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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 5 weeks ago

Surrey

I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

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By (user no longer on site) 5 weeks ago

That’s still to happen

Gates has yet to do the thirteen rituals.Then the mass deaths will begin and with all his followers dead and only his opposition left he’ll rule as a tyrant(somehow)

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By *usie pTV/TS 5 weeks ago

taunton

There has been a long time saying; believe nothing of what you are told and half of what you see, probably needs updating now AI is here to ony 1 percent of what you see.

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By *ongAndThick123Man 5 weeks ago

Leeds


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover.

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By *ommenhimCouple 5 weeks ago

wigan


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too!

I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role!

My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone.

I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect.

Yours

Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose)

"

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. "

Bingo

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By *andsome_MeeeMan 5 weeks ago

London

A large proportion of fab users are uneducated and enjoy the collective pats on the back they give each other as they spout conspiracy theorist rubbish.

Vaccines are not drugs. They are not ticking time bombs. If anyone was going to experience an adverse effect from them it would be when they were first administered, not years later.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover. "

Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca.

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 5 weeks ago

Surrey

Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?"

Did you search the data?

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By *ndrew CareyMan 5 weeks ago

Peterborough, Cambridgeshire & Lincolnshire


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

I'm still waiting to get 6G.

Bill Gates needs to hurry up

On a serious note, a lot of people do not understand science and have been unfortunately manipulated by grifters.

Best way to win them over is with patience and education. Mocking them will not help.

Although teasing them from time to time is hilarious.

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By *melie LALWoman 5 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too!

I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role!

My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone.

I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect.

Yours

Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose)

"

100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery.

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By *melie LALWoman 5 weeks ago

Peterborough


"A large proportion of fab users are uneducated and enjoy the collective pats on the back they give each other as they spout conspiracy theorist rubbish.

Vaccines are not drugs. They are not ticking time bombs. If anyone was going to experience an adverse effect from them it would be when they were first administered, not years later."

Oh dear, you're amongst the uneducated. A vaccine is a medication.

As for the last sentence, for people receiving boosters, again you can be incorrect. Read about anaphylaxis.

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By *oandstephCouple 5 weeks ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover.

Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca."

check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie

Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍"

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie

Where is all of the trial data please? Because I’d certainly like to read that.

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie

Also the government lied about it not having animal parts in it, when as I’ve mentioned squalene is from deep sea shark liver, it is used in vaccines as adjuvants which help the medication travel through the body more efficiently.

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie

This is from the manufacturer of Astra Zeneca’s own website from 2021.

Vaccine ingredients

Quicklinks

• Active ingredients

• Added ingredients:

• Aluminium, an adjuvant

• MF59 (squalene oil), an adjuvant.

• Thiomersal, also called Thimerosal

• Gelatine

• Sorbitol and other stabilisers

• Emulsifiers

• Taste improvers

• Products used in vaccine manufacture:

• Antibiotics

• Egg proteins (ovalbumin)

• Yeast proteins

• Latex (in packaging)

• Formaldehyde

• Acidity regulators

• Growing the active ingredients:

• Human cell strains, animal cell strains and

GMOs

• Recombinant DNA technology

• Bovine products

• Other growing media

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020. "

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge. "

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊"

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally.

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By *oandstephCouple 5 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. "

certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info"

Who'd trust such an antivaxer who's spread clear lies, that likely result in deaths, for vulnerable children, who are powerless, when adults have all the power

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By *oandstephCouple 5 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Who'd trust such an antivaxer who's spread clear lies, that likely result in deaths, for vulnerable children, who are powerless, when adults have all the power "

im sure he will only be releasing docs and files related to the vaccines lockdowns and the testing and data ect im not intrested in his opinion just the "facts" which im sure everybody else is too whether is from a pro or anti vax person makes no difference, we just want the hidden truths

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By *d68Man 5 weeks ago

Airdrie

“Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally.”

Considering it’s no less than a decade for a vaccine be to taken through all phases of testing. Covid-19, hasn’t been about for ten years, so how can a vaccine been out through all of testing? That goes for all the covid vaccines. The example I gave date for was for Astra-Zeneca. You know the one they released that was the best thing since sliced bread? I just want the data, long term/ short term so I can make an informed decision for myself. I’m not trying to sway anyone, one way or the other. However, when covid was still a serious issue. It wasn’t very nice to be treated like pariah, because I wasn’t immunised. The red flag for me was no legal recourse if the vaccine caused serious side effects.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover.

Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca.check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year "

Look up the data. You will see 2020 has easily the highest excess deaths then 2021 then 2022 then 2023 so far 2024 has have less deaths than expected. If you are look an absolute death numbers remember the population size is increasing

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍"

Only one current covid vaccination has squalane in, sanofi pasteur I.e gsk. Most squalane doesn't come from animals, in this case sharks.

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By *oandstephCouple 5 weeks ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I’m pro vaccine but your statement can easily be disputed because excess deaths have risen since the pandemic. Particularly amongst the middle aged (aka people you wouldn’t expect to see).

And it can’t be fully explained, as much as people want to try and explain it away as simply “people not gonna to the doctors”, it seems there’s no evidence backing up that claim.

Personally I had a weird experience with the vaccine. And a friend of mine has severe vaccine injury - it induced an inflammatory disease that doctors can’t treat. It’s sad to see.

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn’t gloat or act smug or any of that. Because the truth is, that although it was great to have a vaccine, it did damage some people and there may be potentially more to uncover.

Whilst I can concur with a lot of what you say but excess deaths in the uk haven't really increased. There was a small increase in 2022 it flat lined 2023 and it a lot lower generally in 2024. The excess deaths in 2022 are a fraction of the 2020 and 2021, 2020 pretty much vaccine free. Google uk excess deaths and there is nice graph from statisca.check ons and you will see that excess deaths habe increased from 2021 onwards just slightly higher and higher each year

Look up the data. You will see 2020 has easily the highest excess deaths then 2021 then 2022 then 2023 so far 2024 has have less deaths than expected. If you are look an absolute death numbers remember the population size is increasing "

yep sorry 2020 mostly april were massive numbers and as for the population who knows approx what were at nowadays bet were not far off 80mill

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 5 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

Only one current covid vaccination has squalane in, sanofi pasteur I.e gsk. Most squalane doesn't come from animals, in this case sharks."

Yes but there were lots of words, not saying very much, nor that was based on current knowledge and scientific practice, so it perhaps might get to sound a little alarming to some.

Squalene, which might sound a bit scary, despite it being in much of life, across plants, fungi many animals and it being over 10% of human skin lipids is also used in many personal care items, including shampoo, moisturiser and more. We have it within us and use it on us.

It's a pity that so much has been covered, just in this forum, though it's missed by many, who get to post bits and pieces, though lacking in contextual data and contemporary relevance too.

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By *ommenhimCouple 4 weeks ago

wigan


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too!

I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role!

My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone.

I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect.

Yours

Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose)

100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery."

Ah yes … a full medical recovery… obviously! That appears to be a different measure. Please don’t reply!

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Wait! Just wait another one of those cotton picking minutes…. Someone responded with some adverse effects … others have too!

I and no one I know have had significantly adverse effects from not taking a vaccine. I do however know someone who suffered Guillan-Barres syndrome following the vaccine to which she was advised,as she embarked on recovery, she’d make a 100% recovery.. although she would not return to her job which required a high level of dexterity… my understanding of 100% recovery may be different …but I have no medical training! She’s doing well in a different role!

My mum had the vaccine and was hospitalised, with COVID but largely due to not eating for a week as she was nauseous and didn’t tell anyone.

I don’t think your rabble rousing post was particularly well thought out, naive at best, with its acute viewpoint and failure to acknowledge any detrimental effect.

Yours

Unvaxed and happy to be ( and couldn’t give a shite what you choose)

100% recovery is an unrealistic exact measure. You would expect to return to how you were before the condition. Full recovery could allow small anomalies such as losing an artistic ability, say 98%. Obviously what they mean is a full medical recovery.

Ah yes … a full medical recovery… obviously! That appears to be a different measure. Please don’t reply! "

Tough, I am.

I was merely pointing out the importance of language and that we, as HCPs, aren't always aware.

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By *d68Man 4 weeks ago

Airdrie

Yes there is Squalene in those products, however all of the products you’ve listed are not administered subcutaneously are they?

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 4 weeks ago

Surrey

A man had been tasked with bringing food to a starving city and had been given a truck to do the job.

This was how food deliveries had always been made but the man knew better. He’d heard that trucks had an iffy safety record: sometimes the wheels fell off or the engines exploded, killing the driver.

“No way, I’m going in that truck,” he said. “Much safer to carry the food in person.”

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

Soon the other drivers heard what the man had to say. Sometimes the wheels fell off the truck or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way I’m going in that truck,” they said. “Much better to carry the food in person.”

(In fact what the man had said was at least partly true. Very occasionally the trucks did spontaneously combust - hurting or very occasionally killing the driver. Though this was definitely not a good thing - and tragic though each and every death was and as reprehensible as the truck manufacturer was - it did happen only extremely rarely.)

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

So the truck driver and all the other truck drivers began the slow, painful process of lugging the food to the distant city in person. They crossed rivers, climbed mountains, slogged their way through vast, empty expanses.

And still the people starved.

Eventually the man and all the other truck drivers made it to the city gates. But by that time all the food was rotten and all the people in the town had starved.

From this, the man learned a lesson: that sometimes, when necessity demands it, good enough is better than perfect, especially if it saves lives.

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By *heGateKeeperMan 4 weeks ago

Stratford

Your thread title is doing way too much

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"A man had been tasked with bringing food to a starving city and had been given a truck to do the job.

This was how food deliveries had always been made but the man knew better. He’d heard that trucks had an iffy safety record: sometimes the wheels fell off or the engines exploded, killing the driver.

“No way, I’m going in that truck,” he said. “Much safer to carry the food in person.”

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

Soon the other drivers heard what the man had to say. Sometimes the wheels fell off the truck or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way I’m going in that truck,” they said. “Much better to carry the food in person.”

(In fact what the man had said was at least partly true. Very occasionally the trucks did spontaneously combust - hurting or very occasionally killing the driver. Though this was definitely not a good thing - and tragic though each and every death was and as reprehensible as the truck manufacturer was - it did happen only extremely rarely.)

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

So the truck driver and all the other truck drivers began the slow, painful process of lugging the food to the distant city in person. They crossed rivers, climbed mountains, slogged their way through vast, empty expanses.

And still the people starved.

Eventually the man and all the other truck drivers made it to the city gates. But by that time all the food was rotten and all the people in the town had starved.

From this, the man learned a lesson: that sometimes, when necessity demands it, good enough is better than perfect, especially if it saves lives."

and that driver knew what the risks were

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By *ackformore100Man 4 weeks ago

Tin town


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives.

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By *ackformore100Man 4 weeks ago

Tin town


"A man had been tasked with bringing food to a starving city and had been given a truck to do the job.

This was how food deliveries had always been made but the man knew better. He’d heard that trucks had an iffy safety record: sometimes the wheels fell off or the engines exploded, killing the driver.

“No way, I’m going in that truck,” he said. “Much safer to carry the food in person.”

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

Soon the other drivers heard what the man had to say. Sometimes the wheels fell off the truck or the engines exploded, killing the driver. “No way I’m going in that truck,” they said. “Much better to carry the food in person.”

(In fact what the man had said was at least partly true. Very occasionally the trucks did spontaneously combust - hurting or very occasionally killing the driver. Though this was definitely not a good thing - and tragic though each and every death was and as reprehensible as the truck manufacturer was - it did happen only extremely rarely.)

Meanwhile the people in the city were starving.

So the truck driver and all the other truck drivers began the slow, painful process of lugging the food to the distant city in person. They crossed rivers, climbed mountains, slogged their way through vast, empty expanses.

And still the people starved.

Eventually the man and all the other truck drivers made it to the city gates. But by that time all the food was rotten and all the people in the town had starved.

From this, the man learned a lesson: that sometimes, when necessity demands it, good enough is better than perfect, especially if it saves lives."

Is that from the gaza section of today's news?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives. "

Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives.

Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them."

unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives.

Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do "

That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives.

Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do

That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer."

thats fine if thats your opinion i and others may disagree with some of your opinion but hey ho thats a forum for you

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I mean obviously the choice of language is inflammatory and provocative. But in response yes. There have been deaths and illness caused by the assorted covid vaccines. Not sure how many you think is enough that they be legitimately discussed and enquired about nor how many are required before any conspiracy is evidenced. Whether they are labelled as conspiracy or unfortunate collateral / friendly fire is surely moot of you're making a joke out of people who have lost their lives.

Whilst what you say is broadly correct. People have become ill and even died from covid vaccines. But there is general misunderstanding of absolute risk vs risk. Yes there is a risk taking a vaccination, as there is taking any medication, but to get the absolute risk you need to consider the risk of not taking it. The absolute risk of taking a covid vaccination is lower than not taking it for pretty much the whole population. Obviously the gap get smaller the younger someone is. Of course I respect anyone's right not to take any vaccine, but ideally they should balance the facts not get them from YouTube grifters. Obviously getting a vaccine is a pain, needles feeling poorly for 24 hours etc,so can totally understand people not wanting them.unfortunatly nowadays theres no where to go for facts just one side vs the other and a a few months or year later and one side proves the other side wrong. Nobody can prove how safe or effective the jab is, the only thing people have is there experience of having covid and is it that bad they feel the need of adding another risk by taking the jab or just letting their body do what it needs to do

That is what mean about absolute risk. Just letting your body do what it needs comes with risk too. Especially at the beginning when no one had natural immunity, the absolute risk was much much higher not getting vaccinated, you were much more likely to die or be seriously ill unvaccinated. Now pretty much everyone has had covid at least once and has some sort of natural immunity the absolute risk is a lot closer.thats fine if thats your opinion i and others may disagree with some of your opinion but hey ho thats a forum for you "

Your opinion vs fact

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By *essie1966Man 4 weeks ago

woodmansay

Eat well, live well, exercise, avoid vaping, smoking and just take of your body. Fuck big pharma and their dodgy jabs.

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Eat well, live well, exercise, avoid vaping, smoking and just take of your body. Fuck big pharma..."

Both have their place

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By *hecatinthehatMan 4 weeks ago

Notts

Absolutely, I'm certainly pro vaccine and had three jabs , but within minutes of having the Pfizer booster my heart went into AF , so now on long term meds to prevent it happening again. No explanation of why. Maybe it triggered an underlying problem.

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By *hecatinthehatMan 4 weeks ago

Notts

Actually if you read the science, it only takes around 10 years because of the financial process the manufacturer has to go through. They propose a vaccine, it may take 2 years to get finance for that , it then goes through various stages of testing and each step has to be submitted for finance. Most of the vaccines were around over a decade ago in their base form. The Pfizer for instance was used for Ebola. It's only the DNA profile that is altered to suit the new virus. The book vaxxers explains this in great detail.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Actually if you read the science, it only takes around 10 years because of the financial process the manufacturer has to go through. They propose a vaccine, it may take 2 years to get finance for that , it then goes through various stages of testing and each step has to be submitted for finance. Most of the vaccines were around over a decade ago in their base form. The Pfizer for instance was used for Ebola. It's only the DNA profile that is altered to suit the new virus. The book vaxxers explains this in great detail."
and weve ll heard the horrow stories from some of the ebola vaccines with villages now sterile hopefully it werent the same base model they used

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Actually if you read the science, it only takes around 10 years because of the financial process the manufacturer has to go through. They propose a vaccine, it may take 2 years to get finance for that , it then goes through various stages of testing and each step has to be submitted for finance. Most of the vaccines were around over a decade ago in their base form. The Pfizer for instance was used for Ebola. It's only the DNA profile that is altered to suit the new virus. The book vaxxers explains this in great detail.and weve ll heard the horrow stories from some of the ebola vaccines with villages now sterile hopefully it werent the same base model they used "

There hasn't been any major problem with the ebola vaccine are you not confusing the effects of the actual ebola disease which let's be honest is very very unpleasant.

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By *hamrocker23Man 4 weeks ago

Town

Excess deaths due to cardiovascular disease and other heart related issues are through the roof since 2013 and also on the monthly charts for this year. Myocarditis etc are rampant. Young people having heart attacks and other heart issues.

There's 100% a lot going on OP.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Actually if you read the science, it only takes around 10 years because of the financial process the manufacturer has to go through. They propose a vaccine, it may take 2 years to get finance for that , it then goes through various stages of testing and each step has to be submitted for finance. Most of the vaccines were around over a decade ago in their base form. The Pfizer for instance was used for Ebola. It's only the DNA profile that is altered to suit the new virus. The book vaxxers explains this in great detail.and weve ll heard the horrow stories from some of the ebola vaccines with villages now sterile hopefully it werent the same base model they used

There hasn't been any major problem with the ebola vaccine are you not confusing the effects of the actual ebola disease which let's be honest is very very unpleasant."

nope the vaccine and depends where u look to what you will find

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Actually if you read the science, it only takes around 10 years because of the financial process the manufacturer has to go through. They propose a vaccine, it may take 2 years to get finance for that , it then goes through various stages of testing and each step has to be submitted for finance. Most of the vaccines were around over a decade ago in their base form. The Pfizer for instance was used for Ebola. It's only the DNA profile that is altered to suit the new virus. The book vaxxers explains this in great detail.and weve ll heard the horrow stories from some of the ebola vaccines with villages now sterile hopefully it werent the same base model they used

There hasn't been any major problem with the ebola vaccine are you not confusing the effects of the actual ebola disease which let's be honest is very very unpleasant."

It's peculiar that people throw up all kinds of criticism against some medication but don't provide a workable, effective alternative, such as for Ebola, in war torn Democratic Republic of Congo. With vaccine effectiveness above 80%, I'm assuming that they'd prefer to not take their own chances against the illness, if they were in DRC.

But, of course, this is deflection from the subject of the thread.

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By *igNick1381Man 4 weeks ago

BRIDGEND

I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something "

👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

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By *ongAndThick123Man 4 weeks ago

Leeds


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing "

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020"

thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

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By *ongAndThick123Man 4 weeks ago

Leeds


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment "

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

"

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

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By *ongAndThick123Man 4 weeks ago

Leeds


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer "

So in other words, you did know people who died from it.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

So in other words, you did know people who died from it."

no thats like saying i know marge on the tills at asda or asking an undertaker if he knows anyone who died 🤦

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By *ongAndThick123Man 4 weeks ago

Leeds


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

So in other words, you did know people who died from it.no thats like saying i know marge on the tills at asda or asking an undertaker if he knows anyone who died 🤦"

The mental gymnastics you’re doing is crazy. “They died in a hospital so it didn’t count” 😆

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By *ichardHereMan 4 weeks ago

London

Srtawman agrmuent

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

So in other words, you did know people who died from it.no thats like saying i know marge on the tills at asda or asking an undertaker if he knows anyone who died 🤦

The mental gymnastics you’re doing is crazy. “They died in a hospital so it didn’t count” 😆 "

haha yeah because thats what i said didnt i id read my quotes twice before you reply

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By *ongAndThick123Man 4 weeks ago

Leeds


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

So in other words, you did know people who died from it.no thats like saying i know marge on the tills at asda or asking an undertaker if he knows anyone who died 🤦

The mental gymnastics you’re doing is crazy. “They died in a hospital so it didn’t count” 😆 haha yeah because thats what i said didnt i id read my quotes twice before you reply "

I read it all. You just have to accept that it was deadly at the start. It’s not hard to do.

If 99.9% of people survived the L strain then it wouldn’t have even been noticed when broke out and only 6000 people would have died in the last 4 years.

It’s ok to admit you’re wrong

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

It didn’t have a 99.9% survival rate at the start. That’s what got people’s backs up. Personally I knew of 7 people who died from it and 10 who were hospitalised (including the 7 mentioned).

4 of those who died were men my age. And sadly 3 of those men who died had also said the “I’m fit and healthy” line before they died and seemed to enjoy breaking lockdown rules. One even refused to go to hospital because he said the virus isn’t real.

Sure it’s a weak virus now. It wasn’t during 2020thats what the media and health professionals quoted, im not saying it werent deadly or made up and us personaly font know a single person who died from it other than at her work but nodody outside a medical environment

That simply isn’t true. The L Strain (initial Covid) had a death rate of 6% for women and 7.2% for men.

No idea what you mean by “nobody outside a medical environment” as well as “don’t know a single person who died from it”. The two statements seem to contradict one another.

we dont know a single person that died from covid, but the wife is a nurse and some did at work "in a hospital"?? That a bit clearer

So in other words, you did know people who died from it.no thats like saying i know marge on the tills at asda or asking an undertaker if he knows anyone who died 🤦

The mental gymnastics you’re doing is crazy. “They died in a hospital so it didn’t count” 😆 haha yeah because thats what i said didnt i id read my quotes twice before you reply

I read it all. You just have to accept that it was deadly at the start. It’s not hard to do.

If 99.9% of people survived the L strain then it wouldn’t have even been noticed when broke out and only 6000 people would have died in the last 4 years.

It’s ok to admit you’re wrong "

im only repeating what were said on the news 👌

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By *rettygreenxxxMan 4 weeks ago

airdrie

There will be no wanking over this stream of messages..christ 🤣

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 4 weeks ago

Surrey

Most challenging wank I’ve ever had.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Stockport


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info"

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you. "

im not sure what people are against, its not his scrapbook collection or daily emotion book apperantly going to be released, its the test studies fules and documents from the very same vaccines that some of you are pumped full of so surely there isnt gping to be any problems as is "safe and effective" so surely mr kennedy is going to be a hero for pro vax releasing all the proof of how safe and effective they are????

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you. "

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. "

total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 4 weeks ago

Surrey

Some world-class trolling going on here. Excellent work and top marks to all those concerned. You do get to pass go and you do get to collect £200 (but only if you’ve received your vaccination first).

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Some world-class trolling going on here. Excellent work and top marks to all those concerned. You do get to pass go and you do get to collect £200 (but only if you’ve received your vaccination first)."
thought it were mcdonalds they giving as an incentive to get jabbed not 200 quid

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing "

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer).

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By *igNick1381Man 4 weeks ago

BRIDGEND


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer)."

7 million death's on a planet of 8 billion is well under 1%

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer)."

232k deaths up until april 2024 so average of 60,000 a year which works out around 1%

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook? "

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

"

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer).

7 million death's on a planet of 8 billion is well under 1%

"

Did you bother looking at the recorded number of those who got covid? It is a tad under 1%. Fatality percentage did reduce from 2020 to whenever they stopped recording.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer).

7 million death's on a planet of 8 billion is well under 1%

Did you bother looking at the recorded number of those who got covid? It is a tad under 1%. Fatality percentage did reduce from 2020 to whenever they stopped recording."

but didnt it say 99.9 survival rate not infection rate??

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect "

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple."

they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

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By (user no longer on site) 4 weeks ago

Let’s try get some normalcy in to the conversation here…

There’s always crazy conspiracies for things like this where people on both sides believe their agenda and find stuff from data that isn’t there.

Probably blown out of proportion the virus itself but needed the vaccine to lower the effects and help with herd immunity for the vulnerable. I was at an event 18months ago that had an outbreak and the ones who wasn’t vaccinated or had it previously, their symptoms wasn’t as bad as the ones who hadn’t / have not. Got a free hotel for an extra few days though in another country.

There will always be reactions to a vaccine, especially one rushed at scales and delivered to people with different genetics and genes. We probably won’t know any underlying health issues the virus or vaccine caused because it’s been that long now and symptoms will merge with something else, either related or unrelated and will be undetected now.

People just need to move on… it happened, nothing can be changed. Just stop the fear mongering and agenda pushing and put the effort in other places.

Thing that’s more worrying here is no one has called out the OP for his racist undertone of a title thread…

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By *ommenhimCouple 4 weeks ago

wigan


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer)."

That’s deaths of recorded cases … around 1% … 0.09% of total population died which is matched by the current years total for deaths of children under 5! . Unrecorded cases are plentiful… I can attribute a few to myself alone … I can extend that further if I count my household and further still with family included.

You seem very close to the subject… May I ask… initially, the hospital treatment for Covid… is current medical knowledge identifying any significant failures in the treatment of patients? How did the treatment change over time ? May the guidance provided and followed now be contrary to best practice? Potentially, was the treatment provided likely to result in organ failure and thereby leading to death ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷"

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple.

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer).

That’s deaths of recorded cases … around 1% … 0.09% of total population died which is matched by the current years total for deaths of children under 5! . Unrecorded cases are plentiful… I can attribute a few to myself alone … I can extend that further if I count my household and further still with family included.

You seem very close to the subject… May I ask… initially, the hospital treatment for Covid… is current medical knowledge identifying any significant failures in the treatment of patients? How did the treatment change over time ? May the guidance provided and followed now be contrary to best practice? Potentially, was the treatment provided likely to result in organ failure and thereby leading to death ? "

Due to my health issues, I was not allowed to return to uni and placements until after the second wave. For guidelines, you can look at the NICE website.

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By *aven3Man 4 weeks ago

Stoford

It's estimated that twenty million died from the jab,and many times that. suffer from side effects.Then there is the rise in excess deaths,etc.

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By *lik and PaulCouple 4 weeks ago

cahoots


"It's estimated that twenty million died from the jab,and many times that. suffer from side effects.Then there is the rise in excess deaths,etc."

According to the European medicines agency it's 11,448 although they can't confirm if the vaccine was the cause in all cases.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"It's estimated that twenty million died from the jab,and many times that. suffer from side effects.Then there is the rise in excess deaths,etc."

Any link for that number of deaths. Uk excess deaths now are way lower than during the pandemic. There was a rise in total deaths in 2023, so far in 2024 deaths are lower than expected.

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By (user no longer on site) 4 weeks ago


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

Probably one of the lowest IQ post I've read in a long time.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. "

you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something "

The vaccine causing autism lie has been throughly debunked many many times. Andrew Wakefield who first invented the grift has been struck off because of it. His "research" on it been throughly ripped apart mainly because quite a lot of it he simply just made up.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

The vaccine causing autism lie has been throughly debunked many many times. Andrew Wakefield who first invented the grift has been struck off because of it. His "research" on it been throughly ripped apart mainly because quite a lot of it he simply just made up."

yep and weve seen this exact debunks and fact checkers over the last few years and exactly who owns and funds them

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By *exleybuffboyMan 4 weeks ago

sidcup and Spain

Cotton picking? What are you? From Alabama?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something "

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. "

and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

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By *bro24Man 4 weeks ago

Middlesbrough


"Let’s try get some normalcy in to the conversation here…

There’s always crazy conspiracies for things like this where people on both sides believe their agenda and find stuff from data that isn’t there.

Probably blown out of proportion the virus itself but needed the vaccine to lower the effects and help with herd immunity for the vulnerable. I was at an event 18months ago that had an outbreak and the ones who wasn’t vaccinated or had it previously, their symptoms wasn’t as bad as the ones who hadn’t / have not. Got a free hotel for an extra few days though in another country.

There will always be reactions to a vaccine, especially one rushed at scales and delivered to people with different genetics and genes. We probably won’t know any underlying health issues the virus or vaccine caused because it’s been that long now and symptoms will merge with something else, either related or unrelated and will be undetected now.

People just need to move on… it happened, nothing can be changed. Just stop the fear mongering and agenda pushing and put the effort in other places.

Thing that’s more worrying here is no one has called out the OP for his racist undertone of a title thread…"

You weapon lmao

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard? "

You've been given the facts.

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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard? "

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?"

thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the two

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the two"

but im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS" "

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link."

maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab "

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion "

haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Central


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab "

But this is all based on the simple facts that 1 person lied about Autism. And because of his lies, significant time and resources have been invested in research of what his fraudulent claims were. The evidence is crystal clear, there's absolutely no risk of Autism, connected to the MMR vaccines.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila "

No what I meant I can blame my hangover on the tequila drank 3 months ago rather than the 2 pints of beer I drank this afternoon. Serious there is no connection between autism and any vaccination. Read about the grift andrew Wakefield tried to pull on it. Whatever issues you have with a particular vaccination none have any effect on autism. In fact if you at the bare statistics, obvious that would have massive bias, children unvaccinated are more likely to be autistic or have learning difficulties. I need to say that not taking a vaccination make a child more likely to have difficulties. It all about sampling and cause and effect.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila

No what I meant I can blame my hangover on the tequila drank 3 months ago rather than the 2 pints of beer I drank this afternoon. Serious there is no connection between autism and any vaccination. Read about the grift andrew Wakefield tried to pull on it. Whatever issues you have with a particular vaccination none have any effect on autism. In fact if you at the bare statistics, obvious that would have massive bias, children unvaccinated are more likely to be autistic or have learning difficulties. I need to say that not taking a vaccination make a child more likely to have difficulties. It all about sampling and cause and effect."

oh well lets have a few jabs then and make all the kids smarter if thats what the crystal clear data's proves 🤦

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila

No what I meant I can blame my hangover on the tequila drank 3 months ago rather than the 2 pints of beer I drank this afternoon. Serious there is no connection between autism and any vaccination. Read about the grift andrew Wakefield tried to pull on it. Whatever issues you have with a particular vaccination none have any effect on autism. In fact if you at the bare statistics, obvious that would have massive bias, children unvaccinated are more likely to be autistic or have learning difficulties. I need to say that not taking a vaccination make a child more likely to have difficulties. It all about sampling and cause and effect.oh well lets have a few jabs then and make all the kids smarter if thats what the crystal clear data's proves 🤦"

The data doesn't say that either. Remember cause and effect.

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By *oandstephCouple 4 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila

No what I meant I can blame my hangover on the tequila drank 3 months ago rather than the 2 pints of beer I drank this afternoon. Serious there is no connection between autism and any vaccination. Read about the grift andrew Wakefield tried to pull on it. Whatever issues you have with a particular vaccination none have any effect on autism. In fact if you at the bare statistics, obvious that would have massive bias, children unvaccinated are more likely to be autistic or have learning difficulties. I need to say that not taking a vaccination make a child more likely to have difficulties. It all about sampling and cause and effect.oh well lets have a few jabs then and make all the kids smarter if thats what the crystal clear data's proves 🤦

The data doesn't say that either. Remember cause and effect."

some think otherwise https://youtu.be/ZqizB87kkhc?si=mmTNNntcJ6gnM8hh

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By *melie LALWoman 4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Probably one of the lowest IQ post I've read in a long time. "

Says the guy who thinks covid was "a massive scam".

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 4 weeks ago

Durham


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

The autism vaccination link there are probably thousands of links to prove it's bullocks. Thankfully Wakefield recorded enough stuff to prove he simply made it up to try and make money. He wasn't particularly clever about it either. If you are looking at FACTS there is zero and I mean zero scientific evidence that there is a link between any vaccine and autism. That doesn't there isn't a link between autism and vaccination just no one and I mean no one has found a link yet. Thankfully due to Wakefield there have been loads of studies and no have found any link.maybe not me or you arent qualified enough to know anyway but there is parents out there adament their childs behaviour changed after mostly the mmr jab

I am more than qualified to judge research papers. Cause is not effect that is why you have academic studies. I drank tequila a few months ago that is the cause of my hangover tomorrow. If you use feelings to come to conclusions instead of actual data you will generally come to the wrong conclusion haha with your replies on recent posts and questions you certainly aren't and if you drank tequila now and had a hangover in the morning then it would be quite realistic to beleive it were the cause or even if you had a continuous hangover from the moment u drank tequila

No what I meant I can blame my hangover on the tequila drank 3 months ago rather than the 2 pints of beer I drank this afternoon. Serious there is no connection between autism and any vaccination. Read about the grift andrew Wakefield tried to pull on it. Whatever issues you have with a particular vaccination none have any effect on autism. In fact if you at the bare statistics, obvious that would have massive bias, children unvaccinated are more likely to be autistic or have learning difficulties. I need to say that not taking a vaccination make a child more likely to have difficulties. It all about sampling and cause and effect.oh well lets have a few jabs then and make all the kids smarter if thats what the crystal clear data's proves 🤦

The data doesn't say that either. Remember cause and effect. some think otherwise https://youtu.be/ZqizB87kkhc?si=mmTNNntcJ6gnM8hh"

That is a rebuttal come on you can do better than post that rubbish. Autism link to vaccination is a dead duck the creator of the grift had to admit he made it all up in the end. If you want to argue about vaccine effectiveness fair enough but arguing that any vaccine causes autism is just silly.

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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS" "

Risk rate: according to government guidance from June 2021, around 10 people develop this condition for every million of AZ vaccine doses given. That’s 0.001%.

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

Risk rate: according to government guidance from June 2021, around 10 people develop this condition for every million of AZ vaccine doses given. That’s 0.001%."

at tha point it had only being given out 6 months so its probably a higher number now or when they decided to stop using it

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By *I TwoCouple 3 weeks ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

Risk rate: according to government guidance from June 2021, around 10 people develop this condition for every million of AZ vaccine doses given. That’s 0.001%.at tha point it had only being given out 6 months so its probably a higher number now or when they decided to stop using it "

There's that word "probably" again *sigh

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 3 weeks ago

Surrey

Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?"

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 3 weeks ago

Durham


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!"

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82. "

Does that justify what society endured?

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"Rewind to 2003, I was forced to take Larium/Mefloquine hydrochloride (research side effects) under threat of disciplinary action if I was found to not have taken it. Army said it was safe, issued it with no information booklet (sound familiar), I was deployed to an area in Iraq with ZERO threat from malaria.

It is far from safe! Here’s a question for you. What are the long term side effects of the covid jag, does it contain any animal products, what is the efficacy of the vaccine? I’ve had covid 19, four times, 4.

I suffered nothing more than mild flu symptoms. I’m not anti vax by any means, but I am a little wiser when it comes to taking something that hasn’t properly gone through phase III testing. Oh ,hi phase three. 👋🏻.

I want the research data, and as for the covid jag.

It contains animal products, in particular squalene, which comes from a deep sea sharks liver. You carry on taking it though, thanks for protecting me. 🙂👍

There are many vaccines against COVID, especially for people, including yourself, who have travelled around the world. There was only 1 vaccine in the UK, circa November 2020.

There were more than 50 vaccines that had approvals last year and the UK news in the autumn/winter 2020, of the first one of several different vaccines, approved and used, was common knowledge.

Best to do your own information sourcing and evaluation of widespread knowledge.

Absolutely, that’s my point. I’m not anti vax, i just refuse to be given something that hasn’t been properly tested, and to just blindly follow what the government tells you. 😊

Probably just a minority of people follow certain governments' advice. You make a lot of posts upon this nonspecific vaccine you're against, having been in many countries, when over 50 different vaccines were approved globally. certainly be a minority now getting vaccinated after the last few years let alone once mr kennedy releases important hidden info

Kennedy is a nutcase, and a stain upon his family name. Anybody who has been sucked into the morass of garbage being spewed by him and all the other anti-science shucksters, there is just no hope for you.

It's tragic that his antivax postings of total lies may have deferred people from giving their children protection. Just 1 death of an innocent child would be unforgivable. And yet people supporting him could result in many lives lost. total lies according to who? You? Youtube facebook?

He's said that Autism is caused by vaccines, which is blatantly untrue. He's had prolonged repetition of this dangerous lie. His brother and sister, as well as one of his nieces, Maeve Kennedy McKean, a Director of health at a US university, have all denounced his claims, for putting lives at risk.

and how do you know its "blatanly untrue" and do you actually think anybody would scream from the rooftops something against something so good if they didn't either 1 have some reason or evidence to beleive so or 2 be in a position high enough up the food chain to know something is suspicious ie backhanders, coverups hidden tests or files ect

There's nothing linking autism to vaccines, apart from lies. It's really simple.they said the same with blood clots and hearth issuses too until it couldnt be hidden 🤷

You asked for the lie. The lie is that Autism is caused by vaccines. It was a lie created by a former medic, who made fraudulent claims. Kennedy has repeated that lie. It couldn't be more simple. you're missing my point, you're saying its a lie because theyve told you its a lie neither of us or anyone on this site is in a position to know otherwise but theres a lot of people out there wanting answers in regards to there children and autism and certain medical professionals saying there is a link, so there could potentially be something

It started as a lie. A lie made by one person, Wakefield. He fraudulently made the claim and was struck off, losing appeals. All of this is public knowledge. Due to the heightened fear he'd created, research was undertaken to confirm that there was no link, which has been repeated, with the same results. Despite this being based on 1 person's lie, Kennedy has repeated this man's lies too. All of this is public domain, there's no secrecy about it. and the parents who say they noticed a difference in their childs behavior immediately after vaccination?? Thats just thought up in their heads because of the fear mongering theyve heard?

And the study giving factual statistics about your claims is where ?thats not how science works is it, someone asks a question in relation to a concern they have and science proves it right or wrong, and if this certain concern arrises again then the science should be re checking or even constantly checking if its something common take the az for instance firstly a few clots it gets mentioned then a few a more then im sure it were investigated and a link found between the twobut im sure they were people after a few cases of clots saying "its not the vax its safe FACTS"

Risk rate: according to government guidance from June 2021, around 10 people develop this condition for every million of AZ vaccine doses given. That’s 0.001%.at tha point it had only being given out 6 months so its probably a higher number now or when they decided to stop using it

There's that word "probably" again *sigh"

ok then DEFINATLY or they wouldnt of pulled something so safe and effective from use would they

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?"

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it."

These threads don't give me any confidence that people are learning from it.

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

These threads don't give me any confidence that people are learning from it."

Just to clarify, I believe in INFORMED CHOICE!

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By *ral_Adventurea_69Man 3 weeks ago

Lincs

Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!!

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!! "

I'm confused, you don't mean me surely?

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By *ral_Adventurea_69Man 3 weeks ago

Lincs


"Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!!

I'm confused, you don't mean me surely?"

No, the original poster.

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By *hynot2399Couple 3 weeks ago

Sligo


"Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!!

I'm confused, you don't mean me surely?

No, the original poster. "

Thank goodness for that 😘

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

These threads don't give me any confidence that people are learning from it.

Just to clarify, I believe in INFORMED CHOICE!"

Good

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By *ackformore100Man 3 weeks ago

Tin town


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it."

What does suck it up mean exactly? Beyond a trite catch phrase can you clarify what suck it up actually means?

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By *melie LALWoman 3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

What does suck it up mean exactly? Beyond a trite catch phrase can you clarify what suck it up actually means? "

Acceptance.

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By *ackformore100Man 3 weeks ago

Tin town


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

What does suck it up mean exactly? Beyond a trite catch phrase can you clarify what suck it up actually means?

Acceptance."

And what is it that you society has to accept?

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"Can anyone please summarise this thread for me. It’s now the length of a short novella. I tried to read the arguments and counter arguments but my eyes glazed over and I lost the will to carry on.

I’m assuming that by now we can all agree that:

a) Covid was a killer

b) The vaccines saved lives

Or have we not even reached that point yet?

The mean age of death from Covid 19 in the UK is 80.4 yrs, above average life expectancy!

Not sure where you are getting the figure from as the number will change over time, the figure i found was 79.4 but your figure is broadly correct. The average age of death in the uk is 82.06. But you are fundamentally misunderstanding the number average. On average a person who dies of covid was expected to live between 5 and 6 years. When people reach 75 a lot more than half of those people will reach 82.

Does that justify what society endured?

Society HAS to suck it up, we cannot change what happened. What we can do is learn from it.

What does suck it up mean exactly? Beyond a trite catch phrase can you clarify what suck it up actually means?

Acceptance.

And what is it that you society has to accept? "

and what have people learnt from it?

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By *igNick1381Man 3 weeks ago

BRIDGEND


"Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!!

I'm confused, you don't mean me surely?

No, the original poster. "

What was racist?

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By *igNick1381Man 3 weeks ago

BRIDGEND


"Leave off with the racist shit lad! I know you're a squaddie/patriot, but there are black members of the swinging community who would find that deeply offensive!!

I'm confused, you don't mean me surely?

No, the original poster. "

Surely not the term cotton picking

Fuck me there's no way you're that soft, not that you think others are

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By *winglow777Man 3 weeks ago

selkirk

To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 3 weeks ago

Central


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time. "

It's been used as an implicitly racist abusive term, since the 19th century

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By *igNick1381Man 3 weeks ago

BRIDGEND

Fair enough

Who knew op was such a racist, or at least was comfortable using casual racism

Shocking op, shocking

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By *loydyMan 3 weeks ago

British


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*complete and utter shit different varient of the common cold

"

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By *ackformore100Man 3 weeks ago

Tin town


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time. "

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games.

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. "

but yet BBC is fine 🤷

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By *winglow777Man 3 weeks ago

selkirk


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷"

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

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By *lik and PaulCouple 3 weeks ago

cahoots


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations "

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then

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By *arry and MegsCouple 3 weeks ago

letterkenny

One day people will stop looking for things to be offended by and get on with life

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By *lik and PaulCouple 3 weeks ago

cahoots


"One day people will stop looking for things to be offended by and get on with life"

That would be wonderful wouldn't it xx

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then "

so they can be called black when there's shagging white wives but no other time??

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By *lik and PaulCouple 3 weeks ago

cahoots


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then so they can be called black when there's shagging white wives but no other time?? "

They call themselves black so guess they would do that all the time.

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then so they can be called black when there's shagging white wives but no other time??

They call themselves black so guess they would do that all the time."

but is it racist asking for a black man for a meet ect wheras if i said "the shop down there with the black man" some would say that is racist 🤷

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By *lik and PaulCouple 3 weeks ago

cahoots


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then so they can be called black when there's shagging white wives but no other time??

They call themselves black so guess they would do that all the time.but is it racist asking for a black man for a meet ect wheras if i said "the shop down there with the black man" some would say that is racist 🤷"

I never refer to people by colour but as a poster said earlier, some people will always look to be offended, often on behalf of others who aren't offended themselves....it's a strange world.

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By *oandstephCouple 3 weeks ago

Bradford


"To be fair, the term is widely considered offensive and has been for a very long time.

Cotton picking minute is widely considered offensive? Did I understand that correctly.? Well if that is what has been concluded I did not know that. Every days a school day.

Mind you swing low is also considered racist or offensive or something hence why some have tried stopping it being sung at rugby games. but yet BBC is fine 🤷

Technically it’s not fine, it carries certain racist connotations

We had better start telling all the black guys that message us saying they are a BBC that they are being racist then so they can be called black when there's shagging white wives but no other time??

They call themselves black so guess they would do that all the time.but is it racist asking for a black man for a meet ect wheras if i said "the shop down there with the black man" some would say that is racist 🤷

I never refer to people by colour but as a poster said earlier, some people will always look to be offended, often on behalf of others who aren't offended themselves....it's a strange world."

most certainly is id say its a decriptive term used the same as ypu would use for a car and have no problem been decribed as "white cream peach" whatever i think its always more the way its used thats the problem

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By *entakuruMan 3 weeks ago

Exeter

My uncle died after second dose. My best friend spent NYE 2020 in A&E after a bad reaction to her booster. Another friend still can't properly hold his arm above his head after his first one. Yet another friend of mine had an awful reaction to his first shot because they told him his Lyme Disease that has been an issue for him for over 20 years wouldn't affect the vaccine at all. Those are just people I know *personally* who have had adverse effects. If you want some idea of what people in the UK have experienced, check the reports on the UK Govt official 'yellow card vaccine report' website (NB this is *all* vaccines currently available in the UK not just CV19.

There was another very interesting website called 'howbadismybatchcom' that pulled data from the aforementioned UK government reporting site as well as US, Canadian, Australian and other official government reporting sites cross-referenced to the batch number (info given to everyone on their vaccination record card) which proved fairly conclusively that there were very obviously bad batches that caused a lot of damage to people and equally some obvious placebo/control group batches as well. Which adds weight to the hypothesis that it was being trialled at the same time it was made available not sufficiently in advance.

NB - I am not an antivaxxer, I've had multiple vaccinations in the past and no doubt will again. But under no circumstances was I prepared to take something that had been knocked up in under six months and skipped the usual minimum trial periods that exist for a very good reason, and the fact that they went from saying that vaccine would halt the spread when it very obviously didn't (and when I eventually caught CV19 it was from people who'd been vaxxed and doublevaxxed.

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By *he BarrcudaMan 7 days ago

Earlestown

It seems that there was a side effect of not being jabbed that caused so many septics vote Trump.

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By *areToBe43 OP   Man 7 days ago

Surrey

So they have a vaccine sceptic heading up the US health department now. Let’s see how that pans out in coming years. Sure there will be cheerleaders aplenty on here and elsewhere until the chickens come home to roost…

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By *ork_Guy400Man 6 days ago

Cork


"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?"

They increased in Ireland steadily since 2020 and heart related conditions are up 25% I believe (may have the number wrong off the top of my head but it was in the 20s).

This can be verified through numbers provided by the UN and the Irish heart foundation.

I know alot of people who got the vaccine and had no issues but I know 4 who had heart attacks within the first 2 weeks. One was as young as 28 and one died who was in his late 50s. You can put that down to a number of reasons but interesting timing and one common denominator.

I also know from Pfizers own report during testing (again, available online) that they had far more adverse reactions than typically allowed for a new drug. An alarmingly high amount to be honest especially as Pfizer and the other companies immediately got immunity from any liability from vaccine injuries and admitted during an EU parliament hearing that they never tested to see would it stop transmission, which we were led to believe by our governments.

The same Pfizer who had to pay the highest settlement of all time for fraudulent marketing of drugs, paying doctors to prescribe those drugs and lieing in their testing stage. So not the most trustworthy of people.

A recent study by Pub Med showed direct correlation with the vaccine and myocarditis and a number of other issues too, again available online.

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By *udiguyMan 6 days ago

harrogate


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

Well the same can be said of the unvaccinated........ why are we all not dead from the deadly virus ??

Why have i not so much as a sniffle ?

Does this mean billions of healthy people took a hot shot for something that was no risk to them at all !? Therefore putting themselves at risk of vaccine injury ? Which exist ...... regardless of your sheeple mentality telling u otherwise . A shot they were told was going to stop the virus ! But in fact created the mutations and new strains . And did nt stop them getting it .i know jabbers who ve had covid 6x

Face facts ! Your going to be on the wrong side of history . You regret being fooled by the government and to proud / foolish to admit it ... i thought most of you had learnt to shut up about it now ...

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

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By *udiguyMan 6 days ago

harrogate


"Eat well, live well, exercise, avoid vaping, smoking and just take of your body. Fuck big pharma and their dodgy jabs."

Amen

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By *udiguyMan 6 days ago

harrogate


"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?

They increased in Ireland steadily since 2020 and heart related conditions are up 25% I believe (may have the number wrong off the top of my head but it was in the 20s).

This can be verified through numbers provided by the UN and the Irish heart foundation.

I know alot of people who got the vaccine and had no issues but I know 4 who had heart attacks within the first 2 weeks. One was as young as 28 and one died who was in his late 50s. You can put that down to a number of reasons but interesting timing and one common denominator.

I also know from Pfizers own report during testing (again, available online) that they had far more adverse reactions than typically allowed for a new drug. An alarmingly high amount to be honest especially as Pfizer and the other companies immediately got immunity from any liability from vaccine injuries and admitted during an EU parliament hearing that they never tested to see would it stop transmission, which we were led to believe by our governments.

The same Pfizer who had to pay the highest settlement of all time for fraudulent marketing of drugs, paying doctors to prescribe those drugs and lieing in their testing stage. So not the most trustworthy of people.

A recent study by Pub Med showed direct correlation with the vaccine and myocarditis and a number of other issues too, again available online. "

Stop spouting facts and truths . You ll scare the sheep

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By *anonfire96Man 6 days ago

Mansfield

Exactly, I went into AF almost immediately after the Pfizer booster at my local hospital, not really sure what actually caused it, was it an underlying issue triggered early. Lots of people my sort of age get AF anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) 6 days ago


"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?

They increased in Ireland steadily since 2020 and heart related conditions are up 25% I believe (may have the number wrong off the top of my head but it was in the 20s).

This can be verified through numbers provided by the UN and the Irish heart foundation.

I know alot of people who got the vaccine and had no issues but I know 4 who had heart attacks within the first 2 weeks. One was as young as 28 and one died who was in his late 50s. You can put that down to a number of reasons but interesting timing and one common denominator.

I also know from Pfizers own report during testing (again, available online) that they had far more adverse reactions than typically allowed for a new drug. An alarmingly high amount to be honest especially as Pfizer and the other companies immediately got immunity from any liability from vaccine injuries and admitted during an EU parliament hearing that they never tested to see would it stop transmission, which we were led to believe by our governments.

The same Pfizer who had to pay the highest settlement of all time for fraudulent marketing of drugs, paying doctors to prescribe those drugs and lieing in their testing stage. So not the most trustworthy of people.

A recent study by Pub Med showed direct correlation with the vaccine and myocarditis and a number of other issues too, again available online.

Stop spouting facts and truths . You ll scare the sheep"

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By *inceIlkestonMan 6 days ago

Ilkeston


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

"

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

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By *udiguyMan 6 days ago

harrogate


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died "

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

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By *ackformore100Man 6 days ago

Tin town


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died "

That's quite a claim. Any evidence ri support it? I think the definition of non vaxxers is quite important here too.

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By *ackformore100Man 6 days ago

Tin town


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !! "

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 6 days ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation. "

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.

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By *oandstephCouple 6 days ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups."

all them poor kids vaccinated against covid for no reason other than brainwashing from the media and gov, and were told to trust the science and media 🤦

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 6 days ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.all them poor kids vaccinated against covid for no reason other than brainwashing from the media and gov, and were told to trust the science and media 🤦"

The studies so far point that covid vaccination didn't do any harm but didn't infer any benefit either for young people personally at least death rate wise. Obviously this doesn't include benefits to society as a whole.

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By *oandstephCouple 6 days ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.all them poor kids vaccinated against covid for no reason other than brainwashing from the media and gov, and were told to trust the science and media 🤦

The studies so far point that covid vaccination didn't do any harm but didn't infer any benefit either for young people personally at least death rate wise. Obviously this doesn't include benefits to society as a whole. "

so far been the key word there and what studies point that the vaccines didnt do any harm? Any links please?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS 6 days ago

Durham


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.all them poor kids vaccinated against covid for no reason other than brainwashing from the media and gov, and were told to trust the science and media 🤦

The studies so far point that covid vaccination didn't do any harm but didn't infer any benefit either for young people personally at least death rate wise. Obviously this doesn't include benefits to society as a whole. so far been the key word there and what studies point that the vaccines didnt do any harm? Any links please? "

Just google something like death rates of 12 to 17 vaccination uk. It will bring up quite a few studies done at different times. One thing to bear in mind is the number of deaths of young people is quite small makes making definite statements difficult. As I said there is a small increase in expected young peoples death rates the last few years, that is true for circulatory deaths too. However there is no statistical difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated group.

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By *ackformore100Man 6 days ago

Tin town


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups."

That's interesting because the govs own figures showed a huge increase in death rate for those kids having been vaccinated compared to those not receiving a vaccine. They didn't like that (for obvious reasons) so amended it because "vaccines were only given to children who were vulnerable and therefore were more likely to die in any case"... Which may be true, but does not change the statistics.

So now it's down to deciding which gov statistics you like and choose to believe and which you don't like and choose not to believe.

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By *oandstephCouple 6 days ago

Bradford


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

Most of the non vaxxers would be dead if they hadn't had all the vaccines in their youth. I had 15 innoculations by the time I left school. If you don't believe me visit the cholera monument on Sheffield, over 130,000 died

Problem u got is your putting all people who did nt take covid jabs under the same brolly as people who had NONE ... the hardcore anti vax if you will... many just did nt trust this one . And with good reason . Deaths went up , people got injured , it did nt work is also true !!

Certainly the comparison of the numbers/rate of deaths in children who have been vaccinated and those who have not been vaccinated merits investigation.

It has been tracked and studied. Been a few studies over time and all the ones in the uk have come to pretty much the same conclusion. Covid has no positive or negative affect on the expected death rate overall of young people and also on the death rate involving circulatory diseases. There is a slight increase on both post pandemic but that is seen in both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.

That's interesting because the govs own figures showed a huge increase in death rate for those kids having been vaccinated compared to those not receiving a vaccine. They didn't like that (for obvious reasons) so amended it because "vaccines were only given to children who were vulnerable and therefore were more likely to die in any case"... Which may be true, but does not change the statistics.

So now it's down to deciding which gov statistics you like and choose to believe and which you don't like and choose not to believe. "

i think untill a certain person in america is in a position to hopefully uncover some files hopefully giving the true origin of the virus, which then just shows to what extremes they will go to lie and cover up what suits them. Untill then we are going round in circles using bits of data thats available which quite frankly is as usefull as a chocolate fireguard

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By *melie LALWoman 6 days ago

Peterborough


"Wait. What? Excess deaths DID increase or DIDN’T increase? I’m so confused. Which is it?

They increased in Ireland steadily since 2020 and heart related conditions are up 25% I believe (may have the number wrong off the top of my head but it was in the 20s).

This can be verified through numbers provided by the UN and the Irish heart foundation.

I know alot of people who got the vaccine and had no issues but I know 4 who had heart attacks within the first 2 weeks. One was as young as 28 and one died who was in his late 50s. You can put that down to a number of reasons but interesting timing and one common denominator.

I also know from Pfizers own report during testing (again, available online) that they had far more adverse reactions than typically allowed for a new drug. An alarmingly high amount to be honest especially as Pfizer and the other companies immediately got immunity from any liability from vaccine injuries and admitted during an EU parliament hearing that they never tested to see would it stop transmission, which we were led to believe by our governments.

The same Pfizer who had to pay the highest settlement of all time for fraudulent marketing of drugs, paying doctors to prescribe those drugs and lieing in their testing stage. So not the most trustworthy of people.

A recent study by Pub Med showed direct correlation with the vaccine and myocarditis and a number of other issues too, again available online. "

A study BY Pubmed? No love, it doesn't do research. It's a database of research. Therefore you need to give a title as no-one is going to look through thousands and thousands of pieces of research

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By *heffielderCouple 3 days ago

sheffield


"I don't think anyone cared about taking a vaccine

People were pissed at being coerced into taking something 👌👌and been labelled nut job tin foil hat wearing granny killer simply for been fit and healthy and would rather take my chances against a virus with a 99.9 % survival rate or risk taking something new with no long term testing

As far as I am aware it was and has never been that low. It was low at a little over 1% fatality. But the death toll was hundreds of thousands. Globally 7 million (worldometer)."

Not overall, but there was many demographics that where we'll below 1%. As we all know it varies massively with age and if you already had certain medical conditions...

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By *attoedMan 3 days ago

Aldershot


"I thought by now there would be literally a MASSIVE tsunami of people dead, deranged or thoroughly discombobulated after taking different variants of the Covid vaccine.

*narrows eyes*

But despite the billions and billions of vaccines distributed to billions and billions of people in every country all around the world, things seem to be more or less the same as they were pre-Covid… No mass suicides. No cases of heads exploding or spontaneous combustion. No legions of walking dead mindlessly doing the bidding of the luminati…

What the hell people? All those arguments. All that vitriol. All that point scoring and taking down and being owned.

Dammit. It couldn’t all have just been so much misguided hot air? Could it?

Could it be… Could it be that skepticism around the vaccine was… maybe just a tiny bit wide of the mark!?

*opens the door. Waits for the hordes of conspiracy theorists to pile in*

I just like the numbers with all the so called vaxs made a distributed in 4 years it would actually be impossible

To make that amount of vaccines would take 5 companies making them at a rate of one per second 10 yrs

Interesting fact definitely pushes the planedemic idea

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