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Not wanting to start a riot lol, I’ll have to vote by post as currently living over the bridge but from Neath !
Just wondering if everyone is planning on voting for anyone as long as it’s not labour ! Mark Drakeford has shown just how out of touch they have been during the current pandemic.
The Police Crime Commissioner Election is also on same date, I’m thinking it’s going to be Conservative for both for me.
What’s everyone else’s thoughts and reasons ?
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By *uddsWoman
over a year ago
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Wont be voting for anyone,they are all as bad as each other.
All full of promises (ie shite) |
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Well in my humble opinion Mark Drakeford has done much better than Boris Johnson this past year or so.
I will be voting for Plaid Cymru though as I find myself leaning towards an indepedent Wales these days. |
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I definately won't be voting for that that lunatic Leanne wood , she has the IQ of a pull along duck and constantly calls everyone "far right" if they aren't a full blown communist |
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"Well in my humble opinion Mark Drakeford has done much better than Boris Johnson this past year or so.
I will be voting for Plaid Cymru though as I find myself leaning towards an indepedent Wales these days."
Agreed on Drakeford. He's tried to do the right thing, even when he knew it wouldn't be popular. |
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over a year ago
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Agreed on Drakeford. He's tried to do the right thing, even when he knew it wouldn't be popular. "
Also agree. He's mostly got it right, albeit he's potentially being overly cautious right now. Certainly a better bet than the alternatives in my opinion. |
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"Also agree. He's mostly got it right, albeit he's potentially being overly cautious right now. Certainly a better bet than the alternatives in my opinion."
I suspect we'll end up with the usual Labour/Plaid coalition, but with more Plaid members. Which suits me fine, to be frank. |
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"I definately won't be voting for that that lunatic Leanne wood , she has the IQ of a pull along duck and constantly calls everyone "far right" if they aren't a full blown communist "
Why are you singling Leanne Wood out for abuse? You live in Swansea. She represents the Rhondda. You can't vote for her. If you think she's still Plaid leader, that shows how much attention you've been paying. She hasn't been leader since 2018. It's Adam Price now. |
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Leanne Wood , She/Her, plaid Cymru representative for the Rhondda, welsh , European, socialist, feminist, anti-fascist, environmentalist, republican,
This politician is hypocrisy gold. Go on her twitter page and its like reading something written by a 14 yr old who has just discovered politics . Her buzz words are Nazis, far right, misogynist and fascists, she is an intolerant practitioner of bigoted student politics
She compares Marjorie Taylor green and Katie Hopkins to nazis in her tweet of 03/02/21
On 07/03/21 she tweeted "I'm still a socialist" socialism has never worked anywhere.
18/08/2019 she tweeted, "Anti fascists in the US need our solidarity as far right forces try to make out that they are the source of the problem. ANTIFA is short for anti fascist who here is proud to be anti fascist. "
We all remember the riots in America where Antifa ( a domestic home grown terrorist group) burned cities to the ground and killed many innocent people, yet Leanne Wood supports them
24/03/21 " the Tories are stinking, corrupt, lying, greedy, racist, capitalist little englanders who get off on the poverty & hardship of working class people "
I don't hate Leanne wood . I just think she is far too immature and naive to represent a politic party . In my humble opinion . Wales deserves a great deal better .
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All politicians are in it for themselves. None stick to their promises. Bring back the monster raving lunatic party. |
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I don't hate Leanne wood . I just think she is far too immature and naive to represent a politic party . In my humble opinion . Wales deserves a great deal better .
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You don't hate Leanne Wood? You certainly seem obsessed with her. You posted all that, when she hasn't been Plaid leader for three years and she isn't your AM. Then you criticise her maturity? You're a 64 year old man, for Christ's sake, but you argue like an idiot child. |
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"All politicians are in it for themselves. None stick to their promises. Bring back the monster raving lunatic party."
Not all politicians are in it for themselves. Some truly do want to serve their communities. It's easy to get jaded, and I've been through all that myself, but disillusionment with politicians creates an opportunity for the real shysters to get in. Look at Farage, claiming to be anti-political elite when he's been a big part of the political elite for 20 years.
I do support your point on the loonies, though. David Sutch was a good man and more sensible than many realised. A lot of his policies are law now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Did someone say “not wanting to start a riot”? lol.
Religion and politics ..... just don’t. |
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You need to ask yourself one question.........Are you happy with central government??. If so, vote blue, if not vote red, personally i dont see any point in voting anything inbetween as they will never gain total control of the country and therefore never be able to execute their policies.
Im sure everyone has lost some confidence in their chosen party over the past 18 months or so, but one day we will return to some type of normal, and then we will need to consider other things that make the country tick. Ultimately we live in a democracy. Good luck with your votes guys and girls, just dont waste it!!! |
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Only voted in general elections never bothered with local ones. Wasn't on the electoral roll for 20 years with moving around the country for work.
Now I'm in a labour strong hold and was forced back on the roll. So Captain Beany gets my vote that's when I can arsed going out to vote. |
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"You need to ask yourself one question.........Are you happy with central government??. If so, vote blue, if not vote red, personally i dont see any point in voting anything inbetween as they will never gain total control of the country and therefore never be able to execute their policies."
Labour has never had a majority of Senedd seats. They've always had 30 or fewer of the 60. They've always needed the support of other parties to make a working majority. |
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I always have and always will vote Plaid, couldn't really give a fuck what other people do. I have my own views on other parties and politicians but am mature enough to keep them to myself, especially not to go throwing personal insults around about specific Senedd Members, just because it suits my agenda. |
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Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
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Why do you think we should judge the Labour Government only on their pre-Covid performance when the Conservative Government in Westminster is riding on a poll boost because the vaccine rollout is going well? Surely how a government handles a crisis is pretty important? It's not a 'waist' [sic] of money if, when the chips are down, lives are saved. The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party is another front for Farage. I wouldn't trust any UKIPpers to run a whelk stall. |
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Honestly, I don't hate Leanne wood , I'm only drawing attention to the fact that she is just too stupid to be a spokesperson for Wales, having the IQ of a bar of soap
If you want evidence supporting my claim simply read her idiotic tweets!
thank you for your Leanne Wood style "Agist" remark. Highlighting my 64 years of age. Lol
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Interesting to see everyone's views, and I won't be sharing who I'm voting for.
All I would like to say is that if you feel fed up of politicians, please still vote, as not voting only makes it worse.
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By *ureNotsoCouple
over a year ago
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Indy Wales , let’s go it alone and make our nation proud .... Vote Plaid and make it happen |
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"Why do you think we should judge the Labour Government only on their pre-Covid performance when the Conservative Government in Westminster is riding on a poll boost because the vaccine rollout is going well? Surely how a government handles a crisis is pretty important? It's not a 'waist' [sic] of money if, when the chips are down, lives are saved. The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party is another front for Farage. I wouldn't trust any UKIPpers to run a whelk stall. "
I disagree governments should be judged on their whole term not just the one recent thing they may have done well
That is like saying a surgeon operated on a patient ultimately killing the patient but the stitches he used to sew up after were very neat ?
One good thing does not make up for all the things they have failed at.
As for boris . Only time will tell if he gets re elected based on his whole term not just the vaccine |
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"Indy Wales , let’s go it alone and make our nation proud .... Vote Plaid and make it happen "
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thank you for your Leanne Wood style "Agist" remark. Highlighting my 64 years of age. Lol
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It's not ageist to point out when a 64yo man is acting like a particularly unpleasant 12yo. |
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"Indy Wales , let’s go it alone and make our nation proud .... Vote Plaid and make it happen "
Yep, that's how I'm going. |
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Labour out, dickfords been a disaster has FM, Welsh labour have failed us miserably the last twenty years |
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Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
So using a nickname that most of wales uses for a person is not ok but questioning someone elses mental ability and the last part of your comment ??? Is that ok ???
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Surely who we vote for or intend to vote for - is our own constitutional right and nobody elses business ? |
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
So using a nickname that most of wales uses for a person is not ok but questioning someone elses mental ability and the last part of your comment ??? Is that ok ???
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Absolutely as it means I'd no longer be eligible to vote (or breed) |
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
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That made me chuckle |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
So using a nickname that most of wales uses for a person is not ok but questioning someone elses mental ability and the last part of your comment ??? Is that ok ???
Absolutely as it means I'd no longer be eligible to vote (or breed) "
The only place Ive heard that nickname used is on here and if the criteria of an IQ of 120 or above is needed I think most of Wales are out
Anyway Im off out to start delivering the 1st edition of the Yes Cymru newspaper  |
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over a year ago
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"Wont be voting for anyone,they are all as bad as each other.
All full of promises (ie shite)"
Our thoughts too |
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
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I would say any less than 130 on the British mensa - 120 is far too low,lol IMO |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone who contorts a person's name to insult them should really consider if they're mature enough to vote.
Which brings me onto my real agenda - if your IQ is less than 120 you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Or breed.
So using a nickname that most of wales uses for a person is not ok but questioning someone elses mental ability and the last part of your comment ??? Is that ok ???
Absolutely as it means I'd no longer be eligible to vote (or breed)
The only place Ive heard that nickname used is on here and if the criteria of an IQ of 120 or above is needed I think most of Wales are out
Anyway Im off out to start delivering the 1st edition of the Yes Cymru newspaper "
If you need a side kick Bubbs give me a nod, could do with getting some steps in |
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
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Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people.  |
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people. "
We're wide awake thanks huns
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people. "
Like the quote about the donkey. Have heard that a few times lately mainly from people in port talbot and most "were" labour supporters,not anymore.
Time the people of wales took a chance on a new direction instead of just ploddimg alone the same old path to yesteryear and looked forward to a better more prosperous wales and that wales does not include either dripford, gethin or the labour party even the education minister is jumping ship before may and she isn t part of the labour party. Watch how many covid restictions miraculously get brought forward just before may 6th
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people. "
You might want to fact check that reply... |
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"...Becoming more Woke by the minute, "
Being woke is a bad thing, is it? |
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people.
You might want to fact check that reply..."
They don't like facts.... |
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"...Becoming more Woke by the minute,
Being woke is a bad thing, is it?"
it is for those who are ashleep maybe |
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What facts need checking. As no exact facts that i can read just opinions ???? |
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I can just see _ogerbottoms chasing a donkey with a red rosette in one hand and a pin in the other. |
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people.
You might want to fact check that reply...
They don't like facts.... "
2 replies from you, 'we're' wide awake hun and 'they'don't like facts? is this the royal 'we'? and who exactly are 'they'?. Obviously you spend a lot of time on the Fab forum, perhaps you're getting a little bit too comfortable and think you can throw about these remarks because you're more relevant than others?
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has them and this forum is apparently the place to give them, 'hun' |
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voter demographic has broadened and it's great to know that the democratic process in Cymru is now far more inclusive than in previous years. coupled with social media use these days the message to get out and vote will hopefully see a far greater turn out amongst the younger generations. |
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"voter demographic has broadened and it's great to know that the democratic process in Cymru is now far more inclusive than in previous years. coupled with social media use these days the message to get out and vote will hopefully see a far greater turn out amongst the younger generations."
My eldest son has missed out by a few months on being able to vote this time but it's fantastic that younger people are getting the opportunity as they rightly should have a say |
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people.
You might want to fact check that reply...
They don't like facts....
2 replies from you, 'we're' wide awake hun and 'they'don't like facts? is this the royal 'we'? and who exactly are 'they'?. Obviously you spend a lot of time on the Fab forum, perhaps you're getting a little bit too comfortable and think you can throw about these remarks because you're more relevant than others?
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has them and this forum is apparently the place to give them, 'hun' "
It's an open forum and I, just like you, can say whatever I like, within site rules. If you don't like what I say, please feel free not to engage with me and pass my posts by. Have a pleasant day |
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over a year ago
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"Sorry to be blunt .but covid shouldn t come into this election the vote should be based on the performance of the welsh government before covid. In my opinion labour have failed the people of wales. Education is worse nhs was struggling before covid. Too much reliance was placed on eu money and labour have failed over 60%of their last election promises.also the waist of £142 million pound of tax payer money spent to consult the newport link road. Millions spent on the sennedd building when there are some stunning buildings in the bay area that are falling apart and could have been saved for a lot less. Time for a new party to take control. We should at least consider giving someone else 5 years to try. Dripford has said he will only serve 2.5 years but won't give any indication of who will succeed him. So why vote for someone who will be nameless in 2.5 years Is he on a final salary pension and is worried about a loss of pay/pension ? I will be voting but not 100% certain as too who. Just know it won t be labour. Who is standing in swansea for the abolish the assembly party. As i think it has been nothing but a waist of welsh tax payers money of which we pay too much
Spot on. Labour have had a 21 year trial and failed miserably. Education in Wales has been a disaster... NHS has been hopeless with authorities in special measures... No investment in much needed infrastructure, creating jobs... So desperate they gave the vote to 16 year old kids... Plan on giving the vote to Prisoners serving 4 years or less, Murderers then?... We are just about to be taxed off the M4...Speed limits of 20mph due to come in...Becoming more Woke by the minute, Wales it's on its knees and people seriously want more? If you put a red rosette on a Donkey, people in Wales would vote for it .... and don't get me started on Plaid, they would seriously f**k up this country. Rant over. Wake up people.
You might want to fact check that reply...
They don't like facts....
2 replies from you, 'we're' wide awake hun and 'they'don't like facts? is this the royal 'we'? and who exactly are 'they'?. Obviously you spend a lot of time on the Fab forum, perhaps you're getting a little bit too comfortable and think you can throw about these remarks because you're more relevant than others?
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has them and this forum is apparently the place to give them, 'hun'
It's an open forum and I, just like you, can say whatever I like, within site rules. If you don't like what I say, please feel free not to engage with me and pass my posts by. Have a pleasant day "
Lol, so open that when 'they' comment the respondent attempts to take a moral high ground that clearly doesn't exist. In the event I opine again, please feel free to pass me by too. Kind regards. |
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"What facts need checking. As no exact facts that i can read just opinions ????"
And therein lies part of the problem. Opinions are stated as facts these days.
Anyway, if you go back to the post I quoted there are some 'facts' stated. |
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"What facts need checking. As no exact facts that i can read just opinions ????
And therein lies part of the problem. Opinions are stated as facts these days.
Anyway, if you go back to the post I quoted there are some 'facts' stated. "
You mean to say I shouldn't be listening to Karen on Facebook? |
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By *9alMan
over a year ago
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I have lived both sides of the border moved to Wales 4 years ago. Tory austerity has hit both sides badly but in Wales at least they have made some effort free prescriptions hospital parking etc if you are very rich England is a good place to live but if you are an ordinary working man its expensive to live. Dont let the Tory's ruin Wales . |
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"I can just see _ogerbottoms chasing a donkey with a red rosette in one hand and a pin in the other."
It's a niche fantasy, certainly, but knock yourself out if it gets you going. |
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I'm not going to vote for any political candidate who:
Is a convicted criminal
Ignored the democratic vote to leave the eu and worked to undermine brexit
Fiddled their expenses
Took the knee for black lives matter
Supports Antifa
Voted to make Wales a nation of sanctuary
Voted to allow 16 yr olds and criminals to vote
Bangs on about white privilege
Voted for the introduction of the "freedom pass"
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"I'm not going to vote for any political candidate who:
Is a convicted criminal
Ignored the democratic vote to leave the eu and worked to undermine brexit
Fiddled their expenses
Took the knee for black lives matter
Supports Antifa
Voted to make Wales a nation of sanctuary
Voted to allow 16 yr olds and criminals to vote
Bangs on about white privilege
Voted for the introduction of the "freedom pass"
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Hmmm....who does that leave...?
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over a year ago
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"I'm not going to vote for any political candidate who:
Is a convicted criminal
Ignored the democratic vote to leave the eu and worked to undermine brexit
Fiddled their expenses
Took the knee for black lives matter
Supports Antifa
Voted to make Wales a nation of sanctuary
Voted to allow 16 yr olds and criminals to vote
Bangs on about white privilege
Voted for the introduction of the "freedom pass"
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You vote for whoever you like
You don't have to justify it to strangers on here |
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"I'm not going to vote for any political candidate who:
Is a convicted criminal
Ignored the democratic vote to leave the eu and worked to undermine brexit
Fiddled their expenses
Took the knee for black lives matter
Supports Antifa
Voted to make Wales a nation of sanctuary
Voted to allow 16 yr olds and criminals to vote
Bangs on about white privilege
Voted for the introduction of the "freedom pass"
And who is this ?????
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I've met several politicians all of whom genuinely believed in what they preached as far as I could tell.
Sadly the political establishment is strong and control of the press is or at least was so important. Now its the internet. 10 years ago that seemed great. Now I'm not so sure but that's another debate.
However we do still live in a democracy & while I'll probably disagree with roughly half the views here (that's democracy), I'd urge everyone to vote. Why would you not?
If you vote, but your choice doesn't get in then you can complain. IMO, if you cant be bothered to vote, you shouldn't voice an opinion!!
(and yes I do get the irony....!!)
Power to the people!!
Citizen Smith |
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over a year ago
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"I've met several politicians all of whom genuinely believed in what they preached as far as I could tell.
Sadly the political establishment is strong and control of the press is or at least was so important. Now its the internet. 10 years ago that seemed great. Now I'm not so sure but that's another debate.
However we do still live in a democracy & while I'll probably disagree with roughly half the views here (that's democracy), I'd urge everyone to vote. Why would you not?
If you vote, but your choice doesn't get in then you can complain. IMO, if you cant be bothered to vote, you shouldn't voice an opinion!!
(and yes I do get the irony....!!)
Power to the people!!
Citizen Smith"
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Supports Antifa
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Antifa is short for 'anti-fascist'. Are you saying that you're pro-fascist? That seems to be the logical conclusion. |
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"Citizen Smith"
Nice one, Wolfie. |
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"I have lived both sides of the border moved to Wales 4 years ago. Tory austerity has hit both sides badly but in Wales at least they have made some effort free prescriptions hospital parking etc if you are very rich England is a good place to live but if you are an ordinary working man its expensive to live. Dont let the Tory's ruin Wales . "
Yep, having moved here from England a few years ago, I'm hugely appreciative of the small civilised differences between the way Westminster runs things and the way things are done here. |
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Antifa is terrorist organisation not to be confused with the term anti fascist.
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Haven’t and never will vote |
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"Antifa is terrorist organisation not to be confused with the term anti fascist.
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It is neither terrorist nor an organisation. It is a movement. If you're anti-fascist, you're antifa. If you're not antifa, you're fa.
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Antifa are the modern day hitler youth movement and are funded by George soros
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"Antifa are the modern day hitler youth movement and are funded by George soros
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so you must be a member of profa then, is that correct? |
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so what are the Profa organisation? no, wait, let me guess .... marxist leninists? |
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antifa are a far left, communist, terrorist group . You can go on about profa if you must?
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" antifa are a far left, communist, terrorist group . You can go on about profa if you must?
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and your saying you are a memeber of the profa organisation, is that correct? |
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over a year ago
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thats who this household will be voting for |
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over a year ago
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Well said my man |
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over a year ago
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I have never understood the mentality of people who refuse to vote. It is your fundamental right as a citizen of this country. People died for the right for the common person to vote. All politicians have flaws, but they certainly aren’t all the same. At least vote for the ones you despise the least or you can’t have a say on how the government is doing.
As for the whole antifa thing. We should all be anti fascist. Every single one of us. Many of our parents, great grandparents and even Great great grandparents were the original Antifa, who travelled from Wales fight against a real facist government in Spain. Don’t spit on their sacrifice.
We will be voting Plaid because we are believers in an independent Wales, but you guys vote who you want to. It’s better to look back and say “yeah I voted to make that happen, as opposed to “I wish I did something to stop that”
Peace and love to you all, hope to see you again soon. John |
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"Antifa are the modern day hitler youth movement and are funded by George soros
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The "modern day Hitler Youth movement" is funded by a Jew? |
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"Antifa are the fascists! "
No, it's still the fascists who are the fascists. |
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"I have never understood the mentality of people who refuse to vote. It is your fundamental right as a citizen of this country. People died for the right for the common person to vote. All politicians have flaws, but they certainly aren’t all the same. At least vote for the ones you despise the least or you can’t have a say on how the government is doing.
As for the whole antifa thing. We should all be anti fascist. Every single one of us. Many of our parents, great grandparents and even Great great grandparents were the original Antifa, who travelled from Wales fight against a real facist government in Spain. Don’t spit on their sacrifice.
We will be voting Plaid because we are believers in an independent Wales, but you guys vote who you want to. It’s better to look back and say “yeah I voted to make that happen, as opposed to “I wish I did something to stop that”
Peace and love to you all, hope to see you again soon. John"
BRAVO. |
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Sorry, I read this thread title as "erections". I'm currently still weighing up my political options, but I have a feeling I might vote differently to the past. |
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I think that seems to be the way most are feeling. Take out the covid response from the equation and go by past records doesn t look to good for labour |
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George soros and his father collaborated with the nazis and profited by confiscating the property of the Jews for themselves . George soros stated on film it was the "best years " of his life working with the nazis |
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"I think that seems to be the way most are feeling. Take out the covid response from the equation and go by past records doesn t look to good for labour "
My money is on Labour still being the largest party, but with fewer seats, forming an alliance with Plaid, as they have since the start. |
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"George soros and his father collaborated with the nazis and profited by confiscating the property of the Jews for themselves . "
No they didn't. There's a very good Washington Post article online, debunking the five most frequently repeated myths about Soros. That's the first one they deal with.
" George soros stated on film it was the "best years " of his life working with the nazis"
Oh Christ, you're one of those gullible idiots who watches conspiracy theory bollocks on YouTube, aren't you? Do you bring all this shit up on meets? |
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Oh God! You are one of those brainwashed marxist sheep who believe all the claptrap you see on the BBC.
Have a look on you tube "George Soros admits working with nazis was happiest time of his life.
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My insane grandmother would love this thread.... |
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is George Soros standing as a candidate for one of the recions then? |
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"Oh God! You are one of those brainwashed marxist sheep who believe all the claptrap you see on the BBC.
Have a look on you tube "George Soros admits working with nazis was happiest time of his life.
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You do realise that anybody can post just about anything they like on YouTube? And they do. Let me guess, you don't trust the BBC, but you do trust David Icke? |
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"My insane grandmother would love this thread.... "
Are you sure this conspiracy theorist bloke isn't your insane grandmother? |
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"My insane grandmother would love this thread....
Are you sure this conspiracy theorist bloke isn't your insane grandmother?"
I fucking hope not  |
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"My insane grandmother would love this thread....
Are you sure this conspiracy theorist bloke isn't your insane grandmother?
I fucking hope not "
*quickly hides profile.... |
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Insanity must run in your family |
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By *elt77Man
over a year ago
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If you live in Wales, it doesn't matter weather your Welsh, English, Scottish, Irish or whatever, you should want what's best for the country you and your children are in.clearly Westminster has never worked for Wales, it never will. So Time to break away. Independent Wales. Only Plaid can give Wales and its people a better life. Vote yes Wales. Cymru am byth. Celt. |
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Sorry but hate to disagree. As much as i love my country wales being independant would never work. As we rely to heavily on the uk as a whole but especially westminster for funding ( furlough is a perfect example). Also the head of plaid has addmited it he was voted in as first minister he would try to take us back into europe even though 90+% of welsh people voted to leave ?
Hate to say it but only conservatives or labour hold enough support to lead and i dont think either have enough support to do it alone..
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The Conservatives have come third in every Senedd election apart from 2011. Even if they come second on 6 May, Labour will almost certainly be the largest party and will prefer to work with Plaid. |
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Where did you get that nonsense about the Welsh leave vote being 90%? It was 52.5%. |
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Not accordimg the the bbc on the radio the other day. And at the same time the said only 15% want independant wales and 27% want to abolish the senedd.radio wales last wed or thursday morning before 830 when the interviewed the leader of plaid. Very uncomfortable listening as he couldn t answer most of her questions and just kept repeating himself |
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"If you live in Wales, it doesn't matter weather your Welsh, English, Scottish, Irish or whatever, you should want what's best for the country you and your children are in.clearly Westminster has never worked for Wales, it never will. So Time to break away. Independent Wales. Only Plaid can give Wales and its people a better life. Vote yes Wales. Cymru am byth. Celt."
It will be a while before we achieve independence but I believe we will see it in my life time
It is very sad to see people have been so heavily conditioned into believing we must rely on Westminster for the rest of eternity
As the younger generations move along, the independence movement will continue to gain momentum
It will just come down to picking the right time for a referendum.
Not holding one too early as a knee jerk
We will get there
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By *elt77Man
over a year ago
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Morning, well I strongly disagree with your information, what's your source, 90% of Welsh people?.or other nationalities living in Wales. I'm afraid people don't recognise most of these stats come from the Westminster propaganda news machine Lol. Wales would be better off with Europe, look at Ireland, so much better off.I take it you not seen plaids referendum manifesto beginning with a speech from an 18 year old girl?.Adam price says it true. And you like many people living in Wales are subject to the Westminster brainwashing bullshit. Vote for your country, it needs you. Or go live nearer Westminster. Celt. |
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So if we were to rejoin the eu do you think we wouldnt have a fixed border between england and wales.
Ireland have an legal agreement in place and look what the eu rules are doing to that.
Independant wales think not in my lifetime.
Celt i take it your a wales for the welsh only person ?? |
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Ireland have an legal agreement in place and look what the eu rules are doing to that."
Are you saying what's happening in Ireland is the EU's fault? |
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Partially. Also look at the problem with fishermen here unable to send their fish over to france as per pre brexit to have the fish cleaned and preped for french resaurants now told they have to be cleaned before going to be cleaned. Also a company in ireland hired a jcb from a welsh firm and it wasn t allowed to enter ireland as it had welsh earth on it. Something to do with bio hazards being brought into the eu from outside |
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The eu beaurocrats are doing their best to make it difficult for us and want it to look like we are failing without them as they a frightened that other countries will see we are doing ok and also want to leave. Prime examples are greece italy malta and even parts of germany want out |
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Doris, Ugli Patel and Matt Smallcock are all full of shite, and should be put up against a wall and shot, each and every one of the three of 'em. End of!
It's all a LIB LAB CON, and it's time people turned against the three main political parties as all they do is shaft us big time, and lie, lie, lie |
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"Doris, Ugli Patel and Matt Smallcock are all full of shite, and should be put up against a wall and shot, each and every one of the three of 'em. End of!
It's all a LIB LAB CON, and it's time people turned against the three main political parties as all they do is shaft us big time, and lie, lie, lie"
What has that got to do with welsh elections and partiez plans if they get back in |
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"Sorry but hate to disagree. As much as i love my country wales being independant would never work. As we rely to heavily on the uk as a whole but especially westminster for funding ( furlough is a perfect example). Also the head of plaid has addmited it he was voted in as first minister he would try to take us back into europe even though 90+% of welsh people voted to leave ?
Hate to say it but only conservatives or labour hold enough support to lead and i dont think either have enough support to do it alone..
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90% is nowhere near the amount voting for brexit. It was also shown that a huge number of those who voted brexit in Wales were actually not from Wales. As for us getting funding from Westminster, thats only because all of our money goes there and we get a percentage back. Which is less than we actually put in |
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If you couldn't understand the jist of what I was stating, it was DO NOT vote for any of the LIN LAB CON. Simples really... |
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"If you couldn't understand the jist of what I was stating, it was DO NOT vote for any of the LIN LAB CON. Simples really..."
Plaid, then? You don't seem like a gammon. |
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Personally will be voting for Plaid, indy wales is the best option and especially dont want to be associated with Tory cronyism in Westminister. A lot of people my generation i know will be voting Plaid as we have grown up with devolution and we can see that Wales are not afraid to make a decision for ourselves rather than rely and wait on London, covid 19 a good example! |
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You say you have grown up with devolution and the way wales has handled covid. Hate to say but the entire time has been spent under labour rule . Plaid have had no say in the running of wales. Yes it would be nice to imagine an independant wales but not going to happen for a very long long time. When at the last pole only 15% want independance and 27% want to abolish the assembly .
I am a very proud welshman but also realistic. Plaid will not win the election and like the last election if they join with labour adam price may be given a seat at the big table as a reward.
Look at lianne woods then leader of plaid given a role in education. That for 15 years previous had been under funded and under valued by labour ( she was destined to be the fall guy.) and has since anounced she is stepping down from the asssmbly. Before she gets pushed.
No party is a perfect fit but wales cannot keep voting for labour on the hope things may get better as they won't.
Time for a new direction .
Lib dems - not strong enough no real structure
Labour - 20 years of bad track history and a leader who will not be there in 2 years and who was never voted for in the first place.
Plaid - no real viable plan except to push for independance.
Conservatives - not most popular but a outside option (maybe in coalition with ?) if you are not a borris hater.
Ukip - semi racists and never an option but have a good idea to abolish assembly
Abolish assembly - again good idea but no hope
Monster raving looney party -
Probably the sanest of all the parties.
Greens- nice ideas but too many tree huggers and not enough clout.
These are just my opinions and everyone who is allowed to vote should. Because if you don't vote then you really have no right to complain in the future if whatever party gets in does things you don t like.
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Our local Labour Party is full of cronies and nepotism so as a first for a life long labour voter I’m going for Plaid in the Assembly and Independent for the PCC.
Our AM is Jack Sargeant who only got the job because of his father, then spent the first 2 years pushing for an inquest into the handling of allegations that led to his father’s suicide. He then had the inquest closed down when the allegations started to be revealed |
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Pcc i agree should be an independant candidate and their political affiliation should not come into it or be allowed to come into it.
I know it is unlikely but i think possibly the best we could hope for in wales would be a conservative / plaid coalition assembly.
As if they cannot work together then labour may hold back wales for another 5 years. |
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By *elt77Man
over a year ago
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"So if we were to rejoin the eu do you think we wouldnt have a fixed border between england and wales.
Ireland have an legal agreement in place and look what the eu rules are doing to that.
Independant wales think not in my lifetime.
Celt i take it your a wales for the =welsh only person ??"
= Lol,no I'm a Wales for whoever wants to help Wales achieve what every country wants, to be in control of their own destiny. If I live in Spain for example, I would want to help Spain achieve what is best for all the people living there. Now England didn't like being ruled from Brussels, So why should Wales be ruled from Westminster. And I'm not anti English or against any other nationalities. But I am against Westminster rule in Wales. Of course if you don't like the idea of independence for wales, and borders which can be managed far better than Ireland. Of course you could find a home elsewhere.You need to ask yourselves are you voting for what's best for Wales, Or like all the English living in Wales, Voting for the best for England. Seriously, come on?.The realistic stats are there. Celt. |
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"Well in my humble opinion Mark Drakeford has done much better than Boris Johnson this past year or so.
I will be voting for Plaid Cymru though as I find myself leaning towards an indepedent Wales these days."
I think he’s done ok. Damned if he does and damned if he’s doesn’t.
Can’t see the conservatives winning in Wales though and I’m certainly not going to help them! Maybe Plaid or a Labour/Plaid government as no outright majority? |
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By *elt77Man
over a year ago
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"Well in my humble opinion Mark Drakeford has done much better than Boris Johnson this past year or so.
I will be voting for Plaid Cymru though as I find myself leaning towards an indepedent Wales these days.
I think he’s done ok. Damned if he does and damned if he’s doesn’t.
Can’t see the conservatives winning in Wales though and I’m certainly not going to help them! Maybe Plaid or a Labour/Plaid government as no outright majority? "
= But that's what we need to change, people think that because of the Westminster propaganda machine. Vote for a change and a better wales for us all to live in, together hand in hand as friends. Vote Plaid cymru. It's the only way it will change. Independant wales. CELT. |
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"Indy Wales , let’s go it alone and make our nation proud .... Vote Plaid and make it happen "
An independent Wales would never survive financially
Besides those that want independence normally say that the first thing they will do is rejoin the EU (if the EU would allow it )
Hardly independent |
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Tend to agree bit also we could not afcord to rejoin the eu. And can you imagine wales using the euro ???? |
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If Wales were to be independent, we would have to do a referendum on whether we wanted to be in the EU or not, we would be able to survive without the UK as we are not too poor and to small because every other country that is independent is doing well (new zealand, iceland, estonia) so why can’t we? |
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over a year ago
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"Tend to agree bit also we could not afcord to rejoin the eu. And can you imagine wales using the euro ????"
And we would have a choice on whether we could use the euro or not, lots of countries in the eu have their own currency as well, an example is Poland, another one was the UK.
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I'm happy to wait until Annemarie Waters gets some following in Wales. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wales has a higher gdp than 127 other countries in the world. We would be fine |
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"I'm happy to wait until Annemarie Waters gets some following in Wales. "
Hopefully never, then. |
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"I think he’s done ok. Damned if he does and damned if he’s doesn’t."
Agreed. Drakeford and Gething seem to have tried to do what's right for the population rather than what's right for the party and its financial backers. |
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i have to say i think Drakeford has done a good job with regards to lockdown and easing of things, he hasn't rushed to open things its been slow and steady... Boris well he has completely messed things up... so i will be voting labour as i always have |
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The assembly election should not have anything to to do with how they have dealt with covid( as we do not know how the other parties may have dealt with it). But what labour has done for wales in the last 20 years of rule. Same promises made every election and never backed up.
Education one of the worst in europe maybe even the world.( and i can say that as mrs b works in education and has to deal day in day out with labours cost cuts and daft new ideas on how children should be taught.)
Nhs seriously underfunded ie icu wards running at 140-150% of capacity on more and more occasions before covid (various published reports to prove this) we have one of the lowest intesive care bed numbers per capita head in europe.
Welsh workers amongst the lowest paid in europe. Council tax bills constantly increasing year on year. Most people in wales have not had a pay rise to speak of but councilors and am's keep awarding themselves one.
Money waisted of consultations fees for various prodjects that never went ahead.
And to add to it all a leader who no one voted for in the first place. Plus who plans to leave half way through if elected to leave us again with someone we did not vote for(we voted to get out of europe because were being told what to do by peope we didn t vote for)
And labour want you to do it all over again.
Think it may be time to give someone else a go. And if in 5 years they fail too then all the labour supporters can say 'told you so'. But lets at least give someone else the opportunity to show how bad labour have been
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"i have to say i think Drakeford has done a good job with regards to lockdown and easing of things, he hasn't rushed to open things its been slow and steady... Boris well he has completely messed things up... so i will be voting labour as i always have "
a very factual post |
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"The assembly election should not have anything to to do with how they have dealt with covid( as we do not know how the other parties may have dealt with it). But what labour has done for wales in the last 20 years of rule. Same promises made every election and never backed up.
Education one of the worst in europe maybe even the world.( and i can say that as mrs b works in education and has to deal day in day out with labours cost cuts and daft new ideas on how children should be taught.)
Nhs seriously underfunded ie icu wards running at 140-150% of capacity on more and more occasions before covid (various published reports to prove this) we have one of the lowest intesive care bed numbers per capita head in europe.
Welsh workers amongst the lowest paid in europe. Council tax bills constantly increasing year on year. Most people in wales have not had a pay rise to speak of but councilors and am's keep awarding themselves one.
Money waisted of consultations fees for various prodjects that never went ahead.
And to add to it all a leader who no one voted for in the first place. Plus who plans to leave half way through if elected to leave us again with someone we did not vote for(we voted to get out of europe because were being told what to do by peope we didn t vote for)
And labour want you to do it all over again.
Think it may be time to give someone else a go. And if in 5 years they fail too then all the labour supporters can say 'told you so'. But lets at least give someone else the opportunity to show how bad labour have been
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And tell me what is the reason why our nhs is run to the ground? Where do we get the money for funding NHS Wales from? Barnett formula, and that has been going down ever since Tory in Westminister has gone into power. And i take it you want Andrew RT Davies in? |
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Not 100% sure who i am going to vote for yet just know it won t be labour. Time for a new direction that isn t going to be a repeat of tried and failing |
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over a year ago
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I wont say who you should vote for but i would say have a look at all parties policies and see which ones you like and read over them. |
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people have a democratic right to waste their vote on the welsh conservative party. |
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It is absolutely crazy. Hair dressers opened in Wales two weeks before England gyms have opened in England three weeks before Wales.
Surely the UK has experts advising.
So do Wales have different experts than England or is it much more about politics than safety?
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clearly the english goverment have had a blatent disregard for safety concerning covid over the last 14 months so it would appear that the decisions made there have been purely political. |
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"It is absolutely crazy. Hair dressers opened in Wales two weeks before England gyms have opened in England three weeks before Wales.
Surely the UK has experts advising.
So do Wales have different experts than England or is it much more about politics than safety?
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Nail on the head.
I respect other people's opinions but don't personally believe lockdowns for healthy people should ever happened at all.
Just my own opinion. |
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"The assembly election should not have anything to to do with how they have dealt with covid( as we do not know how the other parties may have dealt with it). But what labour has done for wales in the last 20 years of rule. Same promises made every election and never backed up.
Education one of the worst in europe maybe even the world.( and i can say that as mrs b works in education and has to deal day in day out with labours cost cuts and daft new ideas on how children should be taught.)
Nhs seriously underfunded ie icu wards running at 140-150% of capacity on more and more occasions before covid (various published reports to prove this) we have one of the lowest intesive care bed numbers per capita head in europe.
Welsh workers amongst the lowest paid in europe. Council tax bills constantly increasing year on year. Most people in wales have not had a pay rise to speak of but councilors and am's keep awarding themselves one.
Money waisted of consultations fees for various prodjects that never went ahead.
And to add to it all a leader who no one voted for in the first place. Plus who plans to leave half way through if elected to leave us again with someone we did not vote for(we voted to get out of europe because were being told what to do by peope we didn t vote for)
And labour want you to do it all over again.
Think it may be time to give someone else a go. And if in 5 years they fail too then all the labour supporters can say 'told you so'. But lets at least give someone else the opportunity to show how bad labour have been
And tell me what is the reason why our nhs is run to the ground? Where do we get the money for funding NHS Wales from? Barnett formula, and that has been going down ever since Tory in Westminister has gone into power. And i take it you want Andrew RT Davies in? "
Ever thought that with the tories in power in the WAG that funding from Westminster might actually rise?
Of course we’ll never know because Wales would vote for a red rosette on new born lamb than vote for anyone else |
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Wales will vote for anything as long as its red. Why not give someone else a go and see if like leaving the eu we can make a better go of it with a new less shackled outlook. Time to look to the future not dwell on the past. |
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"I think you hit the nail on the head. Wales will vote for anything as long as its red. Why not give someone else a go and see if like leaving the eu we can make a better go of it with a new less shackled outlook. Time to look to the future not dwell on the past. "
I definitely agree with a less shackled outlook
An independent Wales is definitely the way forward
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Looking at their policies.
Best option for wales would be a plaid/conservative coalition
Both seem to want what is best for wales. Plaid claim to represent what the wesh people want but do not know how to fund it. and the conservatives would have a more favourable ear in westminster and may be able to get us the funding plaid want. But those are just my thoughts |
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"Best option for wales would be a plaid/conservative coalition"
Electorally unlikely and hell would freeze over first. Plaid and Labour have a history of working together. I suspect we'll have a Labour/Plaid coalition again, but with Plaid having more seats and more influence. The Tories have the clueless Andrew RT Davies, who is unwittingly Labour's greatest asset. |
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"Best option for wales would be a plaid/conservative coalition
Electorally unlikely and hell would freeze over first. Plaid and Labour have a history of working together. I suspect we'll have a Labour/Plaid coalition again, but with Plaid having more seats and more influence. The Tories have the clueless Andrew RT Davies, who is unwittingly Labour's greatest asset. "
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Current polling suggests Labour down from 29 to 22. Conservatives up from 10 to 19. Plaid up from 10 to 14. Abolish the Assembly on 4 and LibDems on 1. This suggests Neil Hamilton and UKIP will be out. So, it's likely to be a Labour/Plaid alliance with Plaid having a more equal say. The LibDems will most likely vote with Labour/Plaid, so that's a block of 37 seats representing progressive parties.
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Really don t want labour to get back in
20 years they ve been there and look at the state wales is in. Would really love to see someone different given a go as they couldn t be any worse. |
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"Really don t want labour to get back in "
Really? You haven't said this before repeatedly.
Anyway, what I've said above isn't necessarily what I hope will happen. It's merely what the polls suggest is likely to happen.
"20 years they ve been there and look at the state wales is in. Would really love to see someone different given a go as they couldn t be any worse."
That really is a stunningly stupid way of deciding your vote. And it's stupidity cubed when you think the Conservatives couldn't be worse. |
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The same Plaid that once said "it's England's war" as nazi Germany were moving through Europe? In hope that they would leave Wales alone.
Also the Plaid that wants to become a sanctuary state for anyone fleeing their country.
Not for me Thankyou. |
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"The same Plaid that once said "it's England's war" as nazi Germany were moving through Europe? In hope that they would leave Wales alone.
Also the Plaid that wants to become a sanctuary state for anyone fleeing their country.
Not for me Thankyou. "
Plaid were neutral on the 2nd World War (just like Ireland) and its members were free to choose their standpoint on the conflict.
I can see why you wouldn't want immigrants coming over here, enhancing the economy, adding value... |
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"The same Plaid that once said "it's England's war" as nazi Germany were moving through Europe? In hope that they would leave Wales alone.
Also the Plaid that wants to become a sanctuary state for anyone fleeing their country.
Not for me Thankyou. "
Versus the same Conservatives who spent most of the 30s trying to appease Hitler? It's probably not a great idea to base your vote in 2021 on the policies of 80 years ago. |
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"The same Plaid that once said "it's England's war" as nazi Germany were moving through Europe? In hope that they would leave Wales alone.
Also the Plaid that wants to become a sanctuary state for anyone fleeing their country.
Not for me Thankyou.
Versus the same Conservatives who spent most of the 30s trying to appease Hitler? It's probably not a great idea to base your vote in 2021 on the policies of 80 years ago. "
I'm all for immigration.
It's been invaluable to us and just about every other country. The current level of immigration (uncontrolled) is unsustainable.
To my mind Plaid should never have been on the fence during such attrocities. I'm shocked that anyone would condone it if I'm honest but I respect all opinions.
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You're very easily shocked then. Should you be on a site like this? |
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Adam price did not do himself any favours tonight when interviewed from the bits i saw on tv. Did not have answers to half the important questions and seemed to keep repeating himself about not being able to fully plan things while in oposition ?
I Would have thought while your in oposition that would be the ideal time to plan your stratagy and be more prepared, he gave the impression of a man who had already accepted defeat so did not prepare properly.
I still feel we need to see a change and new attitude in wales and it is lookimg more likely it will come from either the conservatives or the anti assembly party. Starting to think why bother voting if the majority of labour voters in wales will vote a faceless first minister in (once dripfords gone) why waste my vote as it may make no difference we will still have the same people leading wales in the same direction and relying on past unfulfilled promises |
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"Adam price did not do himself any favours tonight when interviewed from the bits i saw on tv. Did not have answers to half the important questions and seemed to keep repeating himself about not being able to fully plan things while in oposition ? "
Boris Johnson couldn't even name his own West of England Mayor today, so you might want to cut Price some slack when it comes to answering questions.
"I still feel we need to see a change and new attitude in wales and it is lookimg more likely it will come from either the conservatives or the anti assembly party."
The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party is just a load of old UKIP tossers, and the Conservatives are the Conservatives. I have no idea why you would expect change or a new attitude to come from that direction.
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To be honest .we can all hope for a new future ! But there definitely won't be any new directing if labour get back in just another 5 years of old promoses and playing the blame game on others.
At the end of the day they are trying to score brownie points of each other to save their overpaid jobs. Can t wait for this friday when dripford will more than likely announce that he has brought forward the easing of more lockdown measures due to the good figures( when in fact what he means is vote for me please.) Pubs open indoors on may 7th if labour win ? |
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By *roticusCouple
over a year ago
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Plaid and an independence referendum.
Wales has a great future as an independent state. |
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"You're very easily shocked then. Should you be on a site like this?"
Haha that did make me laugh.
As a veteran I know many of my fellow serviceman living on the streets and struggling on the breadline. PTSD playing a part and no help from any government all empty promises.
There will be no apologies from me for believing those who have served should be housed and cared for first.
I will repeat though. I respect all opinion and believe all are personal and valid. |
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Oh, the old soldier act. Of course. How tedious. |
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"Oh, the old soldier act. Of course. How tedious. "
No need to be a complete knobhead about it.
Until now I've engaged with respect.
You, unfortunately deserve none.
As I said. I respect anyone elses opinion.
I stand by mine.
Dickhead.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"To be honest .we can all hope for a new future ! But there definitely won't be any new directing if labour get back in just another 5 years of old promoses and playing the blame game on others.
At the end of the day they are trying to score brownie points of each other to save their overpaid jobs. Can t wait for this friday when dripford will more than likely announce that he has brought forward the easing of more lockdown measures due to the good figures( when in fact what he means is vote for me please.) Pubs open indoors on may 7th if labour win ?"
My crystal ball and your comments on numerous threads over the last few months make me think youll be voting Conservative which is your choice. |
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over a year ago
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"Oh, the old soldier act. Of course. How tedious.
No need to be a complete knobhead about it.
Until now I've engaged with respect.
You, unfortunately deserve none.
As I said. I respect anyone elses opinion.
I stand by mine.
Dickhead.
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I agree with your comments about soldiers but they are one group of many who need more help.
Not enough social housing . People not being given enough money to live on or to feed their kids. Retirement age going up and up. The list is never ending sadly.
You have to feel for the younger generations as they will feel the effect of this pandemic and its costs for a very long time. |
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"To be honest .we can all hope for a new future ! But there definitely won't be any new directing if labour get back in just another 5 years of old promoses and playing the blame game on others.
At the end of the day they are trying to score brownie points of each other to save their overpaid jobs. Can t wait for this friday when dripford will more than likely announce that he has brought forward the easing of more lockdown measures due to the good figures( when in fact what he means is vote for me please.) Pubs open indoors on may 7th if labour win ?
My crystal ball and your comments on numerous threads over the last few months make me think youll be voting Conservative which is your choice."
Tbh not voted for them before but it is lookimg more likely that i will as seem to be best option of gettimg what they say they will do, done and take wales forward not sideways or backwards. But i do still like some of plaids manifesto but how they would pay for it is another matter
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"Oh, the old soldier act. Of course. How tedious.
No need to be a complete knobhead about it.
Until now I've engaged with respect.
You, unfortunately deserve none.
As I said. I respect anyone elses opinion.
I stand by mine.
Dickhead.
I agree with your comments about soldiers but they are one group of many who need more help.
Not enough social housing . People not being given enough money to live on or to feed their kids. Retirement age going up and up. The list is never ending sadly.
You have to feel for the younger generations as they will feel the effect of this pandemic and its costs for a very long time."
Totally agree. The younger generation deserves better.
They have a lifetime of higher taxes and God knows what else in this crazy world. |
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"Dickhead."
Don't be so hard on yourself.
It is unbelievably tedious when anyone tries to pull rank, so to speak, in order to make out that their opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else's. Having served in the military doesn't make anyone more worthy of respect than anyone who hasn't. |
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over a year ago
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"Oh, the old soldier act. Of course. How tedious.
No need to be a complete knobhead about it.
Until now I've engaged with respect.
You, unfortunately deserve none.
As I said. I respect anyone elses opinion.
I stand by mine.
Dickhead.
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Name calling probably reduces your chances of gaining any respect drastically |
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