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"Anyone else been floored with this flu that’s been doing its rounds I’m ill a week still no signs of getting better "Plenty of fluids and plenty of rest. Paracetamol for a high temperature. Get well soon. | |||
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"I always make a very spicy ginger curry and it works. Not for the feint hearted though" Ooh - I love a good bug-murdering spicy curry, and ginger, chillies, onions are turmeric are all chock-full of good stuff for warding off the flu. Any chance of a recipe share? 😉 | |||
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"Anyone else been floored with this flu that’s been doing its rounds I’m ill a week still no signs of getting better "Is there ?  | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up " Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”  | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up” ""40 % effective of not having to see a doctor" Dont miss details out you're as bad as the youtubers | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up” "And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. "same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round, | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round, "If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points. Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting. Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties. Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age. As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them. We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity. The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken. The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. "yep i understand all that but you still didnt answer the question so ill simplify it, 2 million people 1 million have the flu jab 4 of them people die from flu 1 million dont have the flu jab 4 of them die from flu Did the flu jab save them 999,996 people or is that data as usefull as the data and statistics that are available for us us to read, now i know them numbers are probably daft but realistically so is trying to use the statistics for teying to say the flu jab does when theres so many variables from person, sex, nationality age region ect ect ect | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up " The efficacy of the flu vaccine changes year on year because it is essentially an educated guess at which flu types will be most prevalent each year. They work on what is circulating in other parts of the world to work out which will be most likely to be circulating here in the winter. The flu vaccines contain the 3 or 4 (depending in the vaccine) most prevalent strains. Some years we get a rogue strain they were not expecting so the vaccines are less efficient other years they have been highly effective. The other point is the more people who are vaccinated the more protected the population as a whole is. | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up The efficacy of the flu vaccine changes year on year because it is essentially an educated guess at which flu types will be most prevalent each year. They work on what is circulating in other parts of the world to work out which will be most likely to be circulating here in the winter. The flu vaccines contain the 3 or 4 (depending in the vaccine) most prevalent strains. Some years we get a rogue strain they were not expecting so the vaccines are less efficient other years they have been highly effective. The other point is the more people who are vaccinated the more protected the population as a whole is."
think that's a very good point. It's far less for myself that I'll be getting vaccinated. But I come into a lot of contact with people at work, and then visit my mum who is 85,and very unwell. If me getting a jab improves her chances of not becoming more unwell. Then I'm all for it! | |||
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"I've got the flu, hacking cough as well... Time to get the face masks out in public transport etc..and washing of our hands?" And stay away from others, when we have an infection. Definitely the steps we learned in the pandemic are helpful and fairly easy to dom The flu vaccine is being rolled out, as well as the autumn Covid booster. | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. yep i understand all that but you still didnt answer the question so ill simplify it,
2 million people
1 million have the flu jab
4 of them people die from flu
1 million dont have the flu jab
4 of them die from flu
Did the flu jab save them 999,996 people or is that data as usefull as the data and statistics that are available for us us to read, now i know them numbers are probably daft but realistically so is trying to use the statistics for teying to say the flu jab does when theres so many variables from person, sex, nationality age region ect ect ect
"Dunno where you got your statistics from, probably an antivax group lol Anyways, dying from flu is pretty bad I'm sure, I haven't tried it but I did have (proper) flu twice and was in bed for a week and completely fucked for two weeks after both times, so since then I get the vaccine. | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. yep i understand all that but you still didnt answer the question so ill simplify it,
2 million people
1 million have the flu jab
4 of them people die from flu
1 million dont have the flu jab
4 of them die from flu
Did the flu jab save them 999,996 people or is that data as usefull as the data and statistics that are available for us us to read, now i know them numbers are probably daft but realistically so is trying to use the statistics for teying to say the flu jab does when theres so many variables from person, sex, nationality age region ect ect ect
Dunno where you got your statistics from, probably an antivax group lol
Anyways, dying from flu is pretty bad I'm sure, I haven't tried it but I did have (proper) flu twice and was in bed for a week and completely fucked for two weeks after both times, so since then I get the vaccine. "probably an antivax group lol didnt expect anyless from you lol and im sure even the daftest of people would realise them statistics are just made up to simplify the question so just to clarify for you specifically "them statistics arent real i made them up as an example" sorry if they confused some people | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. yep i understand all that but you still didnt answer the question so ill simplify it,
2 million people
1 million have the flu jab
4 of them people die from flu
1 million dont have the flu jab
4 of them die from flu
Did the flu jab save them 999,996 people or is that data as usefull as the data and statistics that are available for us us to read, now i know them numbers are probably daft but realistically so is trying to use the statistics for teying to say the flu jab does when theres so many variables from person, sex, nationality age region ect ect ect
Dunno where you got your statistics from, probably an antivax group lol
Anyways, dying from flu is pretty bad I'm sure, I haven't tried it but I did have (proper) flu twice and was in bed for a week and completely fucked for two weeks after both times, so since then I get the vaccine. probably an antivax group lol didnt expect anyless from you lol and im sure even the daftest of people would realise them statistics are just made up to simplify the question so just to clarify for you specifically "them statistics arent real i made them up as an example" sorry if they confused some people "It's why validated data, using appropriate statistical analysis tools, is the global standard. It keeps everything clear and the data can be provided, for anyone to run the same analysis. | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life. "Think I just got a bit turned on reading this.  I'm so delightfully qeird  | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up Utter rubbish, it’s + 40 % effective. Perhaps it’s you who needs to “wake up”
And varies, as it can be phenomenally effective, if the estimated flu strains that are to be most dominant in the forthcoming winter, is more on target.
It's a tough call, based on the southern hemisphere s just finished winter and which types had been prevalent. There's then a short few months, to produce millions of doses, for the end of the northern hemisphere s summer. same as ive asked before though with another certain jab, how can it be physically possible to tell if its effective on humans, possibly slightly on rats but unless you can find 2 exact identical people and give one the flu jab and one not and then expose them both to the flu its just guess work with statistics that you could argue either way round,
If you've ever visited your GP and asked for an exact personal prediction on how a specific treatment will definitely work for you, you will have always been told that we are each unique and will respond differently from others, as well as differently at alternative points.
Scientific analysis will largely look at quantitative and qualitative outcomes. To get quantitative understanding of things like this, statistical power is essential - we're benefitting from the luxury of looking at large volumes of data. Medically, there may be some anecdotal reports upon selected individuals. That almost certainly won't give you the wholly personalised predictions of effectiveness that you appear to be suggesting.
Life's not certain. We've got much better at understanding human health but generally most things are going to be about the probability of something happening, rather than any certainties.
Our immune systems change as we age too. They're generally less strong as we age.
As referred to earlier, each annual flu jab currently will be different from the previous year's - it will have different target strains of flu, that it will build immunity for. This is because there are a large number of different flu virus variants and types and it can only target a small amount of them.
We can and have produced effectiveness figures in several ways, over the decades that we've had flu vaccines. Analysis of population levels of severe illness and deaths, including hospital admissions, which can be split by demographics, etc, is one aspect that data can be crunched for. We know who's had vaccines, for example. Obviously, there are experts such as epidemiologists and many others, who are involved. Obviously this needs to be fairly brief and Mrs KinkycoupleNW (not her definite username) might add further clarity.
The closest each of us will have us a statistical probability, of certain types of medical outcomes. New medicines are subject to much more stringent safety and efficacy testing, prior to approvals. Once medicines are out there, then population level analyses will be undertaken.
The promising outlook for flu vaccines, is that research has been underway for some years, in order to develop a vaccine that is effective against whatever strains might be in circulation. There's no guarantees that this will all happen successfully but it's part of the beauty of medical research that goes on invisibly from our daily life.
Think I just got a bit turned on reading this.
I'm so delightfully qeird "You're in good company! | |||
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"Such a load of keyboard warriors on every website now. This is supposed to be a fun, meeting site. Look, I'm not interested in facts, figures and if I worry about the flu I would never leave the house. Please all you wonderful and sexy humans on here, just have some fun from fab..... Life is really crap in the "normal" guises we have in everyday life kisses Everyone, Deeds X"Is a keyboard warrior someone who bitches about discussions others are having | |||
"Such a load of keyboard warriors on every website now. This is supposed to be a fun, meeting site. Look, I'm not interested in facts, figures and if I worry about the flu I would never leave the house. Please all you wonderful and sexy humans on here, just have some fun from fab..... Life is really crap in the "normal" guises we have in everyday life kisses Everyone, Deeds X"My mother is 85, she's housebound but myself and carers visit. She's nearing end of life care now. Do I wish to speed that along by transferring a virus? No, no I do not. If you don't like the virus thread go hang out in the lounge instead | |||
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"Such a load of keyboard warriors on every website now. This is supposed to be a fun, meeting site. Look, I'm not interested in facts, figures and if I worry about the flu I would never leave the house. Please all you wonderful and sexy humans on here, just have some fun from fab..... Life is really crap in the "normal" guises we have in everyday life kisses Everyone, Deeds X
Is a keyboard warrior someone who bitches about discussions others are having "
Especially in a section that's isolated from the rest of the forum and is easily avoided, should some individual or other, have no interest, according to their protestations. | |||
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"Usually fall ill when I've eaten too much sugary shit. Which I had done a couple of weeks ago (a whole carrot cake) then a week later I've fallen I'll... As expected " When you say a whole carrot cake, do you mean a large slice or the actual full round carrot cake? Why? Do you eat a full lamb when you fancy a couple of chops. | |||
"It's why validated data, using appropriate statistical analysis tools, is the global standard. It keeps everything clear and the data can be provided, for anyone to run the same analysis. Still no answer to my question based on my figures did the flu jab work or not? " Your figures are just total bollocks though. How about something more like: 1 million people have flu vaccination, are subsequently exposed to the flu virus (just by normal living, cos there's so much of it doing the rounds), 1000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 100 of them catch it and feel pretty bad, 4 of them catch it and die. A different 1 million people are foolish and don't take the vaccine they are offered, and when subsequently exposed to the virus, 100000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 50000 of them catch it and feel as if they are dying, 10000 of them do die because it's a really nasty variant of the flu. Did the flu vaccine work? Yes, I can just pull statistics out of my arse as well. The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. Possibly the vaccination programmes have been too successful, as good general public health has removed the evolutionary pressure that previously tended to kill off stupidity. | |||
"It's why validated data, using appropriate statistical analysis tools, is the global standard. It keeps everything clear and the data can be provided, for anyone to run the same analysis. Still no answer to my question based on my figures did the flu jab work or not? Your figures are just total bollocks though. How about something more like: 1 million people have flu vaccination, are subsequently exposed to the flu virus (just by normal living, cos there's so much of it doing the rounds), 1000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 100 of them catch it and feel pretty bad, 4 of them catch it and die. A different 1 million people are foolish and don't take the vaccine they are offered, and when subsequently exposed to the virus, 100000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 50000 of them catch it and feel as if they are dying, 10000 of them do die because it's a really nasty variant of the flu. Did the flu vaccine work? Yes, I can just pull statistics out of my arse as well. The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. Possibly the vaccination programmes have been too successful, as good general public health has removed the evolutionary pressure that previously tended to kill off stupidity." | |||
"It's why validated data, using appropriate statistical analysis tools, is the global standard. It keeps everything clear and the data can be provided, for anyone to run the same analysis. Still no answer to my question based on my figures did the flu jab work or not? Your figures are just total bollocks though. How about something more like: 1 million people have flu vaccination, are subsequently exposed to the flu virus (just by normal living, cos there's so much of it doing the rounds), 1000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 100 of them catch it and feel pretty bad, 4 of them catch it and die. A different 1 million people are foolish and don't take the vaccine they are offered, and when subsequently exposed to the virus, 100000 of them catch it and suffer from mild symptoms, 50000 of them catch it and feel as if they are dying, 10000 of them do die because it's a really nasty variant of the flu. Did the flu vaccine work? Yes, I can just pull statistics out of my arse as well. The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. Possibly the vaccination programmes have been too successful, as good general public health has removed the evolutionary pressure that previously tended to kill off stupidity." not for the 4 that died and 100 that felt pretty bad no it didnt 😂but based on them made up figures it seems like it did workbut a shame you took my numbers so personally and made yours to extremes rather than like mine that im still waiting on an answer for from the specialists in here | |||
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"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately " You are right that those things contribute to longer and healthier live but access to clean water then vaccination are the things that made the biggest improvements | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately You are right that those things contribute to longer and healthier live but access to clean water then vaccination are the things that made the biggest improvements " yep clean water 👍forgot that lol | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately " What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. " as ive said against all the jabs mentioned on these posts and still not 1 has been answered, it is impossible to prove either way that the vaccines work or worked and theres no way of testing natural immunity and impossible to get 2 identical people jab 1 and not 1 then expose them to said virus or infection, to simplify my opinion on vaccinations its like 1 boxer training for years for a fight diet on point fitness and training on point and mentally capable of winning then boxer 2 getting off the sofa the day before no training no nutrional build up and having a few jabs of peds and expecting them to do all the work for him the going to battle lol. People need to do a little bit more of the basics than rely on vaccines rather than been fit and healthy giving your immune system a good chance to start with | |||
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"Not feeling great today, afraid I might have gotten something... I hope not. I really hope not." Maybe test to check it's not Covid? Sometimes doesn't show for a few days though | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. as ive said against all the jabs mentioned on these posts and still not 1 has been answered, it is impossible to prove either way that the vaccines work or worked and theres no way of testing natural immunity and impossible to get 2 identical people jab 1 and not 1 then expose them to said virus or infection, to simplify my opinion on vaccinations its like 1 boxer training for years for a fight diet on point fitness and training on point and mentally capable of winning then boxer 2 getting off the sofa the day before no training no nutrional build up and having a few jabs of peds and expecting them to do all the work for him the going to battle lol. People need to do a little bit more of the basics than rely on vaccines rather than been fit and healthy giving your immune system a good chance to start with" What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. " | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. as ive said against all the jabs mentioned on these posts and still not 1 has been answered, it is impossible to prove either way that the vaccines work or worked and theres no way of testing natural immunity and impossible to get 2 identical people jab 1 and not 1 then expose them to said virus or infection, to simplify my opinion on vaccinations its like 1 boxer training for years for a fight diet on point fitness and training on point and mentally capable of winning then boxer 2 getting off the sofa the day before no training no nutrional build up and having a few jabs of peds and expecting them to do all the work for him the going to battle lol. People need to do a little bit more of the basics than rely on vaccines rather than been fit and healthy giving your immune system a good chance to start with What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. "" youre asking a question that is impossible to answer as ive said numerous times | |||
"Not feeling great today, afraid I might have gotten something... I hope not. I really hope not. Maybe test to check it's not Covid? Sometimes doesn't show for a few days though" and what exactly would that achieve him? Hahaha miraculously feel better if he knows its covid? This is the nonsense people come out with, what ever it is covid cold bug flu a covid test makes no difference he will still feel ill and his treatment/rest will not change 🤣 | |||
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"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. as ive said against all the jabs mentioned on these posts and still not 1 has been answered, it is impossible to prove either way that the vaccines work or worked and theres no way of testing natural immunity and impossible to get 2 identical people jab 1 and not 1 then expose them to said virus or infection, to simplify my opinion on vaccinations its like 1 boxer training for years for a fight diet on point fitness and training on point and mentally capable of winning then boxer 2 getting off the sofa the day before no training no nutrional build up and having a few jabs of peds and expecting them to do all the work for him the going to battle lol. People need to do a little bit more of the basics than rely on vaccines rather than been fit and healthy giving your immune system a good chance to start with What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. "youre asking a question that is impossible to answer as ive said numerous times " You mean that you've not researched this sufficiently, to have a strong position against vaccines, as you've appeared to do? | |||
"Not feeling great today, afraid I might have gotten something... I hope not. I really hope not. Maybe test to check it's not Covid? Sometimes doesn't show for a few days thoughand what exactly would that achieve him? Hahaha miraculously feel better if he knows its covid? This is the nonsense people come out with, what ever it is covid cold bug flu a covid test makes no difference he will still feel ill and his treatment/rest will not change 🤣" I don't know him and his approach but know many who engage socially, whatever their infection and others who exclude themselves from social engagement, especially when they believe themselves to be infectious. | |||
"The true facts of the matter are that since the start of regular vaccination programmes for children and adults, the number of childhood deaths from diseases has dropped from about 30% to a tiny fraction of a percent. And the average lifespan has increased by about 25 years. Untold millions of people have far better lives because of vaccines. and you think them numbers are from vaccines alone?? Nothing to do with emergency health care, technology diet not sure about fitness as thats probably as bad as its ever been lately What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. as ive said against all the jabs mentioned on these posts and still not 1 has been answered, it is impossible to prove either way that the vaccines work or worked and theres no way of testing natural immunity and impossible to get 2 identical people jab 1 and not 1 then expose them to said virus or infection, to simplify my opinion on vaccinations its like 1 boxer training for years for a fight diet on point fitness and training on point and mentally capable of winning then boxer 2 getting off the sofa the day before no training no nutrional build up and having a few jabs of peds and expecting them to do all the work for him the going to battle lol. People need to do a little bit more of the basics than rely on vaccines rather than been fit and healthy giving your immune system a good chance to start with What are your figures for the contributions from vaccines, as you're contesting the statement? I assume that you have researched this, as you appear to have a very strong position on it. "youre asking a question that is impossible to answer as ive said numerous times You mean that you've not researched this sufficiently, to have a strong position against vaccines, as you've appeared to do?" you must of misread me or made assumptions, im not against vaccinations more how people push them and the tactics they use to try say they work which they cannot prove neither can i prove they dont | |||
"Not feeling great today, afraid I might have gotten something... I hope not. I really hope not. Maybe test to check it's not Covid? Sometimes doesn't show for a few days thoughand what exactly would that achieve him? Hahaha miraculously feel better if he knows its covid? This is the nonsense people come out with, what ever it is covid cold bug flu a covid test makes no difference he will still feel ill and his treatment/rest will not change 🤣 I don't know him and his approach but know many who engage socially, whatever their infection and others who exclude themselves from social engagement, especially when they believe themselves to be infectious. " so why recommend him to do a covid test then??? What would that achieve either way | |||
"Not feeling great today, afraid I might have gotten something... I hope not. I really hope not. Maybe test to check it's not Covid? Sometimes doesn't show for a few days thoughand what exactly would that achieve him? Hahaha miraculously feel better if he knows its covid? This is the nonsense people come out with, what ever it is covid cold bug flu a covid test makes no difference he will still feel ill and his treatment/rest will not change 🤣 I don't know him and his approach but know many who engage socially, whatever their infection and others who exclude themselves from social engagement, especially when they believe themselves to be infectious. so why recommend him to do a covid test then??? What would that achieve either way " Some people prefer to know their infection type and it may influence their choices, such as withdrawing from contact with vulnerable people, vaccine timing etc. Everybody is different | |||
"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up " 60 - 90 %  | |||
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"Haha, another one that pays no attention, simple researchable fact here, the efficiency of the flu Vax has now fallen below 10% wake up 60 - 90 % "where did that come from? And 60 - 90% of what? | |||
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"Had the flu since late Saturday. Started off with 2 of the largest sneezes and then Sunday it was all downhill. Hardly eaten for the last few days and been in bed mostly. Horrible cough, hot and cold sweats, all over aches. Seem to get better on Wednesday but it was a false sign. I'm normally fit and go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week and it's knocked me for six and last few days have struggled to walk around the house. Symptoms seems to be easing today. Take care everyone, seems like the flu virus this year is a bad muthafucker. Mr" 2 mins of chattering teeth wednesday last, 2 sneezes thurday. triple sneeze friday, double sneeze (2nd one starts before other stops) then now a chest infection, no sinus issues. No fever, fortunately. | |||
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"Recovering quite well now apart from the morning stiffness" A good prompt for me to get vaccinated . I'm achey etc enough in the morning, without the aftereffects of flu 
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