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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " What does it mean? | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? " It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message" You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " Not really, its what happens when a massive global company uses all it's available resources to help save humanity. If you had been a Pfizer employee would you have sacrificed your salary to work on a COVID vaccine ? Sould shareholders who invested money to support the company and enabled them to make the vaccine not be rewarded ? If you have a pension scheme you may well benefit. To some people 20 billion seems like a lot of money and they aren't capable of comprehending finances on a global scale. So what's your point ? Putin and Biden and even BJ got together to scam you ? | |||
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"Shell made record profits... I think tesla did too... US companies profits surge during pandemic... And so on. Yes it makes you wonder " B&Q did rather well as did our local spar. | |||
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" B&Q did rather well as did our local spar." Finally, the source of the global economy is revealed. It's a Spar in Northern Ireland.  | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it." The Government didn't "buy" it and no one forced people to take it. Winston | |||
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"It’s been about protecting people from Covid from the start." True, very true. Winston | |||
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"i made 198 million in one night, anythings possible."  | |||
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"It’s been about protecting people from Covid from the start. True, very true. Winston " Haha | |||
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"Yes, they make lots. I read an article from last year how pfizer, biontech and moderna is making $1,000 profit every second." Each, or between them? US dollars, or Australian ones? | |||
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" B&Q did rather well as did our local spar. Finally, the source of the global economy is revealed. It's a Spar in Northern Ireland. "It's all true. In the back store room of this Northern Ireland Spar a man sits glued to multiple screens showing price fluctuation in the global markets. He calmly strokes the white cat purring on his lap while Maureen out front makes him tea and an exotic flavoured pot noodle. Kettle on, nukes on standby. | |||
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" B&Q did rather well as did our local spar. Finally, the source of the global economy is revealed. It's a Spar in Northern Ireland.
It's all true.
In the back store room of this Northern Ireland Spar a man sits glued to multiple screens showing price fluctuation in the global markets.
He calmly strokes the white cat purring on his lap while Maureen out front makes him tea and an exotic flavoured pot noodle.
Kettle on, nukes on standby.
"Isn't that the opening scene of that great cross over movie snatch meets Austin powers ? | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it. The Government didn't "buy" it and no one forced people to take it. Winston" What do you mean the government didn't buy it? The NHS has paid Pfizer 3.76 billion for 189 million doses. | |||
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"It’s been about protecting people from Covid from the start. True, very true. Winston " Loving your work here! Gbat | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " You’re out by SIX BILLION..reported figure is TWENTY SIX BILLION..they’re going to hope the old ‘rona sticks around a while longer too | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it You’re out by SIX BILLION..reported figure is TWENTY SIX BILLION..they’re going to hope the old ‘rona sticks around a while longer too" I'm quite happy they've made a profit from the vaccines. Making a profit means they'll stay in business, have money to invest in future health protection projects and their employees remain in employment. I'm sure there was another thing....hang on, it'll come to me....... Oh yes, they helped save millions of lives and allowed us a return to some sense of normality, that was it. Winston | |||
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol " Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes. 
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes.
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"About AZ being too humanitarian?" HUMANITARIAN! Lol good one | |||
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes.
Winston "Haha Winston’s a comedian obviously lol… | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it You’re out by SIX BILLION..reported figure is TWENTY SIX BILLION..they’re going to hope the old ‘rona sticks around a while longer too I'm quite happy they've made a profit from the vaccines. Making a profit means they'll stay in business, have money to invest in future health protection projects and their employees remain in employment. I'm sure there was another thing....hang on, it'll come to me....... Oh yes, they helped save millions of lives and allowed us a return to some sense of normality, that was it. Winston" I often come and have a nosey at these threads to see how people are still treating this Constant entertainment at... Winston ...Who feels the need to sign off on his staggeringly naive takes, for some reason.  | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it You’re out by SIX BILLION..reported figure is TWENTY SIX BILLION..they’re going to hope the old ‘rona sticks around a while longer too I'm quite happy they've made a profit from the vaccines. Making a profit means they'll stay in business, have money to invest in future health protection projects and their employees remain in employment. I'm sure there was another thing....hang on, it'll come to me....... Oh yes, they helped save millions of lives and allowed us a return to some sense of normality, that was it. Winston I often come and have a nosey at these threads to see how people are still treating this Constant entertainment at... Winston ...Who feels the need to sign off on his staggeringly naive takes, for some reason. "Just let's people know which of us is posting. Seems kinda obvs..... '\ /'
I've you think the post you're responding to is naive..... pffft.
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes.
Winston
Haha Winston’s a comedian obviously lol…
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion.
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it You’re out by SIX BILLION..reported figure is TWENTY SIX BILLION..they’re going to hope the old ‘rona sticks around a while longer too I'm quite happy they've made a profit from the vaccines. Making a profit means they'll stay in business, have money to invest in future health protection projects and their employees remain in employment. I'm sure there was another thing....hang on, it'll come to me....... Oh yes, they helped save millions of lives and allowed us a return to some sense of normality, that was it. Winston I often come and have a nosey at these threads to see how people are still treating this Constant entertainment at... Winston ...Who feels the need to sign off on his staggeringly naive takes, for some reason. " | |||
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"A company developed something that fit a large need, and made a profit. Oh noes, capitalism is awful "“Well I don’t like it and I won’t have it! Yours angrily, E.N. Raged, Rantsville Sent from my smartphone/tablet/laptop, via my broadband connection whilst sat on mass produced furniture, during an ad break on my huge flat screen TV.” | |||
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"A company developed something that fit a large need, and made a profit. Oh noes, capitalism is awful
“Well I don’t like it and I won’t have it!
Yours angrily,
E.N. Raged, Rantsville
Sent from my smartphone/tablet/laptop, via my broadband connection whilst sat on mass produced furniture, during an ad break on my huge flat screen TV.”
"It's fine if furniture companies make money, but medicine needs to be a charity operated by independently wealthy people, because reasons | |||
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes.
Winston
Haha Winston’s a comedian obviously lol…
I try not to fly in the face of public opinion.
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " I think this was abundantly clear from the outset. However, if we are more than two years on and it is making you wonder, then that is a start. Don't see many queueing for the 5th shot just now. That Covid thing seems to be kinda done with... it's that sorta Ukrainian thing now and the electricity and North Sea Gas thing. Oh yeah and runaway inflation on food. Everyone seems to be making such great profits just now. Soon we'll all be rich what with trickledown economics and all that. | |||
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"Glad I wasn’t stupid enough to inject myself with any of em… All a load of old money making waffle.. Mehhhh lol Injecting yourself would have been stupid, yes.
Winston
Haha Winston’s a comedian obviously lol…
I try not to fly in the face of public opinion.
Winston
You didn't answer my question"You didn't ask one. Winston | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it. The Government didn't "buy" it and no one forced people to take it. Winston What do you mean the government didn't buy it? The NHS has paid Pfizer 3.76 billion for 189 million doses. " This one Winston | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it. The Government didn't "buy" it and no one forced people to take it. Winston" Find me a non state entity that purchased COVID vaccines. Remind me the point of the COVID passes Remind me the reason for the freedom convoy in Canada. | |||
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" Remind me the reason for the freedom convoy in Canada." It was an extraordinarily successful fundraising exercise for the fraudsters, and the fumb fighters got to display their undying loyalty to their masters by putting their children into traffic | |||
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" Remind me the reason for the freedom convoy in Canada. It was an extraordinarily successful fundraising exercise for the fraudsters, and the fumb fighters got to display their undying loyalty to their masters by putting their children into traffic " Freedumb. But with a w after the f. Damn filter  | |||
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"Bullshit my friend. Google largest criminal fine in history. Big pharma criminality is not a conspiracy, its 24/7 fact. " 1. Very few facts are part time. It's one of the things you can really trust about facts. No weekends off for facts. No sickies. There they are, being factual, ALLLL the time. 2. Accepting that only one company can possibly have received the biggest fine in history, plenty of other companies have undoubtedly received big fines for things. If you refused to deal with any of them you'd be foraging for sticks to heat yourself and to cook the food you'd scavenged.... because you'd have rejected all energy suppliers and supermarkets on the same ethical grounds. | |||
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"Bullshit my friend. Google largest criminal fine in history. Big pharma criminality is not a conspiracy, its 24/7 fact. 1. Very few facts are part time. It's one of the things you can really trust about facts. No weekends off for facts. No sickies. There they are, being factual, ALLLL the time. 2. Accepting that only one company can possibly have received the biggest fine in history, plenty of other companies have undoubtedly received big fines for things. If you refused to deal with any of them you'd be foraging for sticks to heat yourself and to cook the food you'd scavenged.... because you'd have rejected all energy suppliers and supermarkets on the same ethical grounds. " Same as if you accepted this all or nothing safety standard for vaccines for everything else, you wouldn't live in a building, eat or drink anything, drive - heck, even walking is sketchy. Breathing might be challenging too if everything is either 100% safe or to be condemned. | |||
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"Bullshit my friend. Google largest criminal fine in history. Big pharma criminality is not a conspiracy, its 24/7 fact. 1. Very few facts are part time. It's one of the things you can really trust about facts. No weekends off for facts. No sickies. There they are, being factual, ALLLL the time. 2. Accepting that only one company can possibly have received the biggest fine in history, plenty of other companies have undoubtedly received big fines for things. If you refused to deal with any of them you'd be foraging for sticks to heat yourself and to cook the food you'd scavenged.... because you'd have rejected all energy suppliers and supermarkets on the same ethical grounds. Same as if you accepted this all or nothing safety standard for vaccines for everything else, you wouldn't live in a building, eat or drink anything, drive - heck, even walking is sketchy. Breathing might be challenging too if everything is either 100% safe or to be condemned." And you couldn't have money either. Those banks, tsk | |||
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They need to do well to ensure that their is growth in the economy. | |||
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" B&Q did rather well as did our local spar. Finally, the source of the global economy is revealed. It's a Spar in Northern Ireland.
It's all true.
In the back store room of this Northern Ireland Spar a man sits glued to multiple screens showing price fluctuation in the global markets.
He calmly strokes the white cat purring on his lap while Maureen out front makes him tea and an exotic flavoured pot noodle.
Kettle on, nukes on standby.
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"What frustrates me about the people that moan about big companies and corporations making profits is that these self same people will also moan if their pensions don’t do well, private or state… Where do you think your pension money is invested..?? Big corporations…
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"Companies make money shock..sod.off" I'm not so sure it's companies making money. After all they need to make money to employ people. It's the vast amounts of profit that are being made, and the lack of trickle down to train and provide better for their employees. Zero hours contracts, contingent workers, 3rd World production, damage to the environment. So profits are good. Profits with a lack of conscience are not very good. In this particular case, the entire population of the planet being told they must have not just one or two but three and more of their product is a captive market and so just feels a little...bleargh. Good for those with shares in the company though. | |||
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"Companies make money shock..sod.off I'm not so sure it's companies making money. After all they need to make money to employ people. It's the vast amounts of profit that are being made, and the lack of trickle down to train and provide better for their employees. Zero hours contracts, contingent workers, 3rd World production, damage to the environment. So profits are good. Profits with a lack of conscience are not very good. In this particular case, the entire population of the planet being told they must have not just one or two but three and more of their product is a captive market and so just feels a little...bleargh. Good for those with shares in the company though. " Very eloquently put | |||
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"Companies make money shock..sod.off I'm not so sure it's companies making money. After all they need to make money to employ people. It's the vast amounts of profit that are being made, and the lack of trickle down to train and provide better for their employees. Zero hours contracts, contingent workers, 3rd World production, damage to the environment. So profits are good. Profits with a lack of conscience are not very good. In this particular case, the entire population of the planet being told they must have not just one or two but three and more of their product is a captive market and so just feels a little...bleargh. Good for those with shares in the company though. " What are you doing?
Coming in here and typing a considered response and not being tribalistic and triggered!
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " You may have responded but this thread got bogged down in the usual muck throwing... What is it that it makes you wonder OP? What are you uncomfortable with in this context? I try (often fail) to take a balanced view on most things. So on the one hand the creation of covid vaccines that reduced the impact of covid on the world by a commercial company seems like a good thing. On the other, the vast profits (and bully boy tactics employed by Pfizer, particularly with African countries*) and push for boosters (with understandable scepticism over reduced efficacy) does make some of their actions morally questionable. Pfizer are not a good company. They have some very bad historic actions against them. But did their vaccine help save the world from a worse pandemic result? *Many countries in Africa were forced (can’t use the word on here but first word is “black” and second is “mailed”) to change their laws and legislation over corporate liability for medical/medicines compensation to indemnify Pfizer against lawsuits from adverse reactions. If these countries did not change their laws they were told they would not get the vaccine. | |||
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"Companies make money shock..sod.off I'm not so sure it's companies making money. After all they need to make money to employ people. It's the vast amounts of profit that are being made, and the lack of trickle down to train and provide better for their employees. Zero hours contracts, contingent workers, 3rd World production, damage to the environment. So profits are good. Profits with a lack of conscience are not very good. In this particular case, the entire population of the planet being told they must have not just one or two but three and more of their product is a captive market and so just feels a little...bleargh. Good for those with shares in the company though. " I'd prefer there were a viable alternative, certainly. But the market is not yet sufficiently diversified, and the alternatives seem to be a) a gamble on your health that seems somewhere south of foolish* by any reputable numbers, or b) restrictions and all that they entail. * People are entitled to do things that are foolish. Additionally, I'm allowed to think they're foolish. Would I prefer to divorce my life from the disgusting, unethical, immoral practices of many companies? Sure. Unfortunately I need to eat, clothe myself, use ordinary consumer products, etc, am only human, and do not have the independent wealth necessary to extricate myself from oil and other polluters, exploitative food production, etc, etc. | |||
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"A company developed something that fit a large need, and made a profit. Oh noes, capitalism is awful
“Well I don’t like it and I won’t have it!
Yours angrily,
E.N. Raged, Rantsville
Sent from my smartphone/tablet/laptop, via my broadband connection whilst sat on mass produced furniture, during an ad break on my huge flat screen TV.”
It's fine if furniture companies make money, but medicine needs to be a charity operated by independently wealthy people, because reasons"Please can I steal that for future arguments? “BECUASE REASONS!!!!! So there!!” | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston" no not at all....the most profit they have ever made in their history in the first quarter. Its all so like they only made the vaccine to make profit not to mention they are with holding patents ect not allowing the "cure" to be shared like it should | |||
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"Yes, they make lots. I read an article from last year how pfizer, biontech and moderna is making $1,000 profit every second. Each, or between them? US dollars, or Australian ones? " It is for each one and in us dollars too. | |||
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"To add to the above, it's obviously emotive when we see such massive profits being made, when very many folks have had their livelihoods destroyed by the very same event, by lockdowns, track and trace policies etc when they've been prevented from working and whilst at the same time have to sit and watch a monopoly being gifted such a massive and guaranteed opportunity... With governments around the globe doing their relentless advertising and marketing for them and then dictating that everyone must have them... Over 11. 7 billion doses delivered so far. When said governments and companies are mired in corrupt practises, nepotism, cronyism and questionable business engagement models. Yes life is unfair but it doesn't mean we have to sit and watch silently. " What marketing had governments done for them? Do you see massive "Pfizer" or "Moderna" banners at vaccination centres? What monopoly is there? There are currently six different vaccines approved for use in the UK. Pfizer beat others in the race to develop their vaccine and have it approved in the UK. Is there evidence of corruption or nepotism being the case here? As mentioned above, there are now six different coronavirus vaccines available in the UK. | |||
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"Shell made record profits... I think tesla did too... US companies profits surge during pandemic... And so on. Yes it makes you wonder " yea around 80 milli9n quid a day. But apparently there's a cost of living crisis..... that's pure greed 80 million pound PROFIT per day | |||
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"A company developed something that fit a large need, and made a profit. Oh noes, capitalism is awful
“Well I don’t like it and I won’t have it!
Yours angrily,
E.N. Raged, Rantsville
Sent from my smartphone/tablet/laptop, via my broadband connection whilst sat on mass produced furniture, during an ad break on my huge flat screen TV.”
It's fine if furniture companies make money, but medicine needs to be a charity operated by independently wealthy people, because reasons
Please can I steal that for future arguments?
“BECUASE REASONS!!!!! So there!!”
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"To add to the above, it's obviously emotive when we see such massive profits being made, when very many folks have had their livelihoods destroyed by the very same event, by lockdowns, track and trace policies etc when they've been prevented from working and whilst at the same time have to sit and watch a monopoly being gifted such a massive and guaranteed opportunity... With governments around the globe doing their relentless advertising and marketing for them and then dictating that everyone must have them... Over 11. 7 billion doses delivered so far. When said governments and companies are mired in corrupt practises, nepotism, cronyism and questionable business engagement models. Yes life is unfair but it doesn't mean we have to sit and watch silently. " Sit and watch quietly. Not me sir. I'm going to get all disgruntled and vent my anger and repulsion on various sex sites. I know for a fact this has an enormous impact on global events, especially in the oil and gas industry. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " Ah... so you're saying that if it wasn't for the covid vaccine, they'd have only made $10 billion? | |||
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"Well, I’ve just had my fourth Pfizer jab today. I don’t care who’s arguing about how much they’re making. " Hope you keep safe, well and enjoy life to the full. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " they are not in it for the money; it’s all about saving life. After all; they are looking for FDA approval to jab 6 month old babies in the USA! | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it they are not in it for the money; it’s all about saving life. After all; they are looking for FDA approval to jab 6 month old babies in the USA! " Haha they are not in it for the money!! Their not a charity, I think you will find they probably are in it for the money and laughing all the way to their mansions over looking the plebs. | |||
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"Memory getting hazy but pretty sure Pfizer refused Govt finance for R&D (unlike for example, AZ) so that they could dictate price and other factors." | |||
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"Why should they take finance? Plus they are British and Pfizer is American. Memory getting hazy but pretty sure Pfizer refused Govt finance for R&D (unlike for example, AZ) so that they could dictate price and other factors." I said Govt not British Govt. All around the world govts were providing R&D finance to speed up the process etc. Pfizer opted to finance everything themselves in order to be able to dictate their own terms including unit price etc. Of course they didn’t have to take Govt support, and they chose not to. Not sure what point you are making? | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..???????? "I'm very grateful you're ok. I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause. Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare. | |||
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"I mean no one in government did any dodgy deals did they not here in the uk surely not " They did lots of dodgy deals, mostly with their mates for PPE and testing. There's been no evidence of dodgy deals in relation to the vaccines. | |||
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"I mean no one in government did any dodgy deals did they not here in the uk surely not They did lots of dodgy deals, mostly with their mates for PPE and testing. There's been no evidence of dodgy deals in relation to the vaccines." I looked at some of the food parcels following Rashford speaking up, and it wouldn't stun me if that was a non standard procurement too. A Tory donor owns the new HMRC building in Newcastle and has got a pretty sweet deal. So... Food and taxes are evil too? Or is it just government corruption? | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare."@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000. From GOV.UK “Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people) - Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen). - serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])” https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca | |||
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"Follow the patents, follow the release of documentations and vaccine trials follow the investors follow the money….. " Ah, Innuendo and implication. What people use when they don't have evidence | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca"I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to. If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want. I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler. Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher. | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to.
If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want.
I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler.
Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher."Oh I hear you re bad shit but stats matter for context. | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to.
If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want.
I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler.
Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher.
Oh I hear you re bad shit but stats matter for context. "BTW that is not a missing apostrophe
Not saying “Oh I hear you’re bad shit” but “Oh I hear you regarding bad shit”
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to.
If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want.
I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler.
Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher.
Oh I hear you re bad shit but stats matter for context.
BTW that is not a missing apostrophe
Not saying “Oh I hear you’re bad shit” but “Oh I hear you regarding bad shit”
"Got it, all fine. I did a quick search and took the numbers from a quick scan of reliable sites as read. Like most, I'm no longer as invested in it. Regardless, the known risks of Covid infection, particularly without vaccination, clearly outweigh the risks of vaccination. Even when the risks of vaccination hit close to home - as they have done for me. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it." I wasn't forced at all | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to.
If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want.
I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler.
Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher.
Oh I hear you re bad shit but stats matter for context. "Whaaaaat? Facts matter.? Next you'll be saying risks are different for different ages... | |||
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"I thankfully survived a heart attack specifically caused by the 3rd vaccine which caused a blood clot…..????????
I'm very grateful you're ok.
I'm also very grateful for vaccines. Given Covid isn't going away and we're all going to get it, we need to look at overall risk. Numbers suggest that blood clots following Covid infection are at least ten times higher than following vaccination, and there's all sorts of other horrifying after effects following Covid that are reduced after vaccination, that vaccination doesn't cause.
Only a blithering innumerate moron would suggest that clots in 1 in 100 000 is worse than 1 in 10 000 plus a bunch of other bad shit. Fortunately these blithering innumerate morons are exceedingly rare.
@_naswingdress, I need to look up Pfizer if I get time, but the blood clot stats for AZ was 1 in 10,000.
From GOV.UK
“Very rare (may affect up to 1 in 10,000 people)
- Following widespread use of the vaccine there have been extremely rare reports of blood clots in combination with low level of blood platelets. When these blood clots do occur, they may be in unusual or atypical locations (e.g. brain, liver, bowel, spleen).
- serious nerve inflammation, which may cause paralysis and difficulty breathing (Guillain-Barré syndrome [GBS])”
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca
I did a quick search, but it was sort of like, up to.
If we're all going to get this, would you rather be in the group with less bad shit or more bad shit? Ultimately that's what this boils down to. Vaccines have less bad shit and reduce your risk of bad shit when you have Covid. Not just blood clots. A whole lot of other shit you don't want.
I have a relative who nearly died after a non Covid vaccine. Has had permanent side effects, and this happened when I was a toddler.
Did I get that vaccine? Yup. I'm on schedule. Because that effect is about 1 in a million, and that effect in the actual illness is significantly higher.
Oh I hear you re bad shit but stats matter for context.
Whaaaaat? Facts matter.? Next you'll be saying risks are different for different ages... "People also make mistakes in good faith, and their points are still valid | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Not really, its what happens when a massive global company uses all it's available resources to help save humanity. " Save humanity is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Did it save lives, yes, without a doubt. Would humanity have carried on trucking without it, yes it definitely would have. Its far from a humanity ending disease. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... " Wrong, Pfizer wasnt | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... " Which country did Pfizer take investment from, please? | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Which country did Pfizer take investment from, please?" They got some money from Germany but I think that was directed at Biontec who developed the vaccine and Germany got a better price per vaccine afaik | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Which country did Pfizer take investment from, please? They got some money from Germany but I think that was directed at Biontec who developed the vaccine and Germany got a better price per vaccine afaik" Fair, I didn't know that. But that would seem to be a significant return on investment for the Germans. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... " Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston"I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it What does it mean? It means a corporation has stopped selling one of its products at zero margin. "Capitalism, grrrr" is presumably the message You can't say capitalism when the governments bought it and forced people to take it. The Government didn't "buy" it and no one forced people to take it. Winston What do you mean the government didn't buy it? The NHS has paid Pfizer 3.76 billion for 189 million doses. " Bargain! | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre."I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility. £175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean. Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product. But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit. Winston | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston "Yup. If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches "All I'm seeing now is Ernest Bloefeld sat with a cat on his lap..... While plotting world domination.
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches
All I'm seeing now is Ernest Bloefeld sat with a cat on his lap..... While plotting world domination.
Winston"That's the one. If you're gonna go evil, go proper evil. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches
All I'm seeing now is Ernest Bloefeld sat with a cat on his lap..... While plotting world domination.
Winston
That's the one.
If you're gonna go evil, go proper evil."Bond - so Bloefeld, I suppose you expect me to talk..... Bloefeld- Nooo Mr Bond, I expect you to take the vaccine..... *evil laugh........... Winston | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches
All I'm seeing now is Ernest Bloefeld sat with a cat on his lap..... While plotting world domination.
Winston
That's the one.
If you're gonna go evil, go proper evil.
Bond - so Bloefeld, I suppose you expect me to talk.....
Bloefeld- Nooo Mr Bond, I expect you to take the vaccine.....
*evil laugh...........
Winston " | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston "Well the business model seems to work rather well for them. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Well the business model seems to work rather well for them. "Amy business model that's works is working well.....
Just imagine it failing and Pfizer going out of business.
No more paracetamol.
*cue the sound of people wailing because big pharma is failing and people have headaches......
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Not really, its what happens when a massive global company uses all it's available resources to help save humanity. If you had been a Pfizer employee would you have sacrificed your salary to work on a COVID vaccine ? Sould shareholders who invested money to support the company and enabled them to make the vaccine not be rewarded ? If you have a pension scheme you may well benefit. To some people 20 billion seems like a lot of money and they aren't capable of comprehending finances on a global scale. So what's your point ? Putin and Biden and even BJ got together to scam you ?" You say used it’s resources...without our asking they were technically socially funded by being paid through our taxes. I didn’t want one yet my taxes went to it. Then it was privately profited. So we all paid for it, without consent. Yet a few profit from it. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches "or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole"Yes yes, big pharma is making us all ill. I respect your right to believe all the stupid things you want. You do you. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole
Yes yes, big pharma is making us all ill. I respect your right to believe all the stupid things you want. You do you."It's rather disingenuous to pretend that pharma have not had scandal and enormous lawsuits from for example the opioid abuse they nurtured. I'm sure a Google search will throw up a few more. Yes they do good stuff but they've done bad stuff too. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole
Yes yes, big pharma is making us all ill. I respect your right to believe all the stupid things you want. You do you.
It's rather disingenuous to pretend that pharma have not had scandal and enormous lawsuits from for example the opioid abuse they nurtured. I'm sure a Google search will throw up a few more. Yes they do good stuff but they've done bad stuff too. "It's also disingenuous to claim that this undermines what they've achieved, or to deny their right to claim a profit like literally any other industry, or to claim that this is some massive conspiracy to make us all sick. All sorts of industries have been embroiled in all sorts of scandals which have harmed all sorts of people. Ooga booga big food teach the conspiracy don't eat sheeple | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole
Yes yes, big pharma is making us all ill. I respect your right to believe all the stupid things you want. You do you."How mature. Well, enjoy your 5th jab...then 6th...then 7th | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston
Yup.
If they were truly evil overlords etc they'd skip all the shit that doesn't work and just print money, twiddling their moustaches or they’d find ways to make people ill. Then sell them the cure. Go look up how they weaseled out of being banned from operating in 2009. Criminal, scandalous, survived through a loop hole
Yes yes, big pharma is making us all ill. I respect your right to believe all the stupid things you want. You do you.
How mature. Well, enjoy your 5th jab...then 6th...then 7th"I had my fifth months ago and I'm fine. Thank you. | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. " They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! | |||
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"Shares in tinfoil rising.... Winston" Big plastic wrap will be most displeased. | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal!" Really? | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " Vaccines don’t grow on trees, so they? | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! Really?" Lol | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal!" I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " So do we expect a windfall tax from this or should it be reinvested into further research and development? | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal!" WTF!  | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal!" Struggling with this one, but it has been a long day at work. Have I got this correct. They, meaning pharma companies, have found a cure for cancer? These companies cannot make a profit from this cure? (not too sure why this would be). As the pharma company cannot make a profit the pharma company has made the product illegal? Is that about right? Wasn't aware a private company could make a product illegal, a government body maybe, but a company? Please advise. | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal!" There are hundreds of different cancers, and your comment is frankly insulting to anyone who’s had cancer, hope you’re proud of yourself. | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Which country did Pfizer take investment from, please?" The UK £34,000,000 USA $70,000,000 Same with Astrazenica | |||
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"And don't forget with all the "vaccines" it was though massive investment from taxpayers money. So we paid to develop them and paid heavily inflated prices to get them and the companies keep the profits..... Meanwhile in an alternative reality, no one invests in medical research, no health benefitting medicines are discovered and pharmaceutical companies don't make any profit. And people die....... Oh how the people rejoice. Well, the half a dozen left alive do anyway.
Winston
I think some people would actually prefer this. Which is bizarre.
I used to work in Life Sciences, one of my last projects was building a research facility.
£175 million and 3+ years to build it. God knows how many years to develop a successful product, God knows how long to get it fully certified and in the marketplace, God knows how much spent on salaries, service charges, marketing and God knows what else, before they make a bean.
Yes, they make a tidy old profit when the make a successful product.
But my god it costs a lot to get to that place. Not forgetting not all research ends in success and not all products make huge profit.
Winston "But that's not Pfizers business model they buy up smaller research and pharmaceutical companies along with the intellectual property Pfizer didn't make their jab it was a smaller company they bought | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. " Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿ | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" The 1939 Cancer Act says no such thing. 
The long title of the Act;
"An Act to make further provision for the treatment of cancer, to authorise the Minister of Health to lend money to the National Radium Trust, to prohibit certain advertisements relating to cancer, and for purposes connected with the matters aforesaid"
Literally 6 seconds googling.
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" The "Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web" article is about cannabis oil FFS. winston | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿ The 1939 Cancer Act says no such thing.
The long title of the Act;
"An Act to make further provision for the treatment of cancer, to authorise the Minister of Health to lend money to the National Radium Trust, to prohibit certain advertisements relating to cancer, and for purposes connected with the matters aforesaid"
Literally 6 seconds googling.
Winston"yes they make changes try view the original as section 4 is constantly being changed and got changed last on 17th April 2022 | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿ The "Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web" article is about cannabis oil FFS. winston" so are you saying cannabis has no healing properties in it fit to fight cancers? | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿ The 1939 Cancer Act says no such thing.
The long title of the Act;
"An Act to make further provision for the treatment of cancer, to authorise the Minister of Health to lend money to the National Radium Trust, to prohibit certain advertisements relating to cancer, and for purposes connected with the matters aforesaid"
Literally 6 seconds googling.
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yes they make changes try view the original as section 4 is constantly being changed and got changed last on 17th April 2022"Nope. The 17th April 2022 changes do not state "you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution" Thats absolute bollocks. The act is clear as day and so easy to find. Winston | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿ The "Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web" article is about cannabis oil FFS. winston so are you saying cannabis has no healing properties in it fit to fight cancers?" No. You've stated the Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web case supports the 1939 Cancer Act. I'm saying it doesn't support the Act and relates to a cannabis oil case. The Act and the case are not linked as you alluded to. Winston | |||
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" You've stated the Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web case supports the 1939 Cancer Act. I'm saying it doesn't support the Act and relates to a cannabis oil case. The Act and the case are not linked as you alluded to. Winston" I have never stated this sorry | |||
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" You've stated the Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web case supports the 1939 Cancer Act. I'm saying it doesn't support the Act and relates to a cannabis oil case. The Act and the case are not linked as you alluded to. Winston I have never stated this sorry" Why do you keep banging on about cures for cancer and quoting utter nonsense. Do you know how hurtful that it to anyone who has or has had cancer? Or their relatives? Try thinking before posting hurtful rubbish. | |||
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" You've stated the Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web case supports the 1939 Cancer Act. I'm saying it doesn't support the Act and relates to a cannabis oil case. The Act and the case are not linked as you alluded to. Winston I have never stated this sorry" This is a direct copy and paste of your post; "Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" Winston | |||
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" You've stated the Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web case supports the 1939 Cancer Act. I'm saying it doesn't support the Act and relates to a cannabis oil case. The Act and the case are not linked as you alluded to. Winston I have never stated this sorry Why do you keep banging on about cures for cancer and quoting utter nonsense. Do you know how hurtful that it to anyone who has or has had cancer? Or their relatives? Try thinking before posting hurtful rubbish." I'm sure those who have lost people, who have friends, family or themselves left with diminished capacity from Covid, feel the same about a lot of the things posted here  | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" I knew someone was going to mention cannabis oil. There's no categorical evidence to support it is a cure. There's some research that shows some chemicals may be a potential treatment. However, (from memory) in the UK you only have a place on a clinical trial if you agree to stop all other treatments or not had any previously. So if people agree to trial it then it's a massive risk to their lives. Also do you not think that when someone studies a medical degree they're not taught about the different acts? I was taught pharmacy law and ethics, which covered government acts as part of it. Furthermore I witnessed my dad die from cancer and that's all I'll say about that. | |||
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" If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! I spent years studying pharmacy at university. There isn't a cure for cancer. Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" Generally scientific research evidence will include their statistical analysis of the results, rather than attempt to make a claim as a cure, such as some snakeoil product touted in advertisements. Consultants will avail themselves of the evidence and aren't likely to tout anything as a cure either, with something like the 5 years survival rates being reasonable guides to outcomes. | |||
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"They have the cure for cancer but THEY can't profit off it that's why they have made it illegal! Not many people know of this but here in the UK we have the relatively unknown 1939 Cancer Act, which states you can only "cure" Cancer with Chemotherapy, Radiation or Surgery, and anyone who makes claims to have cured cancer in any other way is liable for prosecution re:- Rick Simpson oil + Charlotte's Web¿" Have a read of this from Cancer Research UK, it will hopefully help you understand the Act further and hopefully stop you spreading misinformation. Also, I don't think your post shows any empathy to other peoples situations who have lost family members and the vulnerabilities that someone with Cancer could be feeling. https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2016/02/19/the-1939-cancer-act/ | |||
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"There are idiots out there claiming soursop can cure cancer. There are people who are refusing cancer treatment, and opting to eat a fruit hoping that will cure them. Did it cure them? No, the cancer spread instead. It's not a f*cking conspiracy, it's to protect people." Or black salve. It'll eat your tissue and not cure the cancer. | |||
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"There are idiots out there claiming soursop can cure cancer. There are people who are refusing cancer treatment, and opting to eat a fruit hoping that will cure them. Did it cure them? No, the cancer spread instead. It's not a f*cking conspiracy, it's to protect people. Or black salve. It'll eat your tissue and not cure the cancer." Another one of the "alternative treatments" with zero evidence of treating cancer. Just a way for people to make money conning people and shouldn't be legally allowed. | |||
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"There are idiots out there claiming soursop can cure cancer. There are people who are refusing cancer treatment, and opting to eat a fruit hoping that will cure them. Did it cure them? No, the cancer spread instead. It's not a f*cking conspiracy, it's to protect people. Or black salve. It'll eat your tissue and not cure the cancer. Another one of the "alternative treatments" with zero evidence of treating cancer. Just a way for people to make money conning people and shouldn't be legally allowed. " Indeed. Just fraudsters making money from human suffering, and sending their disciples after the regulated* part of the industry. * Note I said "regulated", not "perfect" | |||
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"Some cancers are inoperable. Some people are frightened and desperate. Some people are shysters and con men and will take advantage of these two details. Scum of the earth..... There's a special place in Hell for them. Winston" This desperation extends beyond cancer fraudsters and into Covid fraudsters. Where there's fear, desperation, and few easy answers, there's conspiracy mongering and fraud. And finger pointing at those who actually try to solve the problem. And denial of evidence, because it makes people deeply uncomfortable. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston" there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ... | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ..." There is a cure for cancer but it's illegal? What utter twaddle. Winston | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ..." The fact you articulate your comment in this way..."there is a cure for cancer" is ample explanation you have absolutely no idea of the complexity of the disease called cancer. It's not only a foolish remark but extremely disingenuous and thoughtless to those who have or will succumb and those working in such a challenging field of medicine. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ... The fact you articulate your comment in this way..."there is a cure for cancer" is ample explanation you have absolutely no idea of the complexity of the disease called cancer. It's not only a foolish remark but extremely disingenuous and thoughtless to those who have or will succumb and those working in such a challenging field of medicine. " | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ... The fact you articulate your comment in this way..."there is a cure for cancer" is ample explanation you have absolutely no idea of the complexity of the disease called cancer. It's not only a foolish remark but extremely disingenuous and thoughtless to those who have or will succumb and those working in such a challenging field of medicine. You might have nice tits too but difficult to see " | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ..." Yep, I agree there is a cure for cancer, I had RT, Chemo and invasive surgery, so I no longer have cancer..... but I presume this wasn't what you meant? What a foolish and frankly insulting comment to make. | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it Doesn't make me wonder at all. If they found a cure for cancer their profits would be astronomical, everyone would say how amazing it is and its wonderful they're saving so many lives and people wouldn't give a shit how much profit they made. But because its Covid related profit..........horrors. Winston there is a cure for cancer but its been illegal for a reason..incica strain 40%+ thc oil..cancer is a buisness to these monsters making new and difrent drugs for every kind of cancer and other ilness too has made them trillionares ... Yep, I agree there is a cure for cancer, I had RT, Chemo and invasive surgery, so I no longer have cancer..... but I presume this wasn't what you meant? What a foolish and frankly insulting comment to make. " I'm glad that medicine has been there for you | |||
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"Announced they have made more profit in the first quarter this year than they did the whole of last year around 20 billion and over 50% of that has come from covid vaccines. Makes you wonder doesn't it " Why on earth does it make you wonder? They had a solution to a problem and made a profit from it. They are a business not charity. | |||
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"The point of any business is to make profits It’s all about scale as well there volume of sales would of been huge modest margin on massive sales equals big profit Without previous profits to make it a solid business they wouldn’t of been in a position to research and develop vaccines Capping profits would be counter productive you’d just stop once you reach the cap why work for nothing " "The point of any business is to make profits"... Yep very true. And the obligation of the board is to secure return on share holders funds. Important to bear that in mind when discussing companies who some seem to present as altruistic philanthropists. One might extend that thought process a bit and reflect upon if they make more or less money from a healthy population or from one which has been nurtured into the belief that constant intervention is what is needed. | |||
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"The point of any business is to make profits It’s all about scale as well there volume of sales would of been huge modest margin on massive sales equals big profit Without previous profits to make it a solid business they wouldn’t of been in a position to research and develop vaccines Capping profits would be counter productive you’d just stop once you reach the cap why work for nothing "The point of any business is to make profits"... Yep very true. And the obligation of the board is to secure return on share holders funds. Important to bear that in mind when discussing companies who some seem to present as altruistic philanthropists. One might extend that thought process a bit and reflect upon if they make more or less money from a healthy population or from one which has been nurtured into the belief that constant intervention is what is needed. " Absolutely. I'll stop taking the high doseage painkillers that allow me to walk because..........constant intervention..........badddd. Winston | |||
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"The point of any business is to make profits It’s all about scale as well there volume of sales would of been huge modest margin on massive sales equals big profit Without previous profits to make it a solid business they wouldn’t of been in a position to research and develop vaccines Capping profits would be counter productive you’d just stop once you reach the cap why work for nothing "The point of any business is to make profits"... Yep very true. And the obligation of the board is to secure return on share holders funds. Important to bear that in mind when discussing companies who some seem to present as altruistic philanthropists. One might extend that thought process a bit and reflect upon if they make more or less money from a healthy population or from one which has been nurtured into the belief that constant intervention is what is needed. " The philosophical dilemma, cure or treat. It is this type of question which is crucial to explore for the long term benefits of every single illness that needs treatment, that is manipulated to fuel the doubting mind whilst providing the asset of fear to the puppet masters of conspiracy. | |||
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"The point of any business is to make profits It’s all about scale as well there volume of sales would of been huge modest margin on massive sales equals big profit Without previous profits to make it a solid business they wouldn’t of been in a position to research and develop vaccines Capping profits would be counter productive you’d just stop once you reach the cap why work for nothing "The point of any business is to make profits"... Yep very true. And the obligation of the board is to secure return on share holders funds. Important to bear that in mind when discussing companies who some seem to present as altruistic philanthropists. One might extend that thought process a bit and reflect upon if they make more or less money from a healthy population or from one which has been nurtured into the belief that constant intervention is what is needed. Absolutely. I'll stop taking the high doseage painkillers that allow me to walk because..........constant intervention..........badddd. Winston" As is your style, you go straight to extremes and hyperbole. However as you mention pain relief, that's a really good example where the pharma industry famously misrepresented the addictive properties of certain pain relief meds, used illegal practises similar to drug dealers to hook people on their pain relief meds and then continued to feed the addictions. Now, do they do good things? almost certainly. Is there a conflict of interest of return on investment and behaviours and the fact they make more money from people taking more meds... I think that's a good and healthy discussion to have. Its a shame you don't want to discuss that. | |||
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