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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
"Gofundme backtracked (quite rightly) within hours of saying that people needed to request a refund and said they would refund everyone. I did hear somewhere that they would charge an admin fee but haven’t seen anything myself about that. | |||
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"Well the truckers have the support of Donald Trump, Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk, I've just read so I'll have to dig into this to discover the various motivations behind it all." Well trump welcomes any disruption on Bidens watch so no surprise there  | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
"has there been violence in the Canadian truckers camps? because that's the reason for police asking go fund me to cancel the truckers account, according to the news. I find that hard to believe. | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
has there been violence in the Canadian truckers camps?
because that's the reason for police asking go fund me to cancel the truckers account, according to the news.
I find that hard to believe."A snippet from Fortune.. Canadian police have voiced their concerns over the growing extremist and far-right elements among the protesters; as of Sunday, Ottawa police have arrested 60 people tied to the demonstrations over “mischief, thefts, hate crimes, and property damage.” Some protesters have been seen displaying swastikas and Confederate flags. ...as with many demonstrations they get infiltrated and this is where the issues begin. | |||
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"They have been warned to stay present as the authorities are now trying to provoke them so they can deal with them but it’s too together, the residents are washing there clothes and helping to feed them " As I have been following YouTube about them I was surprised to see this thread, but as with other protest something messes it up. especially when its against the status quo. This is a good example of why the this police bill should be thrown in the bin, if the act goes through we will never be allowed to protest in the same way again . | |||
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"I don’t think it is correct to tag that onto what is happening in Canada it is grounded peacefull and unified, they have nothing but love for each other, they are staying within the law it’s an incredible feat in these times " | |||
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"It is going to grow, the USA truckers started a Facebook page for a call to occupy Washington DC within a few days it amassed 150,000 members and Facebook removed it. They plan to go on the 1st of March and by now they will have grown immensely, I think the Americans sympathies with them " Good all power to them. | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed. "Yup the weirdos love a good protest
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
"Actually it is a fringe group of Canadian truckers where 90% of truckers are actually vaccinated… and the main Canadian truckers groups and unions have disavowed them… The irony is that they are protesting in Canada an American law that says people who cross the border have to be vaccinated as if it’s the Canadian government’s fault!!! But hey… jumped on by the anti vaxxers and the Fox News right wing!!!!! | |||
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"I don’t think it is correct to tag that onto what is happening in Canada it is grounded peacefull and unified, they have nothing but love for each other, they are staying within the law it’s an incredible feat in these times
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom" "Does the fact they're a minority mean their trambled freedoms don't matter then?
Vaccination status is absolutely no reason to take people's rights or freedoms away or do so in a way to coerce them into making a decision they don't agree with..... | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom" "The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right. This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system They stuck together just like we all should! | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!"In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!! | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
"Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple. | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple. "Stopping trade hurts everyone. | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple.
Stopping trade hurts everyone."Indeed it does. That is why it is a tactic employed by the very same Western governments on other nations e.g. on North Korea, Iran and Russia etc. | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple.
Stopping trade hurts everyone."yep and if it gets the population upset then trudeau will either have to talk to them or use force to move them and from what ive seen there being pretty peacefull not attacking old bill or burning shit down so using force prob wont be a good look,the gov would prob prefer them to be a violent rabble then they could steam into them | |||
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"I'll have to dig into this to discover the various motivations behind it all." If anyone doesn't know why the truckers are taking to the roads in Canada then seriously just go back to whatever you were doing you are best off not knowing now at this point in time! | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed. "Why would people think these are 'questionable groups' of people they are all everyday 'normal' people not in groups or gangs or clubs just normal people sticking together looking after each other for the the sake of saving humanity they are all genuine people doing what they can best to their power to look after their country and try and save it from tyranny! | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed.
Why would people think these are 'questionable groups' of people they are all everyday 'normal' people not in groups or gangs or clubs just normal people sticking together looking after each other for the the sake of saving humanity they are all genuine people doing what they can best to their power to look after their country and try and save it from tyranny!"Exactly this, it has so many wider implications for the whole world. With such worrying times for the future of our next generation, they are fighting for true democracy where the people have a voice and the politicians are answerable, it’s as simple as this. The results in Canada and the Truckers in America’s attempts to follow on the 1st of March will have very wide implications for all of us. | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed.
Why would people think these are 'questionable groups' of people they are all everyday 'normal' people not in groups or gangs or clubs just normal people sticking together looking after each other for the the sake of saving humanity they are all genuine people doing what they can best to their power to look after their country and try and save it from tyranny!" 100% agree | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple.
Stopping trade hurts everyone.yep and if it gets the population upset then trudeau will either have to talk to them or use force to move them and from what ive seen there being pretty peacefull not attacking old bill or burning shit down so using force prob wont be a good look,the gov would prob prefer them to be a violent rabble then they could steam into them"But with 90% of the people vaccinated will people be more pissed at Trudeau, or at some renegade truckers who don’t talk for most in the trucking industry…. Yes the truckers may have a certain amount of good will, but that will turn quickly if it affects everyone!!! It’s a bit like the way extinction rebellion go about their protests! Do you really gain any sympathy by clogging up main roads day after day!! | |||
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" The irony of Far Right Neo Nazi's and in some cases Far Left all joining together in the name of "Freedom" when history should teach them that neither Far Righ/Left Governments EVER put much value on "Freedom" ...hopefully isn't wastted on anyone and seeing Canada has above a 90% vaccination rate they are in a small minority and the protesters cause for "Freedom" means they are merrily trampling over everyoone's else's "Freedom"
The majority of the protesters are vaccinated and pro vaccination, it is anti mandate that has brought them together, the Canadians take their freedom as a given right.
This is not a for or against being vaccinated debate it was more they were set to be divided into a two tier system
They stuck together just like we all should!
In which case why are they mainly protesting all the major border crossings when it the AMERICAN mandate that they have to be vaccinated to come in!!!
Because money talks blocking a city street is ok but stopping trade hurts the money men simple.
Stopping trade hurts everyone.yep and if it gets the population upset then trudeau will either have to talk to them or use force to move them and from what ive seen there being pretty peacefull not attacking old bill or burning shit down so using force prob wont be a good look,the gov would prob prefer them to be a violent rabble then they could steam into them
But with 90% of the people vaccinated will people be more pissed at Trudeau, or at some renegade truckers who don’t talk for most in the trucking industry….
Yes the truckers may have a certain amount of good will, but that will turn quickly if it affects everyone!!!
It’s a bit like the way extinction rebellion go about their protests! Do you really gain any sympathy by clogging up main roads day after day!! "how do u know they dont talk for most in the trucking industry? Also i bet there are plenty who aint truckers who dont support the mandates either im sure they will support them, | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed.
Why would people think these are 'questionable groups' of people they are all everyday 'normal' people not in groups or gangs or clubs just normal people sticking together looking after each other for the the sake of saving humanity they are all genuine people doing what they can best to their power to look after their country and try and save it from tyranny!"Because while they may believe that’s what they are doing, they are, in reality, delusional conspiracy theorists who pose an active danger to society. | |||
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"Backed by and comprised of some highly questionable groups, including those filing court papers still alleging 5G, micrichips and Bill Gates bullshit, I can't say that I'm impressed.
Why would people think these are 'questionable groups' of people they are all everyday 'normal' people not in groups or gangs or clubs just normal people sticking together looking after each other for the the sake of saving humanity they are all genuine people doing what they can best to their power to look after their country and try and save it from tyranny!
Because while they may believe that’s what they are doing, they are, in reality, delusional conspiracy theorists who pose an active danger to society."And Trudeau doesn't? | |||
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"Good luck to the truckers" Yes, good luck to them | |||
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"Good luck to the truckersYes, good luck to them " | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. " And you have evidence of this yeah? Or is this just the usual attempt to smear a growing movement that you just happen to disagree with? Typical CNN/MSNBC etc talking points trying to throw around bullshit like Trump! Racism! White supremacists! Sexist! N@zi! Even though there is zero truth behind the slurs the leftist perpetually offended pearl clutches continue to try and derail groups that are contrary to their narrative. Thankfully those tactics aren't working anymore. Calling someone racist, white supremacist, sexist....Yadda Yadda has really lost it's impact factor. Hillary Clinton found that out in 2016 but still the idiots double down. Let's hope they continue to do so...  | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. " i dont agree with something so its anti vaxxers,racists,conspiracy theorists trump or boris or anyone else the bbc or cnn or chanel four tell me it is lol | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. i dont agree with something so its anti vaxxers,racists,conspiracy theorists trump or boris or anyone else the bbc or cnn or chanel four tell me it is lol"
Seems to be the go-to stance on here whenever someone dares swimming against the tide.
I'm sure the truckers and their supporters (who incidentally have varying skin colours....which doesn't Matter unless you're a woke leftist authoritarian) aren't anti-vax but like myself PRO CHOICE. | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. i dont agree with something so its anti vaxxers,racists,conspiracy theorists trump or boris or anyone else the bbc or cnn or chanel four tell me it is lol
Seems to be the go-to stance on here whenever someone dares swimming against the tide.
I'm sure the truckers and their supporters (who incidentally have varying skin colours....which doesn't Matter unless you're a woke leftist authoritarian) aren't anti-vax but like myself PRO CHOICE. "you know what there gona write even before they have written it,myself i say good luck to the truckers hopefully if the police try to move them then other canadians will come out onto the streets peacefully and make it as difficult as possible to move them , | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers " Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none. | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none." hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left? | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none.hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left?" Political allegiance is not defined by class. If you look at the history of this country as an example you could say there is historically a leaning towards the left, but it is by no means definitive. If you look at the US it’s always been a much stronger lean towards the right. | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none.hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left? Political allegiance is not defined by class. If you look at the history of this country as an example you could say there is historically a leaning towards the left, but it is by no means definitive. If you look at the US it’s always been a much stronger lean towards the right." but we are talking about canada not the u.s and if what you say about the u.s is true does that meen the left in the states is the party for the middle classes? | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none.hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left? Political allegiance is not defined by class. If you look at the history of this country as an example you could say there is historically a leaning towards the left, but it is by no means definitive. If you look at the US it’s always been a much stronger lean towards the right. but we are talking about canada not the u.s and if what you say about the u.s is true does that meen the left in the states is the party for the middle classes?" You don’t seem to have understood what was written, we can leave it there. | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs." Yes. I love it too and the togetherness of it all, they are stronger in numbers | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs.Yes. I like it too and the togetherness of it all, they are stronger in numbers "Is this true? The vast majority of people across the world by far are standing together by wearing masks and to being vaccinated to protect society and each other, but you disagree with those things. Or do you mean you only agree with it when you agree with what they are standing together for? Which in this case is right-wing conspiracy theories and disruptive anti-science, anti-social behaviour. | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs.Yes. I love it too and the togetherness of it all, they are stronger in numbers "Agree. | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none.hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left?" Fox news has had coverage of the QANON contingent within the convoy and several leaders have QANON backgrounds. There are others who have a background in fighting the conspiracy against 5G, tracking and Bill Gates. Those are diverse foundations, tending towards the bizarre, extreme and dangerous and not limited to any archaic left/right perspective. Certainly, following the Capital Hill attacks, with some of these being engaged, it's not potentially the mix to foment peace for all and intelligent engagement, is it! Certainly, workers rights, employment opportunities, economic well-being and protection of democracy and public safety, are central tenets of a progressive, modern outlook, in the interests of the many, not the elites. | |||
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"No it’s the most peaceful protest imaginable, the residents there say they can’t believe how safe they now feel on the streets and how the streets have never been so clean. The leaders are wanting to sit down to talks but are being refused, with so much backing of the public how is that democracy? People are talking of how much unity there is between people, even police have joined the protesters and that tells you a lot. It started over vaccine mandates and now the people want freedom. Let’s hope it spreads right through America as the truckers there are wanting to protest. Right now in the UK a convoy has started but what your getting to see on YouTube is paltry it’s obvious that the media is controlling what we see here, it is what the Canadian truckers are worried about as there email addresses and phone services are being taken off line in an attempt to control them" "People" in Ottawa are talking about "unity"? Really? What "people"? How many were asked? Who reported it? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60297364 Who are "the leaders"? Who democratically elected them and who do they represent? Talks about what? There is a Covid travel rule in place like in much of the world. Vaccines are not mandatory. Why should a small, vocal group influence this decision more than any other? Let's see: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-a-look-at-the-main-organizers-behind-ottawas-protests/ The majority of truck drivers are vaccinated in line with the population and their union does not support this action. "The people" have not demanded "freedom". Some people believe that their "freedom" is more important than the freedoms of society as a whole. It's always a balance, but we are returning to some semblance of normality now because the majority have been vaccinated and respected the rules long enough to get to survive to a less deadly variant. Where is the UK truck convoy? What evidence is there of it even existing? | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?" Have you considered a big percentage of them were threatened with losing there jobs for not complying. | |||
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"On the M25 at 3am this morning. Stuck there for hours sandwiched between these behemoths. Now that's the kind of mfm I DON'T like" You think that it is being deliberately not reported? Of course, I don't know where you were, bit I have been caught in 3 hour queues for all sorts of reasons, with lorries around me. Regardless, I hope that the people involved in theses incidents are well, vaccine protestors or not. https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/live-updates-m25-crash-motorcycle-6646769 https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/live-m25-a23-updates-two-23063970 https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/m25-traffic-live-updates-massive-23033179 | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest? Have you considered a big percentage of them were threatened with losing there jobs for not complying." You mean a tiny percentage | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest? Have you considered a big percentage of them were threatened with losing there jobs for not complying." A "big percentage"? Really? Based on what information? | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest? Have you considered a big percentage of them were threatened with losing there jobs for not complying. I love the smell of denial on a morning. 52m individuals vaccinated. 1.3m work in care sector 1.6m NHS Thats what? .... 2.5% ish Not really a big percentage is it" The thread is about truckers though
Still, I think that the stats are similar and I don't think that are "threatened" with anything.
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
"A company can choose to do as it wishes. There may be a commercial calculation that this would lose overall business, or they may not know where the funds end up. Is it "gaining popularity" or is it the expression of a minority. Perfectly valid, but no more than that | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest? Have you considered a big percentage of them were threatened with losing there jobs for not complying." I love the smell of denial on a morning. 52m individuals vaccinated. 1.3m work in care sector 1.6m NHS Thats what? .... 2.5% ish Not really a big percentage is it | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
"To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really. Cal | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
Cal"Even the 50,000 figure has no source. There are a total of 700,000 heavy trucks in Canada. 250,000 or even 50,000 would have shut the country down by now. "Hundreds" perhaps? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-protest-truck-tow-remove-1.6339652 | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
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How far would 250,000 trucks stretch? "With the trailer or just the tractor? Is it an African swallow or a European swallow?
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
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How far would 250,000 trucks stretch?
With the trailer or just the tractor?
Is it an African swallow or a European swallow?
They are made up numbers. Not really any doubt of that, but I don't understand why people do it and even less why they believe it..."Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.  | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?" im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
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How far would 250,000 trucks stretch?
With the trailer or just the tractor?
Is it an African swallow or a European swallow?
They are made up numbers. Not really any doubt of that, but I don't understand why people do it and even less why they believe it...
Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind. "Like other things, you need length and thickness to get a satisfactory answer for that | |||
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"I’m a fellow trucker and I back them completely , it’s a shame idiots have jumped on the band wagon and giving the truckers a bad name , it doesn’t take long for trucks to be parked up when people realise there’s no food in the shelves , no fuel for their cars , no raw materials for their workplace no outbound goods , remember everything you use on a daily basis as sometime or other been delivered by truck , respect the drivers Most people do respect lorry drivers. If they become part of a right-wing conspiracy driven anti-social disruption movement however, as these have, they deserve no respect and they get none.hahahahahahahaha i dont agree with something therefore its rightwing lol id class those truckers as working class and hasnt the working class usually been to the left? Fox news has had coverage of the QANON contingent within the convoy and several leaders have QANON backgrounds. There are others who have a background in fighting the conspiracy against 5G, tracking and Bill Gates. Those are diverse foundations, tending towards the bizarre, extreme and dangerous and not limited to any archaic left/right perspective. Certainly, following the Capital Hill attacks, with some of these being engaged, it's not potentially the mix to foment peace for all and intelligent engagement, is it! Certainly, workers rights, employment opportunities, economic well-being and protection of democracy and public safety, are central tenets of a progressive, modern outlook, in the interests of the many, not the elites. " ah so its a contingent not the main body of the protest i should imagine you will get conspiricy theorists and nutter at protests you do agree with aswell would that make a protest you agree with full of qanon nutters aswell | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less" Your belief is that it's better for you. Standing together with those others who got vaccinated for the same reasons
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less Your belief is that it's better for you. Standing together with those others who got vaccinated for the same reasons
Regardless of your reasons you've probably helped us all out. Thank you anyway, even if that is annoying."no you said 90% done itto get us back to normal i didnt i done it to travel if they had let u travel without it i would of taken my chances without the jab,u may have done it to give yourself a warm fuzzy feeling inside but not everyone did | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less Your belief is that it's better for you. Standing together with those others who got vaccinated for the same reasons
Regardless of your reasons you've probably helped us all out. Thank you anyway, even if that is annoying.no you said 90% done itto get us back to normal i didnt i done it to travel if they had let u travel without it i would of taken my chances without the jab,u may have done it to give yourself a warm fuzzy feeling inside but not everyone did"If you like. I did it to reduce my chances to get sick and get others sick. Not sure why you choose to belittle my choices, but if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, crack on. | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy " it's currently turning kent into a roadside toilet due to a failed brexit. | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less Your belief is that it's better for you. Standing together with those others who got vaccinated for the same reasons
Regardless of your reasons you've probably helped us all out. Thank you anyway, even if that is annoying.no you said 90% done itto get us back to normal i didnt i done it to travel if they had let u travel without it i would of taken my chances without the jab,u may have done it to give yourself a warm fuzzy feeling inside but not everyone did
If you like.
I did it to reduce my chances to get sick and get others sick. Not sure why you choose to belittle my choices, but if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, crack on."nah not warm and fuzzy thats for those like yourself who done it for the greater good or other such nonsense. Like to ask me another question? Thats your usual m.o when you dont get an answer u dont like easy,nice to see you back in the forums though you seemed to dissapear when everyone was furloughed or working from home...why was that???? | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
To be honest, if there really are the 250,000 trucks there like people claim. Nine million dollars is only $36 per truck... that's not going to keep them in fuel for long. Even if the 50 thousand trucks is more accurate, that's still only $180, small change really.
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How far would 250,000 trucks stretch? "Assuming the average truck & trailer is about 20m long, and that they were parked end to end with no space between them.... all the way from Ottowa to Florida and back Cal | |||
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"I love it when people stand together for their beliefs. Like the 90%+ who are vaccinated and followed the guidelines that have got us to a point where normality is returning? Do you celebrate them in their quiet daily activities or do they have to protest?im one of the 90% who got vaxxed but dont put me in with those who done it for the greater good and all that guff i done it for purley selfish reasons like most people i know so i can teavel nothing more nothing less Your belief is that it's better for you. Standing together with those others who got vaccinated for the same reasons
Regardless of your reasons you've probably helped us all out. Thank you anyway, even if that is annoying.no you said 90% done itto get us back to normal i didnt i done it to travel if they had let u travel without it i would of taken my chances without the jab,u may have done it to give yourself a warm fuzzy feeling inside but not everyone did
If you like.
I did it to reduce my chances to get sick and get others sick. Not sure why you choose to belittle my choices, but if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, crack on.nah not warm and fuzzy thats for those like yourself who done it for the greater good or other such nonsense. Like to ask me another question? Thats your usual m.o when you dont get an answer u dont like easy,nice to see you back in the forums though you seemed to dissapear when everyone was furloughed or working from home...why was that????"I don't know why you're always so hostile or why you have dedicated time to my "m.o." and tracking my posts. I have posted over the last two years. Depends on my mood and how busy I am. Have you a snide point to make? There often seems to be a personal insult aimed at me on the end. Why not just make it directly if you are just posting to do that? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible!" Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? | |||
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"Because while they may believe that’s what they are doing, they are, in reality, delusional conspiracy theorists who pose an active danger to society." You are the 'active danger to society' and those who share your opinion, you will be the downfall to society leading us into oblivion trusting your government and following the narrative please wake up and find out what has been really happening around you for the last two years I know it is hard to admit you have been had but we have all been had? | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. " Some people are so lost to the cult they may not ever see reality to come back down to earth | |||
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"QANON who have helped to drive this, must be satisfied, even if much of their BS is seen as jus that. And you have evidence of this yeah? Or is this just the usual attempt to smear a growing movement that you just happen to disagree with? Typical CNN/MSNBC etc talking points trying to throw around bullshit like Trump! Racism! White supremacists! Sexist! N@zi! Even though there is zero truth behind the slurs the leftist perpetually offended pearl clutches continue to try and derail groups that are contrary to their narrative. Thankfully those tactics aren't working anymore. Calling someone racist, white supremacist, sexist....Yadda Yadda has really lost it's impact factor. Hillary Clinton found that out in 2016 but still the idiots double down. Let's hope they continue to do so... "Totally 100% | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament "I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please? | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?"you are thinking of the 'taught in school since 1847' round ball globe earth theory where we live on a round ball globe like earth flying through space chasing after the sun spinning around the sun at over 66,000mph while at the same time spinning on an axis at over 1000mph. Ever wonder why they teach kids this in school? As they have done since 1847? | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?
you are thinking of the 'taught in school since 1847' round ball globe earth theory where we live on a round ball globe like earth flying through space chasing after the sun spinning around the sun at over 66,000mph while at the same time spinning on an axis at over 1000mph. Ever wonder why they teach kids this in school? As they have done since 1847? "Spinning but always in perfect balance... | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?"It comes from Genesis if I’m correct, the Bible not the band, regarding the place we abide. | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?
you are thinking of the 'taught in school since 1847' round ball globe earth theory where we live on a round ball globe like earth flying through space chasing after the sun spinning around the sun at over 66,000mph while at the same time spinning on an axis at over 1000mph. Ever wonder why they teach kids this in school? As they have done since 1847? "I shouldn’t but I will... are you saying this isn’t or is true? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected?" Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen" And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen" You are just writing statements without any evidence and just ignoring anything inconvenient. Very BoJo. "Most protestors are vaccinated". Really? I never even asked. Regardless, has that been surveyed? "Most Canadians support them". Really? According to whom? Canada has had extremely high support for Covid controls throughout the pandemic. Lots of countries and States are reducing restrictions as they come through Omicron. That has zero to do with protests. The Canadian provinces are allowing indoor dining without masks, not scrapping all restrictions. Your views on democracy seem very malleable with regard to elected representatives. Self-proclaimed unelected "representatives" are sometimes needed then? I do fear people with unknown backgrounds and political views trying to take power by subversion and intimidation. It does not bode well for society. What has war got to do with this? Are you a Russian bot? How about that one lorry UK "freedom convoy"? Where is it now? RT did report on it I noticed. | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?
you are thinking of the 'taught in school since 1847' round ball globe earth theory where we live on a round ball globe like earth flying through space chasing after the sun spinning around the sun at over 66,000mph while at the same time spinning on an axis at over 1000mph. Ever wonder why they teach kids this in school? As they have done since 1847?
I shouldn’t but I will... are you saying this isn’t or is true?"Perhaps "Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals"? Alternatively, saying the world is flat is just nonsense. Difficult to know, right? | |||
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"Just wondering if they would be visible from space....should really go and do something to occupy my mind.
Sorry there isn't any space theres only water above the firmament
I'll probably regret asking,but it's early, could you explain this please?
you are thinking of the 'taught in school since 1847' round ball globe earth theory where we live on a round ball globe like earth flying through space chasing after the sun spinning around the sun at over 66,000mph while at the same time spinning on an axis at over 1000mph. Ever wonder why they teach kids this in school? As they have done since 1847?
I shouldn’t but I will... are you saying this isn’t or is true?
Perhaps "Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals"?
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?" perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate" Licking the boots ? Really 
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Licking the boots ? Really
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"The NZ approach to protestors is kind of fun. Barry Manilow and the Macarena on a 20 minute loop along with the sprinklers to get them off the lawn. James Blunt has offered his services on Twitter. Good times. " The protesters are free to leave, my sympathies lie with the cops that have to stay and endure these tracks. Such torturous sounds could drive a man to the point of crazy in which they pull out their service weapon and open up!! | |||
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"Russia today Are they really alternative? It is nigh on the only footage you can find on UK situation , how come? Someone mentioned people just repeating main stream, sadly it seems for some this is the case, not sure why that phenomena maybe it is easier to believe!!" Still unable to reply? Only RT because one truck and some shout people is not newsworthy. Certainly not a freedom "convoy". What you write does sound very scripted though... | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate" Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?" Interesting, only the right to protest is written into their constitution. Why have you got something in for the movement, it’s a great thing that is happening, people coming together peacefully. Why are you putting it down so much? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"? Interesting, only the right to protest is written into their constitution. Why have you got something in for the movement, it’s a great thing that is happening, people coming together peacefully. Why are you putting it down so much?" What specific put-downs are there? | |||
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"The canadian trucker convoy is on going and it is gaining popularity all over the world and even stretching to new zeeland, it has been emerged this week that the donations for the truckers which have risen to $9mill on their gofund me page, not only have it been frozen, but cancelled as well, the donators have until feb 19 to request a refund, what do you think of it all? It seems to be gaining popularity
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?" so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Licking the boots ? Really
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"? Interesting, only the right to protest is written into their constitution. Why have you got something in for the movement, it’s a great thing that is happening, people coming together peacefully. Why are you putting it down so much?" Protest is not the same as a tiny minority, without widespread support, crippling cities and industries. Pleased that it is peaceful, on the whole. At some point the economic and social damage has to be ended. The elected government and police services have exercised restraint. The law should be applied now, don't you agree? There is no fundamental "freedom" being "defended". A temporary measure in a global medical crisis which has been modified depending on the situation and heading towards further reduction. You do, still, sound very scripted. Who is feeding you your lines? Still unwilling or unable to answer the simple questions posed considering you are offering unrestricted support to everything these people are doing. How much am I "putting it down"? In what way? | |||
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"the canadian police now appear to have cleared the few dozen lunatic fringe from their blockade.so people fighting for their rights are lunatics, hope you also believe that BLM protesters are arrested and jailed for years. " What "rights" are they "fighting" for? Who are they? Any idea? | |||
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"the canadian police now appear to have cleared the few dozen lunatic fringe from their blockade.so people fighting for their rights are lunatics, hope you also believe that BLM protesters are arrested and jailed for years. What "rights" are they "fighting" for? Who are they? Any idea?" Rights to have choose what medical procedures they want to undergo and what drugs to take. Rights not to be excluded from society over their medical choices. Rights not to lose their job and income over their medical choices. Rights to decide what medical choices their children should be subjected to. Might not seem important to you at all, and you might be happy to be tarred with the same brush and administered drugs that don't prevent you from spreading a disease every three months. If my own stepmother had the right to chose - she wouldn't be disabled right now. Those Rights. | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time" We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession. | |||
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous "Comparing BLM to a civil rights movement is frankly ridiculous. They were a flash mob who torched buildings and destroyed livelihoods. Then their 'unelected' leaders ran off with $60m. | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession." hahaha no easy i am replying to you because you answerd my post and unhealthy obsession you should be so lucky sweetchecks your really not my cup of tea,and whats me not voting got to do with anything? U mention revolution oooo im all for that,deal with the centreists firt though as they have no soul at least the far left and far right have ideals lol anyway im off out now though i will miss your words of wisdom xx | |||
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous "So some people can fight for their rights but others who you don't agree with can, i understand now only protest if everyone agrees with it. | |||
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"the canadian police now appear to have cleared the few dozen lunatic fringe from their blockade.so people fighting for their rights are lunatics, hope you also believe that BLM protesters are arrested and jailed for years. What "rights" are they "fighting" for? Who are they? Any idea? Rights to have choose what medical procedures they want to undergo and what drugs to take. Rights not to be excluded from society over their medical choices. Rights not to lose their job and income over their medical choices. Rights to decide what medical choices their children should be subjected to. Might not seem important to you at all, and you might be happy to be tarred with the same brush and administered drugs that don't prevent you from spreading a disease every three months. If my own stepmother had the right to chose - she wouldn't be disabled right now. Those Rights. " There is no requirement to be vaccinated. Society has every right to exclude people who have the potential to cause significant harm. There are many legal orders for mental health and terrorism. Medical harms are equally dangerous. You will be excluded from driving for choosing to drink more than a medically prescribed limit. I have been administered many drugs. Many consented for by parents not by me. I am grateful to them for that. None ever against my will. Again, this can happen, legally, in many circumstances. You don't seem to understand how the vaccines work. Best to read up. They still significantly reduce the chances of you becoming seriously ill or dying after three months or longer. They just aren't as good at preventing all symptoms from occurring. I do not know what circumstances under which your stepmother is ill. I assume you are implying that there was a direct connection to being vaccinated. Perhaps that is true, perhaps it is not. Terribly sad either way. Your personal experience, however negative, does not mean that it translates to the entire population though. You have not listed any rights that blocking cities and trade protects. | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession.hahaha no easy i am replying to you because you answerd my post and unhealthy obsession you should be so lucky sweetchecks your really not my cup of tea,and whats me not voting got to do with anything? U mention revolution oooo im all for that,deal with the centreists firt though as they have no soul at least the far left and far right have ideals lol anyway im off out now though i will miss your words of wisdom xx" Attempted patronisation too. You appear to be suffering from a stress response and no longer discussing the topic. You can, of course, post as you wish and should continue to regularly post about politics whilst claiming not to care about it and state that everything is terrible and nothing will change. 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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession." You've just contradicted yourself. A judicial process is corrupt if it enforces any law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. | |||
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous
Comparing BLM to a civil rights movement is frankly ridiculous.
They were a flash mob who torched buildings and destroyed livelihoods. Then their 'unelected' leaders ran off with $60m."A very good reason not to donate to any randomly created organisation, even if you support their views. Best to find out who the "leaders" are and what the money is intended for. Which returns us to the actual OP. This group should not be funded with random donations. Don't you agree? | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession. You've just contradicted yourself. A judicial process is corrupt if it enforces any law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. " However, that is not actually true. It is corrupt if it can be improperly influenced. It is immoral if the law enforces an indefensible position. We are rolling back the human rights act too though. Sl@very was "legal" too as were the race laws in Nazi Germany. Immoral, but legal. We will have to see how the appeals process works and how much of a stink the Lords and Parliament actually creates before this happens. That's how our Parliamentary and legal process works. Our government is corrupt and immoral though. | |||
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"the canadian police now appear to have cleared the few dozen lunatic fringe from their blockade.so people fighting for their rights are lunatics, hope you also believe that BLM protesters are arrested and jailed for years. What "rights" are they "fighting" for? Who are they? Any idea? Rights to have choose what medical procedures they want to undergo and what drugs to take. Rights not to be excluded from society over their medical choices. Rights not to lose their job and income over their medical choices. Rights to decide what medical choices their children should be subjected to. Might not seem important to you at all, and you might be happy to be tarred with the same brush and administered drugs that don't prevent you from spreading a disease every three months. If my own stepmother had the right to chose - she wouldn't be disabled right now. Those Rights. There is no requirement to be vaccinated. Society has every right to exclude people who have the potential to cause significant harm. There are many legal orders for mental health and terrorism. Medical harms are equally dangerous. You will be excluded from driving for choosing to drink more than a medically prescribed limit. I have been administered many drugs. Many consented for by parents not by me. I am grateful to them for that. None ever against my will. Again, this can happen, legally, in many circumstances. You don't seem to understand how the vaccines work. Best to read up. They still significantly reduce the chances of you becoming seriously ill or dying after three months or longer. They just aren't as good at preventing all symptoms from occurring. I do not know what circumstances under which your stepmother is ill. I assume you are implying that there was a direct connection to being vaccinated. Perhaps that is true, perhaps it is not. Terribly sad either way. Your personal experience, however negative, does not mean that it translates to the entire population though. You have not listed any rights that blocking cities and trade protects." You don't seem to understand how ALL medicine works and the fact that every single invented drug doesn't suit every single person, so creating mandates that state "get vaxed" or might as well go die because we will exclude you from society and take away your rights to honestly earn your living to provide for your family. If those mandates wouldn't be implemented - there would be nobody protesting and nobody's trade would be impacted. Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And yes, my stepmothers disability appeared within a week from having a second shot. A different family member who's 31, 100% healthy woman, who doesn't drink at all, doesn't smoke, doesn't have any unhealthy habits ended up in the hospital with enlarged heart on the same day after taking the second shot. She now has to live with a damaged valve. There's millions of people out there who had bad reactions to vaccines themselves and those people and their families are angry. Rightly fucking so! Vaccine or any other drug mandates brushed onto every single human being without any personal risk assessments are inhumane. All of that said - I was never against the vaccine, so save your manslaining please. I'm against mandates. | |||
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"I recently saw a post on Facebook claiming that 50% of the police in Ottowa had resigned, and the remaining officers were refusing to police the protest. I have to say that there still seems to be lots of police there considering
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous
Comparing BLM to a civil rights movement is frankly ridiculous.
They were a flash mob who torched buildings and destroyed livelihoods. Then their 'unelected' leaders ran off with $60m.
A very good reason not to donate to any randomly created organisation, even if you support their views. Best to find out who the "leaders" are and what the money is intended for.
Which returns us to the actual OP. This group should not be funded with random donations. Don't you agree?"It is a very good idea to check where the money is going but people are free to donate their money to whatever cause they want to. So far they haven't burnt and looted any buildings. Do you see this escalating to that level? IIRC when BLM torched neighborhoods, it was 'mostly peaceful' (to quote CNN). Mandate protestors honk some horns and they pose an active threat to society. Hmmmm. | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession.hahaha no easy i am replying to you because you answerd my post and unhealthy obsession you should be so lucky sweetchecks your really not my cup of tea,and whats me not voting got to do with anything? U mention revolution oooo im all for that,deal with the centreists firt though as they have no soul at least the far left and far right have ideals lol anyway im off out now though i will miss your words of wisdom xx Attempted patronisation too. You appear to be suffering from a stress response and no longer discussing the topic. You can, of course, post as you wish and should continue to regularly post about politics whilst claiming not to care about it and state that everything is terrible and nothing will change. Except, it seems, if we have a revolution led by any random individuals with extreme views "awww easy i just like seeing you chase your own tail when you dont get the answers you want and yes i will continue posting on here it dont matter if i think nothing will change same it dosent matter what you think my freind and patronising you??? I have far better things to waste my time on x | |||
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"I heard this positive speech to the truckers and I wanted to share it with you, there was more but I got most of it: The truckers of canada have made us proud, their courage and determination to stand against this and oppression has united this nation like nothing ever before, freedom is rising and millions who have been imprisoned in despair and darkness are now filled with hope and joy, freedom is rising and the truckers have lit a light of hope and redemption in the hearts, but time and truth go hand in hand and freedom is rising, the truckers of canada have united this great nation, like nothing ever before, you hardworking truckers that have kept the wheels of industry turning, you have brought the food to our tables and the clothes to our families, you have worked tirelessly to build this nation and to keep us fed and now you are changing history, like never before you stand, you stand like a lighthouse in the gloom, all of canada salutes you, we thank you, we are proud of you and we stand beside you, thank you "*... millions imprisoned* ? | |||
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"I heard this positive speech to the truckers and I wanted to share it with you, there was more but I got most of it: The truckers of canada have made us proud, their courage and determination to stand against this and oppression has united this nation like nothing ever before, freedom is rising and millions who have been imprisoned in despair and darkness are now filled with hope and joy, freedom is rising and the truckers have lit a light of hope and redemption in the hearts, but time and truth go hand in hand and freedom is rising, the truckers of canada have united this great nation, like nothing ever before, you hardworking truckers that have kept the wheels of industry turning, you have brought the food to our tables and the clothes to our families, you have worked tirelessly to build this nation and to keep us fed and now you are changing history, like never before you stand, you stand like a lighthouse in the gloom, all of canada salutes you, we thank you, we are proud of you and we stand beside you, thank you
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"kept the wheels of industry turning by blocking a bridge that caused two car plants either side of said bridge to shut down and send the workforce home with no pay ..... ironic "Not to mention other businesses supplying and dependent on them! I'm fairly open minded but some people let their biases blind them to a fuller perspective. | |||
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"I heard this positive speech to the truckers and I wanted to share it with you, there was more but I got most of it: The truckers of canada have made us proud, their courage and determination to stand against this and oppression has united this nation like nothing ever before, freedom is rising and millions who have been imprisoned in despair and darkness are now filled with hope and joy, freedom is rising and the truckers have lit a light of hope and redemption in the hearts, but time and truth go hand in hand and freedom is rising, the truckers of canada have united this great nation, like nothing ever before, you hardworking truckers that have kept the wheels of industry turning, you have brought the food to our tables and the clothes to our families, you have worked tirelessly to build this nation and to keep us fed and now you are changing history, like never before you stand, you stand like a lighthouse in the gloom, all of canada salutes you, we thank you, we are proud of you and we stand beside you, thank you
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"I heard this positive speech to the truckers and I wanted to share it with you, there was more but I got most of it: The truckers of canada have made us proud, their courage and determination to stand against this and oppression has united this nation like nothing ever before, freedom is rising and millions who have been imprisoned in despair and darkness are now filled with hope and joy, freedom is rising and the truckers have lit a light of hope and redemption in the hearts, but time and truth go hand in hand and freedom is rising, the truckers of canada have united this great nation, like nothing ever before, you hardworking truckers that have kept the wheels of industry turning, you have brought the food to our tables and the clothes to our families, you have worked tirelessly to build this nation and to keep us fed and now you are changing history, like never before you stand, you stand like a lighthouse in the gloom, all of canada salutes you, we thank you, we are proud of you and we stand beside you, thank you "Who made that speech? | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? " you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. " Lol. How many times have you been required to show your QR code to go about your business? I know that I never have. Cal | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Lol. How many times have you been required to show your QR code to go about your business? I know that I never have. Cal" you don't live in Canada please keep up | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. " Oh you mean like having to have a HGV Licence, MOT and maintainence records, Tachograph, Only permitted to drive so many hours a day, documents of what you are carrying. All to be provided if requested by the authorities. That kinda thing? ... hells teeth thats draconian what kinda society functions like that. | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Oh you mean like having to have a HGV Licence, MOT and maintainence records, Tachograph, Only permitted to drive so many hours a day, documents of what you are carrying. All to be provided if requested by the authorities. That kinda thing? ... hells teeth thats draconian what kinda society functions like that." My god you believe the government shit its not about making things safe, it's about telling people to take an untested drug and show a QR code to go into a bar restaurant or a shop. But that's ok because the government knows best. | |||
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"My god you believe the government shit its not about making things safe, it's about telling people to take an untested drug and show a QR code to go into a bar restaurant or a shop. But that's ok because the government knows best. " You're wrong and you know it but don't let that stop you | |||
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"the canadian police now appear to have cleared the few dozen lunatic fringe from their blockade.so people fighting for their rights are lunatics, hope you also believe that BLM protesters are arrested and jailed for years. What "rights" are they "fighting" for? Who are they? Any idea? Rights to have choose what medical procedures they want to undergo and what drugs to take. Rights not to be excluded from society over their medical choices. Rights not to lose their job and income over their medical choices. Rights to decide what medical choices their children should be subjected to. Might not seem important to you at all, and you might be happy to be tarred with the same brush and administered drugs that don't prevent you from spreading a disease every three months. If my own stepmother had the right to chose - she wouldn't be disabled right now. Those Rights. There is no requirement to be vaccinated. Society has every right to exclude people who have the potential to cause significant harm. There are many legal orders for mental health and terrorism. Medical harms are equally dangerous. You will be excluded from driving for choosing to drink more than a medically prescribed limit. I have been administered many drugs. Many consented for by parents not by me. I am grateful to them for that. None ever against my will. Again, this can happen, legally, in many circumstances. You don't seem to understand how the vaccines work. Best to read up. They still significantly reduce the chances of you becoming seriously ill or dying after three months or longer. They just aren't as good at preventing all symptoms from occurring. I do not know what circumstances under which your stepmother is ill. I assume you are implying that there was a direct connection to being vaccinated. Perhaps that is true, perhaps it is not. Terribly sad either way. Your personal experience, however negative, does not mean that it translates to the entire population though. You have not listed any rights that blocking cities and trade protects. You don't seem to understand how ALL medicine works and the fact that every single invented drug doesn't suit every single person, so creating mandates that state "get vaxed" or might as well go die because we will exclude you from society and take away your rights to honestly earn your living to provide for your family. If those mandates wouldn't be implemented - there would be nobody protesting and nobody's trade would be impacted. Desperate times lead to desperate measures. And yes, my stepmothers disability appeared within a week from having a second shot. A different family member who's 31, 100% healthy woman, who doesn't drink at all, doesn't smoke, doesn't have any unhealthy habits ended up in the hospital with enlarged heart on the same day after taking the second shot. She now has to live with a damaged valve. There's millions of people out there who had bad reactions to vaccines themselves and those people and their families are angry. Rightly fucking so! Vaccine or any other drug mandates brushed onto every single human being without any personal risk assessments are inhumane. All of that said - I was never against the vaccine, so save your manslaining please. I'm against mandates. " There is no forced vaccination, here or in Canada. What jobs can you not do unless you are vaccinated? You do understand that, don't you? The fact that someone becomes ill around the time that they had a vaccination or took any other medication does not mean that it is linked. You understand that too, right? The hospitals are not full of people who have become ill from the vaccine because if that was a widespread or even slight significant problem, the hospitals would be overflowing because 90% of the population has been vaccinated. The reality is hospitals have been on the verge of collapse and staff exhausted because of people suffering from Covid of which the unvaccinated are the largest proportion. Please look all of this up on medical and university sites, not Facebook and YouTube. What "millions"? Where have you got this secret information from? The people who's family members died because of lack of preparation for a pandemic and poor PPE supplies and an overstretched NHS are the ones who are the angriest. Together with the care staff stretched to breaking point. Unless, of course, they're making all of this up... | |||
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"Where is the UK convoy, this is a good point, it certainly started but not a thing on social media or youtube. This in itself is suspicious, did they keep them out of London because an awful lot more set off than what is seen on the mainstream media vlogs. Where are the protesters own vlogs of which there must have been some, but no not zilch The truckers In Canada stand for peace and unity, they say they will leave if Canadians want them to leave but so far overwhelming support £10.6 m raised and then when the government intervened and stoped the funds another £8m raised instantly, so yes they talk for Canadians. The elected officials speak for corporations such as big pharma, The organised protesters have dissed both the left and right and gone it on there own! They have asked and asked for sit down talks with government so they can deal with it and go home but guess what Trudeau won’t (can’t because of his interests) sit down with them I don’t think you realise most protesters are vaccinated Peace and love to the truckers, peace and love to everyone on here regardless of viewpoint, peace and love to the elected officials and the super rich billionaires, we are at such a precarious juncture we are going to need as much of it as possible! Is it suspicious if it doesn't actually constitute any sort of "convoy"? There is a YouTube clip of a protest with one lorry. Is that the one that what you mean? They will leave if Canadians ask them to leave? They have been asked to leave by the, elected, local government. By shopkeepers who's businesses are closed. By local residents who's daily life is disrupted. By carworkers who's jobs are on the line as supplies across the border are disrupted. How do the truckers unions who have disassociated themselves from this "speak for big pharma"? The 90% who are vaccinated and getting on with their lives don't seem much fussed and don't appear that "united" with the protesters position. Why should this small minority demand talks with Government? What right do they have above anyone else? Interesting that you are such a cheerleader. Who are the "leaders" of this group that should be negotiated with? How were they selected? Yes I am a cheerleader for freedom, Most protesters are vaccinated! Most Canadians are backing them! 2 provinces in Canada have now ended all mandates and want there citizens to unify and not judge weather someone wants to not get vaccinated or carry on wearing a mask when they no longer need to. The Canadians are thanking Trudeau for bringing them all together. A Union is its members if they have like you say dissed the movement then the union no longer has any use but then maybe that’s why the truckers did it for themselves. The elected government are not listening to the demands of the people, the protest is totally lawful. I can understand you being afraid of the movement and its implications for change but burying our heads in the sand whilst we moove into an age of such uncertainty, when our governments have proven to be on the side of the fat cat rich. If only we could come together and stop the fools from starting another war, it is not acceptable and is the last thing that should ever happen in this day of such connectivity but war is good for business but mustn’t be allowed to happen And what about the people who are dependent on the goods crossing that bridge for their living?perhaps they can put presure on the politicians to talk to the peaceful protesters or would you prefer they are dragged off the bridge,i imagine you dont belive in anything enough to stand up for it,keep licking the boots mate Why should they talk to them, out of interest? Who are the "leaders", who do they represent and who gave them that position? They are now breaking a court order and therefore breaking the law. The law should be applied appropriately. Unless the law is "optional"?so if it the law easy are you ok with the law being brought in here to do with protests, after all it will be the law or do you only agree with laws or prtests if its something you agree with hope we dont see you on here moaning about peoples right to protest in a couple of weeks time We have elected an instinctively anti-democratic government. Lucky us. It's a terrible law that effectively restricts the right to think about protest. Protesting against an immoral law is the correct thing to do, and the Police and courts enforcing that law is also the thing that they are constrained to do. It places both those services and society on a difficult position. So, yes, the law should be applied and the courts should rule and the appeal process should be followed and the Government and those who voted for them and vote through the law should be embarrassed. That is how all protest has taken place in societies that do not have a corrupt judicial process. The other alternative is revolution. You do not care about any of these things. You don't vote and think that nothing has changed. You are only posting now to criticise me, personally, because you are developing an unhealthy obsession.hahaha no easy i am replying to you because you answerd my post and unhealthy obsession you should be so lucky sweetchecks your really not my cup of tea,and whats me not voting got to do with anything? U mention revolution oooo im all for that,deal with the centreists firt though as they have no soul at least the far left and far right have ideals lol anyway im off out now though i will miss your words of wisdom xx Attempted patronisation too. You appear to be suffering from a stress response and no longer discussing the topic. You can, of course, post as you wish and should continue to regularly post about politics whilst claiming not to care about it and state that everything is terrible and nothing will change. Except, it seems, if we have a revolution led by any random individuals with extreme views awww easy i just like seeing you chase your own tail when you dont get the answers you want and yes i will continue posting on here it dont matter if i think nothing will change same it dosent matter what you think my freind and patronising you??? I have far better things to waste my time on x"Except that you apparently don't have anything better to because QED However, as you won't be replying to any of my posts again, having better things to do, I guess it's goodbye. I would say have a happy life, but that seems unlikely, so stay safe and well | |||
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous
Comparing BLM to a civil rights movement is frankly ridiculous.
They were a flash mob who torched buildings and destroyed livelihoods. Then their 'unelected' leaders ran off with $60m."It’s not frankly ridiculous…… it’s frankly offensive!! Let’s not mince words here!!! I always thought it was ironic that they decided to block the border crossings because it’s the one place where to cross in either direction you have to be vaccinated! So to pick those points is a deliberate “fuck you!” To the 90% Besides is self harming the nation really the best way to get your point across…. | |||
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"comparing the civil rights movement to a handful of lunatic fringe in tin-foil hats sat on a bridge for 5 minutes is frankly ridiculous
Comparing BLM to a civil rights movement is frankly ridiculous.
They were a flash mob who torched buildings and destroyed livelihoods. Then their 'unelected' leaders ran off with $60m.
It’s not frankly ridiculous…… it’s frankly offensive!! Let’s not mince words here!!!
I always thought it was ironic that they decided to block the border crossings because it’s the one place where to cross in either direction you have to be vaccinated! So to pick those points is a deliberate “fuck you!” To the 90%
Besides is self harming the nation really the best way to get your point across…."It's only offensive if you're easily offended. As for self harm, you seem to have forgotten the BLM protests trashed and looted black-owned businesses. | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Oh you mean like having to have a HGV Licence, MOT and maintainence records, Tachograph, Only permitted to drive so many hours a day, documents of what you are carrying. All to be provided if requested by the authorities. That kinda thing? ... hells teeth thats draconian what kinda society functions like that.My god you believe the government shit its not about making things safe, it's about telling people to take an untested drug and show a QR code to go into a bar restaurant or a shop. But that's ok because the government knows best. " My god the delusion is strong in this one ... Its not just our government or a few its all of them ... governments worldwide have approved and recomend/mandated vaccinations. 10.4 Billion doses given, death tolls fallen dramaticaly amd yet you still rely on the 'but its untested' defence. what are your paramaters for 'testing'? the vaccines are an example of what can be done when mankind comes together, scientists worldwide collaborate, unlimited funds are given and 10,000's of people volunteer for the trial phases. Governments of all persuasions acted the same way. Governments of all persuasions have agreed and support vaccination of THEIR populations. Some of these governmemts cant even agree on what is Ukranian territory and you think its still 'dodgy' As for 'QR' codes ... thats grasping at an irrelivent straw. Had to show my QR code to get into the footy, took a few seconds no big deal. Just the same as 'young uns' having to show ID to get in a nightclub, needing a passport to go abroad, driving licence to hire a car etc etc etc. | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Lol. How many times have you been required to show your QR code to go about your business? I know that I never have. Cal you don't live in Canada please keep up " According to the Canadian government website, you only need to prove vaccination status to enter or leave the country. Cal | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Lol. How many times have you been required to show your QR code to go about your business? I know that I never have. Cal you don't live in Canada please keep up According to the Canadian government website, you only need to prove vaccination status to enter or leave the country. Cal" vaccinated or un vaccinated people can still enter or leave canada. | |||
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"Have you ever thought how many people would be around to post on here if everyone would have refused to have the jab? you are not looking at what this is about, it's not just the jab it's showing your QR code and being forced to complie to every government order so you can just go about your business. Lol. How many times have you been required to show your QR code to go about your business? I know that I never have. Cal you don't live in Canada please keep up According to the Canadian government website, you only need to prove vaccination status to enter or leave the country. Cal vaccinated or un vaccinated people can still enter or leave canada. " Unvaccinated foreign travellers can only enter Canada under special circumstances | |||
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"vaccinated or un vaccinated people can still enter or leave canada. " apart from across a bridge which is blocked on the canada/us border by a handful of the lunatic fringe who claim to be protesting for freedom of movement by preventing peoples freedom to move across said bridge. | |||
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