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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way. |
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By *assy211279Woman
over a year ago
middle of nowhere Cornwall |
Well the map shows the trouble and we here in Cornwall only have affected people. From out of county. The few locals all crossed paths with those out of country ones. If they had stopped all travel from airports immediately the rest of the country would be safe. |
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By *assy211279Woman
over a year ago
middle of nowhere Cornwall |
"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way. "
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there "
I don't know about emanating from London but it is perfectly natural for densely populated areas to have the highest infection rate. |
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By *ky19Man
over a year ago
Plymouth OYO Hotel |
I really think the Mayor does need to increase trains so as to dilute the number of people on each. But he said they're short of drivers because they're off.
[And coming later, Tony Bliar weighs in as expected; CEOs stepping down over the world just before this kicked off; Event 201, the globalist-run simulation in late 2019 of a Corona virus pandemic ; and elderly hospital patients being labeled "Do Not Resuscitate" as they're cut off from their families for the last time. Stay tuned] |
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By *assy211279Woman
over a year ago
middle of nowhere Cornwall |
"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland "
You should close the border to all other countries. Keep the people out till all gone from the rest of the world. Hope you all keep safe in your beautiful country |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there "
It's not possible to close every entry point into the capital for many practical reasons.
There is no evidence that the infection is spreading from an epicentre and it's to be expected that the most populated area (by number and density) would have the most cases. |
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there "
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
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"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way.
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk"
From Exeter, Plymouth etc?
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
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I think the commuting has been a part of the issue. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
I think the commuting has been a part of the issue. "
Yes, our transport network has been mismanaged by TFL and Sadiq Khan. |
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
I think the commuting has been a part of the issue. "
There's been several elements that with hindsight hopefully lessons might be learned from..
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
I think the commuting has been a part of the issue.
Yes, our transport network has been mismanaged by TFL and Sadiq Khan."
...& Boris before! Birmingham is also proving to be a hotspot. No point being xenophobic really, this virus will affect everywhere, the current measures are to slow the impact, allowing the health services to respond. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Many of the public sector in the capital, NHS, police and fire donor live outside of London as they can't afford to own or rent there and have to commute..
That also applies to other workers..
Horse has long bolted..
I think the commuting has been a part of the issue.
There's been several elements that with hindsight hopefully lessons might be learned from..
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Absolutely. |
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The first case up north was someone who came back from Spain I believe so stop blaming London for the spread of Covid-19. Remember the majority of cases in most cities, towns and villages came from individuals who had been abroad. |
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"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way.
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk"
I think you'll find that it was Cornish school children returning from Italy that brought the first Corona scare to Cornwall... You think no Cornish person has left the county and returned during the outbreak? I was talking to a Cornish man in Indonesia in mid January, maybe it was him that brought it back... Are you blaming it it on Chinese 'city folk' or British 'city folk'?
The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks... |
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"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way.
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk
From Exeter, Plymouth etc?
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I think she must mean Truro, it's the only city anywhere near...  |
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"The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks... "
It is to be hoped you are incorrect in you forecast.....time will tell. |
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"The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks...
It is to be hoped you are incorrect in you forecast.....time will tell. "
Well Italy was 2-3 weeks ahead of us with it's initial Corona case discovery and infection rate, our the government delayed the lockdown until 2-3 weeks after Italy did, so effectively at the same point.
If we look at the official infection stats ours has followed Italy's very closely showing similar infection rates and deaths... The curve when plotted onto a graph is scarily similar... Given that the majority who become ill over the next few weeks will currently be incubating the virus and already be infected and isolating, the numbers will continue to rise until the length of the lockdown exceeds the length of the incubation period of the virus, the rate of new infections should start to drop steeply in 2-3 weeks after the majority of people have isolated. We then have to continue isolating until it has cleared up amongst all the essential workers who are out there keeping the rest of us going... The people keeping the lights on for us, the heating and water, the food to our tables, the amazon packages to our doorsteps and last but not least the emergency services who are putting themselves directly in the firing line...
As for the 2-3 week delay in getting these workers PPE and sufficient tests... another massive failure by the government who wanted to try the herd immunity method... |
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By *ippy2 OP Man
over a year ago
leicestershire |
"The first case up north was someone who came back from Spain I believe so stop blaming London for the spread of Covid-19. Remember the majority of cases in most cities, towns and villages came from individuals who had been abroad. "
Via London airport? |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks...
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We won't. Direct country to country comparisons are usually very inaccurate. |
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"The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks...
We won't. Direct country to country comparisons are usually very inaccurate. "
We're slightly, very slightly lower than Italy, our cases are doubling every 3 days, like Italy. Our slightly lower rate could create quite a difference due to the way the virus spreads exponentially, You do have to take into consideration the fact our testing rates are poor and that there are probably more undiagnosed cases than diagnosed cases already.
Hearsay from a nurse friend who was in critical care on Sunday was 6 deaths, 3 were officially classed as Corona, no swabs or tests done on the other 3...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/coronavirus-how-do-italy-and-the-uk-compare
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52056111 |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
Pretty obvious the London underground, airports, main city squares, attractions and bars - should have been closed weeks ago. why the same rules have to apply to a small town or village is nonsense |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"Pretty obvious the London underground, airports, main city squares, attractions and bars - should have been closed weeks ago. why the same rules have to apply to a small town or village is nonsense "
It's not possible to close transport links, too many key workers rely on them. |
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"The first case up north was someone who came back from Spain I believe so stop blaming London for the spread of Covid-19. Remember the majority of cases in most cities, towns and villages came from individuals who had been abroad.
Via London airport? "
Via any and every airport. The problem is not with any one means of entry to the country but with the whole concept of casual travel around the globe for non-essential purposes. I suggest that when this is over long distance travel should be restricted to business purposes only, with mandatory 14 day quarantine included in every trans-continental journey. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have just returned from a London supermarket and people are not giving one fuck about the 2 metre rule. I was furious. "
I saw a video this morning of a high street in east london.
Hundreds of people on the street no sign of social distancing at all.
Some people just are not listening. |
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"Pretty obvious the London underground, airports, main city squares, attractions and bars - should have been closed weeks ago. why the same rules have to apply to a small town or village is nonsense "
Because people from small towns and villages also go through Heathrow and jump on a plane for business and holidays... |
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"The first case up north was someone who came back from Spain I believe so stop blaming London for the spread of Covid-19. Remember the majority of cases in most cities, towns and villages came from individuals who had been abroad.
Via London airport?
Via any and every airport. The problem is not with any one means of entry to the country but with the whole concept of casual travel around the globe for non-essential purposes. I suggest that when this is over long distance travel should be restricted to business purposes only, with mandatory 14 day quarantine included in every trans-continental journey."
I think post this the casual hop on a low cost carrier for a weekend away etc may be a different proposition..
The effects on open borders in the Eu could also be an issue as with visitors visas having a up to date medical certificate, not sure how much travel insurance may go up either..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A lot of people will be out today not giving a shit a it’s the 1st of the month and they all got paid simples"
Probably all from London - everybody elsewhere in the country will very responsibly adhere to the advice given by the government and won’t put anybody at risk - all the people flocking to natural beauty sites/seaside etc in the pictures/videos recently were obviously anarchic Londoners who then dissipated around the country utilising then underground routes set up by the “London Underground” to complete their mission of infecting the rest of the country so that the god state of “Greater London” can reign supreme !
Perhaps mobilisation if the 3rd Regiment of Yorkshire “Ecky Thumps own” dragoon’s could be enacted to keep the devilish southerners at bay ? |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
As a Londoner lets me share my thoughts
1) if organisations can work from home they will / have. I have been self isolating for 3 weeks friday - with my company as a whole 3 weeks next Monday
2) 1/10 of the official population lives in London, with probably more in flats and house that is unofficial. London probably should have been shut the week before but it wasn’t as the general country wide guidance was in force
3) people are saying shut the tube etc. Tube journeys at 90% less than normal. Those 10% is probably key workers and shitty companies that are working.
4) i would say there are still people ignoring social isolating but people are trying. I live on a main road and the bus journeys which would normally be full are virtually empty with one or two people on
London is and always will be a different kettle of fish.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived...."
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland "
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
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Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there "
Whilst London does appear to be worst hit, there are cases all over the country, so a country wide lockdown is only way. Locking down specific cities and areas didn't solve the problem in Italy... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
Whilst London does appear to be worst hit, there are cases all over the country, so a country wide lockdown is only way. Locking down specific cities and areas didn't solve the problem in Italy..."
Here here, lockdown the airports let no one in or out |
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"Why haven’t they locked down London as it seems to be spreading from there
I don't know about emanating from London but it is perfectly natural for densely populated areas to have the highest infection rate. "
Hence why the 3 nightingale hospitals are being built in London, Birmingham and Manchester.
As someone who lives in London I was always expecting it to have the highest numbers, purely because this was circulating way before any lockdown took place. Thousands of people pass through it everyday, whether that be for work, leisure or tourism.
Most that work in central London don’t actually live here and commuted every day back to the Home Counties or further afield.
It is what it is, we just have to deal with it |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more "
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more "
Missed the “tongue in cheek” bit then ?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks. "
Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland |
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It could be possible to use technology to control the movement of people..
Google maps and such platforms could give human traffic maps as most people's phones track their movement around cities.
Add to that a route planner whereby you plan your journey in advance thereby numbers of people could be limited to manageable numbers and prevent peak crowding. |
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more "
You can class yourself as whatever you like but it's the UK exchequer who is funding the nhs and the financial measures set in place at this time in Northern Ireland..
There really is no need for sectarianism and further division at this time..
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks.
Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland "
What you're talking about just isn't feasible or legal. When you say Irish border, you're actually referring to the Island of Ireland, which as you know is has 2 separate jurisdictions. Then there's the small matter of the CTA
If brexit hadn't happened then both the UK and Ireland could have temporarily joined Schengen, which would have enabled a full shutdown of Europe's external borders, but Brexit and the CTA stops that.
But carry on with your xenophobic magic sky thinking, I suppose you're not hurting anyone in your own wee bubble. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way.
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk"
It took 4 local people to die before it followed? People brought from Cornwall brought it home with them from their choice of holiday? The first 3 cases had all been skiing in Italy? |
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks.
Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland "
Last month vast numbers of Irish visited Cheltenham Races - very risky perhaps ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland
Last month vast numbers of Irish visited Cheltenham Races - very risky perhaps ?
Perhaps? Only an idiot wouldn’t see that it was very risky. Have you a point here? |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks.
Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland Last month vast numbers of Irish visited Cheltenham Races - very risky perhaps ? "
That really showed how stupid and selfish people can be. Ireland had already stopped practically all major sporting events both north and south. All St Patrick's day celebrations had been cancelled by then, but there was no shortage of public criticism for people that traveled to cheltenham.
If you look at the physical distribution of CV19 cases, it broadly correlates with population density, London Dublin, Belfast all have higher numbers of cases relative to surrounding areas. I don't think a ring of steel is the solution. not now anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks.
Do you believe we should keep the Irish borders open? What I’m saying makes sense, hard enough looking after our own never mind more infected people flying into Ireland
What you're talking about just isn't feasible or legal. When you say Irish border, you're actually referring to the Island of Ireland, which as you know is has 2 separate jurisdictions. Then there's the small matter of the CTA
If brexit hadn't happened then both the UK and Ireland could have temporarily joined Schengen, which would have enabled a full shutdown of Europe's external borders, but Brexit and the CTA stops that.
But carry on with your xenophobic magic sky thinking, I suppose you're not hurting anyone in your own wee bubble."
This has absolutely nothing to do with the CTA or brexit absolutely nothing. Xenophobia has nothing to do with my views on closing our borders more to do with keeping the people of Ireland safe. Go you ahead and welcome everyone in with open arms just to keep your right wing ideology at peace. Ireland both north and south are now working together on a daily basis trying to beat this damn thing but hey mention brexit that’ll help |
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Xenophobia is not going to help the situation. It is all very well calling for borders to be closed - but ponder on this - just say that Ireland (as an Island in its entirety) , locks itself off from the rest of the world (because that’s the only way to do what you suggest , this thing isn’t just a “British” issue). Then a viable cure/vaccine is developed elsewhere - would you still insist on remaining isolated as an island , or world the blockade come down quicker than a £5 hooker’s knickers ? Or, if treatments were developed in NI, or the Republic, would they be denied to the rest of the world ?
This sort of thing never ends well. Right now the last thing that’s needed is to try to point fingers of blame at anybody. Yes everybody is scared , the world is being assailed by something which can’t be seen, which is being dealt with very much by trial and error, and which is totally indiscriminate in nature - it can effect people irrespective of their nationality, gender, race , sexuality , religious beliefs et al. Look at where such finger pointing and assessment of blame has got humanity in the past - the persecution and mass murder in Nazi occupied territories in WW2, genocide in Balkan countries following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and indeed sectarian violence and murder in NI.
What is REALLY needed is for people to actually try to put aside the ingrained “whats in it for me” mentality , and think of the bigger picture. There is finally a common “enemy” facing EVERY human on this planet. It gives us, as a supposed intelligent species , the opportunity get our heads out of our collective arsed to work TOGETHER to fight it - because that IS what is needed - not just the virus itself - but the inevitable social and economic changes that may well come around as a result of the actions that have been/may be taken. Or we can ignore the lessons of history , bury our heads in the sand , blame our troubles on everybody else in order to avoid having to take a long hard look in the mirror - and then possibly suffer an even more drastic change (probably for the worse) of life as we know it.
Will finish by saying it is our genuine and heartfelt hope that you all stay safe
Big Love all x |
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Jeez.. is the Ireland debate still going on.. ffs, haven't you noticed there is a worldwide pandemic..
It doesn't give a toss about borders or if you are green or orange, all it cares about is reproducing at your expense...
So really, it's a lot like those people that appeared on Jeremy kyle... |
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"Jeez.. is the Ireland debate still going on.. ffs, haven't you noticed there is a worldwide pandemic..
It doesn't give a toss about borders or if you are green or orange, all it cares about is reproducing at your expense.... "
Yeah I thought this thread was about London !
Anyway if people are staying close to home then no one is gonna be crossing any border apart from key workers who work on either side |
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"Yes they should have locked it down. Too many didn’t pay any attention to the guidance and they are seeing the results of that now. I’m hopeful that the tide will turn over the couple of weeks. It’s tragic either way.
Cornwall was following advice from the start now our farming and fishing industry is in big danger again. Because of city folk
I think you'll find that it was Cornish school children returning from Italy that brought the first Corona scare to Cornwall... You think no Cornish person has left the county and returned during the outbreak? I was talking to a Cornish man in Indonesia in mid January, maybe it was him that brought it back... Are you blaming it it on Chinese 'city folk' or British 'city folk'?
The government left the lockdown 2-3 weeks too long, now we're going to have similar figures to Italy and Spain are now in a few weeks... "
Our discovered cases number doesn't mean shit. It's like dipping a ladle into a cauldron of soup and saying "Well, there's at least this ladel-full in there.."
As for our death rate, I'm afraid when I apply my formula it tells me it will be higher than that of Spain's current one of 9,126 in one week's time from now, never mind a few weeks, sadly. 
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more "
Majority of residents in northern Ireland are nationalists me arse 
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Fuck me, could you not use this pandemic for political capital, please and thanks. "
Now you see what the "normal" people in northern Ireland have to put up with
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"Close the Irish borders, don’t let any infected brits into Ireland
Not sure if you noticed but it has already arrived....
Yes I’ve noticed indeed bit hard not too. As I say close the Irish borders and limit the spread, it’s not difficult to understand. No more brits in Ireland
Your profile says you’re in Northern Ireland? Don’t know how to break this to you , but residents of Northern Ireland are “Brits” as well. Are you sure your neighbours will be happy that you’re volunteering for you all to move out ?
Not volunteering we all move out for two reasons
1 majority of residents in North of Ireland are Nationalist so don’t class themselves as brits
2 clearly meant stopping brits coming into Ireland as my close the border statement suggested.
You concern yourself with whats happening on your own island heaven knows you have enough bother without looking more
Majority of residents in northern Ireland are nationalists me arse
Let's hope you don't need the help of the Brit funded NHS"
I do hope so, if I do I’ll gladly avail of their services as I’m a tax payer, a lot like me claiming an 80% wage as I’m entitled to do. Unionists lost their majority in last election don’t you know times are changing |
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