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Covid 19 is no longer a global threat.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

The decision comes after WHOs international health regulations emergency committee discussed the pandemic on friday.

They said that "for more than a year the pandemic has been on a downward trend".

They also added among other things "so, we fully expect that this virus will continue to transmit, but this is the history of pandemics".

What do you think of the decision? I think that it is the right thing to do, although it could of come alot earlier

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

My daughter, who works in a US hospital, was told yesterday she can stop wearing a mask.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"My daughter, who works in a US hospital, was told yesterday she can stop wearing a mask. "
That is good news .

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"The decision comes after WHOs international health regulations emergency committee discussed the pandemic on friday.

They said that "for more than a year the pandemic has been on a downward trend".

They also added among other things "so, we fully expect that this virus will continue to transmit, but this is the history of pandemics".

What do you think of the decision? I think that it is the right thing to do, although it could of come alot earlier "

On the face of it.. Its good news but why is it good news? What difference does it make whst the who say? I think more and more we get bogged down into caring what others think and tell us. Like any illness... Best avoid spreading it and catching it. Beyond that?

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By *estivalMan  over a year ago

borehamwood

Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone else

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

Flagrante

Agree with Backformore in that it's not the widespread threat it once was but we should treat it like all such illnesses, be careful not to spread it around. I still kills and has far reaching effects such as with a good friend of mine who now has a permanent disability due to catching Covid this year.

Taking a sensible, caring approach is the best we can do.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's certainly interesting given that their previous big announcement was that Covid would cause a crisis in long term care.

It's also interesting that they call for countries to continue to mitigate it - amazing if it's a nothingburger

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By *orset.JMan  over a year ago

Weymouth

Strange messaging from the WHO- 10 days again they said that 10% of the world’s population would need long term support through the effects of Covid- so that’s just 800 million people !

Now saying Covid is over and also employing Tegnell ( herd immunity proponent which has been debunked)as an advisor- their messaging is very mixed to say the least

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

It's thankfully been aided along to become less significant by the millions who have given so much. We can be grateful to them and the fortune that it's transitioned to milder variants, compared to earlier on.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Strange messaging from the WHO- 10 days again they said that 10% of the world’s population would need long term support through the effects of Covid- so that’s just 800 million people !

Now saying Covid is over and also employing Tegnell ( herd immunity proponent which has been debunked)as an advisor- their messaging is very mixed to say the least"

Follow the money? Hindsight is 20/20 but not sure the who have done a great job discharging their obligations on this one.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Strange messaging from the WHO- 10 days again they said that 10% of the world’s population would need long term support through the effects of Covid- so that’s just 800 million people !

Now saying Covid is over and also employing Tegnell ( herd immunity proponent which has been debunked)as an advisor- their messaging is very mixed to say the least

Follow the money? Hindsight is 20/20 but not sure the who have done a great job discharging their obligations on this one. "

I'm inclined to agree. Vested interests in, say, city centre rentals or businesses not set up for a pandemic, would want it to be over. Power, too - pandemic measures are unpopular and make people unhappy.

There's also precedent for this - it took several years of "it's nothing, it'll disappear, it'll be fine" for the powers that be to acknowledge the enormous threat of HIV.

It's why I don my respirator outside the home. If other people are willing to risk their lives for the mega wealthy and politicians, that's on them. I won't.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan  over a year ago

Redditch

The most common strain now is highly transmissable but not as dangerous. That said, you wouldn't knowingly go into an old peoples home with flu. Be sensible.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65499929

But he warned the removal of the highest level of alert did not mean the danger was over and said the emergency status could be reinstated if the situation changed.

"The worst thing any country can do now is to use this news as a reason to let down its guard, to dismantle the systems it has built, or to send the message to its people that Covid-19 is nothing to worry about," he said.

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By *hironMan  over a year ago

Leamington Spa

General consensus is covid is in the endemic phase and is likely to be with us forever and coexist with us just like influenza and the common cold.

The WHO making such statements will bring calm to the many regions where much of the population are still frightened to death of the virus.

What is worrying, are the powers the WHO are trying to gain to centralise control and response on a global scale should the world be hit with another pandemic.

Governments across the world are soon to debate whether their countries will sign up the WHO request. If their requests are granted, we are in the shit big time.

The WHO is a private organisation, its members are not elected by governments and the public they serve.

Members of the WHO AND THEIR FAMILIES will be given diplomatic immunity and cannot be held accountable for any mistakes they make.

The members of the WHO are in the pockets of big pharma, Bill and Melinda Gates et al. The conflict of interest is massive.

If their powers are granted, the WHO will control the response of anything they deem a threat and their response will override any laws of countries signed up. They will be able to take control of the people, industry, police, information, vaccines/remedies, health systems etc...

They are posturing for these powers, because something else is coming, they need calm before the next storm.

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man  over a year ago

DUBLIN

It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65499929

But he warned the removal of the highest level of alert did not mean the danger was over and said the emergency status could be reinstated if the situation changed.

"The worst thing any country can do now is to use this news as a reason to let down its guard, to dismantle the systems it has built, or to send the message to its people that Covid-19 is nothing to worry about," he said."

They also said in their announcment that does not mean COVID-19 is over as a global health threat and that there are still 3 deaths a minute and millions more continue to live with the debilitating effects of post-#COVID19 condition while thousands of people around the world are fighting for their lives in intensive care units"

It seems mixed messaging to me but it will please the people who boohoo anyone who is still being careful in their day to day life and trying to avoid it.

Disclaimer, being careful to try and avoid does not equal hiding behind a sofa and never going out. There is a middle ground and lots inbetween

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By *adCherriesCouple  over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest


"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid."

I dont even know were to start with this.

How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend.

HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives.

TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid."

This will age like fine milk

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By *orset.JMan  over a year ago

Weymouth


"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid.

I dont even know were to start with this.

How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend.

HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives.

TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low.

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The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not .

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It was only ever an emergency because the WHO said it was. Officially 6.8M deaths from Covid. In the same 3 year period HIV and TB deaths combined reached 6.5M...I base this on WHO's own stats of 2.5M per year for combined HIV and TB deaths. Yet we have no lockdown or vacines for TB or HIV. So much of the narrative was designed to instill fear to get vaccinated. The Leaked Tory WhatsApp messages clearly show this. Personally I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion and the risks were towards elderly or folks with conditions, which was always the case before Covid.

I dont even know were to start with this.

How are they comparable? Hiv being a STI and TB being a bacterial infection? Covid is a virus- if you can't understand the difference Google is your friend.

HIV isn't caught be coughing/sneezing and there is treatment- plus you don't die straightaway from contracting it, many people now leave long normal lives.

TB has a vaccination called BCG. Prior to that lots of people were vaccinated before 2005 before they stopped it due infection rates being low.

The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not ."

And that's even if we exclude all the other stuff, like the decimation of immune cells (both the group whose loss causes HIV to become AIDS and the one that holds off cancer), the Parkinson's biomarkers, the cardiac damage even after asymptomatic infection, etc. Or the ongoing strain on global healthcare systems by those who continue to need higher levels of care in the acute and subsequent phases

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By *hironMan  over a year ago

Leamington Spa


"The main question is can we afford absorb the effect of 800 million world wide getting Long Covid, I think not ."

I don't think we'll ever see anywhere near 800 million people suffering with long COVID, but i get your point.

We can and do afford the effects to the hundred million or so with prolonged illness or that die through diseases per year. Those numbers are replaced almost equally in births every year. So there will always be enough people in the world to tax or charge privately to keep the coffers topped up.

All figures combined for everything, its only about 1-2% of the global population..and i'm not saying "its only..." as if those lives don't matter, its just fact and I will count in the mortality statistics in 5 years maybe due to my disease.

COVID has shown that illness is a very lucrative business for some. To provide a cure for all illnesses isn't really in the interests of pharmaceutical companies. COVID vaccines were a huge cash cow and there will be other viruses and diseases which will keep the profits rolling in for those firms as time goes on.

Our NHS will eventually be privatised and those that can't afford healthcare will be counted in the mortality stats, but they will hardly add any significant numbers to the global total.

For me, as my disease is rare, there's barely any research in it and there won't be any cure in my lifetime because there's no money it.

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By *teph BitchTV/TS  over a year ago

Manchester

The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds"

I'm not sure that's how anything works.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone else"
Yes, it ended about that time too

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds"

Errr

Why?

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds"

That makes no sense?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds"

Have you traveled back in time?

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By *ady GoodwitchWoman  over a year ago

Witchery wish lane

It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list

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By *adCherriesCouple  over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest


"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list "

Never was a threat? Blimey better tell all those people who died... they are going to feel really silly.

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By *I TwoCouple  over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list "

Who told you that ?

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list

Never was a threat? Blimey better tell all those people who died... they are going to feel really silly. "

Last I checked it's still the third leading cause of death in most wealthy countries. For "not a threat", that seems significant.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds"

Did you hibernate for a while?

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too

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It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list "

Dont be silly.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"The people of the UK werent social distancing for the Coronation and now the PM is having a party. All those people who got fined before for COVID should get refunds

Did you hibernate for a while? "

Yes id like a refund for not listening to or watching or reading the news please.

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By *ch WellMan  over a year ago

Scotland


"My daughter, who works in a US hospital, was told yesterday she can stop wearing a mask. "

I work in a Scottish hospital. Fully expect to be wearing a mask forever more

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By *ch WellMan  over a year ago

Scotland


"It never was a threat, first lockdown it was no 42 in the virus list "

Tell that to the people I helplessly watched die horrible lonely deaths on the COVID wards I worked on for months.

I actually don't know what brains you tinfoil hat wearers thought you were protecting.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too

It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. "

Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that?

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too

It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that?"

Because most people only read the headline and some journalists are no different.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Think for the majority of people it ended early last year, w h o have just caught up with everyone elseYes, it ended about that time too

It hasn't ended and does say so on the WHO announcement. Why would then all the newspapers quoting from the meeting that who had, that it have done that?"

The WHO announced ( real quote follows )

"It is therefore with great hope that I declare #COVID19 over as a global health emergency. However, that does not mean COVID-19 is over as a global health threat."

The threat is still there, the links are all over the net if you don't want to read the one I pasted and the quote above is from the WHO's twitter account

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By *en4menMan  over a year ago

Dungarvan

I'm nurse in hospital.. I saw the works,I seen bodies, I saw fear from colleges, I wouldn't want see that again. I saw a work mate go home and give it to her parents and both of them died.. people that play this down are thick.

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By *entlemanrogueMan  over a year ago

Motherwell

I feel.it was always overhyped, right from the beginning

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

Flagrante

Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.

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By *entlemanrogueMan  over a year ago

Motherwell


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us."

Occasionally i get random messages

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us."

Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical...

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.

Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical... "

They must have a lot of spare time on their hands

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.

Yes and yes they gey progressively nonsensical... "

Oops... *get. Don't want to cast aspersions.

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By *esthetic21Man  over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

Lol

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By *esthetic21Man  over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

I bet some people are devastated at this new

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By *esthetic21Man  over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us."
it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree

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By *esthetic21Man  over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

My opinion is this. Covid is a just another corona virus that have been around for years nothing to worry about. The vaccine was just a massive money making scam it wasnt to hurt anyone to put chips in their arms ect everytime someone got jabbed someone got paid. It was all about money like literally everything in this shit world

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

Flagrante


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree"

I've never pushed my views on any subject on anyone...the messages we are receiving though are pushing their views(or the views of their leaders) on us. Apparently Fab is owned by the organisation that created the covid plan...thats one of this mornings messages...it just gets sillier.

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By *allySlinkyWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.

it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree"

I merely stated a fact that the US hospital my daughter works in has just told her she can stop wearing a mask. That is no way me trying to push my views on anyone.

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By *ch WellMan  over a year ago

Scotland


"My opinion is this. Covid is a just another corona virus that have been around for years nothing to worry about. The vaccine was just a massive money making scam it wasnt to hurt anyone to put chips in their arms ect everytime someone got jabbed someone got paid. It was all about money like literally everything in this shit world"
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You are of course entitled to your view however there are many experts around the world who are better qualified than a random poster on a sex site saying you are wrong.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Does anyone else get PMs from the conspiracy clan when you comment on these threads. The messages are becoming even more bizarre but wondering if it's just us.

it's because you try to.push your views on others and then ridicule them if they disagree

I merely stated a fact that the US hospital my daughter works in has just told her she can stop wearing a mask. That is no way me trying to push my views on anyone. "

I think some people are threatened by anything that's vaguely sensible discussion, even if it's just bland facts, and they respond with this sort of nonsense.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm nurse in hospital.. I saw the works,I seen bodies, I saw fear from colleges, I wouldn't want see that again. I saw a work mate go home and give it to her parents and both of them died.. people that play this down are thick."

Thank you for playing your part.

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By *entlemanrogueMan  over a year ago

Motherwell


"I'm nurse in hospital.. I saw the works,I seen bodies, I saw fear from colleges, I wouldn't want see that again. I saw a work mate go home and give it to her parents and both of them died.. people that play this down are thick."

I am not saying people didnt die from Covid, just that they claimed it was far deadlier than it turned out to be.

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By *ch WellMan  over a year ago

Scotland

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Ok peoples profiles shouldn't be discussed nor should we get personal about posters.( posts removed )

To the OP, it might be best to post a headline to the thread in context or the full headline otherwise when it is only half we only get half the picture.

For anyone who wants to know the full story please look on the WHO website or the many News links that are reporting the same thing but it is best to read the whole article rather than just the headline to get the full picture.

Might be time to close

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