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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully." The whole worlds in the shit | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully." Just more panic and hype..... | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. The whole worlds in the shit" Very true | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype....." Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run." Oh, I'm sure we will do in the long run. Just a shame so many people are so keen to ignore the reality and make matters worse in the short term. -Matt | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator...." Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype....." You carry on sunshine | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about." Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella" We agree again. . | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run." Well said. | |||
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"The good news is that we are only up to our knees in it. The bad news is that we are standing on our heads." That is class, well done sir for such humour | |||
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"Its not panic or hype, its serious when folk are dying. " I swear the last person to go down on the titanic was saying just more panic and hype before they went under. How bad does it have to get before reality sets in? | |||
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"No harm in spreading some optimism...." | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella We agree again. . " Blimey Tom,it's becoming a habit! Good to see you back Sir! | |||
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"No harm in spreading some optimism...." You’re changing your tune a little!! | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run." Now that stuff makes me beak. Great country indeed. | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run. Now that stuff makes me beak. Great country indeed. " What does beak mean? Have to ask | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run. Now that stuff makes me beak. Great country indeed. " Its a world problem.Not a national one. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype....." No Mike it isn't its actually worse than many think but for subtlety complex reasons | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run. Now that stuff makes me beak. Great country indeed. Its a world problem.Not a national one." Yep.........true. | |||
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"Perhaps we are, but we aren't called Great Britain for no reason. We are a great country and will beat this in the long run. Well said. " Damn right | |||
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"had the text message to be on call Friday." I'm guessing despite your ripped torso, you are not a stripper? -Matt | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella We agree again. . " The peoples would still be at home if you hadn't woken them up | |||
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"mates of mine have been recalled and ordered to report for duty. all leave cancelled. so make of that what you will." So, I guess that is a "no" to being a stripper? -Matt | |||
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"mates of mine have been recalled and ordered to report for duty. all leave cancelled. so make of that what you will." They've been getting some retired fire service middle managers back in also since last week.. Prepping up.. | |||
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"mates of mine have been recalled and ordered to report for duty. all leave cancelled. so make of that what you will." Oooh squaddies | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. " it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. " It does unfortunately. | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " It's not Brexit FFS | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this." Exactly | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " And if we dont do this The economy will be in a WORSE state. | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " Have you not noticed that in other countries it has worked? Social distancing is the only way to slow it down. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella We agree again. . Blimey Tom,it's becoming a habit! Good to see you back Sir!" | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella We agree again. . The peoples would still be at home if you hadn't woken them up " Wake Up Peoples...I think the Peoples are finally awake | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " Which bit of this are you still trying so hard to fail to understand? -Matt | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Have you not noticed that in other countries it has worked? Social distancing is the only way to slow it down. " Money Is more important than peoples lives safely. | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Which bit of this are you still trying so hard to fail to understand? -Matt" Matt.... Most of it, explain it to me, I am listening..... Michael | |||
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"People won’t stick to it ," The police have the powers to enforce it. Also it doesn't need to be every single person. As you know, there will still be people going to work, etc. It just needs to be the majority. -Matt | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. " We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo | |||
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"People won’t stick to it ," Of course they won't. Why should they ?? | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Have you not noticed that in other countries it has worked? Social distancing is the only way to slow it down. Money Is more important than peoples lives safely." That might be your view but it isn't mine. | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo" You say four to six weeks, there is no exit strategy....and there is no guarantee it is going to work.... | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Have you not noticed that in other countries it has worked? Social distancing is the only way to slow it down. Money Is more important than peoples lives safely. That might be your view but it isn't mine. " I was being sarcastic | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " Earth to Planet mike | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo" we share custody though. She is meant to be with me mon to Thursday and him the rest of the week. So her staying home.. isnt that simple | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo You say four to six weeks, there is no exit strategy....and there is no guarantee it is going to work...." Ok it may be longer than that but thinking logically (which seems a big issue for some on here) IF people abide by the lockdown the number of new cases should drop dramatically. Assuming I've read and understood the infection/isolation periods correctly. And no, things won't work if people have the "why should we comply?" sort of attitude. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ??" Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo we share custody though. She is meant to be with me mon to Thursday and him the rest of the week. So her staying home.. isnt that simple " She will be staying with you then until this ends I think. | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo we share custody though. She is meant to be with me mon to Thursday and him the rest of the week. So her staying home.. isnt that simple " If you're at home 7 days a week as part of the lockdown then it is that simple. Yes, it's going to be hard but unfortunately parental custody agreements go out the window. I have a lot of sympathy for everyone in this situation but it won't be forever, people need to be sensible, try and explain things the best they can to their kids and ensure that Facetime, Skype, WhatsApp etc are utilised. | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo You say four to six weeks, there is no exit strategy....and there is no guarantee it is going to work...." Exit of what? There's no guarantee of anything. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist" Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up... | |||
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"I think that if Boro had done the job right in the first place and stopped all travel as soon as it started in China then we wouldn't be in the shit we are now and then I would not be doing 15 hours a day in a truck and then when I finish and try to buy food it's all gone. Cheers moron panic buyer's.just hope I remember to brake when I come up behind an estate car with the rear seats down so they can get more in. Rant over. Stay safe guys take care. " I think when all this is over a full investigation needs to be done. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up..." If they don't act like dickheads they won't be fined, it's their own fault if they get fined. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up... If they don't act like dickheads they won't be fined, it's their own fault if they get fined. " Spot on | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Which bit of this are you still trying so hard to fail to understand? -Matt Matt.... Most of it, explain it to me, I am listening..... Michael" OK, lets try slowly. Each person on average infects 3 other people at the moment. That is the current rate. Known as R0. That means that if I go out and about as usual, I infect 3 other people. Those 3 other people infect another 3 people each. That is a total now, of 13 people (1 + 3 + 3*3). Those 9 can go on and infect another 3 people each. ie 27 people. So now we have (1 + 3 + 3*3 + 3*3*3) = 40 people in total... then 121... then 364... then 1093... see... it starts to go up dramatically. After 10 levels above we now have 88,573 people. But what would happen if instead of 3 people infected each level, it was only 2? What if at each level, 1 person stayed at home, or didn't go out? Then after 10 level we'd only have 2,047 total people infected. A massive difference. At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. So far the government has asked people to "socially distance" and it has not worked. People who don't think that this applies to them and don't understand or care that it affect everyone continued going out. Now the government has had to take the next step up and mandate further lock down. Because some idiots couldn't control themselves. -Matt | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ??" Um... because they shouldn't be selfish cunts? Because maybe if not for the sake of others, they might realise that it might be them in need of medical help sometime in the near future? -Matt | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up..." Great.... people are already in healthcare difficulty and you want to let people spread it further. You could not make it up... -Matt | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. " I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up... Great.... people are already in healthcare difficulty and you want to let people spread it further. You could not make it up... -Matt" Who sold all the NHS beds to the private sector? You got rid of all the nurses? You couldn't make it up | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations." How many people need to die before you think people should stop being knobheads and try to protect the more vulnerable? | |||
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"had the text message to be on call Friday." Stay safe. Whatever it is you do it’s obviously important. | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo we share custody though. She is meant to be with me mon to Thursday and him the rest of the week. So her staying home.. isnt that simple If you're at home 7 days a week as part of the lockdown then it is that simple. Yes, it's going to be hard but unfortunately parental custody agreements go out the window. I have a lot of sympathy for everyone in this situation but it won't be forever, people need to be sensible, try and explain things the best they can to their kids and ensure that Facetime, Skype, WhatsApp etc are utilised." he has said he will still pick her up and drop her off as he is driving past on his way to work. I dont know how this stands but I'm not going to stop him if he wants to pick her up... technically she could walk from ours to his for exercise across the fields..He lives by himself. So don't know how it will be. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up..." I was going to say something but you really aren't worth it, so put this instead. | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations." I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt | |||
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" How many people need to die before you think people should stop being knobheads and try to protect the more vulnerable? " That's the point of a pandemic. It does take the vulnerable. It's fighting nature to stop that. Thinking "Oh we have to save granny" is emotional non-scientific selfish thinking. Yeah I get that people care about relatives, I do too, but we should be thinking of the greater good. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. " Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up... Great.... people are already in healthcare difficulty and you want to let people spread it further. You could not make it up... -Matt Who sold all the NHS beds to the private sector? You got rid of all the nurses? You couldn't make it up" Especially when we were already understaffed in that department. Not even including that "flu pandemic" has been on the national risk register since at least 2008 and is down as one of the most disruptive and most likely events to happen. -Matt | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations." That's cold. Please explain how the economic fallout from this benefits anyone? How many lost man hours will this cost? How much poorer will all be after this is over? | |||
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"If we weren't in the sh1t before we certainly are now.... Can't believe what has been done..." What would you do differently? | |||
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"If we weren't in the sh1t before we certainly are now.... Can't believe what has been done..." You mean you can't believe that people like yourself that have been denying the reality of this has forced this move to be made. -Matt | |||
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" How many people need to die before you think people should stop being knobheads and try to protect the more vulnerable? That's the point of a pandemic. It does take the vulnerable. It's fighting nature to stop that. Thinking "Oh we have to save granny" is emotional non-scientific selfish thinking. Yeah I get that people care about relatives, I do too, but we should be thinking of the greater good." Surely taken to the logical conclusion only the strongest in society survive? | |||
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" How many people need to die before you think people should stop being knobheads and try to protect the more vulnerable? That's the point of a pandemic. It does take the vulnerable. It's fighting nature to stop that. Thinking "Oh we have to save granny" is emotional non-scientific selfish thinking. Yeah I get that people care about relatives, I do too, but we should be thinking of the greater good." You and Hitler would have been good mates. | |||
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"If we weren't in the sh1t before we certainly are now.... Can't believe what has been done... You mean you can't believe that people like yourself that have been denying the reality of this has forced this move to be made. -Matt" the move was made months ago | |||
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"If we weren't in the sh1t before we certainly are now.... Can't believe what has been done... You mean you can't believe that people like yourself that have been denying the reality of this has forced this move to be made. -Matt" The Government have pushed us further in and then keep their boot on to apply pressure... | |||
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" I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt" Nope. I'd feel bad about them going but no worse than them being taken by another cause. I'd also feel selfish for feeling bad when it was for the greater good. For the record I'm in a medium risk group and my parents srrboth over 70, so I'm aware that's a real possibility. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. " Bulk buying will not be allowed. Supermarkets will only allow a certain number of people into the shops at a time. They can restock easier. There will be tape outside the shops and you step forward one see a at a time once someone comes out. This is happening in Spsin etc and the shelves are well stocked | |||
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" How many people need to die before you think people should stop being knobheads and try to protect the more vulnerable? That's the point of a pandemic. It does take the vulnerable. It's fighting nature to stop that. Thinking "Oh we have to save granny" is emotional non-scientific selfish thinking. Yeah I get that people care about relatives, I do too, but we should be thinking of the greater good." Do you include yourself in that as a woman in her 40s who describes herself as “fat”? Will you be giving up your ventilator to someone younger and fitter? At peace with natural selection? | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations. That's cold. Please explain how the economic fallout from this benefits anyone? How many lost man hours will this cost? How much poorer will all be after this is over?" He didnt say the economic fallout will benefit anyone. He said pandemics benefit populations be reducing it. His point was that the numbers doesnt justify bringing the world to a economic diaster and ruin when not even 0.1% of the population his it. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully." Very and the Government made it several metres deeper.... | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype....." At least we have your medical expertise to rely upon! | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it...." Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief." No need to insult people you disagree with.... | |||
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" I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt Nope. I'd feel bad about them going but no worse than them being taken by another cause. I'd also feel selfish for feeling bad when it was for the greater good. For the record I'm in a medium risk group and my parents srrboth over 70, so I'm aware that's a real possibility. " For the greater good we should restrict how many children we can have. We should stop poluting our planet. We should plough money into education and advancement of the human race... There's many things we could do for the greater good but don't. Those things would be sensible and not involve mass graves... | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief." I was just typing something similar. It's actually depressing how people are throwing around blame and thinking we should just let people die. | |||
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" I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt Nope. I'd feel bad about them going but no worse than them being taken by another cause. I'd also feel selfish for feeling bad when it was for the greater good. For the record I'm in a medium risk group and my parents srrboth over 70, so I'm aware that's a real possibility. " You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views? | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? " They are in power, why is it not political...?? | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. No need to insult people you disagree with...." Its not an insult mate if the cap fits. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? They are in power, why is it not political...??" Which actions of the Government are you referring to, and what exactly are they fueling ? | |||
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" Will you be giving up your ventilator to someone younger and fitter? At peace with natural selection?" Yes and yes. I've nearly been on a ventilator before with a serious illness and I basically refused it. | |||
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" You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views?" Not quite. I believe in natural selection, as I understand it they decided they knew better than nature. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? They are in power, why is it not political...?? Which actions of the Government are you referring to, and what exactly are they fueling ?" The desire to panic buy..... | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? " Of course its political. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? They are in power, why is it not political...?? Which actions of the Government are you referring to, and what exactly are they fueling ? The desire to panic buy....." I´ll type this slowly for you...which actions of the government created the desire for people to panic buy ? | |||
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" You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views? Not quite. I believe in natural selection, as I understand it they decided they knew better than nature." So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? | |||
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" You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views? Not quite. I believe in natural selection, as I understand it they decided they knew better than nature." It's not far off..survival of the fittest..Nietzsche etc I think society has a duty to look after all its members..no matter how old. | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? They are in power, why is it not political...?? Which actions of the Government are you referring to, and what exactly are they fueling ? The desire to panic buy..... I´ll type this slowly for you...which actions of the government created the desire for people to panic buy ?" LOL......Made me smile...!! | |||
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" You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views? Not quite. I believe in natural selection, as I understand it they decided they knew better than nature." What is natural about a society of elite rich who buy politicians and influence the laws which skew the competitive chances of the stronger but don't stand a chance against those born rich? 'Natural Selection' has seen an absolute halfwit become president of the United States.... | |||
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"Tomorrow will tell the story. I predict bulk buying all over again. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear I'm not. Yes, of course, government actions fuelling it.... Why the fuck are you trying to make this political ? They are in power, why is it not political...?? Which actions of the Government are you referring to, and what exactly are they fueling ? The desire to panic buy..... I´ll type this slowly for you...which actions of the government created the desire for people to panic buy ? LOL......Made me smile...!!" Awesome !! Then my work here is done. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics?" I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations. I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt" I get what he's saying and where he's coming from. It may sound cold. I also think your response is more subjective than objective too. Is a subjective response any better than an objective one? The world carried on for months as they watched the Hutus and Tutsis murder each other without interfering until nearly 3 million had died. Of course it didn't warrant it because it didn't effect us, it had no bearing on the stock exchange so no wealth or economy was being effected other than their own. Wasn't important because they were of different colour, race and were from darkest African corner. It took 1.6 million to be killed and a week before it got the BBC news. 6.7 million buried (population of Ireland N and S). I'd say most here didn't stop in their tracks to think, there were Grandfather's, Grandmother's, father's, mother's, sons, daughters , families, villages, communities wiped out. Atrocities to children and women that would make Ur hairs curl. Those who survived watch the west looking in on them like at a cinema. I'm afraid we're all guilty of being cold and seemingly showing lack of compassion. It doesn't mean we don't have it, maybe just a different perspective and that shouldn't be just assumed as wrong. What is needed more than anything is showing compassion towards those who are reacting or responding differently. Their circumstances are different, background is different, life experiences are different. Views are different too. Respect that and be big enough to be compassionate towards everyone. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating." The sentimentality that you refer to is called humanity. Compassion is the one aspect of human beings that justifies their existence on this planet at all. We are not robots. | |||
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"The country has seen worse and has came back from worse. " The world has not seen worse let alone Britain. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating." It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype....." Surely you are not that stupid? | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations. I'm curious about people who have this view... if it was one of your loved ones that died, would that change your view? -Matt I get what he's saying and where he's coming from. It may sound cold. I also think your response is more subjective than objective too. Is a subjective response any better than an objective one? The world carried on for months as they watched the Hutus and Tutsis murder each other without interfering until nearly 3 million had died. Of course it didn't warrant it because it didn't effect us, it had no bearing on the stock exchange so no wealth or economy was being effected other than their own. Wasn't important because they were of different colour, race and were from darkest African corner. It took 1.6 million to be killed and a week before it got the BBC news. 6.7 million buried (population of Ireland N and S). I'd say most here didn't stop in their tracks to think, there were Grandfather's, Grandmother's, father's, mother's, sons, daughters , families, villages, communities wiped out. Atrocities to children and women that would make Ur hairs curl. Those who survived watch the west looking in on them like at a cinema. I'm afraid we're all guilty of being cold and seemingly showing lack of compassion. It doesn't mean we don't have it, maybe just a different perspective and that shouldn't be just assumed as wrong. What is needed more than anything is showing compassion towards those who are reacting or responding differently. Their circumstances are different, background is different, life experiences are different. Views are different too. Respect that and be big enough to be compassionate towards everyone. " At more or less the same time we hit on the same word. Compassion. | |||
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" You do realise the nazi's held exactly those views? Not quite. I believe in natural selection, as I understand it they decided they knew better than nature. What is natural about a society of elite rich who buy politicians and influence the laws which skew the competitive chances of the stronger but don't stand a chance against those born rich? 'Natural Selection' has seen an absolute halfwit become president of the United States...." brilliant | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this." No. It was always going to come to this. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too." Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this. No. It was always going to come to this. " Well, we could have done things differently and come to a different outcome. We could have tested and tracked earlier. We could have taken heed of what was going on in China and in Italy. But if what you mean is "the British population would always have contained idiots that would have fucked it up" then I think I agree with you. Brexit showed that... now people might start to realise. -Matt | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up..." Johnson has given the warning. So you're right, the poster didn't make it up. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life" All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. | |||
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"People won’t stick to it , Of course they won't. Why should they ?? Well they will soon find out that they will get fines followed by being detained if they persist Great.....people are already in financial difficulty and you want to fine them. You could not make it up... Johnson has given the warning. So you're right, the poster didn't make it up. " who will believe the government?¿?¿?¿?¿????? | |||
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"We needed to do something, but what is being done is too late ! I am sure Boris and his family and all his friends will be fine, deliveries of food, and no need to stray from number 10 he will be fine. what the hell I am going to do for food or work I have no idea ! no work, no money despite Boris's plans; ah well if the virus don't get me and starvation don't get me I will be in prison for trying to eat ! " You are in prison | |||
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"I watched it and I think it's the only thing to do now, people are acting like idiots. it is but I've got kids in tears as there dad doesnt live with us and they want to know If it counts for that. It does unfortunately. We've all got families we're going to miss. I've got 3 nephews I see 3-4 times a week and it's gonna be fucking horrible. However, nothing is more important to me than my families and friends so if I don't get to see them for 4-6 weeks while this is brought under control then so be it. I just hope to god EVERYONE tows the line here but some people are so fucking stupid and selfish I sadly fear it will take longer than expected to get back to anything near normality. Wo we share custody though. She is meant to be with me mon to Thursday and him the rest of the week. So her staying home.. isnt that simple If you're at home 7 days a week as part of the lockdown then it is that simple. Yes, it's going to be hard but unfortunately parental custody agreements go out the window. I have a lot of sympathy for everyone in this situation but it won't be forever, people need to be sensible, try and explain things the best they can to their kids and ensure that Facetime, Skype, WhatsApp etc are utilised. he has said he will still pick her up and drop her off as he is driving past on his way to work. I dont know how this stands but I'm not going to stop him if he wants to pick her up... technically she could walk from ours to his for exercise across the fields..He lives by himself. So don't know how it will be. " There are going to be many people in your situation. I empathise. The only advice I can suggest is that if she or whatever household she is in gets symptoms of the virus, she stays put for 14 days. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. " I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about." | |||
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"We needed to do something, but what is being done is too late ! I am sure Boris and his family and all his friends will be fine, deliveries of food, and no need to stray from number 10 he will be fine. what the hell I am going to do for food or work I have no idea ! no work, no money despite Boris's plans; ah well if the virus don't get me and starvation don't get me I will be in prison for trying to eat ! You are in prison" don't worry about prison. They will let you out on human rights issues. Fucking joke of a justice system | |||
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"The country has seen worse and has came back from worse. The world has not seen worse let alone Britain." It absolutely has... there are a number of examples from worse times in the world, where there wasn’t the medicine, science and technology to combat these things. Have some faith that the people that have spent years of their lives studying these sorts of things can help. Despite the overwhelming negative issue there are a lot of positives to take out of the humanity of it all. There are good people out there focused on making things better. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there" Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. | |||
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"And tonight at 2030 we will find out just how deep it is.... Hopefully. Just more panic and hype..... Let’s hope so. At 72 you might not be front of the queue for a ventilator.... Should not need one....hopefully. So much gloom, doom and pessimism about. Maybe Mike, you should get down to your local hospital and tell the NHS staff to 'cheer up' or 'look on the bright side'.....Let me know how that goes for you fella" | |||
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" At the current rate of infection, we are going to massively overload the number of ICU beds, ventilators, staff we have. And that is not just a problem for those that get the disease, but anyone else who needs treatment for anything else at the time too. You have a heart attack? Sorry, tough luck. You die. You involved in a serious car crash and need surgery? Sorry, you die. You have a bad asthma attack? Allergic reaction? You die. There simply will not be the medical facilities available to deal with these situations. I totally get the maths. I just think that number of deaths doesn't justify this reaction. In the long run pandemics are good for populations. That's cold. Please explain how the economic fallout from this benefits anyone? How many lost man hours will this cost? How much poorer will all be after this is over?" Genetically modified food came about due to an ever increasing overpopulation. It isn't science fiction. So cold - no, you simply cannot be emotive about that fact. | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief." No need for name calling, remember forum rules. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did." I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " And not only are people allowing their rights to be taken away, they are handing it to them on a silver platter. Scary times ahead indeed and not because of the coronavirus. Somthing far more sinister is going on. If people thing we are ever returning to normal from this, then think again. Now we have shown how easy it is to divide us, seperate us, take away our rights (heck they didnt even do that, we just laying down and handing it over) life as we knew it isnt ever coming back. | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... " Is that all you care about the economic situation?It is irrevilent at the present time. | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Is that all you care about the economic situation?It is irrevilent at the present time." Course it is | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. The sentimentality that you refer to is called humanity. Compassion is the one aspect of human beings that justifies their existence on this planet at all. We are not robots." No we're not but sheep are not just those with 4 legs and woolly coats . | |||
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"Panic measures..... No guarantee it will improve the situation and no exit strategy....meanwhile we go on destroying the economic life of the country.... Is that all you care about the economic situation?It is irrevilent at the present time." No it is not irrelevant. Guy posted further up, no work, no money equals no food. Several months of any lock down will result in millions in the same situatiin resorting to drastic measures. Shit is going to hit the fan literally. | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief." 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too " I beg you to use Google and see what science is discovering. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! " You can go to the shop to buy food | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too I beg you to use Google and see what science is discovering. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong " I'm sure you'll understand if I choose not to get my knowledge of science from the Guardian thank you | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! You can go to the shop to buy food" and the shops near you have food ? I went to morrisons tonight at 5pm, no milk, no fresh meat, no frozen food other than ice cream, no bread, no loo rolls, no soap, no detergent, no cans of veg, no pasta no rice …. and this is the same all over the country I am sure … yeh I can go out for food, but since I will have no wage, what the fuck am I paying for it with after the end of this month ! | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this. No. It was always going to come to this. " But now what is needed is to slow the spread then the NHS can cope , it’s as simple as that , it will spread , it will spread wide and far , it will also accelerate , the more we isolate the slower it spreads , the slower it spreads the better chance the NHS has to cope , if you go out and willingly socialise you are selfish it’s as simple as that ! | |||
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"The country has seen worse and has came back from worse. The world has not seen worse let alone Britain." Open a few history books and have a good read | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! You can go to the shop to buy food and the shops near you have food ? I went to morrisons tonight at 5pm, no milk, no fresh meat, no frozen food other than ice cream, no bread, no loo rolls, no soap, no detergent, no cans of veg, no pasta no rice …. and this is the same all over the country I am sure … yeh I can go out for food, but since I will have no wage, what the fuck am I paying for it with after the end of this month !" I was merely stating that you're not restricted from going out to buy food | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too I beg you to use Google and see what science is discovering. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong I'm sure you'll understand if I choose not to get my knowledge of science from the Guardian thank you " I'm sure that you'll that likewise I will choose not to get my knowledge of science from a swingers forum. But thank you for pointing out the existence of books on evolution, something that somehow escaped me for 50 years. | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! You can go to the shop to buy food and the shops near you have food ? I went to morrisons tonight at 5pm, no milk, no fresh meat, no frozen food other than ice cream, no bread, no loo rolls, no soap, no detergent, no cans of veg, no pasta no rice …. and this is the same all over the country I am sure … yeh I can go out for food, but since I will have no wage, what the fuck am I paying for it with after the end of this month ! I was merely stating that you're not restricted from going out to buy food" How does one prove that one is going out to buy food? | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this. No. It was always going to come to this. Well, we could have done things differently and come to a different outcome. We could have tested and tracked earlier. We could have taken heed of what was going on in China and in Italy. But if what you mean is "the British population would always have contained idiots that would have fucked it up" then I think I agree with you. Brexit showed that... now people might start to realise. -Matt" It's possible that Britain is governed by the party that historically is white, male, educated and arrogant (think victorian times). They would want their own scientists to guide them not those from other countries. It's a "we know best" cos we're rich and educated. What the populous does is irrelevant. So the govt would have been aware of some non-compliance. | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too I beg you to use Google and see what science is discovering. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong I'm sure you'll understand if I choose not to get my knowledge of science from the Guardian thank you I'm sure that you'll that likewise I will choose not to get my knowledge of science from a swingers forum. But thank you for pointing out the existence of books on evolution, something that somehow escaped me for 50 years. " Any time. I'd highly recommend anything by Richard Dawkins | |||
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"I really dont believe how many dickheads post on here.Stay in dont catch it then you cant spread it how can people still not understand that is beyond belief. 1. I understand it 2. I don't want to catch it. 3. I don't want to infect anyone else 4. I do not have food to last 14 days never mind three months 5. I cannot afford to stockpile and its not fair to others even if I could. 6 Boris says people will get food delivered; yeh right like I said him and his cohorts will. so bare in mind that whilst what you say is correct (excluding the insult) it is NOt practical for everyone - me included. with very elderly parents 100 miles away south, and a young son living alone 80 miles north and now cannot get home, and I can do nothing to help any of them, and I am fucking sure Boris and his Tory gang wont, but then nor would labour, they are all fine in their ivory towers ! You can go to the shop to buy food and the shops near you have food ? I went to morrisons tonight at 5pm, no milk, no fresh meat, no frozen food other than ice cream, no bread, no loo rolls, no soap, no detergent, no cans of veg, no pasta no rice …. and this is the same all over the country I am sure … yeh I can go out for food, but since I will have no wage, what the fuck am I paying for it with after the end of this month ! I was merely stating that you're not restricted from going out to buy food How does one prove that one is going out to buy food?" You'd have to ask the Government or the police maybe | |||
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"No harm in spreading some optimism...." Just dont be ignorant of what's happening | |||
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" So you’ve never accepted any western medicine I assume? Vaccines? If you got a cut would you just let yourself die rather than accept antibiotics? I don't have a problem with western medicine. I do think we keep people alive with extraordinary measures when we shouldn't and a time of crisis is not a time to get sentimental and emotional about it. I know my view is unusual, but for me the 'we have to save everyone' is unrealistic and...Well just doesn't make sense. And I find my inability to understand where people's actions are coming from frustrating. It's and interesting point you make. It's interesting how so many who advocate saving every life wouldn't disagree with evolution and the survival of the forest as standard belief too. Evolution explains how life on earth arrived at where it is today It should never be part of a belief system or a way to conduct your life All things evolve but traditional Darwinism has been debunked. I didn't mention Darwinism He struck upon the theory and you might say it evolved from there Evolution does not explain how we got here. In fact the rate of evolution proves that's not how we got here. The evolution of the human brain could not have occurred in the time that it supposedly did. I beg you to please go and read any book about evolution It's the fact that we know about our kinship with every other living thing that means we have vaccines and will be able to combat this particular virus...which just so happened to have fairly recently evolved too I beg you to use Google and see what science is discovering. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong I'm sure you'll understand if I choose not to get my knowledge of science from the Guardian thank you I'm sure that you'll that likewise I will choose not to get my knowledge of science from a swingers forum. But thank you for pointing out the existence of books on evolution, something that somehow escaped me for 50 years. Any time. I'd highly recommend anything by Richard Dawkins " Truth is a function of time | |||
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"If folks had actually followed the advice given originally then we wouldn't be in this situation. You think social distancing doesn't include you? You're part of the reason it's come to this. No. It was always going to come to this. But now what is needed is to slow the spread then the NHS can cope , it’s as simple as that , it will spread , it will spread wide and far , it will also accelerate , the more we isolate the slower it spreads , the slower it spreads the better chance the NHS has to cope , if you go out and willingly socialise you are selfish it’s as simple as that !" The start of squashing the curve began before today. The govt has gradually been doing it with previous measures. Which is why it was always going to come to this. It has been a calculated strategy with perhaps some measures brought forward a day or two as non-compliance has been outstanding. | |||
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