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New coronavirus guidelines have made it illegal to have sex in your own home with a person from another household from today. The government is set to lay out the new regulations this morning, which will ban people from socialising indoors with a person from outside your household bubble. The new regulation reads: ‘No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.’ Until today, the person who goes inside another person’s home would have been the one breaching the rules. However, now both people could be prosecuted under the new amendment to the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Regulations 2020 bill, that is set to be presented before Parliament on Monday morning. Previous rules did not include wording about meeting in private places as the general message was to ‘stay at home’ and to avoid all but essential travel. Now only those with ‘reasonable excuses’ will be allowed to meet privately indoors – which does not include meeting up to have sex. Reasonable excuses cover elite athletes, vulnerable people and key workers, states regulation.
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Impossible to enforce. Waste of the paper it's written on. If people start grassing others up and the police do follow up reports it would be quite easy to say you were ill and the visitor was there to provide care which has always been an exemption. Or that the person had just moved in. What a lot of absolute bollocks this country has come to. |
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"I dont live with my partner of 3 years. It's very frustrating especially when both of us work in care sector and go into other homes daily. "
I’m sorry you are going thro this but you are doing the right thing xxxx |
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"Not everyone is shielding lockdown you all are still going out so can obviously catch covid x"
Just find it strange that no one since the lockdown has died from cancer, heart attacks or natural causes.
Read a story that a woman died outright from a kick to the head by a horse. And they record her death as covid 19.
Seems something fishy going on to me that's all I'm saying |
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"Not everyone is shielding lockdown you all are still going out so can obviously catch covid x
Just find it strange that no one since the lockdown has died from cancer, heart attacks or natural causes.
Read a story that a woman died outright from a kick to the head by a horse. And they record her death as covid 19.
Seems something fishy going on to me that's all I'm saying "
Your correct they were noting all deaths as covid but that isn’t allowed now
The risk is real I just wish folk would take it seriously x |
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Well the way I see it, u can still risk catching it while out shopping or doing other essential things, so why not take the risk with having sex with your partner, this is forced celibacy, all is great if you live with your partner but the rest can suffer basically, well I won't listen to this bolloxs from the goverment |
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I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come |
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come"
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come"
And never mind the risk you pose to dr’s and nurses that you will expect to look after you who haven’t seen their family for months either shame on you |
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come
And never mind the risk you pose to dr’s and nurses that you will expect to look after you who haven’t seen their family for months either shame on you"
^^^this^^^
Yes life is short, but people are putting their own lives at risk for others during this pandemic. I work for the NHS and see so many really sick people.
I actually feel safer at work than shopping at the supermarket. I will continue to be as safe as I can be. No meets for me for quite some time probably  |
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"Got to be honest I wouldn't expect help, I'm quite high risk anyway so probably wouldn't make it due to my lung condition, so on that note I'd rather stay home in the comfort of my own home"
Rubbish if you couldn’t breath you’d want help shame there isn’t a system you could ‘vote out of care’ then makes me wonder if your as reckless in all aspects of life |
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come
And never mind the risk you pose to dr’s and nurses that you will expect to look after you who haven’t seen their family for months either shame on you
^^^this^^^
Yes life is short, but people are putting their own lives at risk for others during this pandemic. I work for the NHS and see so many really sick people.
I actually feel safer at work than shopping at the supermarket. I will continue to be as safe as I can be. No meets for me for quite some time probably "
Well done and continue fantastic work stay safe xxxxx |
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come
And never mind the risk you pose to dr’s and nurses that you will expect to look after you who haven’t seen their family for months either shame on you
^^^this^^^
Yes life is short, but people are putting their own lives at risk for others during this pandemic. I work for the NHS and see so many really sick people.
I actually feel safer at work than shopping at the supermarket. I will continue to be as safe as I can be. No meets for me for quite some time probably
Well done and continue fantastic work stay safe xxxxx"
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"Not everyone is shielding lockdown you all are still going out so can obviously catch covid x
Just find it strange that no one since the lockdown has died from cancer, heart attacks or natural causes.
Read a story that a woman died outright from a kick to the head by a horse. And they record her death as covid 19.
Seems something fishy going on to me that's all I'm saying "
Excactly this, it's seems every death since lockdown is covid, the figures are a load of cods wollop |
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"Not everyone is shielding lockdown you all are still going out so can obviously catch covid x
Just find it strange that no one since the lockdown has died from cancer, heart attacks or natural causes.
Read a story that a woman died outright from a kick to the head by a horse. And they record her death as covid 19.
Seems something fishy going on to me that's all I'm saying
Agreed the numbers are false but believe me the threat is real
Excactly this, it's seems every death since lockdown is covid, the figures are a load of cods wollop"
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"Not everyone is shielding lockdown you all are still going out so can obviously catch covid x
Just find it strange that no one since the lockdown has died from cancer, heart attacks or natural causes.
Read a story that a woman died outright from a kick to the head by a horse. And they record her death as covid 19.
Seems something fishy going on to me that's all I'm saying
Excactly this, it's seems every death since lockdown is covid, the figures are a load of cods wollop"
The problem with the death figures are that they are for people who died with Covid. That doesn't mean Covid was cause of death. And for those who had no known underlying health conditions, these are often discovered during post mortems which are now not routinely being carried out. In the grand scheme of things it is being very inaccurately reported and the figures can be very misleading. On the whole if you are under 70, not morbidly obese and have no known underlying health problems your chances of dying from the virus are miniscule. It is for every individual to make risk assesments and choices in life going forward the same as they would in any other day to day situation.
As the economy starts gradually reopening, everyone who feels unsafe or at a high risk will be able to continue to exercise their right to stay at home and shield for as long as they wish. The world can't hide forever, it was never the intention to lock everyone away until the virus disappeared, this is where some people are getting confused and sadly feel it's their right to abuse other people for wanting to return to some form of normality. A difference of opinion is fine but shouting others down for having a different view and approach to risk is not cool  |
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"the other crazy thing is not allowed to travel more than 5 miles from home but as i am working still i have traveled over 400 miles from home on a regular basis"
Good on you
I'll NOT be told by anyone what to do, well only my wife  |
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"I could also get hit by a bus next week, life is to short waiting, if my time is up then so be it, but I'd rather be taken enjoying myself than imprisoned, I've always said live for today as tomorrow may never come"
Good outlook |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
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The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories "
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’ |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’ "
The risk of dying if you are under 70 and "fit and healthy" is very small. That's not to say it can't kill someone in a low risk group, just that there is a very high chance it won't. The figures are widely and easilly available so maybe you have a different interpretation of the term miniscule. What it boils down to is different people have a different approach to risk, and everyone will react differently to that risk. If you feel the figures are too much of a risk for you to go out then don't go out. But don't bash people for viewing risk differently to you and wanting to get back to a form of normality. People should be trying to be a bit nicer to others not running them down just because they have a different outlook on life than yourself |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’
The risk of dying if you are under 70 and "fit and healthy" is very small. That's not to say it can't kill someone in a low risk group, just that there is a very high chance it won't. The figures are widely and easilly available so maybe you have a different interpretation of the term miniscule. What it boils down to is different people have a different approach to risk, and everyone will react differently to that risk. If you feel the figures are too much of a risk for you to go out then don't go out. But don't bash people for viewing risk differently to you and wanting to get back to a form of normality. People should be trying to be a bit nicer to others not running them down just because they have a different outlook on life than yourself "
You could be fined for meeting and rightly so it’s rather pathetic that folk are complaining they haven’t got their end away for a few weeks when there are nurses and doctors who haven’t seen their loved ones or feel a massive guilt in case they give it to a loved one I do feel sorry for folk who feel lonely their mental health is a huge concern but I do not or will not endorse meeting at this time and ‘fab’ I’m sure has the same view
Statistics are statistics we all know they are not the most reliable maybe folk working around this virus have a better understanding x |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’
The risk of dying if you are under 70 and "fit and healthy" is very small. That's not to say it can't kill someone in a low risk group, just that there is a very high chance it won't. The figures are widely and easilly available so maybe you have a different interpretation of the term miniscule. What it boils down to is different people have a different approach to risk, and everyone will react differently to that risk. If you feel the figures are too much of a risk for you to go out then don't go out. But don't bash people for viewing risk differently to you and wanting to get back to a form of normality. People should be trying to be a bit nicer to others not running them down just because they have a different outlook on life than yourself
You could be fined for meeting and rightly so it’s rather pathetic that folk are complaining they haven’t got their end away for a few weeks when there are nurses and doctors who haven’t seen their loved ones or feel a massive guilt in case they give it to a loved one I do feel sorry for folk who feel lonely their mental health is a huge concern but I do not or will not endorse meeting at this time and ‘fab’ I’m sure has the same view
Statistics are statistics we all know they are not the most reliable maybe folk working around this virus have a better understanding x"
Who is going to police people meeting other adults for sex in their own homes, let alone fine them for it? I no longer meet off Fab so Fab meets are not a concern to me but it is ok for a single person who lives alone to now meet another household in England so will probably be a matter of time before Wales follows suit.
"Rules" are pointless if they cannot be enforced. Do you really think the police are going to be interested in curtain twitchers wasting their time by ringing and saying so and so next door has got someone over?? Seriously?? |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’
The risk of dying if you are under 70 and "fit and healthy" is very small. That's not to say it can't kill someone in a low risk group, just that there is a very high chance it won't. The figures are widely and easilly available so maybe you have a different interpretation of the term miniscule. What it boils down to is different people have a different approach to risk, and everyone will react differently to that risk. If you feel the figures are too much of a risk for you to go out then don't go out. But don't bash people for viewing risk differently to you and wanting to get back to a form of normality. People should be trying to be a bit nicer to others not running them down just because they have a different outlook on life than yourself
You could be fined for meeting and rightly so it’s rather pathetic that folk are complaining they haven’t got their end away for a few weeks when there are nurses and doctors who haven’t seen their loved ones or feel a massive guilt in case they give it to a loved one I do feel sorry for folk who feel lonely their mental health is a huge concern but I do not or will not endorse meeting at this time and ‘fab’ I’m sure has the same view
Statistics are statistics we all know they are not the most reliable maybe folk working around this virus have a better understanding x
Who is going to police people meeting other adults for sex in their own homes, let alone fine them for it? I no longer meet off Fab so Fab meets are not a concern to me but it is ok for a single person who lives alone to now meet another household in England so will probably be a matter of time before Wales follows suit.
"Rules" are pointless if they cannot be enforced. Do you really think the police are going to be interested in curtain twitchers wasting their time by ringing and saying so and so next door has got someone over?? Seriously??"
Lol luckily I have no time to ‘twitch curtains’ or felt the need to but anyone on here offering to meet I’d report to fab
Meeting someone in the garden still keeping the distance rule is allowed having sex with other people is not it’s a simple rule if everyone had abided to it at the start this would of all been over alreadyx |
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I've been working from the office since day one which has been very confusing and misleading for me as although I work in what is considered an 'essential' sector why is that my every day life is not considered'essential'? I can work the majority of the time but thereafter I have to lockdown?! Strange if the situatio was considered so bad that the whole country went into lockdown.....apart from the areas where we kept the economy flowing.
I also know nurses and doctors who have broken rules and socialised outside of lockdown. Two nurses I know who are in a relationship together have been meeting regularly since day one, and work very closely with covid. Not saying it is right, I'm just highlighting that it's not as clear cut as people are suggesting.
A friend of mine was rushed into hospital with breathing difficulties and instantly diagnosed with covid only to find a week later this wasn't the case and he actually had a heart attack. If he would have died he would have fallen under the covid statistics.
I heard on the news very recently from the national statistics that although we have a great number of deaths this year compared to previous, it is not a huge number. He also suggested that the same deaths last year would have been classified different, basically saying that covid has been given to a large majority of deaths when in fact they likely weren't the cause.
Figures, stats and evidence clearly shows that covid is dangerous but it does have a certain demographic that it's most dangerous for. |
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"Incorrect fact that folk above 70 or underlying issues are the only deaths it is most certainly not minuscule for others to die and those who don’t die could still pass it on to someone who could
The word miniscule means 'very small'
If someone is under 70 with no underlying health conditions and not morbidly obese the chance of them dying from Covid IS miniscule (very small)
That's a fact.
Your response makes no sense in the context which you use the word. I'm not saying people outside these groups haven't died. Look at the figures....they're widely available online. You will then understand my "miniscule" comment in regard to the death rate for people who are not in the vulerable categories
I fully understand the word lol look in reality which many here don’t seem to get a grasp of yes there are less dying than the over 70 co morbidity group however folk should not get the false sense of security that it wouldn’t kill them that is reckless and I for one would report such activity
The deaths of under 70 without co morbiditys is certainly not ‘minuscule’ ‘small’
The risk of dying if you are under 70 and "fit and healthy" is very small. That's not to say it can't kill someone in a low risk group, just that there is a very high chance it won't. The figures are widely and easilly available so maybe you have a different interpretation of the term miniscule. What it boils down to is different people have a different approach to risk, and everyone will react differently to that risk. If you feel the figures are too much of a risk for you to go out then don't go out. But don't bash people for viewing risk differently to you and wanting to get back to a form of normality. People should be trying to be a bit nicer to others not running them down just because they have a different outlook on life than yourself
You could be fined for meeting and rightly so it’s rather pathetic that folk are complaining they haven’t got their end away for a few weeks when there are nurses and doctors who haven’t seen their loved ones or feel a massive guilt in case they give it to a loved one I do feel sorry for folk who feel lonely their mental health is a huge concern but I do not or will not endorse meeting at this time and ‘fab’ I’m sure has the same view
Statistics are statistics we all know they are not the most reliable maybe folk working around this virus have a better understanding x
Who is going to police people meeting other adults for sex in their own homes, let alone fine them for it? I no longer meet off Fab so Fab meets are not a concern to me but it is ok for a single person who lives alone to now meet another household in England so will probably be a matter of time before Wales follows suit.
"Rules" are pointless if they cannot be enforced. Do you really think the police are going to be interested in curtain twitchers wasting their time by ringing and saying so and so next door has got someone over?? Seriously??
Lol luckily I have no time to ‘twitch curtains’ or felt the need to but anyone on here offering to meet I’d report to fab
Meeting someone in the garden still keeping the distance rule is allowed having sex with other people is not it’s a simple rule if everyone had abided to it at the start this would of all been over alreadyx"
What about the people who have continued to work? To exercise? Dog walk? Shop? Etc etc.....my point is that to completely eradicate any virus you would need for everyone to be in their own isolated bubbles |
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Look it’s not rocket science obviously key workers need to work but have to adhere to rules too
Social distance
Do not meet in groups
Be clean
If New Zealand could do it why couldn’t we?
Maybe too many people thinking that they know best |
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I'm a nurse and have adhered to the rules. As much for myself as for others. Plus I also come under the BAME population too. As I don't have any underlying health issues I am classed as low risk. So able to work but have stay away from confirmed covid positive patients. The problem is though that in our place of work, everyone is either suspected or confirmed covid. Hence why precautions are in place |
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"Look it’s not rocket science obviously key workers need to work but have to adhere to rules too
Social distance
Do not meet in groups
Be clean
If New Zealand could do it why couldn’t we?
Maybe too many people thinking that they know best "
My point proven. Stricter measures prove to work. Allowing people to judge for themselves as such as to whether they can continue to work did not help at all. I would not say that I am considered a key worker but my business stayed open so therefore I had to work. In truth I would have preferred it that way anyway but that's not the case.
Also new Zealand has a population of 5 million, far less than our own. They also tested at a much higher rate which gave a clearer indication of who actually has the virus which in turn gives a more accurate reflection of the true numbers unlike us who failed to really test until to late and threw covid at everyone with a cough.
You also have to look at new Zealand itself. It's a wealthy nation with its population spread out. They also had a lot more to work with in that it was later than most with its first case so they had seen other strategies and could build on that. Even experts suggest that the strategy they imposed will be very difficult to replicate elsewhere.
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"Look it’s not rocket science obviously key workers need to work but have to adhere to rules too
Social distance
Do not meet in groups
Be clean
If New Zealand could do it why couldn’t we?
Maybe too many people thinking that they know best
My point proven. Stricter measures prove to work. Allowing people to judge for themselves as such as to whether they can continue to work did not help at all. I would not say that I am considered a key worker but my business stayed open so therefore I had to work. In truth I would have preferred it that way anyway but that's not the case.
Also new Zealand has a population of 5 million, far less than our own. They also tested at a much higher rate which gave a clearer indication of who actually has the virus which in turn gives a more accurate reflection of the true numbers unlike us who failed to really test until to late and threw covid at everyone with a cough.
You also have to look at new Zealand itself. It's a wealthy nation with its population spread out. They also had a lot more to work with in that it was later than most with its first case so they had seen other strategies and could build on that. Even experts suggest that the strategy they imposed will be very difficult to replicate elsewhere.
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Our government certainly didn’t act quick enough other countries are smaller or equal size to New Zealand and still had more deaths
Just proves that good leadership ends in better results |
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"I'm a nurse and have adhered to the rules. As much for myself as for others. Plus I also come under the BAME population too. As I don't have any underlying health issues I am classed as low risk. So able to work but have stay away from confirmed covid positive patients. The problem is though that in our place of work, everyone is either suspected or confirmed covid. Hence why precautions are in place "
Yes and we thank you for your work and stay safe x |
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"Look it’s not rocket science obviously key workers need to work but have to adhere to rules too
Social distance
Do not meet in groups
Be clean
If New Zealand could do it why couldn’t we?
Maybe too many people thinking that they know best
My point proven. Stricter measures prove to work. Allowing people to judge for themselves as such as to whether they can continue to work did not help at all. I would not say that I am considered a key worker but my business stayed open so therefore I had to work. In truth I would have preferred it that way anyway but that's not the case.
Also new Zealand has a population of 5 million, far less than our own. They also tested at a much higher rate which gave a clearer indication of who actually has the virus which in turn gives a more accurate reflection of the true numbers unlike us who failed to really test until to late and threw covid at everyone with a cough.
You also have to look at new Zealand itself. It's a wealthy nation with its population spread out. They also had a lot more to work with in that it was later than most with its first case so they had seen other strategies and could build on that. Even experts suggest that the strategy they imposed will be very difficult to replicate elsewhere.
Our government certainly didn’t act quick enough other countries are smaller or equal size to New Zealand and still had more deaths
Just proves that good leadership ends in better results "
I totally agree.
They also have had more cases recorded today |
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