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So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this. |
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem."
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language |
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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language "
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem 
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem
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Or … the infections appear to be mild and we haven’t a clue whether vaccinations make symptoms worse or better. |
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem
Or … the infections appear to be mild and we haven’t a clue whether vaccinations make symptoms worse or better. "
Having covid antibodies from vaccination cannot make symptoms worse at worst they will have no effect, but this hasn't been the case for anyone the previous variants. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this. "
I agree, the narrative is to drive people to their media pages online, where the consumer is inundated with adverts that pay the media's bills.
The fabric and authenticity of the story is irrelevant, the headline for attraction is all that matters. Someone is going to comment the BBC don't have adverts, they don't but they need to be able to demonstrate they are attracting more or equal to the number of viewers that media outlets who do advertise, to justify their cut of the license fee.
Going back to the new variant, I seem to remember one of our top science people saying this is the way a virus travels, mutates lots, becomes more transmissible but less harmful. Imagine this headline...
Great news everybody, the virus has mutated again as predicted and we hope it is going to be less harmful. Enjoy your day |
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem
Or … the infections appear to be mild and we haven’t a clue whether vaccinations make symptoms worse or better.
Having covid antibodies from vaccination cannot make symptoms worse at worst they will have no effect, but this hasn't been the case for anyone the previous variants."
I’ll agree that sense says they cannot make symptoms worse, but I don’t know that. I don’t know what you mean by this isn’t been the case for anyone the previous variants? |
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Think the general attitude is bring it on. My son recently had it and wouldn't of known.
I am fully vaccinated so am not too bothered. What will be will be is my attitude now. I really dont seem the point in getting vaccinated if we are going to hide away each time a new Variant comes. |
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"So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this. "
So that rate is original x4 x5 x8 x10 giving x1600 more than the original??!!! Have I got that right?
At that rate of change, masks will be useless because it will be coming done your WiFi. |
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem
Or … the infections appear to be mild and we haven’t a clue whether vaccinations make symptoms worse or better.
Having covid antibodies from vaccination cannot make symptoms worse at worst they will have no effect, but this hasn't been the case for anyone the previous variants.
I’ll agree that sense says they cannot make symptoms worse, but I don’t know that. I don’t know what you mean by this isn’t been the case for anyone the previous variants? "
Vaccination has had an effect on symptoms etc on all previous covid variants even omicron. |
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
That’s a great example of the OPs observation regarding language
Well if people choose not to get vaccinated against getting really sick then that indeed is their problem
Or … the infections appear to be mild and we haven’t a clue whether vaccinations make symptoms worse or better.
Having covid antibodies from vaccination cannot make symptoms worse at worst they will have no effect, but this hasn't been the case for anyone the previous variants.
I’ll agree that sense says they cannot make symptoms worse, but I don’t know that. I don’t know what you mean by this isn’t been the case for anyone the previous variants?
Vaccination has had an effect on symptoms etc on all previous covid variants even omicron. "
Is your assertion that the vaccine reduces the severity of symptoms? |
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"So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this.
I agree, the narrative is to drive people to their media pages online, where the consumer is inundated with adverts that pay the media's bills.
The fabric and authenticity of the story is irrelevant, the headline for attraction is all that matters. Someone is going to comment the BBC don't have adverts, they don't but they need to be able to demonstrate they are attracting more or equal to the number of viewers that media outlets who do advertise, to justify their cut of the license fee.
Going back to the new variant, I seem to remember one of our top science people saying this is the way a virus travels, mutates lots, becomes more transmissible but less harmful. Imagine this headline...
Great news everybody, the virus has mutated again as predicted and we hope it is going to be less harmful. Enjoy your day "
Bang on. I vaguely remember a few stories exactly like that when omicron came along... But quick as a flash that August and independent agency WHO were reported as warning ... "Oh no it isn't!"... Be scared. |
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"So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this.
So that rate is original x4 x5 x8 x10 giving x1600 more than the original??!!! Have I got that right?
At that rate of change, masks will be useless because it will be coming done your WiFi."
Well that's exactly my point... Now I'm not sure that I have recalled the multiplication factors accurately... But they are not far off from what WHO stated at the time. So what we have now is over a 1000 times more transmissible than the original flavour... Really? Man sneezes in Birmingham and infects woman in Leicester with new variant read the headline. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"So there's a new sub variant of omicron. Much as expected and of course there will be others.
It's even more transmissible than omicron says the who.
Which itself was 10 times more transmissible than delta which was 8 times more transmissible than beta which was 5 times more transmissable than alpha which was 4 times more transmissible than the original stain.
Really? I wonder why the linguistics of... "here's a new variant and it's even more transmissible than before so be worried"... Eventually people surely must wise up to the unhelpful language used by media and bodies that are leading this.
I agree, the narrative is to drive people to their media pages online, where the consumer is inundated with adverts that pay the media's bills.
The fabric and authenticity of the story is irrelevant, the headline for attraction is all that matters. Someone is going to comment the BBC don't have adverts, they don't but they need to be able to demonstrate they are attracting more or equal to the number of viewers that media outlets who do advertise, to justify their cut of the license fee.
Going back to the new variant, I seem to remember one of our top science people saying this is the way a virus travels, mutates lots, becomes more transmissible but less harmful. Imagine this headline...
Great news everybody, the virus has mutated again as predicted and we hope it is going to be less harmful. Enjoy your day
Bang on. I vaguely remember a few stories exactly like that when omicron came along... But quick as a flash that August and independent agency WHO were reported as warning ... "Oh no it isn't!"... Be scared. "
Yep and all of this feeds the discord we have as a nation.
The media treat us with contempt and the only reason they can get away with it is most of the people who have the power to stop them are afraid of what they will dig up on them....
The WHO have not come out of this well either as you point out, they really wanted to show the world their worth but gave some terrible advice at the start and continue as you mention to promote fear. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild""
Do you believe the media don't distort stories or the WHO didn't offer poor advice at the start of the pandemic? |
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild""
It's been normalised hasn't it? Our new back to normal / just living with it... |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild"
It's been normalised hasn't it? Our new back to normal / just living with it... "
Sadly yes. If it carried on like this that will be another 100,000 for the year. It seems they may not going to publish the deaths after April so they can keep pretending it is over |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem."
Seeing as most un vaccinated have immunity joe and the vaccinated are the ones repeatedly catching it I think there’s less for the un vaccinated to be worried about |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
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"It's got to the stage we don't care anymore, we are vaccinated,most of the new infections are only serious to the unvaccinated and that's their problem.
Seeing as most un vaccinated have immunity joe and the vaccinated are the ones repeatedly catching it I think there’s less for the un vaccinated to be worried about "
This . |
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild"
It's been normalised hasn't it? Our new back to normal / just living with it...
Sadly yes. If it carried on like this that will be another 100,000 for the year. It seems they may not going to publish the deaths after April so they can keep pretending it is over"
Political survival trump's all..
Hide the scientific advisors, limit the available tests to refuse the positive numbers and let it rip has been swallowed by some but the numbers are sadly going the wrong way.. |
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild"
It's been normalised hasn't it? Our new back to normal / just living with it...
Sadly yes. If it carried on like this that will be another 100,000 for the year. It seems they may not going to publish the deaths after April so they can keep pretending it is over
Political survival trump's all..
Hide the scientific advisors, limit the available tests to refuse the positive numbers and let it rip has been swallowed by some but the numbers are sadly going the wrong way.."
True, something smells, we haven't heard anything about jab4 yet and given our only response is keep jabbing the silence seems rather conspicuous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My FWB husband away for a week. A week of dirty sex in store until she had a positive LFT so now isolating until after he's back. I'm fucking sick of it all now"
U ok hun?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I suppose we could just watch how many deaths / infections and Hospital admissions and decide for ourselves
534 dead today if anyone is interested, lets hope the new one isn't as "mild"
It's been normalised hasn't it? Our new back to normal / just living with it...
Sadly yes. If it carried on like this that will be another 100,000 for the year. It seems they may not going to publish the deaths after April so they can keep pretending it is over"
Trump said stop testing and the positive results will go down. He was so right. |
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"My FWB husband away for a week. A week of dirty sex in store until she had a positive LFT so now isolating until after he's back. I'm fucking sick of it all now
U ok hun? "
No. You negative? Near by? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think we should all get together, with some cheese and wine, or bring your own if you wish, just like no' 10 did as they knew something we all didn't!! |
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