Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc... |
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Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.  |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack. "
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%. |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%. "
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Well our Government knew full well the NHS wasn't prepared as they did that huge exercise that all previous Governments did to find out if we were prepared and our weaknesses and what we were short of and due to "Austerity" and money saving everything was ignored and we even sold off huge stocks of something called "PPE" to save money on storage costs etc etc ? and every the excercise showed we were failing on ..lo and behold along comes " Covid" and ......  |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?"
The sarcasm I denote in tone is inversely proportional to your level of wit and comprehension of the gravity of such a pathogenic virus-
Check out the film Nipah virus on Amazon- set against the backdrop of the outbreak in Kerela district in India
It doesn’t have the level of transmissibility of Covid………. So far! |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc..."
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
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It's fairly easy to be clued up to clueless on things. Excellent evidence, including predictions, has shown many of the various risks that we are subject to, including zoonotic diseases that could harm us too. It's certainly possible to value human health, somewhat more substantially than we do too. Decisions taken for us, by the few cultures with democratic leanings, thus with ourselves holding some accountability, have often led to reduced spending on things like pandemic readiness testing and planning  .
These and other fairly accessible facts don't make it incredibly tough to predict credible catastrophic stories. Good budgets will assemble good expertise, to support realistic fine tuning.
This media production was well discussed in this forum, during the pandemic. We will likely get many more predictable disasters, that we won't have prepared for. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal"
The pandemic response review from a few years before 2020 said we were underprepared. The stress tests failed the simulation. Nothing was done |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?
The sarcasm I denote in tone is inversely proportional to your level of wit and comprehension of the gravity of such a pathogenic virus-
Check out the film Nipah virus on Amazon- set against the backdrop of the outbreak in Kerela district in India
It doesn’t have the level of transmissibility of Covid………. So far!"
Wait, are you saying Nipah is coming?
What can we do? |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?"
What a stupid question |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?
What a stupid question "
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?
What a stupid question "
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?
What a stupid question
Is that because you can't answer it?"
I don't believe you're that dense that it warrants an answer.
However, for those who do not understand fatality rates:
20% of those who catch the disease will die. For the person who catches it, they have an eighty percent survival rate. |
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"Look up the scientific papers written by the science advisors to the movie. It was predicted after SARS and MERS.
And no, it was a 'set up'. If you're mind works that way then go watch Terminator and have a heart attack.
The virus mentioned in the film is actually based on Nipah virus which most certainly exists in Asia. It is definitely on the watch list for pandemic potential and its mortality rate is at least 20%.
Is that mortality rate with or without lockdowns?
What a stupid question
Is that because you can't answer it?"
Pathogens with mortalities of above 5% and moderate transmissibility- are non negotiable- it’s NPI’s vaccines( and would include lockdowns) or face civilisation breakdown.
And herd immunity is not guaranteed with pathogens eg Rabies
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Lot's of films have predicted stuff.
War Game's. Could easily happen.
Soylent Green. Possible.
Logan's Run.
Very possible.
Red Dawn.
Hmmmm
Point being just because a film maker used science fiction and mixes it with fact's and throws in some imagination it doesn't make them a genius or the film a predictor.
Shit happens a pandemic was due at some point it's just we have all become complacent and too trusting in modern medicine for it not to happen,but there you have it,it happened.
Now it depends on what your particular beliefs are man made or an act of nature fact is that whilst it's still around modern medicine did manage to get it under control along with quarantine and other things.
I personally think we dodged a bullet the mutations could have gone a very different way and become far more deadly.
Obviously the dead and permanently changed ( myself included) would say that it was bad enough, whilst others insist it was just like a mild cold that was just down to luck and genetics,to dumb it down kinda think of the way some people get pissed easier than others.
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"Lot's of films have predicted stuff.
War Game's. Could easily happen.
Soylent Green. Possible.
Logan's Run.
Very possible.
Red Dawn.
Hmmmm
Point being just because a film maker used science fiction and mixes it with fact's and throws in some imagination it doesn't make them a genius or the film a predictor.
Shit happens a pandemic was due at some point it's just we have all become complacent and too trusting in modern medicine for it not to happen,but there you have it,it happened.
Now it depends on what your particular beliefs are man made or an act of nature fact is that whilst it's still around modern medicine did manage to get it under control along with quarantine and other things.
I personally think we dodged a bullet the mutations could have gone a very different way and become far more deadly.
Obviously the dead and permanently changed ( myself included) would say that it was bad enough, whilst others insist it was just like a mild cold that was just down to luck and genetics,to dumb it down kinda think of the way some people get pissed easier than others.
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I am still on the fence about the origin of the virus, after all the russians intentionally created and strain of Anthrax that is immune to antibiotics. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal"
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders"
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK."
I hope this is sarcasm rather than thinking you value money over the lives of a few hundred thousand people  |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK."
Hindsight is a wonderful gift.
As is saving the lives of a few hundred thousand people. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc..."
The government were well aware of what was required in the case of a pandemic but they chose not to invest the money, Tories know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK.
I hope this is sarcasm rather than thinking you value money over the lives of a few hundred thousand people "
The logical result of unfettered capitalism are views such as this. |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK.
I hope this is sarcasm rather than thinking you value money over the lives of a few hundred thousand people
The logical result of unfettered capitalism are views such as this."
And, I'm assuming, a disbelief it could not have happened to them (if not sarcasm). |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK.
I hope this is sarcasm rather than thinking you value money over the lives of a few hundred thousand people
The logical result of unfettered capitalism are views such as this.
And, I'm assuming, a disbelief it could not have happened to them (if not sarcasm)."
Not sarcasm and any of us could have been affected however the statistics show that the likelihood was low.
As it is, we have all been detrimentally affected as have future generations. |
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"Almost as if they were prepping the masses for some kind of future event…"
Of course they did. It's basic emergency preparedness and response. Every company with business continuity cerfiticion has to do it. I implement and test them, and you try to prepare for any realisic eventuality, which, in the government's case, is a mass outbreak.
It's funny that you've tried to look clever using the ellipses, but have just made yourself look a bit clueless |
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By *I TwoCouple 35 weeks ago
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK."
Deaths were over 1000 per day and doubling every 3 days.
Define "unnecessary"
A few hundred thousand were "expendable" ? |
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"However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK."
Obviously if, figuratively, you and all of your loved ones where part of that few hundred thousand you would still think the same. |
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"However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK.
Obviously if, figuratively, you and all of your loved ones where part of that few hundred thousand you would still think the same."
Yes.
Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll. |
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll."
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air? |
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By *I TwoCouple 35 weeks ago
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?"
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns |
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns "
Fear porn. FACT is that some people are addicted to it! |
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?"
My opinion. It could have been slightly more or slightly less.
We will never know because the government caved in to the harbingers of doom way too early. They must have known it wasn't a huge problem as they carried on as normal themselves.
The fact remains that 100% of the population has been detrimentally affected to possibly "save" a fraction of 1% from dying. Not worth it by any logical thought. |
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"The fact remains that 100% of the population has been detrimentally affected to possibly "save" a fraction of 1% from dying. Not worth it by any logical thought."
Well saying it could be more or less is really saying nothing at all!
Those who are still alive today, who might not have been otherwise, can not be included in your 100% figure. Most countries in the world had a lockdown of some sort.
All I'm saying is that I'm glad that we don't need to rely on your conjecture should there ever be another pandemic. It's almost as if you think the governments of this world could find nothing else to do, in the UK instance, with £100bn
Your "I'm alright jack" attitude is based on the fact that you aren't in that 1%. |
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"The fact remains that 100% of the population has been detrimentally affected to possibly "save" a fraction of 1% from dying. Not worth it by any logical thought.
Well saying it could be more or less is really saying nothing at all!
Those who are still alive today, who might not have been otherwise, can not be included in your 100% figure. Most countries in the world had a lockdown of some sort.
All I'm saying is that I'm glad that we don't need to rely on your conjecture should there ever be another pandemic. It's almost as if you think the governments of this world could find nothing else to do, in the UK instance, with £100bn
Your "I'm alright jack" attitude is based on the fact that you aren't in that 1%."
Wrong. We could have been in the 1% (or whatever figure you prefer) but still don't think it was worth locking down. |
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I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal
If only we lived on an island and could close our borders
However in hindsight the lockdowns were not necessary at all. Massive economic damage to save a few hundred thousand people in the UK."
Yes only a few hundred thousand.... Fuck 'em |
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"Wrong. We could have been in the 1% (or whatever figure you prefer) but still don't think it was worth locking down.
Well most governments in the world begged to differ."
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By *I TwoCouple 35 weeks ago
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns
Fear porn. FACT is that some people are addicted to it!"
Not " fear porn"
Hard facts, some people are scared to face them |
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
My opinion. It could have been slightly more or slightly less.
We will never know because the government caved in to the harbingers of doom way too early. They must have known it wasn't a huge problem as they carried on as normal themselves.
The fact remains that 100% of the population has been detrimentally affected to possibly "save" a fraction of 1% from dying. Not worth it by any logical thought."
Wasn't a huge problem
Honestly, you're an imbecile
Tell us what you contribute to anything to be worth saving. Let's have a chat about that
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns
Fear porn. FACT is that some people are addicted to it!"
Too true
"The vaccine is going to kill us all!"
"5G! Chemtrails! Agenda 30!"
Believe it or not, some simpletons are wanking about cancer vaccines being the latest doomsday
Imagine |
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"Deaths would probably have been 3x what happened so, depending on which numbers you believe, maybe an extra 500,000.
However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns
Fear porn. FACT is that some people are addicted to it!
Too true
"The vaccine is going to kill us all!"
"5G! Chemtrails! Agenda 30!"
Believe it or not, some simpletons are wanking about cancer vaccines being the latest doomsday
Imagine"
I can quite believe you do that
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However, now 60 million people are saddled with poorer living standards for a generation. This is likely to result in a similar death toll.
On what basis do you come to that 3x calculation; or is it just a figure plucked out of the air?
The only FACT is that deaths doubled approximately every 3 days until lockdowns
Fear porn. FACT is that some people are addicted to it!
Too true
"The vaccine is going to kill us all!"
"5G! Chemtrails! Agenda 30!"
Believe it or not, some simpletons are wanking about cancer vaccines being the latest doomsday
Imagine
I can quite believe you do that
But each to their own. Make sure you have some tissues handy, or an old face mask "
Oh yeah
Tell me the one about the cancer vaccine again, that was a major turn on |
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I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will. |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will."
Surely you Guardians of the Truth will know though |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
Surely you Guardians of the Truth will know though"
I keep my worldly cards close to my chest. |
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By *I TwoCouple 35 weeks ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will."
Is that why Trump and Boris were in northern Korea for a weekend with Kim |
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"Anyone seen this film? It got sooo much right. Even Jude Law as an online conspiracy theorist who pushed the equivalent of chloroquine. Fascinating how the experts all knew how this would unfold and had modelled it pretty perfectly and yet we seemed totally under prepared in terms of planning for lockdowns and disease control measures, ppe stocks, schools, care homes etc...
I don't think it was a case of being under prepared... the whole response was an attempt to balance between restrictions and making/not spending money.
If, on day one, every country imposed a full lockdown and closed their borders, the spread of the virus would have been stopped in it's tracks. This however would have had huge impact on every aspect of every life everywhere around the world, which would have been unpopular & very expensive.
Ultimately, every government had their own idea of what was the best balance.
Cal"
Unfortunately, I think it was already too late when we started to hear / were told about the virus.
From many friends in Hong Kong , it definitely seemed yo be taking a hold there well before December and then there was Chinese New Year so people travelled across the world to their families.
It was everywhere and we had no idea about it.
I am certain that I had it before Christmas in 2019 when I look back at the bug I had. |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will."
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne? |
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"The government did a trial pandemic in 2016-17 and found that they did on have enough PPE and did nothing about it, need I say anymore."
I wonder how many people have now stockpiled a bit of ppe just in case.. And loo roll. |
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"The government did a trial pandemic in 2016-17 and found that they did on have enough PPE and did nothing about it, need I say anymore.
I wonder how many people have now stockpiled a bit of ppe just in case.. And loo roll. "
When I was house hunting in 2020, the amount of oldies that had 10+ packs of Andrex stashed in the airing cupboard was a common sight |
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By *I TwoCouple 34 weeks ago
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"The government did a trial pandemic in 2016-17 and found that they did on have enough PPE and did nothing about it, need I say anymore.
I wonder how many people have now stockpiled a bit of ppe just in case.. And loo roll. "
Some people on these forums use way more than average toilet rolls ..... |
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By *I TwoCouple 34 weeks ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?"
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes "
Such a cunning plan, what could possibly go wrong......  |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes "
*vapour trails*
As the Americans have been saying for years.
Micro-plastics in water that have been found in fish & in embryos these will be slow in the process as with cancer causing.
Covid was unpredictable and erratic to control under governments and W.H.O.
The 3 factors that they control is food,fuel and water. Without these 3 things we would slowly decline in roughly 7 days. |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes "
But like putting lead and other carcinogens in petrol? |
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Great film.
Whether you believe in a lot of rabbit hole conspiracies are not - man made or natural causes, it’s possibly quite staggering how fast the world you know and take for granted can be flipped on its head in a heart beat. |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes "
Source? |
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By *I TwoCouple 34 weeks ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes
Source? "
"They" told me.
Irrefutable.... |
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes "
What virus can withstand the combustion temperature of a jet engine? |
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By *I TwoCouple 34 weeks ago
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"I feel like that there is a underlying corruption between governments to create a Genesis Project that will that will bring population numbers down to a more "controlled" existence as covid was too highly exposed to the media.
It's only a matter of time till they have honed the expertise on viral technologies that will go under the radar of social media and medical professionals...
We really won't know when it happens as we will be absorbed into our own little social network bubbles and ignorant of it ever happening.
War doesn't work to keep the numbers down but a controlled cocktail of viruses will.
This controlled cocktails of viruses that are going to keep the numbers down, do you they will they be airborne?
There's a plan to add virus particles to jet aviation fuel so it gets spread around better in the exhaust fumes
What virus can withstand the combustion temperature of a jet engine?"
None, it's humour |
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