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A cat in Belgium has developed the viral infection from its owner who had it. It's suggested to keep contact with animals to a minimum, although the chances appear low.
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over a year ago
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My cat does have a corona virus. We found out when a kitten we had died from FIP. But 60% of cats have corona virus and 95% of cats in multicat households. |
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over a year ago
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"Where do these reports keep coming from. Many pets have a type of coronavirus but not covid 19. "
Agreed there has always been these virus as long as we have walked this planet. We have had many corona virus each during our lifetimes. They all aren’t going to kill you. |
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"https://g.co/kgs/uDxLhH
here’s a link. Within site rules. "
That is not saying you can catch it from your cat. Its saying that cats can get a coronavirus..not new news... same as people have been suffering from forms of coronavirus for decades.. common cold etc ....
It's silly misinformation like this that will lead to pets being thrown out on the streets or worse |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's grand, tell the Belgian cat that."
The one with a coronavirus? Cats and dogs have always has coronavirus. There is no evidence of the cat having covid19. |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's grand, tell the Belgian cat that. it doesnt have covid 19.... there is so much fake news about."
Yes it does, it belongs to my colleagues cousin |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's grand, tell the Belgian cat that. it doesnt have covid 19.... there is so much fake news about.
Yes it does, it belongs to my colleagues cousin" it hasnt jumped to cats |
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Yes naming isn’t helping - coronavirus is something that’s been here for millions of years, most of you will have had a version of it maybe every year. Covid 19 is one particular strain of it, which happens to be a bit of bugger.
Cats, dogs and other animals all have various versions of it also. But actually it’s Bats and snakes this came from - but before you kill them off, it’s down to fact we destroying their environments and stress them, by hunting them and keeping them in cages in open markets in China(along with MERS another strain) which was down to I’ll treatment and stress of animals in Middle East. If we left them alone they’d still have it but their immune systems would have prevented it “leaking” out to humans. The said bats and snakes in china are sold for hocus pocus medicine and as delegacies....
So simply the reason we have this issue is......human behaviour, greed and selfishness. |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's grand, tell the Belgian cat that. it doesnt have covid 19.... there is so much fake news about.
Yes it does, it belongs to my colleagues cousin it hasnt jumped to cats"
You're right it didn't jump |
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So a bat is the likely origin, harbourer of said virus which we are led to believe. Cats, dogs, hedhogs and even horses,cows and whales are part the same family.
So we have rabies, equine flu, FMD and whatever whales are getting to cause them to beach. Now Novel Covid19 an unknown. They all seem to have common traites, flu symptoms.
Different animals, different deseases same results to varying degree and varying survival rate depending on how quick they are nailed. Speed of action test and isolation seem to be the first thing to do in all cases.
Conclusion get your animals tested too you can't be too careful. |
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Thing is its false stories like this and the one about the dog that will cause people to act badly towards pets.. in china I think it was.. because there was the report that a dog had caught it ... thousands or animals were killed ... and the dog didn't even have the virus.. |
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"Thing is its false stories like this and the one about the dog that will cause people to act badly towards pets.. in china I think it was.. because there was the report that a dog had caught it ... thousands or animals were killed ... and the dog didn't even have the virus.. "
They do that with badgers here |
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Ive now read all the reports. The virologist states the cat has " a coronavirus infection " he does not state its covid 19.
All the reports then go on about it. And how its the 3rd animal to have contracted it from humans. But again in one case the dog had a coronavirus.. and the other case the dog had ecological contamination in its nasal passage and mouth but didnt have thr virus. It died after being returned to its owner.. it was 17 and probably had 2 months of hell |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" People should check stuff before they post. This is such rubbish. This sort of scaremongering leads to animals being needlessly killed. There are different types of coronavirus. "
Yup, animals are being dumped at shelters and worse. |
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This is not just a scare story though.
Facts are facts- so if a lady who has got a cat who loves cats and does anything for that cat does Google she will find that it does have it.
And she would be worried naturally. |
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Well I am not sure if it's true but did HIV exist in monkeys before humans and there was a theory that it jumped to humans probably because a human had sex with one. I am not advocating those actions by the way .. |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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" People should check stuff before they post. This is such rubbish. This sort of scaremongering leads to animals being needlessly killed. There are different types of coronavirus. "
Also if my cat comes to any harm because of people spreading fake news.... |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" People should check stuff before they post. This is such rubbish. This sort of scaremongering leads to animals being needlessly killed. There are different types of coronavirus.
Also if my cat comes to any harm because of people spreading fake news.... "
Exactly. One of mine is currently missing, I'm worried sick about her. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"This is not just a scare story though.
Facts are facts- so if a lady who has got a cat who loves cats and does anything for that cat does Google she will find that it does have it.
And she would be worried naturally."
It's misinformation at best leading to scaremongering. |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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So this link is independently verified:
https://fullfact.org/online/pets-coronavirus-facebook/
If link not allowed, then I respectfully request the whole thread be closed instead. |
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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
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" People should check stuff before they post. This is such rubbish. This sort of scaremongering leads to animals being needlessly killed. There are different types of coronavirus.
Also if my cat comes to any harm because of people spreading fake news....
Exactly. One of mine is currently missing, I'm worried sick about her. "
Aww I hope she comes back soon. A lot of cats have become a bit confused by all this. They pick up on the way we are behaving. My boss had two cats she had never seen before wander into her house the other day. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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" People should check stuff before they post. This is such rubbish. This sort of scaremongering leads to animals being needlessly killed. There are different types of coronavirus.
Also if my cat comes to any harm because of people spreading fake news....
Exactly. One of mine is currently missing, I'm worried sick about her.
Aww I hope she comes back soon. A lot of cats have become a bit confused by all this. They pick up on the way we are behaving. My boss had two cats she had never seen before wander into her house the other day. "
This will be the 3rd day she's been missing, only normally a day or 2 at most |
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"This is not just a scare story though.
Facts are facts- so if a lady who has got a cat who loves cats and does anything for that cat does Google she will find that it does have it.
And she would be worried naturally.
It's misinformation at best leading to scaremongering. " as I say it's bad journalism and scaremongering |
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"My cat does have a corona virus. We found out when a kitten we had died from FIP. But 60% of cats have corona virus and 95% of cats in multicat households. "
I think we need to draw a distinction between a corona type virus (such as the common cold) and the corona virus (as in corona-SAR-2) which is the one that causes Corvid-19.
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"My cat does have a corona virus. We found out when a kitten we had died from FIP. But 60% of cats have corona virus and 95% of cats in multicat households.
I think we need to draw a distinction between a corona type virus (such as the common cold) and the corona virus (as in corona-SAR-2) which is the one that causes Corvid-19.
" yup.. well we dont but the journalists posting such clap trap do x |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19. "
That's not completely true. There have been a number of cases reported from Hong Kong where pets have been discovered to have the antibodies for corona-SAR-2, which is the specific corona virus that causes Corvid-19 in humans. However it seems quite rare and, so far, no one is known to have caught Corvid-19 from a bet animal. That being said, it's probably a good idea to follow the washing hands protocol after spending time with your bet, especially if you've been outdoors with it as, even if it's not infected (and it's unlikely to be) it is still possible to pick up the virus from cross contamination (someone with Corvid-19 strokes their dog then walks it at the same time you are walking your dock, the dogs mingle, you go home and stroke your dog then scratch your face).
It's probably also a good idea not to let your dog lick your face too. |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's not completely true. There have been a number of cases reported from Hong Kong where pets have been discovered to have the antibodies for corona-SAR-2, which is the specific corona virus that causes Corvid-19 in humans. However it seems quite rare and, so far, no one is known to have caught Corvid-19 from a bet animal. That being said, it's probably a good idea to follow the washing hands protocol after spending time with your bet, especially if you've been outdoors with it as, even if it's not infected (and it's unlikely to be) it is still possible to pick up the virus from cross contamination (someone with Corvid-19 strokes their dog then walks it at the same time you are walking your dock, the dogs mingle, you go home and stroke your dog then scratch your face).
It's probably also a good idea not to let your dog lick your face too." the dogs diagnosis was not proved..
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-first-case-human-to-dog-transmission.html you have to read thr whole report but basically it says that there was a lot of doubt and the dog actually tested negative for the virus when done properly.
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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There are lots of Corona viruses that affect animals and have never mutated to infect us and vice versa.To have jumped from bats to us and then to dogs in such a short time would be very unusual |
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"Covid19 is one of many coronavirus. Cats and dogs cannot get covid19.
That's not completely true. There have been a number of cases reported from Hong Kong where pets have been discovered to have the antibodies for corona-SAR-2, which is the specific corona virus that causes Corvid-19 in humans. However it seems quite rare and, so far, no one is known to have caught Corvid-19 from a bet animal. That being said, it's probably a good idea to follow the washing hands protocol after spending time with your bet, especially if you've been outdoors with it as, even if it's not infected (and it's unlikely to be) it is still possible to pick up the virus from cross contamination (someone with Corvid-19 strokes their dog then walks it at the same time you are walking your dock, the dogs mingle, you go home and stroke your dog then scratch your face).
It's probably also a good idea not to let your dog lick your face too. the dogs diagnosis was not proved..
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-first-case-human-to-dog-transmission.html you have to read thr whole report but basically it says that there was a lot of doubt and the dog actually tested negative for the virus when done properly.
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I think the main point is that, whether dogs, cats or other pets can actually be infected by corona-SAR-2 is irrelevant if you take the hygiene advice on washing your hands. Your far more likely to get corvid-19 from a contaminated surface (and all animals have a surface) than you are to be directly infected by a person or animal.
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"There are lots of Corona viruses that affect animals and have never mutated to infect us and vice versa.To have jumped from bats to us and then to dogs in such a short time would be very unusual "
Well that's true but it's not believed to have jumped directly from bats to humans. It's actually believed that it jumped from bats to another, as yet unidentified species, and then to humans. Which means it's already jumped twice in a very short time. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it jumping again in a shorter time than would normally be expected.
That being said there is currently no evidence that anyone has been infected directly from any pet animals and only very week and unreliable evidence that any pet animal has been infected at all.
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Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur. "
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this. |
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this. "
Yep. All our 6 fantastic furry pals are all doing well, in fact they all loving the attention and 24/7 company. No virus spreading from our healthy moggies. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this.
Yep. All our 6 fantastic furry pals are all doing well, in fact they all loving the attention and 24/7 company. No virus spreading from our healthy moggies. " animals are now being dumped at shelters and worse because of scaremongering and stupid hearsay with no facts to ba k things up. People need to take more care when publicly posting stuff. |
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"My cat does have a corona virus. We found out when a kitten we had died from FIP. But 60% of cats have corona virus and 95% of cats in multicat households. "
This. It's common in cats, no big deal. |
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this.
Yep. All our 6 fantastic furry pals are all doing well, in fact they all loving the attention and 24/7 company. No virus spreading from our healthy moggies. animals are now being dumped at shelters and worse because of scaremongering and stupid hearsay with no facts to ba k things up. People need to take more care when publicly posting stuff. " this.. Its very irresponsible .. seeing posts about it all on farcebook ... |
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I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses |
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this. "
Covid-19 is the disorder caused in humans by the corona-SAR-2 virus. If the virus did infect a different species it would not cause Covid-19. It might cause another disease with similar or totally different symptoms or it might not cause ant disease at all.
Whilst that is fact the possibility of this infection spreading from pets to humans or humans to pets is unlikely.
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this.
Yep. All our 6 fantastic furry pals are all doing well, in fact they all loving the attention and 24/7 company. No virus spreading from our healthy moggies. animals are now being dumped at shelters and worse because of scaremongering and stupid hearsay with no facts to ba k things up. People need to take more care when publicly posting stuff. this.. Its very irresponsible .. seeing posts about it all on farcebook ..."
Yes, and one of mine is currently missing, worried sick about her. |
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"Virologist Steven van Gucht reported that the tests showed that the virus had passed from the cat's owner to the cat.
Many different types of corona viruses exist, as people here state. The common cold is one that we've all had and different species have their own.
As this is just one instance, it appears very unlikely to occur.
Funny, I've got 5 cats, not one of them showing any symptoms. I'm sure other cat owners will back me up on this.
Yep. All our 6 fantastic furry pals are all doing well, in fact they all loving the attention and 24/7 company. No virus spreading from our healthy moggies. animals are now being dumped at shelters and worse because of scaremongering and stupid hearsay with no facts to ba k things up. People need to take more care when publicly posting stuff. "
Some people just enjoy spreading bullshit and misery. Facts and consequences don’t enter their mind because they are narcissistic. It’s all about being the centre of attention.
Two cats here are fine and healthy and said they are astonished that humans appear to be so dumb and ignorant despite all the information at their fingertips. |
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses "
It hasn't come directly from bats. None of the corona viruses bats have is corona-SAR-2. It is closely related to a particular corona virus that a particular species of bat is often infected with. However it's not closely enough related for it to be likely that it reached humans in one species jump from bats. It actually thought that there must be a third mammal species involved between the bat species and humans. So far that third species involved in the jump has not been identified.
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses
It hasn't come directly from bats. None of the corona viruses bats have is corona-SAR-2. It is closely related to a particular corona virus that a particular species of bat is often infected with. However it's not closely enough related for it to be likely that it reached humans in one species jump from bats. It actually thought that there must be a third mammal species involved between the bat species and humans. So far that third species involved in the jump has not been identified.
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I’d seen that it was thought to be a Pangolin. Whatever that is. |
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses "
Be aware they wouldn’t normally spread it to us or a third chain - it’s simply the fact that we caged and stressed them and kept them in large numbers with other animals in rubbish conditions surrounded by people. Left where they were even if you was in the forest or cave you’d never have had it. It’s greed, stupidity and materialistic behaviour by humans - specifically in certain parts of the world that are responsible for both this one and previous ones before. This isn’t some vegan crap, they kill and treat these purely for silly reasons not because they a staple food source. Now we paying the price - and it won’t be the last one unless these countries change their ways - that said these countries equally killing the planet in many other ways also. |
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses
Be aware they wouldn’t normally spread it to us or a third chain - it’s simply the fact that we caged and stressed them and kept them in large numbers with other animals in rubbish conditions surrounded by people. Left where they were even if you was in the forest or cave you’d never have had it. It’s greed, stupidity and materialistic behaviour by humans - specifically in certain parts of the world that are responsible for both this one and previous ones before. This isn’t some vegan crap, they kill and treat these purely for silly reasons not because they a staple food source. Now we paying the price - and it won’t be the last one unless these countries change their ways - that said these countries equally killing the planet in many other ways also."
What do the Chinese actually do with bats? Eat them or use them in medicine ? |
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses
It hasn't come directly from bats. None of the corona viruses bats have is corona-SAR-2. It is closely related to a particular corona virus that a particular species of bat is often infected with. However it's not closely enough related for it to be likely that it reached humans in one species jump from bats. It actually thought that there must be a third mammal species involved between the bat species and humans. So far that third species involved in the jump has not been identified.
I’d seen that it was thought to be a Pangolin. Whatever that is. "
It was thought that it might be pangolins (a creature that looks like something in between an armadillo and an anteater) but so far the only corona viruses they've found in pangolins are further removed genetically from the bat's virus than corona-SAR-2 is.
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"I wonder how the bats spread it.. do you think it's in their droppings ? I have seen cockroaches on TV programmes feasting on bat droppings in bat caves.. I wonder if they pick it up then maybe spread it when they enter houses
Be aware they wouldn’t normally spread it to us or a third chain - it’s simply the fact that we caged and stressed them and kept them in large numbers with other animals in rubbish conditions surrounded by people. Left where they were even if you was in the forest or cave you’d never have had it. It’s greed, stupidity and materialistic behaviour by humans - specifically in certain parts of the world that are responsible for both this one and previous ones before. This isn’t some vegan crap, they kill and treat these purely for silly reasons not because they a staple food source. Now we paying the price - and it won’t be the last one unless these countries change their ways - that said these countries equally killing the planet in many other ways also.
What do the Chinese actually do with bats? Eat them or use them in medicine ?"
I think they use then to play cricket, rounders, softball and baseball, but I'm not sure.
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