"Let's hope they at least keep the testing up  "
yeah I'd like to see this stay. Although not all have been doing so.
I don't see why they would need to relax entry, it's hardly a hardship to do a lft before going.
Although we things how they have been lately I've decided that testing or no testing,clubs are a bit too risky for me just now |
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"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs "
see I don't think they should be demanding vaccinations but I do think recent negative test.
And the covid passport is given without having the vaccinations. It also covers recent recovery from covid and I believe recent negative pcr for the domestic version |
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Trouble is even later flow tests are not guaranteed if someone who is positive decides to produce an old test that reads negative. People have done it to get round missing work which you have some sympathy with as what with the cost of living folk can’t afford time off.
Clubs have their own rules but it’ll be better if tests are taken on arrival. Obviously it’ll delay getting in but you’d know the result is genuine.
We had covid in the house at Christmas but neither of us had so much as a sniffle. We stayed at home fearing we’d go down with it but never did just shows not everyone catches it. In our families the two that had covid are triple jabbed as are we. |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs "
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports. |
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"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports. "
don’t the management of any privately owned establishment have the right to refuse entry to anyone they chose though? |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
". don’t the management of any privately owned establishment have the right to refuse entry to anyone they chose though?"
Not on private medical matters, no. There is a fine line to walk and without legal backing they have to fall in line. |
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"Trouble is even later flow tests are not guaranteed if someone who is positive decides to produce an old test that reads negative. People have done it to get round missing work which you have some sympathy with as what with the cost of living folk can’t afford time off.
Clubs have their own rules but it’ll be better if tests are taken on arrival. Obviously it’ll delay getting in but you’d know the result is genuine.
We had covid in the house at Christmas but neither of us had so much as a sniffle. We stayed at home fearing we’d go down with it but never did just shows not everyone catches it. In our families the two that had covid are triple jabbed as are we. "
Exactly this.
You don't even need to take an LFT to register the results. All you need is a test kit with a code and you can register a negative result. The whole system is and always has been far to easy to manipulate.
If the clubs really want to keep people safe they should be giving out the test kits on arrival and monitoring the results themselves.
And as for not allowing the unvaccinated entry, to me it just shows a lack of knowledge and understanding. Would agree if the vacinne stopped people from caughting the virus and passing it on but it doesn't. There's no justification for such a decision and causes an unnecessary divide  |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"Trouble is even later flow tests are not guaranteed if someone who is positive decides to produce an old test that reads negative. People have done it to get round missing work which you have some sympathy with as what with the cost of living folk can’t afford time off.
Clubs have their own rules but it’ll be better if tests are taken on arrival. Obviously it’ll delay getting in but you’d know the result is genuine.
We had covid in the house at Christmas but neither of us had so much as a sniffle. We stayed at home fearing we’d go down with it but never did just shows not everyone catches it. In our families the two that had covid are triple jabbed as are we.
Exactly this.
You don't even need to take an LFT to register the results. All you need is a test kit with a code and you can register a negative result. The whole system is and always has been far to easy to manipulate.
If the clubs really want to keep people safe they should be giving out the test kits on arrival and monitoring the results themselves.
And as for not allowing the unvaccinated entry, to me it just shows a lack of knowledge and understanding. Would agree if the vacinne stopped people from caughting the virus and passing it on but it doesn't. There's no justification for such a decision and causes an unnecessary divide "
Very well put. We discovered this on NYE, the club we wanted to go to (standard nightclub) wanted "official" LFT but that just menas they want it registered with Track and Trace; it relies too much on people being honest.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports. "
Not true… as clubs in general are covered under R.O.A.R rules…. (Right Over Admission Reserved) … basically they can put in any rules they like (as long as it doesn’t contradict discrimination laws) to prevent you from entering …. The classic example being not allowed to wear trainers into nightclubs
They would still be perfectly within their rights to request |
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By *Marvel-Man
over a year ago
In The Gym |
"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports.
Not true… as clubs in general are covered under R.O.A.R rules…. (Right Over Admission Reserved) … basically they can put in any rules they like (as long as it doesn’t contradict discrimination laws) to prevent you from entering …. The classic example being not allowed to wear trainers into nightclubs
They would still be perfectly within their rights to request"
I thought this when I remembered that some nightclubs when I was younger only allowed people over the age of 21 in their venue. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports.
Not true… as clubs in general are covered under R.O.A.R rules…. (Right Over Admission Reserved) … basically they can put in any rules they like (as long as it doesn’t contradict discrimination laws) to prevent you from entering …. The classic example being not allowed to wear trainers into nightclubs
They would still be perfectly within their rights to request
I thought this when I remembered that some nightclubs when I was younger only allowed people over the age of 21 in their venue. "
Yep….. as long as the request is not what would be deemed to be “unreasonable” they basically have carte Blanche to set the rules as they see fit.
I remember having the “but these aren’t trainer’s” chat more than once!  |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
Reading |
"Our local club is only allowing entry with a test and proof of two jabs
Once Plan B is gone, they have zero legal protection for the vaccination requirement and they will be slaughtered in court. They can require tests (as is right) as that is in the main legislation but not vaccination passports.
Not true… as clubs in general are covered under R.O.A.R rules…. (Right Over Admission Reserved) … basically they can put in any rules they like (as long as it doesn’t contradict discrimination laws) to prevent you from entering …. The classic example being not allowed to wear trainers into nightclubs
They would still be perfectly within their rights to request
I thought this when I remembered that some nightclubs when I was younger only allowed people over the age of 21 in their venue.
Yep….. as long as the request is not what would be deemed to be “unreasonable” they basically have carte Blanche to set the rules as they see fit.
I remember having the “but these aren’t trainer’s” chat more than once! "
Many years ago . The night club I used most Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays . Changed their dress code for entry. The week it changed . I had purchased an expensive ( £ 100+ ) leather jacket . Best described as motorcycle type. I was refused entry . Due to new dress code . |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
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Not true… as clubs in general are covered under R.O.A.R rules…. (Right Over Admission Reserved) … basically they can put in any rules they like (as long as it doesn’t contradict discrimination laws) to prevent you from entering …. The classic example being not allowed to wear trainers into nightclubs
They would still be perfectly within their rights to request"
I know about the R.O.A.R. rules but the exemption as you state is discrimination rules. The tests and vaccination rules were added to the coronavirus act to add extra criteria to current rules. Once rules are relaxed you can't go and add your own criteria. Dress codes are entirely different to private medical status which are covered under privacy law. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
When a person attends a club I would have thought all risks have been considered? If the thought of catching covid is a concern a club should probably be avoided.
With all the best will in the world someone, somewhere will catch something no matter how stringent the entry is.
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