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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Stats for United Kingdom look promising. Even though it is early days, I have recorded data from y :-
(only infections)
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15/3 - 1,395
16/3 - 1,551
17/3 - 1,950
18/3 - 2,642
19/3 - 3,269
20/3 - 3,983
2,558 in just under a week, if we follow guidelines given by the Health Authorities, I think we can beat this virus.
IT IS A SCARY SITUATION WE ARE IN, DON’T LIVE IN FEAR, LIVE WITH HOPE.
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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Can you put a disclaimer please?
The majority of cases will never be known as it is policy NOT to test people. So there is no definitive way to know how many people have had the infection nor who has recovered.
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"Stats for United Kingdom look promising. Even though it is early days, I have recorded data from y :-
(only infections)
I
15/3 - 1,395
16/3 - 1,551
17/3 - 1,950
18/3 - 2,642
19/3 - 3,269
20/3 - 3,983
2,558 in just under a week, if we follow guidelines given by the Health Authorities, I think we can beat this virus.
IT IS A SCARY SITUATION WE ARE IN, DON’T LIVE IN FEAR, LIVE WITH HOPE.
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The numbers will be significantly higher than this as previous poster said. In uk we are only testing those admitted to hospital. People self isolating are not being tested.
I work for nhs and this is not expected to peak for another 3-4 weeks. |
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"Stats for United Kingdom look promising. Even though it is early days, I have recorded data from y :-
(only infections)
I
15/3 - 1,395
16/3 - 1,551
17/3 - 1,950
18/3 - 2,642
19/3 - 3,269
20/3 - 3,983
2,558 in just under a week, if we follow guidelines given by the Health Authorities, I think we can beat this virus.
IT IS A SCARY SITUATION WE ARE IN, DON’T LIVE IN FEAR, LIVE WITH HOPE.
The numbers will be significantly higher than this as previous poster said. In uk we are only testing those admitted to hospital. People self isolating are not being tested.
I work for nhs and this is not expected to peak for another 3-4 weeks. "
We aren’t even testing everyone in hospital. Only in ICU |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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DISCLAIMER.... infected people in UK could be different to what I have recorded. My data is from Royallab Stats pandemic Live Counter.... Check it out for yourselves, I see it as a sound source for information on the current world situation.
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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago
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"They are only swabbing in ICU so those figures are way off.
Look at the growth in deaths. It is not promising at all"
Ahhh but if we had accurate infection rates I’m willing to bet the mortality rate isn’t as bad as it seems.
Yes 1 death is one too many but you have to look at the accurate mortality rate compared to those people actually infected and you can’t because we aren’t testing everyone.
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By *elly72Woman
over a year ago
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"UK stats are a joke compared to other countries.
In other countries you have symptoms you go get tested. They post the positive results.
In UK you have symptoms you stay at home and do nothing."
Yeah till it’s too late and you’re ready to die numbers are way off |
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"They are only swabbing in ICU so those figures are way off.
Look at the growth in deaths. It is not promising at all
Ahhh but if we had accurate infection rates I’m willing to bet the mortality rate isn’t as bad as it seems.
Yes 1 death is one too many but you have to look at the accurate mortality rate compared to those people actually infected and you can’t because we aren’t testing everyone.
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Mortality rates are misleading as well. As of yesterday 8 people who had died in our hospital had tested positive for Covid 19 but only one death was attributed to the disease. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is actually what could be construed as 'fake news' unfortunately.
UK is not testing anyone unless they end up in ICU.
There are probably 10's of, if not 100's of thousands of people in the UK currently infected. |
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"This is actually what could be construed as 'fake news' unfortunately.
UK is not testing anyone unless they end up in ICU.
There are probably 10's of, if not 100's of thousands of people in the UK currently infected. "
80% of the people who get infected will not need hospital treatment and will at worst have an uncomfortable couple of weeks of flu like symptoms. There is no reason to test these people, it would only take up valuable time and resources for nothing but statistical analysis. We need to concentrate on the 20% that will need hospital treatment. The deaths, the ease of transmission of the virus and the importance of controlling infection levels so that hospitals can cope and do not become overwhelmed is not fake news unfortunately. |
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Testing people allows them to know their status. If they have a cold or "normal flu" they do not need to worry. People who have developed immunity can venture out and return to work safe in the knowledge they are OK....
Other countries have more extensive testing programmes than ours. Why ?? |
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Testing across the whole population at the moment is also too costly, too time consuming and unnecessary in the short term. We only have a limited number of nhs staff and they need to be focused on the critically ill instead of testing people who might have it but have symptoms that they can cope with. There is also no hard evidence at the moment to suggest that once you have had it that you are immune to getting it again. |
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"Other countries deem it worth doing. Thought there was a self administered test kits coming out... "
They’re working on them, manufacturing and costs are still being discussed. It ideally would be beneficial for statistical purposes to have a better idea of how many people have been infected to give a clearer indication of how infectious the virus is. As you said earlier information is power. For the time being though it’s all about slowly containing the infection rate and protecting the most vulnerable amongst our society. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Testing people allows them to know their status. If they have a cold or "normal flu" they do not need to worry. People who have developed immunity can venture out and return to work safe in the knowledge they are OK....
Other countries have more extensive testing programmes than ours. Why ??"
The reality is this is no different from the cold or influenza - perhaps a slightly higher mortality rate but we don't even know that for sure. Why do we suddenly self isolate and test everyone when we have never done that before - EVER. Pandoras box is open at this stage. We need to accept that this is a new virus we have to live with. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Stats for United Kingdom look promising. Even though it is early days, I have recorded data from y :-
(only infections)
I
15/3 - 1,395
16/3 - 1,551
17/3 - 1,950
18/3 - 2,642
19/3 - 3,269
20/3 - 3,983
2,558 in just under a week, if we follow guidelines given by the Health Authorities, I think we can beat this virus.
IT IS A SCARY SITUATION WE ARE IN, DON’T LIVE IN FEAR, LIVE WITH HOPE.
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Dont forget the tens of thousands of cases undiagnosed |
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Testing people allows them to know their status. If they have a cold or "normal flu" they do not need to worry. People who have developed immunity can venture out and return to work safe in the knowledge they are OK....
Other countries have more extensive testing programmes than ours. Why ??
The reality is this is no different from the cold or influenza - perhaps a slightly higher mortality rate but we don't even know that for sure. Why do we suddenly self isolate and test everyone when we have never done that before - EVER. Pandoras box is open at this stage. We need to accept that this is a new virus we have to live with. "
The mortality rate of 1.8% sounds small but with our population of 68 million that means this virus would kill 1.24 million people. 16 to 20% would require hospital treatment which is much more than the hospitals can cope with. Imagine 13.6 million people being hospitalised! It’s not the bloody flu, do you really think that the whole world would go into lockdown and risk financial meltdown if it was no different from the flu! |
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The reality is this is no different from the cold or influenza - perhaps a slightly higher mortality rate but we don't even know that for sure. Why do we suddenly self isolate and test everyone when we have never done that before - EVER. Pandoras box is open at this stage. We need to accept that this is a new virus we have to live with. "
Oh yeah. Big fuss for nothing. |
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