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"My daughter, who works in a US hospital, was told yesterday she can stop wearing a mask. " That is good news . | |||
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"The decision comes after WHOs international health regulations emergency committee discussed the pandemic on friday. They said that "for more than a year the pandemic has been on a downward trend". They also added among other things "so, we fully expect that this virus will continue to transmit, but this is the history of pandemics". What do you think of the decision? I think that it is the right thing to do, although it could of come alot earlier " On the face of it.. Its good news but why is it good news? What difference does it make whst the who say? I think more and more we get bogged down into caring what others think and tell us. Like any illness... Best avoid spreading it and catching it. Beyond that? | |||
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"Strange messaging from the WHO- 10 days again they said that 10% of the world’s population would need long term support through the effects of Covid- so that’s just 800 million people ! Now saying Covid is over and also employing Tegnell ( herd immunity proponent which has been debunked)as an advisor- their messaging is very mixed to say the least" Follow the money? Hindsight is 20/20 but not sure the who have done a great job discharging their obligations on this one. | |||
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"Strange messaging from the WHO- 10 days again they said that 10% of the world’s population would need long term support through the effects of Covid- so that’s just 800 million people ! Now saying Covid is over and also employing Tegnell ( herd immunity proponent which has been debunked)as an advisor- their messaging is very mixed to say the least Follow the money? Hindsight is 20/20 but not sure the who have done a great job discharging their obligations on this one. " I'm inclined to agree. Vested interests in, say, city centre rentals or businesses not set up for a pandemic, would want it to be over. Power, too - pandemic measures are unpopular and make people unhappy. There's also precedent for this - it took several years of "it's nothing, it'll disappear, it'll be fine" for the powers that be to acknowledge the enormous threat of HIV. It's why I don my respirator outside the home. If other people are willing to risk their lives for the mega wealthy and politicians, that's on them. I won't. | |||
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65499929 But he warned the removal of the highest level of alert did not mean the danger was over and said the emergency status could be reinstated if the situation changed. "The worst thing any country can do now is to use this news as a reason to let down its guard, to dismantle the systems it has built, or to send the message to its people that Covid-19 is nothing to worry about," he said." They also said in their announcment that does not mean COVID-19 is over as a global health threat and that there are still 3 deaths a minute and millions more continue to live with the debilitating effects of post-#COVID19 condition while thousands of people around the world are fighting for their lives in intensive care units" It seems mixed messaging to me but it will please the people who boohoo anyone who is still being careful in their day to day life and trying to avoid it. Disclaimer, being careful to try and avoid does not equal hiding behind a sofa and never going out. There is a middle ground and lots inbetween | |||
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"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid." I dont even know were to start with this. How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend. HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives. TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low. | |||
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"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid." This will age like fine milk | |||
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"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid. I dont even know were to start with this. How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend. HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives. TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low. " The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not . | |||
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"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid. I dont even know were to start with this. How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend. HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives. TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low. The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not ." And that's even if we exclude all the other stuff, like the decimation of immune cells (both the group whose loss causes HIV to become AIDS and the one that holds off cancer), the Parkinson's biomarkers, the cardiac damage even after asymptomatic infection, etc. Or the ongoing strain on global healthcare systems by those who continue to need higher levels of care in the acute and subsequent phases | |||
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"The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not ." I don't think we'll ever see anywhere near 800 million people suffering with long COVID, but i get your point. We can and do afford the effects to the hundred million or so with prolonged illness or that die through diseases per year. Those numbers are replaced almost equally in births every year. So there will always be enough people in the world to tax or charge privately to keep the coffers topped up. All figures combined for everything, its only about 1-2% of the global population..and i'm not saying "its only..." as if those lives don't matter, its just fact and I will count in the mortality statistics in 5 years maybe due to my disease. COVID has shown that illness is a very lucrative business for some. To provide a cure for all illnesses isn't really in the interests of pharmaceutical companies. COVID vaccines were a huge cash cow and there will be other viruses and diseases which will keep the profits rolling in for those firms as time goes on. Our NHS will eventually be privatised and those that can't afford healthcare will be counted in the mortality stats, but they will hardly add any significant numbers to the global total. For me, as my disease is rare, there's barely any research in it and there won't be any cure in my lifetime because there's no money it. | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds" I'm not sure that's how anything works. | |||
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone else" Yes, it ended about that time too | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds" Errr Why? | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds" That makes no sense? | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds" Have you traveled back in time? | |||
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"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list " Never was a threat? Blimey better tell all those people who died... they are going to feel really silly. | |||
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"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list " Who told you that ? | |||
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"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list Never was a threat? Blimey better tell all those people who died... they are going to feel really silly. " Last I checked it's still the third leading cause of death in most wealthy countries. For "not a threat", that seems significant. | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds" Did you hibernate for a while? | |||
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too " It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. | |||
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"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list " Dont be silly. | |||
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds Did you hibernate for a while? " Yes id like a refund for not listening to or watching or reading the news please. | |||
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"My daughter, who works in a US hospital, was told yesterday she can stop wearing a mask. " I work in a Scottish hospital. Fully expect to be wearing a mask forever more | |||
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"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list " Tell that to the people I helplessly watched die horrible lonely deaths on the COVID wards I worked on for months. I actually don't know what brains you tinfoil hat wearers thought you were protecting. | |||
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. " Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that? | |||
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that?" Because most people only read the headline and some journalists are no different. | |||
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that?" The WHO announced ( real quote follows ) "It is therefore with great hope that I declare #COVID19 over as a global health emergency. However, that does not mean COVID-19 is over as a global health threat." The threat is still there, the links are all over the net if you don't want to read the one I pasted and the quote above is from the WHO's twitter account | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us." Occasionally i get random messages | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us." Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical... | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us. Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical... " They must have a lot of spare time on their hands | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us. Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical... " Oops... *get. Don't want to cast aspersions. | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us." it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree" I've never pushed my views on any subject on anyone...the messages we are receiving though are pushing their views(or the views of their leaders) on us. Apparently Fab is owned by the organisation that created the covid plan...thats one of this mornings messages...it just gets sillier. | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us. it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree" I merely stated a fact that the US hospital my daughter works in has just told her she can stop wearing a mask. That is no way me trying to push my views on anyone. | |||
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"My opinion is this. Covid is a just another corona virus that have been around for years nothing to worry about. The vaccine was just a massive money making scam it wasnt to hurt anyone to put chips in their arms ect everytime someone got jabbed someone got paid. It was all about money like literally everything in this shit world" . You are of course entitled to your view however there are many experts around the world who are better qualified than a random poster on a sex site saying you are wrong. | |||
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"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us. it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree I merely stated a fact that the US hospital my daughter works in has just told her she can stop wearing a mask. That is no way me trying to push my views on anyone. " I think some people are threatened by anything that's vaguely sensible discussion, even if it's just bland facts, and they respond with this sort of nonsense. | |||
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"I'm nurse in hospital.. I saw the works,I seen bodies, I saw fear from colleges, I wouldn't want see that again. I saw a work mate go home and give it to her parents and both of them died.. people that play this down are thick." Thank you for playing your part. | |||
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"I'm nurse in hospital.. I saw the works,I seen bodies, I saw fear from colleges, I wouldn't want see that again. I saw a work mate go home and give it to her parents and both of them died.. people that play this down are thick." I am not saying people didnt die from Covid, just that they claimed it was far deadlier than it turned out to be. | |||
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