit of pain, but the scarlets season ticket is going too far ??????
Exactly
It will never happen
Never say never Ms P I have seen you wear a Scarlett's shirt on here in the past!
Classified information that was....
Omg, you hypocrite "
Fair play she does honour her word! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Stop spouting absolute bollocks, you really are a nasty person
I'm a nasty person because I don't like the Conservative Party? *strokes chin*
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Fellow nasty person here then if that's the qualifying criteria |
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"Stop spouting absolute bollocks, you really are a nasty person
I'm a nasty person because I don't like the Conservative Party? *strokes chin*
Fellow nasty person here then if that's the qualifying criteria "
Oh If not liking the Tories makes you nasty I must be a right cunt then |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Stop spouting absolute bollocks, you really are a nasty person
I'm a nasty person because I don't like the Conservative Party? *strokes chin*
Fellow nasty person here then if that's the qualifying criteria
Oh If not liking the Tories makes you nasty I must be a right cunt then "
I bet you kick dogs and steal kids sweets for fun. |
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"Stop spouting absolute bollocks, you really are a nasty person
I'm a nasty person because I don't like the Conservative Party? *strokes chin*
Fellow nasty person here then if that's the qualifying criteria
Oh If not liking the Tories makes you nasty I must be a right cunt then
I bet you kick dogs and steal kids sweets for fun. "
Nah, I kick the kids and feed them to the dog. |
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By *CR1992Man
over a year ago
Swansea |
Think Drakeford has done a good job despite everything, handled the pandemic the best out of the home nations without a doubt.
Feel disenfranchised with Labour now though in general and where they're going. I feel that independence is the most important issue for now, so will be going for Plaid.
PS. Hunt Tories not foxes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Prehaps they should use a new slogan.
The conservative party . The party that cares .......................... but only if your loaded or one of our mates |
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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago
Cardiff |
I don't mind who people vote for as long as they have good reasons.
Not like I've always voted labour or my parents voted Tory so I do.
You should be able to name at least one policy that you want |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Missp69
We may yet see you in a Scarlet's shirt. Tbh its got to be an improvement on the ospreys one .
At least their shirt represents the region. And not just 2 outdated clubs lol
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P. S Llanelli is a town, not a region |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Conservatives gain Conwy from Labour
(No booing please!!) "
Vale of Clwyd even
Not a clue where I got Conwy from
Too much ranting about Aberconwy going on on Twitter at the same time and I got confused (doesn't take a lot)
Soz |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Conservatives hold Monmouth
And Clwyd West
Plaid hold Ceredigion
And Ynys mon
Labour hold Llanelli, Newport East, Newport West, Bridgend, Ogmore, Swansea West and Blaenau Gwent
Labour TAKE Rhondda from Plaid
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Last week it was wallpaper for the tories, this week it's curtains for labour "
Sorry to disappoint you but Labour now have enough seats for a working majority |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People have constantly slagged off Drakeford for years. I am not a political person but thought it was time for a change or if not get rid of him and see some new young blood in seat"
He gained an extra 10,000 odd votes
The man is hugely popular with his constituents, like it or not
He isn't going anywhere |
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"People have constantly slagged off Drakeford for years. I am not a political person but thought it was time for a change or if not get rid of him and see some new young blood in seat"
Why? His leadership through this last year has been pretty good. He's currently an asset to Welsh Labour. |
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"He gained an extra 10,000 odd votes
The man is hugely popular with his constituents, like it or not
He isn't going anywhere "
Yep. Why have people slagged him off? Is it because he lacks charisma? Johnson is alleged to have Charisma (when he's not knobbing any number of other posh sorts), and look at the state of the death toll in England. The qualities that counted against Drakeford before - cautious, plodding, unspectacular - now count for him. He's a decent human being, and politics needs more of those. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He gained an extra 10,000 odd votes
The man is hugely popular with his constituents, like it or not
He isn't going anywhere
Yep. Why have people slagged him off? Is it because he lacks charisma? Johnson is alleged to have Charisma (when he's not knobbing any number of other posh sorts), and look at the state of the death toll in England. The qualities that counted against Drakeford before - cautious, plodding, unspectacular - now count for him. He's a decent human being, and politics needs more of those. "
I'll be honest he's got on my tits at times
But on the whole he has done a decent job in a crazily difficult situation and has tried to do what he thinks is best for the population of Wales, and has openly and honestly learned from any mistakes along the way
Plus my eldest son does a great take off of him, it's class |
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"I'll be honest he's got on my tits at times"
I'm jealous. Oh, not like THAT.
"But on the whole he has done a decent job in a crazily difficult situation and has tried to do what he thinks is best for the population of Wales, and has openly and honestly learned from any mistakes along the way"
Yep. He's handled an impossible situation pretty well, and been unafraid to take decisions that were unpopular in the short term, but the best thing for the long term.
"Plus my eldest son does a great take off of him, it's class "
That I'd love to see. |
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Drakeford has said he's only looking to serve the first year or so as FM in this new term. I'll be sad to see him go! Hopefully the torch gets passed on to someone who cares as much about the role as he does. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Drakeford has said he's only looking to serve the first year or so as FM in this new term. I'll be sad to see him go! Hopefully the torch gets passed on to someone who cares as much about the role as he does. "
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
"Drakeford has said he's only looking to serve the first year or so as FM in this new term. I'll be sad to see him go! Hopefully the torch gets passed on to someone who cares as much about the role as he does.
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I don't doubt Mark Drakeford isn't a good hard working politician I just find him uninspiring, dull and plain boring! He actually had a broad grin on his face after the election results! |
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Liane wood the plaid Cymru Marxist plank got voted out. Thats excellent news for wales
She stormed off the stage without congratulating the winner or her team who worked hard for her during the elections.
Good riddance ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Liane wood the plaid Cymru Marxist plank got voted out. Thats excellent news for wales
She stormed off the stage without congratulating the winner or her team who worked hard for her during the elections.
Good riddance ! "
I think you’ll find she did and shes not a marxist at all, have some respect for her |
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"Drakeford has said he's only looking to serve the first year or so as FM in this new term. I'll be sad to see him go! Hopefully the torch gets passed on to someone who cares as much about the role as he does.
I don't doubt Mark Drakeford isn't a good hard working politician I just find him uninspiring, dull and plain boring! He actually had a broad grin on his face after the election results! "
Oh he's about as exciting as a cucumber sandwich but I kind of think that's what we need right now. What with lurching between Brexit, covid, tory scandals etc.. we need dull and predictable leadership that has the turning circle of a supertanker |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Liane wood the plaid Cymru Marxist plank got voted out. Thats excellent news for wales
She stormed off the stage without congratulating the winner or her team who worked hard for her during the elections.
Good riddance ! "
Fake news
Bet you're furious that her seat going to Labour has given them a working majority though
Boo hoo |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Liane wood the plaid Cymru Marxist plank got voted out. Thats excellent news for wales
She stormed off the stage without congratulating the winner or her team who worked hard for her during the elections.
Good riddance ! "
Erm, I think you’ll find that the disrespect was aimed at her by Labour, not the other way round. And continued after the results |
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If the majority of the electorate respected Leanne wood and her ridiculous policies such as votes for 16 yr olds and making Wales a sanctuary nation they would have voted for her. Instead they rejected leanne wood , and by doing so they also rejected the fact that you can call people Nazis on a whim for simply having a different opinion
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People get to vote for whoever they want for whatever reason they want to.
You may not like the result but that's the way it goes. If you want to change things go out and campaign for them next ime around
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"Labour has been in power for 20 years, and have consistently underperformed each and every year.
From Ron Davies ( I was looking for badgers ) to Mark drakeford, they only invested money into projects in and around the south east Wales area.
Our education system is one of the worst in the world, the nhs funding WAS cut back, when the other nations expanded it.
Money has been spent at a ridiculous rate on expensive consultants, and then they ignored the advice they gave
Examples are, M4 relief road, circuit of Wales, LG in Newport.
Labour stopped working on the M4 relief road partly because of a convienent “ climate emergency “ and the cost £1.4 billion. Yet they have signed contracts to build / replace the A465 from Hirwaun to Dowlias top under a type of PFI for 25 years that will cost us the taxpayers £1.4 billion at today’s rate.
Everyone talks that the conservatives are elite, it’s labour that’s elite
We need a change in leadership, if only for one term to see if someone else can do it better."
Totally agree with this |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where's my popcorn?
Pass the bucket over would you mate?
Extremely greedy
Just trying to get in before you scoff the lot in we "
You take whatever you want MissP, Toby can have the leftovers. |
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"Where's my popcorn?
Pass the bucket over would you mate?
Extremely greedy
Just trying to get in before you scoff the lot in we
You take whatever you want MissP, Toby can have the leftovers. "
Fuck all new there
As you were all |
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"Labour has been in power for 20 years, and have consistently underperformed each and every year.
From Ron Davies ( I was looking for badgers ) to Mark drakeford, they only invested money into projects in and around the south east Wales area.
Our education system is one of the worst in the world, the nhs funding WAS cut back, when the other nations expanded it.
Money has been spent at a ridiculous rate on expensive consultants, and then they ignored the advice they gave
Examples are, M4 relief road, circuit of Wales, LG in Newport.
Labour stopped working on the M4 relief road partly because of a convienent “ climate emergency “ and the cost £1.4 billion. Yet they have signed contracts to build / replace the A465 from Hirwaun to Dowlias top under a type of PFI for 25 years that will cost us the taxpayers £1.4 billion at today’s rate.
Everyone talks that the conservatives are elite, it’s labour that’s elite
We need a change in leadership, if only for one term to see if someone else can do it better.
Totally agree with this "
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"On a lighter note has all the popcorn gone
Yes Toby swallowed it all in one
It's my party trick. Some guys down pints, some guys do the elephant joke. I swallow buckets of popcorn whole "
Sorry MissP, I tried to keep it away from him. Swallowing the actual bucket was impressive though to be fair |
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"Typical loony lefty response not prepared to accept any other point of view other than your own
If anyone disagrees with you Marxists you believe they should be punished "
You're entitled to your point of view but noone is obliged to agree with it
And the majority Wales don't agree with it either
I suggest you just chill out about it, the results didn't go your way but you can't change it. Not worth getting worked up over |
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Labour are corrupt, support terrorism, have the highest numbers of suspended MPs ans councillors, have Diane abbot, lammy and butler being tne three worst racists we have and believe socialism is tne answer when every other socialist country has failed. Voting Tory |
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"Labour are corrupt, support terrorism, have the highest numbers of suspended MPs ans councillors, have Diane abbot, lammy and butler being tne three worst racists we have and believe socialism is tne answer when every other socialist country has failed. Voting Tory "
MP's... This relates to Welsh elections.
Do you really want to start taking about corruption when it comes to the Tories? |
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The biggest problem with the current situation is that with a conservative central government and a labour Welsh government the two parties are using covid restrictions to score brownie points on each other rather than act in Wales’s best interests |
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If you do your research, Labour is way out in front for corruption. All MPs are corrupt and useless. Labour is worst . Support everything that is wrong and puts everyone else first before our own people. Who is more important, a refugee or our own vets and homeless? |
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