FabSwingers.com > Forums > Virus > Should China...
Should China...
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *adetMan
over a year ago
South of Ipswich |
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ? "
I was pondering this actually
I wonder if they will be asked to pay reparations |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Treated differently how? "
If we're to believe this all started with virus transferred by the way they live in some parts (eating bats), surely everyone is a little concerned these practices stop ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
think most counteys should have as lityle as possible to do with the chinese goverment.they been treating there own people with disregared for years.and because they tried to keep this outbreak hushed up they have treated the rest of the world with the same contempt they have for there own people |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Yes hopefully they all seem to originate from china,they doing something wrong and how they treat animals is disgusting, aswell as other wild animals that are near extinction because of there medical potions.Maybe they will reimburse the rest of the world total cost or 80% |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uckymooMan
over a year ago
Mid-Cheshire |
I’m going to say it
They are dirty buggers and wont change thier ways
When in china with work i was told only ever eat the meat which is on a bone
That way you have an idea what it is
They are a disgusting ferrel bunch |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ? "
How can we as we are all in hock to them... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I’m going to say it
They are dirty buggers and wont change thier ways
When in china with work i was told only ever eat the meat which is on a bone
That way you have an idea what it is
They are a disgusting ferrel bunch"
I've got to be honest, I've been thinking twice about Chinese takeaway since all this started. Some may play the racist card at that thought but fact is their culture in some quarters at least is questionable and I'm not sure I want to chance it anymore. Not that I'm suggesting I catch covid from a chicken curry btw |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
Certainly a big argument for not buying so much from china for economic reasons as much as for showing disgust with their animal welfare.
Globalism has made us too dependent on others |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Why? Are you suggesting that this is some kind of state sponsored chemical weapon attack on tge world?"
Read the post....I never mentioned anything about a deliberate chemical attack, I'd rather not go through this again in a few years time due to the way parts of a country choose to live. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Any sanctions would only harm the ordinary Chinese citizen. The rich would remain rich. The food markets with all the different kinds of animal meat are catering to the well off. Ordinary people can't afford to buy there. After Sars-cov 1, in 2003, they were shut, but reopened because rich people complained they couldn't get their bat meat, with whatever on top.
Then sars-cov 2...
Hopefully they will listen this time. And not cater to the rich minorities. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ookMan
over a year ago
london |
This has been coming for a long time... nobody expected it to be as bad. We should not blame any country race color or creed. We are all humans living on the same planet breathing the same polluted air. We must learn to adapt and overcome this without falling into blame valley. Don’t want to mention the r word but this is how it all goes tits up. It’s not us and them it’s the whole planet. Our lives will change now let’s try and take some good stuff from it rather than moan and blame people. And as for Chinese takeaway I ll have the duck pancakes please .
Don’t forget to give the nurses the clap later... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I’m going to say it
They are dirty buggers and wont change thier ways
When in china with work i was told only ever eat the meat which is on a bone
That way you have an idea what it is
They are a disgusting ferrel bunch
I've got to be honest, I've been thinking twice about Chinese takeaway since all this started. Some may play the racist card at that thought but fact is their culture in some quarters at least is questionable and I'm not sure I want to chance it anymore. Not that I'm suggesting I catch covid from a chicken curry btw"
 you do realise that takeaways and restaurants in the UK must adhere to UK regulations? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"The emergence of the virus in the same city as China’s only level 4 biosafety lab, it turns out, is pure coincidence".
Nothing is proven and we will all have to assume it is just a coincidence. But I expect a lot of people will be looking at China in a different light in the future. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Some great generalized racism here
What has racism got to do with it ?"
Calling an entire nation dirty, disgusting & ferrel ? What would u class that as ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Some great generalized racism here
What has racism got to do with it ?
Calling an entire nation dirty, disgusting & ferrel ? What would u class that as ? "
Bad spelling? Unless the assertion is that all Chinese people are related to (or maybe clones of) a famous American comedy actor.
But seriously, yes - I would see the underlying sentiment as very racist and I'm happy to help you call it out. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Certainly a big argument for not buying so much from china for economic reasons as much as for showing disgust with their animal welfare.
Globalism has made us too dependent on others "
Are you saying globalisation is bad?
I think this topic quite ironic considering the popularity of Chinese cuisine in this country.
I do however think there are serious concerns about the level of food hygiene over there. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"This was started by eating bats, they have been doing that for years and years.
Man made biological warfare to thin out the over populated planet."
Eh?? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"This isnt the first time a disease has originated in china and caused a lot of stress, panic and deaths"
Other countries have originated viruses. Mongolia, the black death. Zaire in Africa, ebola. Spanish flu from America.. Should we deal with them differently? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
for those saying racism.i think most on here are talking about how shit the chinese goverment have been not the general public in china.but they do seem to have a problem with these viruses flaring up.usualy there on top of it but this time they fucked up big time.so goverments around the world need to stop being so close to them.boris for example can fuk em off out of any buisness he was thinking of doing with them.and if goverments wont do it.it will be down to the public to stop buying all the cheap shit they make |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"If the virus had somehow originated here, how would you like the rest of the world to treat us? "
you mean like foot and mouth.... and BSE...
because i don't remember people to inflict stuff like you are suggesting on us. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Shouldn't the UK pay reparations for the slave trade first?
Disrespectful treatment of fellow humans is also offensive to some..."
But did the slave trade, regardless of how reprehensible it was, cause a global pandemic and bring countries to their knees, economically and otherwise.
Why do countries and practices from the past have to bow to present day Apologists? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
There are alot of practices that we find abhorrent
Child labour
Fgm
Children in india sleeping on the streets
Countries eating animals we keep as pets
Are we going to boycott all those countries?
Assuming that the likes of Next, Gap, M and S and primark survive this, are we going to stop buying their products?
Because those clothes you buy cheaply in Primark? You understand WHY they are so cheap, right? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"This is COVID-19; it hit China in 2020 - so where did it originate? "
It was identified in China in late November 2019 though there is a suggestion that it was known at least a month earlier. They officially reported it at the end of december 2019. this is why it is CoVID 19 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Great chance for countries to produce its own products and tell China to do one."
too right!!!
p.s can i have your computer and your mobile phone for starters...
I mean... practice what you preach! right??? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uckymooMan
over a year ago
Mid-Cheshire |
"There are alot of practices that we find abhorrent
Child labour
Fgm
Children in india sleeping on the streets
Countries eating animals we keep as pets
Are we going to boycott all those countries?
Assuming that the likes of Next, Gap, M and S and primark survive this, are we going to stop buying their products?
Because those clothes you buy cheaply in Primark? You understand WHY they are so cheap, right?"
Why not i say lets show’m |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Why? Are you suggesting that this is some kind of state sponsored chemical weapon attack on tge world?
Read the post....I never mentioned anything about a deliberate chemical attack, I'd rather not go through this again in a few years time due to the way parts of a country choose to live."
If you seriously think something like this is not going to happen again you are delusional, this is going to be happening on a regular basis every few years. And they will get worse; viruses evolve faster than we can find vaccines, if it isn't a virus that gets us it will be a bacterial infection resistant to all known antibiotics |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uckymooMan
over a year ago
Mid-Cheshire |
"If the virus had somehow originated here, how would you like the rest of the world to treat us?
you mean like foot and mouth.... and BSE...
because i don't remember people to inflict stuff like you are suggesting on us."
Mmmmm you sure about the BSE |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"This is COVID-19; it hit China in 2020 - so where did it originate?
It was identified in China in late November 2019 though there is a suggestion that it was known at least a month earlier. They officially reported it at the end of december 2019. this is why it is CoVID 19"
Don't go bringing up facts, nobody likes those any more  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"There are alot of practices that we find abhorrent
Child labour
Fgm
Children in india sleeping on the streets
Countries eating animals we keep as pets
Are we going to boycott all those countries?
Assuming that the likes of Next, Gap, M and S and primark survive this, are we going to stop buying their products?
Because those clothes you buy cheaply in Primark? You understand WHY they are so cheap, right?
Why not i say lets show’m"
Gosh I hope that was a joke |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ?
How can we as we are all in hock to them..."
Well, if nothing is done to curb China and any other countries then this will repeat over and over again |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"If the virus had somehow originated here, how would you like the rest of the world to treat us?
you mean like foot and mouth.... and BSE...
because i don't remember people to inflict stuff like you are suggesting on us.
Mmmmm you sure about the BSE"
I wouldn't question BSE but I would question foot and mouth... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ? "
That'll be the China who were so on the case that the got the situation under control, in a country of over a billion, in a matter of weeks.
Meanwhile in the UK we have plenty of 'practices' like allowing animals to have their throats slit without stunning first in abattoirs. Cities full of homeless people. Lobsters and elvers are cooked alive in the UK. And we have no chance of containing a pandemic so swiftly in a country of only 60 million. Oh yea and we allow adults to chop the foreskin of children without their consent.
I could list plenty more of our 'civilised' practices. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ?
That'll be the China who were so on the case that the got the situation under control, in a country of over a billion, in a matter of weeks.
Meanwhile in the UK we have plenty of 'practices' like allowing animals to have their throats slit without stunning first in abattoirs. Cities full of homeless people. Lobsters and elvers are cooked alive in the UK. And we have no chance of containing a pandemic so swiftly in a country of only 60 million. Oh yea and we allow adults to chop the foreskin of children without their consent.
I could list plenty more of our 'civilised' practices."
in this country you can be sent to prison for watching state TV without a licence they would love that in China |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *on0808Man
over a year ago
Billericay |
Definitely, they eat every animal under the sun and dirty as anything , and they give us covid 19 , they may be hard workers but for now there on my list of things I hate and dont want anything to do with. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ?
That'll be the China who were so on the case that the got the situation under control, in a country of over a billion, in a matter of weeks.
Meanwhile in the UK we have plenty of 'practices' like allowing animals to have their throats slit without stunning first in abattoirs. Cities full of homeless people. Lobsters and elvers are cooked alive in the UK. And we have no chance of containing a pandemic so swiftly in a country of only 60 million. Oh yea and we allow adults to chop the foreskin of children without their consent.
I could list plenty more of our 'civilised' practices."
Indeed
There are thousands of children in India that live on rubbish tips
Possibly OUR rubbish
Do we consider that when we go down the local curry house on a Friday night, to get trashed with our mates?
Of course not
Cos we are alright, Jack |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Shouldn't the UK pay reparations for the slave trade first?
Disrespectful treatment of fellow humans is also offensive to some..."
I am sick and tired of PC rubbish about US white people paying for the slave trade.
Has most of Europe ask Rome to pay for all the millions of slaves they took . The number of slaves the Vikings took around the UK and Ireland was 100s of 1000s. So should Norway Sweden etc pay us millions.
Every single country in the world has sold slaves at one point in history. Parts of the world are still doing it. The slave trade started because blacks selling blacks to get our trade goods. And then sugar and tea along side cheap cotton. People became cheap. And thing's changed. But it's not my fault or anyone living. Should we still blame the Germans for the millions killed in WW2 or the Japanese for what they did. And PC lovely white people blaming everything on the white people in past history really does make me laugh at the fools |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Some great generalized racism here
What has racism got to do with it ?
Calling an entire nation dirty, disgusting & ferrel ? What would u class that as ?
Bad spelling? Unless the assertion is that all Chinese people are related to (or maybe clones of) a famous American comedy actor.
But seriously, yes - I would see the underlying sentiment as very racist and I'm happy to help you call it out."
I was copying the words of the previous poster. I’m aware how to spell feral and also Ferrell. Who is this ferrel or whom u speak ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Some great generalized racism here
What has racism got to do with it ?
Calling an entire nation dirty, disgusting & ferrel ? What would u class that as ?
Bad spelling? Unless the assertion is that all Chinese people are related to (or maybe clones of) a famous American comedy actor.
But seriously, yes - I would see the underlying sentiment as very racist and I'm happy to help you call it out.
I was copying the words of the previous poster. I’m aware how to spell feral and also Ferrell. Who is this ferrel or whom u speak ?"
Fly half No10 for England ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Yeh just got back from clapping nhs workers,black white chinese,surely got to drop this slave thing etc and all work out how to stop this happening again and again,it just high lights how vunerable humans are compared to mother nature |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
bournemouth |
"If the virus had somehow originated here, how would you like the rest of the world to treat us?
you mean like foot and mouth.... and BSE...
because i don't remember people to inflict stuff like you are suggesting on us."
Foot and mouth is a world wide issue, it came here on imported cheap meat, BSE was not a solely uk issue either although we had it worse due to the very high levels of organophosphate dressing we were made to use to ride cattle of warbler flies |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
What! Come on,how has it started from what they have been eating for most probably thousands of years? Why hasn't it occurred previously from what they eat? It's more likely to be man made for many reasons, which is a massive can of worms in itself |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adetMan
over a year ago
South of Ipswich |
"What! Come on,how has it started from what they have been eating for most probably thousands of years? Why hasn't it occurred previously from what they eat? It's more likely to be man made for many reasons, which is a massive can of worms in itself"
1. It has occurred previously
2. They've already sequenced its genome and know very precisely when it jumped from animals to humans |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Our friend Gabrielle is quite correct- thank you. Nothing justifies racism though and our friends here expressing such thoughts need to look at themselves. China and it's people are victims - not the cause. Our generation is betraying our elders- they fought and died - we might die, but poor us we are being asked to stay at home. No time for blame - together we will beat this thing. Blame? We'll fail. Sorry - just stop calling China - it is not the Chinese Virus - it's a bloody plague and we are all at risk. More love, less vitriol guys. Stay safe, look out for your vulnerable neighbours and family xxx |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
My sentiments also,thin out the population, no massive casualty wars to thin it out,self isolation, no sports to watch,shit television, Mark my words the biggest baby boom globally ever will take place first quarter next year, out with the old and underlying problems and in with the new generation, should have bought condoms instead of toilet roll |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"As an individual you can decide to not buy anything "made in China" simple and if enough people did so ... rather than a lot of hot air! "
My ex and I tried to do this many years ago when China introduced it's one child policy which in turn led to the Dying Rooms. Mostly girls that nobody wanted as an only child, abandoned to die. It was almost impossible not to buy something made in China even back then. But I do agree with the principle. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adetMan
over a year ago
South of Ipswich |
"My sentiments also,thin out the population, no massive casualty wars to thin it out,self isolation, no sports to watch,shit television, Mark my words the biggest baby boom globally ever will take place first quarter next year, out with the old and underlying problems and in with the new generation, should have bought condoms instead of toilet roll"
Thin out the population and create a baby boom? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
In many parts of the world people consider drinking the product mammals produce to nourish their young as weird. Why is eating small mammals with wings considered weird here? We eat rabbits, there is a European tradition of eating dormice. The French eat snails, and very good they are too. Horse meat butchers were also once commonplace there. Muslims and Jews consider pork to be unclean, we love bacon. Different cultures eat different animals and some eat none. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adetMan
over a year ago
South of Ipswich |
"In many parts of the world people consider drinking the product mammals produce to nourish their young as weird. Why is eating small mammals with wings considered weird here? We eat rabbits, there is a European tradition of eating dormice. The French eat snails, and very good they are too. Horse meat butchers were also once commonplace there. Muslims and Jews consider pork to be unclean, we love bacon. Different cultures eat different animals and some eat none. "
From a moral stance there is no difference
That changes however when people continue to eat animals that are well known to be reservoirs of these kind of viruses |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ubkidMan
over a year ago
University |
"Treated differently how?
If we're to believe this all started with virus transferred by the way they live in some parts (eating bats), surely everyone is a little concerned these practices stop ? "
First of all, Chinese people aren’t Ozzy Osborne. The racism needs to end guys. This virus could have started anywhere, as other corona viruses do.
We need to think as an international community and not little Britain being hounded my disease from the foreigners - wise up.
Look after each other, follow guidelines and stop laying blame at the door of large swathes of people. It’s annoying as hell. Countries don’t create crises like this. Jesus. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
Beyond the shadows. |
In the 1970's China was facing a massive famine and the Chinese government which controlled food production was struggling to feed its people. So in the late 70's it gave up its control over food production and allowed private farming. Major agricultural companies started farming what we would consider normal meat sources but some smaller farmers started farming wild animals to sustain them self's because it was sustaining people in a time of famine the government backed it. In 88 the government passed a law that designated wild animals as resources owned by the state and encouraged the domestication and breading of wildlife. This over time allowed small farms to grow into large industrial sized battery farm type operations or major organisations to move in. Flooding the markets with a variety of different types of animals, in these markets the animals are stacked in cages on top of each other, inevitably meaning that virus have a higher chance of jumping species.
I don't think the animal source of Covid-19 has not been identified yet, but is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected something called a Pangolin which in turn might have infected chickens or other animals sold there, which in turn infected humans. A large majority of Chinese people don't eat these wild animals but the rich and powerful do, which keeps this going, as with all rich and powerful people across the globe they can exert pressure on their governments communist or not. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ubkidMan
over a year ago
University |
"In the 1970's China was facing a massive famine and the Chinese government which controlled food production was struggling to feed its people. So in the late 70's it gave up its control over food production and allowed private farming. Major agricultural companies started farming what we would consider normal meat sources but some smaller farmers started farming wild animals to sustain them self's because it was sustaining people in a time of famine the government backed it. In 88 the government passed a law that designated wild animals as resources owned by the state and encouraged the domestication and breading of wildlife. This over time allowed small farms to grow into large industrial sized battery farm type operations or major organisations to move in. Flooding the markets with a variety of different types of animals, in these markets the animals are stacked in cages on top of each other, inevitably meaning that virus have a higher chance of jumping species.
I don't think the animal source of Covid-19 has not been identified yet, but is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected something called a Pangolin which in turn might have infected chickens or other animals sold there, which in turn infected humans. A large majority of Chinese people don't eat these wild animals but the rich and powerful do, which keeps this going, as with all rich and powerful people across the globe they can exert pressure on their governments communist or not. "
Wow. This is tin hat stuff. England, you’re embarrassing yourself. France eats horse (as did the UK for a while unphased and unknowingly lol), don’t put this down to some silly idea of local custom. This was, like all others, a freak Coronavirus that could have happened anywhere.
Copy and paste warriors need to stop. Again:
Look after each other, be hygienic and follow government guidelines. Simple. Don’t blame the rest of the world. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ooskiMan
over a year ago
south coast |
"In the 1970's China was facing a massive famine and the Chinese government which controlled food production was struggling to feed its people. So in the late 70's it gave up its control over food production and allowed private farming. Major agricultural companies started farming what we would consider normal meat sources but some smaller farmers started farming wild animals to sustain them self's because it was sustaining people in a time of famine the government backed it. In 88 the government passed a law that designated wild animals as resources owned by the state and encouraged the domestication and breading of wildlife. This over time allowed small farms to grow into large industrial sized battery farm type operations or major organisations to move in. Flooding the markets with a variety of different types of animals, in these markets the animals are stacked in cages on top of each other, inevitably meaning that virus have a higher chance of jumping species.
I don't think the animal source of Covid-19 has not been identified yet, but is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected something called a Pangolin which in turn might have infected chickens or other animals sold there, which in turn infected humans. A large majority of Chinese people don't eat these wild animals but the rich and powerful do, which keeps this going, as with all rich and powerful people across the globe they can exert pressure on their governments communist or not.
Wow. This is tin hat stuff. England, you’re embarrassing yourself. France eats horse (as did the UK for a while unphased and unknowingly lol), don’t put this down to some silly idea of local custom. This was, like all others, a freak Coronavirus that could have happened anywhere.
Copy and paste warriors need to stop. Again:
Look after each other, be hygienic and follow government guidelines. Simple. Don’t blame the rest of the world."
 well said |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
Beyond the shadows. |
"In the 1970's China was facing a massive famine and the Chinese government which controlled food production was struggling to feed its people. So in the late 70's it gave up its control over food production and allowed private farming. Major agricultural companies started farming what we would consider normal meat sources but some smaller farmers started farming wild animals to sustain them self's because it was sustaining people in a time of famine the government backed it. In 88 the government passed a law that designated wild animals as resources owned by the state and encouraged the domestication and breading of wildlife. This over time allowed small farms to grow into large industrial sized battery farm type operations or major organisations to move in. Flooding the markets with a variety of different types of animals, in these markets the animals are stacked in cages on top of each other, inevitably meaning that virus have a higher chance of jumping species.
I don't think the animal source of Covid-19 has not been identified yet, but is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected something called a Pangolin which in turn might have infected chickens or other animals sold there, which in turn infected humans. A large majority of Chinese people don't eat these wild animals but the rich and powerful do, which keeps this going, as with all rich and powerful people across the globe they can exert pressure on their governments communist or not.
Wow. This is tin hat stuff. England, you’re embarrassing yourself. France eats horse (as did the UK for a while unphased and unknowingly lol), don’t put this down to some silly idea of local custom. This was, like all others, a freak Coronavirus that could have happened anywhere.
Copy and paste warriors need to stop. Again:
Look after each other, be hygienic and follow government guidelines. Simple. Don’t blame the rest of the world."
Your right it can happen anywhere and you wont be laughing at my tin hat when the aliens arrive .I think you'll find I'm putting it down to bad practice, bad industrial farming and governments truing a blind eye to large corporations rather than localised customs. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Shouldn't the UK pay reparations for the slave trade first?
Disrespectful treatment of fellow humans is also offensive to some...
If there are any slaves still alive then yes"
Dead for several years They discovered the last woman to be victim of the slave trade recently. Do we want to go to 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Incredibly racist attitude - though the wildlife trade is undoubtedly to blame you realise that the overwhelming demand for these exotic meats comes from the rich? It’s not as if the whole of China eats pangolins. They tend to eat pork in the main and even then meat is still not as much a part of their diet as other countries.
Secondly, don’t conflate the Chinese Community Party with the people. It was the government - the autocratic one, mind you, that the people don’t get to vote out - that lied and covered this up at the start leading to the royal fuck up we all faced now.
Chinese people are scared witless of being disappeared by a murderous regime who have active concentration camps where they persecute their own citizens.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the Chinese Communist Party. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
One thing I’ll be doing personally is henceforth going vegetarian.
This was caused by wildlife animal farming for consumption.
Foot-and-mouth disease, mad cow disease, SARS - all animal to human infections. We need to stop farming animals to slaughter for food in my opinion for ethical reasons but also for our own safety. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"This is COVID-19; it hit China in 2020 - so where did it originate? "
Seemingly there is some fairly convincing evidence that it originated at a laboratory in the U.S.A. something Trump referred to as fake news. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adetMan
over a year ago
South of Ipswich |
"Shouldn't the UK pay reparations for the slave trade first?
Disrespectful treatment of fellow humans is also offensive to some...
If there are any slaves still alive then yes
Dead for several years They discovered the last woman to be victim of the slave trade recently. Do we want to go to 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation? "
Indeed, where would it end?
What about the millions of Europeans that were enslaved in North Africa, which triggered the Barbary Wars
To me it's like throwing someone in jail for a crime that their great great grandfather committed |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ? "
Jesus wept! Why stop there. What about charging the Americans for letting off all kinds of shit into the atmosphere with the bombs they dropped on Japan.
They didn't weaponise covid-19 and release it into the world.
I get it that some people need a bogey man, someone to blame, but hot damn!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
If you feel that strongly about this issue you could always make a stand and start your very own, boycott Chinese goods, stop buying products that originate in China.
Sort of putting your money where your mouth is, let me know how you get along. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Shouldn't the UK pay reparations for the slave trade first?
Disrespectful treatment of fellow humans is also offensive to some...
If there are any slaves still alive then yes
Dead for several years They discovered the last woman to be victim of the slave trade recently. Do we want to go to 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation? "
Human trafficking is slave trading of the modern world. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *etLikeMan
over a year ago
most fundamental aspects |
I understand that people may be angry and look for someone to blame at times of crisis. It happened during the bubonic plague, it happened in 30s Germany (beware of Godwin’s law). But it’s the virus we should be fighting.
What has surprised me is, I’ve read the whole thread and whilst people are speaking of comparisons to slavery, no one has mentioned the terrible toll the opium wars took on China. Hong Kong was taken by the British as bounty after China’s defeat. So before you start casting stones.... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Be treated differently once this eventually passes, with regard to the sickening videos of inhumane food prep and eating practices ? "
I personally don't think that one nation can impose their own model of morality on another. Who's to say that our chosen model is the correct one? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
