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So 90 ED Departments across the country are now testing for the above on any bloods taken on all 16+ patients while in ED.. You can opt out of having blood tested but they aren't telling you they're checking/screening for it when they take the sample... Thoughts |
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
Don't worry. Found it on the NHS website.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/02/nhs-expands-hiv-opt-out-testing/
From the article.
"Under the programme, people visiting an ED are offered a discreet test which screens for the HIV, Hepatitis B and Hepatitis C viruses when full bloods are taken. If the test comes back positive for the HIV, Hepatitis B or Hepatitis C viruses, the person is offered specialist support and a treatment plan is put in place for them."
It says they're offered, so will be told. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Not what I've been told or on the posters in Ed
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Always worth looking into anything news story's you hear or read online.
The NHS website clearly states people will be offered the test, not that it's done behind their backs or is compulsory. If you read the article it's in 89 hospitals in locations where there are higher than normal rates of HIV.
"Latest NHS data shows, over seven million tests have been carried out, finding over 7,300 cases of newly diagnosed Blood Borne Viruses. Including over 1,000 new diagnoses of HIV, over 4,600 new diagnoses of Hepatitis B and over 1,600 new diagnoses of Hepatitis C via the BBV programme between April 2022- January 2025."
How can this not be a benefit to people who didn't know they were infected? 🤔 |
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The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
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"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
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What makes you think k they don't know?
Personal experience or something you heard/read somewhere.
As already stated, people are being offered the testing not having it done behind they're backs. They can opt out should they wish. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
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"Yes that's what the nhs web says but im telling you that is not the reality... "
Again. Is this your personal experience in an ED or just hearsay/anecdotal evidence?
I mean.....7 million tests have been done. I imagine you weren't there for all of them, surely? |
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"Yes that's what the nhs web says but im telling you that is not the reality...
Again. Is this your personal experience in an ED or just hearsay/anecdotal evidence?
I mean.....7 million tests have been done. I imagine you weren't there for all of them, surely? "
And i should imagine that's 7 million that didn't know they were having tested.. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
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"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...
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If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab? |
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"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
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If I’d consented to a blood test already I’d be quite happy for them to test it for anything. I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with their blood being screened for things that could be detrimental to their health |
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"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
If I’d consented to a blood test already I’d be quite happy for them to test it for anything. I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with their blood being screened for things that could be detrimental to their health "
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"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...
If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab? "
Its been highlighted to management
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"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
If I’d consented to a blood test already I’d be quite happy for them to test it for anything. I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with their blood being screened for things that could be detrimental to their health "
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By *bi HaiveMan 4 days ago
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"Yes its my personal experience work in ed dept.. And knowing many staff that also do...
If you actually work in an ED dept and rules on consent for testing aren't being adhered to.....have you reported this to them? Or just Fab?
Its been highlighted to management
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The right thing to do.
I still doubt the vast majority haven't been consulted. Having been in many an A&E over my years I've always either been required to fill forms out including giving details of any pre-existing conditions (done on ipads by triage nurses now) or been asked questions once being assessed. Including questions re HIV status.
But that's my experience across maybe half a dozen different hospitals. 🤷♂️ |
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If you Google hiv testing in A&Es posters, you'll see the poster image.
It states it is routine but you can opt out.
When you have blood taken in hospital to investigate differential diagnoses (doctors have theories and seek the blood tests to confirm/rule out/ delve deeper), you do not ask what they are screening for (though you have the right). You tend to accept that they are SPENDING MONEY on tests for your health's sake. This is no different apart from the fact that something has become a public health concern in certain areas (something they want to reduce). |
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I think when you donate blood they screen the blood for lots of different things as well.
One time I went and didn't even get as far as the screening and it turned out from my tests that I had pernicious anemia.
Had I not gone to donate blood regularly, I'm not sure when I would have found out and what damage may have been done.
Luckily there was no damage and I just have injections every three months to top up my b12 |
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"The point I making is local ed aren't telling people, its accepted by having blood taken that you automatically consent. when pt arent knowing its being tested. Health care is by consent. How can you consent when you don't know...
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Why wouldn't you want to know? |
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I have my bloods done every 6 months, (not on the NHS), but would want to know if I had an diseases or markers for sure!
If you are having bloods done then surely you are consenting to them checking your health and would want to know if there was any issues, that's sort of the whole point of them! |
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