"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you? "
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The Virus forum will go and a WW3 one will replace it soon but with the same comments.
I'M NOT GOING IN THE BOMB SHELTER, IT'S JUST ANOTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT CONTROL! I SAW ON YOUTUBE THEY DONT EVEN WORK! #nucLIEr warfare
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It's taken all the limelight of off borris and the lockdown parties aswell and now energy prices are going up and fuel will be £2 a litre in the next few weeks we won't question it will we because it's to do with the Russian conflict! #smoke and mirrors |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity. |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity."
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another "
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors. |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another "
You’re suggesting that governments around Europe (or is it the world?) are complicit with the invasion of Ukraine because it takes focus away from covid? That’s the theory?
But covid was receding into the background anyway, restrictions being lifted in lots of countries, so it makes no sense for any kind of “distraction”, as there isn’t really anything to distract from any more.
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity."
But Britain isn’t involved in a war!
And what legislation are you referring to that is being “slipped through”.
I don’t understand the conspiracy that you are suggesting
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors. "
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another "
How does Russia invading Ukraine “keep us in line”?
And who are you suggesting has created this situation in order to “keep us in line”?
The Uk is not under direct threat from what is happening in Ukraine, Ukraine is.
Trying to dismiss what is happening in Ukraine as some sort of scare tactic to keep us in line makes no sense to me. |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors.
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated "
Fabricated? So the stories of people being killed aren’t true?
Russia wants to take Ukraine as cleanly as possible, not obliterate it, so are hoping that huge shows of force will convince Ukraine to give in quickly. Killing thousands of people makes it more and more of a PR disaster for Russia, and they will want to avoid that if they can.
Referring to the invasion as a fabrication beggars belief |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity."
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors.
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated
Fabricated? So the stories of people being killed aren’t true?
Russia wants to take Ukraine as cleanly as possible, not obliterate it, so are hoping that huge shows of force will convince Ukraine to give in quickly. Killing thousands of people makes it more and more of a PR disaster for Russia, and they will want to avoid that if they can.
Referring to the invasion as a fabrication beggars belief "
It will effect us directly as we will now suffer huge rises in energy bills and supply chain issues the stock market will suffer worldwide
Every country will in someway suffer financially
And in a few weeks there will be a sease fire and all will get back to normal and we will all take on the financial struggle welst the government sit pretty as always |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input"
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity. |
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"Stupidity has reached new levels. RIP humanity
And who is that aimed at and why?"
Have you read Mark Knopflers crass, insensitive and Ill informed comments? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"Stupidity has reached new levels. RIP humanity
And who is that aimed at and why?
Have you read Mark Knopflers crass, insensitive and Ill informed comments? "
Aha took me a moment as only just old enough to know who you mean to get the reference. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors.
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated "
"Simply putting on a show, the odd casualty and the whole thing is fabricated!"
I'm sure there are many Ukrainians who would like to swap the safety you are afforded right now with their fabricated show....  |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity."
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless? |
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"It's mirroring what Tony blare did in Iraq its no different fabricated a cause and then created a war to in wich ultimately the government benefits from"
Our government has fabricated the invasion of Ukraine?
This is a lot different to Iraq, as British forces are not involved.
But yes, Blair (not blare) lied, invented a reason to invade Iraq, and what he and bush did was very clearly a war crime (invading a country for the purposes of regime change) |
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The only thing that amazes us that all the so called "Freedom" lovers ( Anti vax lot) aren't now busy heading towards the Ukraine along with the so called "Freedom Convoys" as they'd be taking a stand against a "Dicktator" and helping people who are having their human rights trampled on !! as surely Freedom fighters are Freedom fighters ?? but can't beat a good war the let those in power in any country get away with or cover lots of stuff...worked for Thatcher a treat ( and she caused the war ??) and Blair got away with mass murder ??  |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless? "
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power. |
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Tony blair was awarded the highest noble peace prize and ironically after his stint he was made peace keeper of the middle east I mean seriously if that is not is not corruption at its best then what is but but yet nobody had learnt from it no one is waking up its all moves and counter move our government is already benefiting from this as we selling arms to the Ukrainians! Yet us the people are raising funds given aid but the government happy to take there money! |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power."
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another "
Russia invading the Ukraine is scaremongering? I'd say people were right to be scared. Particularly those who live in the Ukraine.
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors.
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated "
I genuinely worry for people who believe this sort of rubbish. |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Exactly its conditioning us keeping us in line! Scare mongering! One threat to another
Tell that to the Ukrainians who are dying, don’t think they believe it’s smoke ‘n mirrors.
No doubt people are dying but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world and putin is a billionaire he could destroy ukraine in the blink of an eye but all he doing is targeting empty cities and then the media do there bit all iv seen is military vehicles on the move and rockets being fired the no ground troops its not like any footage from the wars in the middle east there simply just putting on a show and yes there's the odd casualties but the whole thing is fabricated I genuinely worry for people who believe this sort of rubbish. "
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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Slight tangental point...
“but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world”
Really? What makes you say that? I suspect the USA might have something to say about that.
The Russians certainly have a massive military that is very advanced, but “most advanced” hmmm I don’t think so. |
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"Slight tangental point...
“but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world”
Really? What makes you say that? I suspect the USA might have something to say about that.
The Russians certainly have a massive military that is very advanced, but “most advanced” hmmm I don’t think so."
Putin can fire rockets from a damn satellite ffs and the USA were more advanced under trump but sleepy joe sold it all to the taliban inface he didn't even sell it he literally left billions of dollars of black hawk helicopters and tanks behind and now Israel have them as the taliban could not pilot them so they sold them |
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"Slight tangental point...
“but the fact is Russia have the most advanced military in the world”
Really? What makes you say that? I suspect the USA might have something to say about that.
The Russians certainly have a massive military that is very advanced, but “most advanced” hmmm I don’t think so.
Putin can fire rockets from a damn satellite ffs and the USA were more advanced under trump but sleepy joe sold it all to the taliban inface he didn't even sell it he literally left billions of dollars of black hawk helicopters and tanks behind and now Israel have them as the taliban could not pilot them so they sold them"
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power."
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict. |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Exactly they throw that word around without even thinking for one min but the sheep will be sheep"
Sheep?
Devon ... fair enough |
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it."
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict. "
There you go again saying things I didn’t say. You know sometimes what is written is all there is!
I am not Tory bashing or ignoring Blair’s legacy. I am stating that our current govt are corrupt opportunists who have used crisis situations to further enrich themselves.
Power is only a means to an end = money. Power provides further opportunity for self enrichment. If they can find ways to hedge their bets to stay in power longer then that is great for them as again it provides more opportunities to get richer. |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?"
Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it. |
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it."
That's because they are ffs |
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it.
That's because they are ffs"
Do you honestly believe this? |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict.
There you go again saying things I didn’t say. You know sometimes what is written is all there is!
I am not Tory bashing or ignoring Blair’s legacy. I am stating that our current govt are corrupt opportunists who have used crisis situations to further enrich themselves.
Power is only a means to an end = money. Power provides further opportunity for self enrichment. If they can find ways to hedge their bets to stay in power longer then that is great for them as again it provides more opportunities to get richer. "
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input"
Total Bollux |
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it.
That's because they are ffs"
Seriously?
If international relations have taught us anything, it is that world leaders can’t agree on anything, and the chances of them orchestrating anything and keeping it secret is zero.
Conspiracy theories are based on levels of competence, organisms secrecy that simply do not exist in the real world . Total fantasy |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it.
That's because they are ffs"
This . |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict.
There you go again saying things I didn’t say. You know sometimes what is written is all there is!
I am not Tory bashing or ignoring Blair’s legacy. I am stating that our current govt are corrupt opportunists who have used crisis situations to further enrich themselves.
Power is only a means to an end = money. Power provides further opportunity for self enrichment. If they can find ways to hedge their bets to stay in power longer then that is great for them as again it provides more opportunities to get richer.
Once again focussing on “current government”. "
Well seeing as the “current government” are the ones who have been the Executive throughout the Covid pandemic and now during the war in Ukraine - what point are you trying to make? |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it.
That's because they are ffs
This ."
How does this orchestration work?
Is it a collaborative effort amongst the worlds leaders and business men? Is it one country conspiring against another?
Let me know |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Total Bollux "
Which bits of my post are “Bollux” [sic] and why? |
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"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict.
There you go again saying things I didn’t say. You know sometimes what is written is all there is!
I am not Tory bashing or ignoring Blair’s legacy. I am stating that our current govt are corrupt opportunists who have used crisis situations to further enrich themselves.
Power is only a means to an end = money. Power provides further opportunity for self enrichment. If they can find ways to hedge their bets to stay in power longer then that is great for them as again it provides more opportunities to get richer.
Once again focussing on “current government”.
Well seeing as the “current government” are the ones who have been the Executive throughout the Covid pandemic and now during the war in Ukraine - what point are you trying to make?"
Simple. That the previous lot were the exact same and dragged the country into an illegal war. |
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over a year ago
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"Yes, it is strange how when one event like covid is almost over, another event starts, it makes you wonder doesnt it.
I was reading last night how America is using the same guidance as us re a nuclear attack-i.e "nothing to worry about " but they have gone a step further and issued guidance in the event of an attack (there was some very good info, ie if you are caught outside or in your car etc) one point I did find a bit strange was that you were advised to take a couple of covid masks with you for your kids in a shelter, and to observe social distancing at all times due to covid!
Either they are pandering to bed-wetters or do they know something we dont?Yes and schwabs name keeps comming up, putin where one of his students as well, it is like world events are orchestrated isnt it.
That's because they are ffs"
What is the latest ‘theory’ , Russia created COVID? |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
Brighton |
"I’d say Johnson et al can’t quite believe their luck! Nothing like a good old war to whip up a patriotic fury and distract the masses from domestic issues.
They can now quietly slip through legislation and blame the fall out of Covid corruption/fraud and Brexit economic disaster and inflation/cost of living crisis on Russia!
The Roman’s knew it “bread and circuses”. Thatcher knew it with the Falklands (that one got her out of a pickle and two more election wins).
If it wasn’t Russia BJ would be sending British troops.
The Tories only achilles heal is dirty Russian money swimming around the Conservative Party and possible renewed focus on Putin’s funding of anti-EU and Brexit activity.
Exactly its so refreshing to see other people are waking up thanks for your input
Not quite sure what I am supposed to have woken up to?
Just to be clear, I do not think Covid itself has been a fraud etc but I do think the pandemic has been an authoritarian / disaster capitalist / corrupt opportunist’s wet dream.
They simply couldn’t believe their luck at the amazing opportunity afforded to them to push through their agenda and enrich themselves and family/friends. Now the war in Ukraine provides yet another opportunity.
What “agenda” do you think is being pushed through courtesy of the Ukraine invasion?
The suggestion they western leaders are haiku about this in some way is ludicrous, as the saga has made them look weak and ineffectual. Why would any government be happy about a development that makes them look so toothless?
Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word “opportunist”.
Instantly try to move towards “global conspiracy” which is plainly ludicrous but bypassing everything else that comes first!
All govts have an agenda. Some are good for the many and some are good for the few. In the UK we have a govt led by corrupt opportunists whose primary aim is self enrichment and the slow erosion of accountability, public scrutiny or protest.
When an OPPORTUNITY presents itself to distract the masses (a pandemic, a war, an energy crisis etc) it makes it easier to achieve your aims.
That isn’t a “conspiracy” it is the nature of those currently in power.
Looking ineffectual and toothless doesn’t exactly enhance their chances of staying in power though.
And it is delusional to try to pin the behaviour that you describe on the current lot given what Blair who lied and led the country into an illegal invasion.
I realise that Tory-bashing is the popular thing to do, but Labour have a far worse record when it comes to international conflict.
There you go again saying things I didn’t say. You know sometimes what is written is all there is!
I am not Tory bashing or ignoring Blair’s legacy. I am stating that our current govt are corrupt opportunists who have used crisis situations to further enrich themselves.
Power is only a means to an end = money. Power provides further opportunity for self enrichment. If they can find ways to hedge their bets to stay in power longer then that is great for them as again it provides more opportunities to get richer.
Once again focussing on “current government”.
Well seeing as the “current government” are the ones who have been the Executive throughout the Covid pandemic and now during the war in Ukraine - what point are you trying to make?
Simple. That the previous lot were the exact same and dragged the country into an illegal war. "
The tribalism is strong in this one!
You do know that it is possible to both support and criticise your own “team” right?
So are you saying because Blair was a warmongering lapdog for Bush (and irreparably damaged what was until then a good legacy) that we cannot, almost 20 years later, criticise our current government because they wear a different colour tie? |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you? "
Because thats what keeps the numbers up. More likey to be channels that use advertising for revenue than the BBC
A scared audeience is a more engaged audience, which increases veiwing numbers |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Because thats what keeps the numbers up. More likey to be channels that use advertising for revenue than the BBC
A scared audeience is a more engaged audience, which increases veiwing numbers "
Yes and now you dont hear almost anything about covid as all the news is about russia. I find that strange too. |
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"It’s like after two years of constant threat of ‘everyone’s going to die’ it’s immediately replaced with ‘ everyone’s going to die’ …. You couldn’t write it … could you?
Because thats what keeps the numbers up. More likey to be channels that use advertising for revenue than the BBC
A scared audeience is a more engaged audience, which increases veiwing numbers Yes and now you dont hear almost anything about covid as all the news is about russia. I find that strange too."
Russia is bigger news right now. You agree, surely?
Covid is well understood, hasn’t changed much since yesterday, things are getting better, restrictions are being relaxed.
Just not as big a news story as Russia |
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