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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"And how exactly would you do that . When selfish morons are making thing worse for the vulnerable and the fear mongers are still preaching their bull shit . "
How about you and everyone else stop bitching at people having to do the best they can and start looking after the vulnerable.
Try shopping for the elderly and taking it to them and leaving it on their doorstep so they don’t have to go out.
Or asking the army to help at care homes when their staff get ill and can’t??
Or you go help at a care home. Or pick up trash at a hospital to help them.
Something productive instead of bitching and spouting crap |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead. "
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But the number of people dying is rising rapidly. Why not taje drastic measures to protect the vulnerable? |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. "
Staying in is not even government advice yet, the official advice is to social distance if nobody on your household is showing symptoms and self isolate for 14 days if one person does.
It's actually beneficial to get out and get some fresh air and exercise to.boost your immune system and preserve mental health. |
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I think we will have the army out on the streets soon, they might not make much of an impression but it's all we have so we'll have to live with it.
Apparently (unverified) France have said they will close the borders to the UK unless we take stricter measures, if that's the case then it will happen very soon as much of out food comes via France. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead. .
But the number of people dying is rising rapidly. Why not taje drastic measures to protect the vulnerable?"
There's strict measures and then there's going OTT. I believe that civil liberties need to be protected to the last, the freedom just to go for a walk for example. I don't want to see us in a situation like France where you need an official document just to leave the house for example, it's too Orwellian for my liking.
Plus we need to be conscious of the damage to the economy, that will affect the generations to come greatly. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet.
Staying in is not even government advice yet, the official advice is to social distance if nobody on your household is showing symptoms and self isolate for 14 days if one person does.
It's actually beneficial to get out and get some fresh air and exercise to.boost your immune system and preserve mental health."
People are ignoring the social distancing thing though. The army could be brought to the places where crowds of people are still gathering.
It's no good closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead. "
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy "
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons  |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons "
The morons will cause havoc and it’s time to abolish the snow flake attitudes |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons "
So you want to shoot people in the street??
Seriously!!!! |
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over a year ago
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As we're not on lockdown of course they shouldn't. When we are on lockdown I suspect the police will struggle to cope with mass disobedience but also think social pressure will eliminate mass disobedience |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons
The morons will cause havoc and it’s time to abolish the snow flake attitudes "
Good god!! Just read what you’ve said!!!
Get a grip!!!!
You want to ask a 19 year old soldier to shoot people dead for walking their dog??? |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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"And how exactly would you do that . When selfish morons are making thing worse for the vulnerable and the fear mongers are still preaching their bull shit .
How about you and everyone else stop bitching at people having to do the best they can and start looking after the vulnerable.
Try shopping for the elderly and taking it to them and leaving it on their doorstep so they don’t have to go out.
Or asking the army to help at care homes when their staff get ill and can’t??
Or you go help at a care home. Or pick up trash at a hospital to help them.
Something productive instead of bitching and spouting crap "
For your information. I look after several older people, not only in my street but in my neighbourhood. Shopping for them , taking them shopping or simply sharing what I have accumulated over my years in military service and as a prepper.
It’s the same gormless fucks who used to take the piss out of me for the latter who are now running round like headless chickens ‘sprouting crap’ and causing unnecessary fear .
And as an old soldier I know that if/when the army do come they will be there to support the police/ ambulance and fire helping and doing what and where they can .
You might want to find out a little about the people your attacking. My name is Pete by the way . I can give you my military number aswell if you want . |
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No, the Armed Forces will be doing many things, not least their primary role of defending the country.
When the government 'advice' turns to compulsion then the armed Forces will no doubt support the Police, who's role it is to enforce the law and keep public order. |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons
So you want to shoot people in the street??
Seriously!!!! "
I don't think anyone who mentioned using ammo ( we most certainly didnt) would mean the wanted people shooted. The army could patrol and take action that doesn't involve shooting. That would be taking it to an extreme which surely isn't needed. |
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"No, the Armed Forces will be doing many things, not least their primary role of defending the country.
When the government 'advice' turns to compulsion then the armed Forces will no doubt support the Police, who's role it is to enforce the law and keep public order."
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons
So you want to shoot people in the street??
Seriously!!!!
I don't think anyone who mentioned using ammo ( we most certainly didnt) would mean the wanted people shooted. The army could patrol and take action that doesn't involve shooting. That would be taking it to an extreme which surely isn't needed."
So what will they do??? They have no mandate to patrol as a police officer on domestic soil
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over a year ago
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I hope we don't get to or need the army out in some areas, but if it got to that point it certainly wouldn't be a dictatorship, the govt has been elected. |
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Macc, military aid to civil communities we used to do it regularly and still goes on and hopefully plans are being put in place if required and deployed etc..
Military dictatorship whereby using young kids to clear the streets, no ta..
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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i am off the opinion is that we should ask people nicely to behave and listen to the advice first.... if they don't then don't give them an option....
too many people at the moment just aren't listening...
i believe in the "carrot and stick" approach...
this is the carrot! and if not... bring on the stick! |
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"i am off the opinion is that we should ask people nicely to behave and listen to the advice first.... if they don't then don't give them an option....
too many people at the moment just aren't listening...
i believe in the "carrot and stick" approach...
this is the carrot! and if not... bring on the stick!"
Exactly!!! Not people walking their dogs but all the idiots congregating in large groups! Unfortunately a small minority will always need the stick |
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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago
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I think sometimes there are people on the forums who deliberately set out to wind up and cause dispute. Maybe it’s there version of fun . Oh well .
We don’t have to agree on anything. But let’s face it most of us are strangers. So we don’t really know anything about each other or each other’s history.
Surely we can disagree without reverting to personal attacks. |
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And the navy could patrol the rivers, ponds and canal network closely followed by the raf and other airborne forces patrolling the sky's, one Apache helicopter could cover at least a dozen supermarkets |
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"And the navy could patrol the rivers, ponds and canal network closely followed by the raf and other airborne forces patrolling the sky's, one Apache helicopter could cover at least a dozen supermarkets "
Was going to add we need to utilise more drones but..   |
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over a year ago
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"The army isn’t big enough.
Don't you think so but they do have a edge it's called an SA80 that talks volumes when people ain't doing as requested "
You can’t out run a Heckler & Kock |
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"The army isn’t big enough.
Don't you think so but they do have a edge it's called an SA80 that talks volumes when people ain't doing as requested "
We are a military couple. It’ll would be so thinly spread it would make no difference. Best thing to do is make us self policing. We need to tell people when they are doing things wrong. If you see this happening back people up. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"Should the army be brought in to patrol the streets?
Some people are obviously ignoring all advice.
Maybe it's time to get serious with the idiots."
we no longer have an army we have a defence force the us marine corps alone is bigger than our entire armed forces put together |
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By *ookMan
over a year ago
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Ok interesting thread. I consider myself sane sensible and intelligent. I dismissed this initially then have watched it progress and get worse day by day. I’ve got 2 kids and just taken them out for a scoot. We had strict rules about staying away from people not touching anything etc. The sun was shining and we kicked a ball about. We had fun. Inside I was processing every threat, every person was a potential risk and yes it’s scary but we must carry on. Would I like to see army or police out with guns... no but I think a percentage of people just don’t get it ( despite the media barrage) and worse just don’t seem to care. These are the few that will affect the many. We live in dangerous times and we need sensible solutions on a day by day basis. Stay inside if you can... minimise the risk... work together as local community to keep older and vulnerable safe etc etc... this will pass we just need some common sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Chuck Norris
Bruce Lee 
Don't be daft
Chuck could beat Bruce blindfolded, and beat coronavirus at the same time probably whilst pulling a hot chick in a bar at same time."
This made me laugh , yeah right |
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"The army isn’t big enough.
Don't you think so but they do have a edge it's called an SA80 that talks volumes when people ain't doing as requested
You can’t out run a Heckler & Kock "
Or most other firearms |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx "
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening."
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house."
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively. |
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"No.
We are not living in a dictatorship. Last I remember this was still a democracy.
You can’t stop stupid. Just slow it down.
Maybe try concentrating on protecting the vulnerable instead.
Desperate times need desperate measure and yes I’m all for disciplines to be enforced .... call in the boys and arm em ... take a look at Italy
Totally agree, arm them and clear the streets of the selfish morons
The morons will cause havoc and it’s time to abolish the snow flake attitudes
Good god!! Just read what you’ve said!!!
Get a grip!!!!
You want to ask a 19 year old soldier to shoot people dead for walking their dog???"
Never said anything about shooting ppl, u should work for the bbc ... I said they should take control and clamp down on the morons, the feral fuckers that terrorise estates the frighten old people .. the ones that could cause the most problems .... not the law abiding .. so please stop been sensational |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively."
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example"
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony! |
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If people want to complain about their civil liberties being infringed because they can't go to the pub...
Imagine...
Explaining to a child that he or she will grow up without a mother or father because that parent was an NHS worker who got infected treating a person who needed to go to the pub.
Your civil liberty could kill someone. |
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if you put troops on the streets it will give an excuse to the stone throwing yobs to cause trouble.
you just know some will look for it.
the issue here is parenting. its not governments role how to tell you to behave.
its your parents. and its there job to bring you up to show everyone the proper respect.
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!"
I think everyone understands that
But what we've seen today are families seemingly thinking they are on their hols
Buying ice creams from the kiosk
Queuing up for fish and chips
If we go out, we need to stay away from each other. And thats what people arent doing |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!"
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"They certainly should be patrolling the streets...Hopefully soon and give them live ammo "
we dont have an Army anymore we have a defence force the US marine corps are bigger than the whole of our armed forces put together so how with the commitments abroad that we have would they have the numbers top "patrol" the streets |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise."
Opening a window doesn't compensate for adequate Vitamin D of which sunlight is the best source nor does it provide adequate supply of fresh healthy air. And you'd need to do a shit load of squats to compensate for good cardiovascular activity.
Jogging on the spot isn't feasible as your neighbours downstairs won't appreciate you effectively jumping up and down on their ceiling!!
Besides, there is no hard evidence that an enforced lockdown would have significant effect to be a reasonable and rational measure. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise.
Opening a window doesn't compensate for adequate Vitamin D of which sunlight is the best source nor does it provide adequate supply of fresh healthy air. And you'd need to do a shit load of squats to compensate for good cardiovascular activity.
Jogging on the spot isn't feasible as your neighbours downstairs won't appreciate you effectively jumping up and down on their ceiling!!
Besides, there is no hard evidence that an enforced lockdown would have significant effect to be a reasonable and rational measure."
If you are in a block of flats and neighbours have their windows open to you are probably closer to airborne germs than you would be if you went for a walk lol |
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If people continue to ignore advice I think we will have no alternative than to give the Army powers to Police and put the country in Lockdown! A few days of on the spot fines taken directly from benefits or wages will soon sort out the riff raff! |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise.
Opening a window doesn't compensate for adequate Vitamin D of which sunlight is the best source nor does it provide adequate supply of fresh healthy air. And you'd need to do a shit load of squats to compensate for good cardiovascular activity.
Jogging on the spot isn't feasible as your neighbours downstairs won't appreciate you effectively jumping up and down on their ceiling!!
Besides, there is no hard evidence that an enforced lockdown would have significant effect to be a reasonable and rational measure."
Any exercise is better than none but hey, you are determined to look at the negatives. You may find a positive attitude may help you get through this challenging time better, but it's your life.
We will get back to doing squats and push ups and looking on the bright side of life. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise.
Opening a window doesn't compensate for adequate Vitamin D of which sunlight is the best source nor does it provide adequate supply of fresh healthy air. And you'd need to do a shit load of squats to compensate for good cardiovascular activity.
Jogging on the spot isn't feasible as your neighbours downstairs won't appreciate you effectively jumping up and down on their ceiling!!
Besides, there is no hard evidence that an enforced lockdown would have significant effect to be a reasonable and rational measure."
There's plenty of evidence that distancing slows the spread. |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank "
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!! |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
Looking at the news today it certainly doesn't look that way |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
Really? I mean just the panic buying alone suggests we're not all that astute. |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
Not sure what you are basing that on
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"ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!!!
Interested to know your reasons why not?
Not a good idea just for starters....."
But the people aren't abiding to what the government want us to do. Desperate times need desperate measures |
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I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
You have obviously had a very sheltered existence. The stupidity of the British Public never ceases to amaze me! |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
I think obtuse was the world you were looking for.. |
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"The general public are morons
We will be under house arrest before the weekend for sure
anyway I am off to perv and have a wank
I resent that, the British public are a lot more astute than you give them credit for....!!"
Ironically a fair number of them probably dont even know what astute means, and the behaviour of many only serves to drive a coach and horses through your perception.. |
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over a year ago
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet. yeah people seem to think that people going outside are avoiding advice and they arent cxx
It's actual medical advice to get outside and have some exercise as it boosts the immune system which would help someone fight off the infection.
This is one reason why it's I don't think we should enter into a full lockdown as the govt seems to be threatening.
People will have to open windows and exercise in the house.
That ain't gonna do people's mental health any favours. Plus some people don't have the luxury of having the space to do so effectively.
We do agree that those with mental health will struggle, but we can't believe that people don't have any room to do some form of exercise. It takes no extra room to do squats than it does to just stand still for example
There are a lot of people in places like London living in cramped bedsits for example.
Plus it's very beneficial to be in the fresh air walking or jogging, not possible if your cramped bedsits is on the fifteenth floor of a tower block with no balcony!
Yes it is, but surely opening a window is safer than going out. Even people in bedsits could do squats which is exercise. Or jog on the spot. It's difficult times, everyone needs to compromise.
Opening a window doesn't compensate for adequate Vitamin D of which sunlight is the best source nor does it provide adequate supply of fresh healthy air. And you'd need to do a shit load of squats to compensate for good cardiovascular activity.
Jogging on the spot isn't feasible as your neighbours downstairs won't appreciate you effectively jumping up and down on their ceiling!!
Besides, there is no hard evidence that an enforced lockdown would have significant effect to be a reasonable and rational measure.
Any exercise is better than none but hey, you are determined to look at the negatives. You may find a positive attitude may help you get through this challenging time better, but it's your life.
We will get back to doing squats and push ups and looking on the bright side of life."
I'm not actually being negative, just realistic. I do agree that people need to avoid crowded places as much as possible and practice safe distancing.
I'm concerned by the enthusiasm the govt appears to be showing towards taking away people's freedoms and liberties.
In addition to stopping the spread we need to consider the unexpected side effects (mental health, immune systems etc) as these could lead to problems down the line. It's pointless to lockdown totally only for the population to be released later in poor health.
Also there is the risk that after release from a total lockdown the infection rate spikes again as nobody has had the opportunity to build up an immunity/tolerance. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet.
Staying in is not even government advice yet, the official advice is to social distance if nobody on your household is showing symptoms and self isolate for 14 days if one person does.
It's actually beneficial to get out and get some fresh air and exercise to.boost your immune system and preserve mental health.
People are ignoring the social distancing thing though. The army could be brought to the places where crowds of people are still gathering.
It's no good closing the stable door after the horse has bolted."
well looking at the pictures in Scarborough today where it looked like many hundreds were enjoying their holiday.you wouldn't have thought there was any problem there. Yes social distancing is working.... not. What morons. |
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"You can't enforce advice. Staying indoors isn't compulsory yet.
Staying in is not even government advice yet, the official advice is to social distance if nobody on your household is showing symptoms and self isolate for 14 days if one person does.
It's actually beneficial to get out and get some fresh air and exercise to.boost your immune system and preserve mental health.
People are ignoring the social distancing thing though. The army could be brought to the places where crowds of people are still gathering.
It's no good closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.well looking at the pictures in Scarborough today where it looked like many hundreds were enjoying their holiday.you wouldn't have thought there was any problem there. Yes social distancing is working.... not. What morons. "
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Exactly. We live in the countryside with quiet roads. Today was like a motorway. So annoying. |
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This is a severe flu virus and not the Black Death !
Most of us will get this virus (if we haven’t already had it) and will just feel ill like we have the bad flu.
However there are some people that this virus affects more badly than others, again similarly to the flu.
The problem is that the NHS has been neglected for years by both political parties in the correct allocation of funds i.e. we have more pen-pushers than doctors, nurses and equipment and this virus has caught the NHS and the government on the hop !
To suggest military lockdown of our towns and cities is absolutely bonkers, wonder how the government will pay back all the borrowing that they are taking out to try and protect jobs when we have 25 million on the dole next year !
All the government is trying to do is spread the spread of this virus so that the overstretched NHS can cope; which ultimately is the real problem long term and not just this virus.
Everyone needs to get a grip, stay indoors, only go to work or the food shops as necessary and if you spend leisure time outdoors then social distance yourselves as Boris as asked for.
Even the thick fuckwits bred during Tony Blairs ‘classless society years’ should understand that, surely ! |
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Everyone needs to get a grip, stay indoors, only go to work or the food shops as necessary and if you spend leisure time outdoors then social distance yourselves as Boris as asked for.
Even the thick fuckwits bred during Tony Blairs ‘classless society years’ should understand that, surely ! "
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"Yeah go for it.
Just as long as they can drop my medication in, my shopping and set all my medical appointments at home
People still need to go outside! Just keeping distance."
Yes they do. But social distancing isn't happening because of selfish people. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"As we're not on lockdown of course they shouldn't. When we are on lockdown I suspect the police will struggle to cope with mass disobedience but also think social pressure will eliminate mass disobedience "
We will be in lock own before the end of the week which is sad but it has to be done I feel
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don't say that you cause more panic, The British Army is the best for overseas deployment and you say it's not big enough, believe me if it comes to Marshall law they deploy within hours, anyway our police service is one of the best in the world it's only the government that lag behind in
GREAT (UNITED) don't these words have any meaning, like kids coughing in faces of officers trying to get them to disperse crowds of them, I would get them and take them to a hospital and show them a patient fighting for there life's and a dead patient, bring back the old days ruled by discipline cccc |
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I've seen no advice telling me to stay indoors permanently. Over the past 36 hours I've left the apartment to do half an hour's shopping at a quiet time of day and made sure I've stayed well away from others, bar the cashiers where it's pretty impossible to keep 2m away.
I've got enough food in for this week so next weekend I'll try and repeat the trick. Until the government tell me I have to stay indoors I'll continue to self-distance while getting outside and trying to get some air in the lungs. Hoping to play golf alone tomorrow where there will be no need for me to be within 50 yards of anyone in a wide open space. For the rest of the week I'll try and get out for a few long walks late in the evening or early morning, again staying well away from others.
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"How about you start defending people instead of backing the morons who want the army to shoot people for walking their dog?!?!?!
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Why are you so scared of the army being used? Rules of engagement will certainly not include shooting unarmed civvies in the streets and I highly doubt any who got put out on the streets would even be carrying gats. Where you may have a problem is when troops helping communities start being targeted by the enemy within of which there are many within certain demographics. |
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"How about you start defending people instead of backing the morons who want the army to shoot people for walking their dog?!?!?!
Why are you so scared of the army being used? Rules of engagement will certainly not include shooting unarmed civvies in the streets and I highly doubt any who got put out on the streets would even be carrying gats. Where you may have a problem is when troops helping communities start being targeted by the enemy within of which there are many within certain demographics."
Well said mate, especially if it safes our country. |
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"I've seen no advice telling me to stay indoors permanently. Over the past 36 hours I've left the apartment to do half an hour's shopping at a quiet time of day and made sure I've stayed well away from others, bar the cashiers where it's pretty impossible to keep 2m away.
I've got enough food in for this week so next weekend I'll try and repeat the trick. Until the government tell me I have to stay indoors I'll continue to self-distance while getting outside and trying to get some air in the lungs. Hoping to play golf alone tomorrow where there will be no need for me to be within 50 yards of anyone in a wide open space. For the rest of the week I'll try and get out for a few long walks late in the evening or early morning, again staying well away from others.
Sounds sensible to me...
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"No we can't lockdown the whole of the uk we haven't got enough police or army to do that  "
Yep absolutely true.... Time for some realistic thinking. We are being panicked and spooked.... The resources we have should be used more productively. Subjugating the population does not sound like a good use of resources...
YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) .... |
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It’s a risk to put people who are meant to defend the country out there to have numbers hit by those going down and increasing the strain on the health services.
If the armed forces are on the streets it’ll be to help with logistics and medical treatment, not dispersing crowds or enforcing curfews. |
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"It’s a risk to put people who are meant to defend the country out there to have numbers hit by those going down and increasing the strain on the health services.
If the armed forces are on the streets it’ll be to help with logistics and medical treatment, not dispersing crowds or enforcing curfews."
Sense at last... |
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YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ...."
But they are not dying of something they are very likely to pass on to 4 other people! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ...."
What point are you trying to make with that? Italy had 800 deaths today from covid-19. We are about 2 weeks behind them.
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"YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ....
What point are you trying to make with that? Italy had 800 deaths today from covid-19. We are about 2 weeks behind them.
-Matt"
I’m pretty sure _lanemike is the guy you try to avoid talking to in the pub? |
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"YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ....
What point are you trying to make with that? Italy had 800 deaths today from covid-19. We are about 2 weeks behind them.-Matt"
Not "making any point"...simply an observation. |
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"YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ....
What point are you trying to make with that? Italy had 800 deaths today from covid-19. We are about 2 weeks behind them.
-Matt
I’m pretty sure _lanemike is the guy you try to avoid talking to in the pub?"
Errrr why ?? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"YES.....we are in a VERY SERIOUS situation but it worth remembering that around 1500 people A DAY die in Britain an average day (2018 stats) ....
What point are you trying to make with that? Italy had 800 deaths today from covid-19. We are about 2 weeks behind them.-Matt
Not "making any point"...simply an observation."
No, you were trying to make a point. Otherwise there would have been no reason to write what you wrote. You say it is worth remembering 1,500 people a day die... *why* is that worth remembering?
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Also point out in the region of 55 millions died world wide after WW One of influenza . Just quote the figures to bring some sort of perspective... No more, no less..."
At at the current rate of deaths, we will hit that globally in about 2 months time.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"No Sir....I do not think so. Again you are pressing the panic button....
Nope, just telling you what the stats are. Just as you were.
-Matt
OK Matt..... What are your recommendations...?? M"
Stay home. Go out only if necessary. Keep distance. Wash hand. Don’t touch face.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"OK...that is fine, we have already been told to do those things..."
And yet too many people are not. We needed to do this weeks ago ideally. But still right now we have people under the impression this is not a big deal because “X number of people die every year”.
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"You and I will disagree but think most are taking seriously and sticking to the recommendations...
I guess I see myself as an optimist.."
You obviously haven’t been following the news!
People rushing to visit the seeside! Mass campervan arrivals in Scotland. Pub brawls last night. I’m currently at work watching a group staggering home d*unk from my window! God knows where they have been! |
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"It’s a risk to put people who are meant to defend the country out there to have numbers hit by those going down and increasing the strain on the health services.
If the armed forces are on the streets it’ll be to help with logistics and medical treatment, not dispersing crowds or enforcing curfews."
The military can assist the men and women are trained to protect the queen and that she rules, against foreign and Rebellion, military hospitals a positive, most kids will be more interested in the equipment, we dealt with Northern Ireland affairs more volatile situation. I think it is on the cards at downing street, don't be afraid of these guys at the end of the day there here for our protection welcome home guys now we can get people working together, it's only temporary the quicker this is put in place the more people we save |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"You and I will disagree but think most are taking seriously and sticking to the recommendations...
I guess I see myself as an optimist.."
Most probavly are, but they don't make a good story for the tabloids. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"You and I will disagree but think most are taking seriously and sticking to the recommendations...
I guess I see myself as an optimist.."
I am an optimist too. But there is a difference with disagreeing on how we handle this situation and disagree about the realities of the situation. I posted what the statistics are and you said you disagree with them. There could be some subtle disagreements with how they are collected etc, but my gut feeling is you were trying to just dismiss them outright as a way to dismiss the reality of the situation.
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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two peeps who i know are in the t.a and have been told if they are still working wednesday will be there last day as they have to report in to find out how they gona be helping out. so if the t.a are being roped in expect to see soilders around some time this week.today is the day to shut down if we are two weeks behind italy personaly thibk they not going to do it until at least end of this week.looks like i might not be seeing my 8 yr old until this is all over.thank fuck for facetime |
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"The army isn’t big enough. "
The Army is about 110,000 including reservists. The Airforce and Navy around 35,000 each. That would more than make an impact. Obviously some are abroad, but the military could certainly be a significant asset.
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"Yep, very happy to see the Forces being used in a positive, constructive, helpful way.
Haha you've suddenly changed your mind
Errr.... No, no change of mind here. "
You said in this thread yesterday (please scroll back up), in capital letters that ABSOLOUTELY NOT' to the army coming in. Now you're saying yes to the army. That to us is a definite change of mind. |
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OK see what you mean, very happy to have their assistance with logistics etc. I am against them being used to attempt control the civil population. They are not trained for that and would probably not be comfortable doing it, just think Northern Ireland.
There will be those who will jump in and think it is a great idea, we are NOT China...!! |
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