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Very sad story here, read it all, so many examples in it of the challenges people face now...the mum chose not to get a vax but chose to get infected so she was allowed to go to theatre and music etc...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into "
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak |
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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak"
Govt just announced the end of Covid Passes (until they bring them back) |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak"
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"  |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes" "
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered? |
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"Very sad story here, read it all, so many examples in it of the challenges people face now...the mum chose not to get a vax but chose to get infected so she was allowed to go to theatre and music etc...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996
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Very sad, can you get into the theatre and music venues by having a covid test ? |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?"
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular. "
Do we know wether you had to be vaccinated to enter theatres and music venues or you could have had a test instead |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular.
Do we know wether you had to be vaccinated to enter theatres and music venues or you could have had a test instead "
I don't think it mentioned it in the story. |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular.
Do we know wether you had to be vaccinated to enter theatres and music venues or you could have had a test instead "
Taken from the article ............
Proof of vaccination or recent infection from the virus is required in the Czech Republic to gain entry to many social and cultural venues, including cinemas, bars and cafes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak"
That would make sense if most venues weren’t severely against passes, most prefer negative tests, but the government have taken their right to impose their own rules by forcing the passes to be an entry requirement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular. "
Is it really discrimination though? Or more a condition of entry?
For it to be discrimination it needs to infringe one of the protected characteristics, which are:
Age
Disability
Gender reassignment
Marriage and civil partnership
Pregnancy and maternity
Race
Religion and belief
Sex
Sexual orientation.
Which one would that be? and please dont say belief (as in I dont believe in this vaccination or simply dont want it etc) That standpoint has already been tested in law 'grainger v nicholson' & Farrell v South Yorkshire Police Authority and found not to meet the test of a belief which is:
The belief held must be genuinely held.
It must be a belief, not an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available.
It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life and behaviour.
It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.
It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, not be incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others
Simply having an opinon that the vaccination is not for you (no problem with that) does not constitute a belief.
And I suppose finally, even if it was 'discrimination' it can still be lawful and nothing you can do about it.
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular.
Is it really discrimination though? Or more a condition of entry?
For it to be discrimination it needs to infringe one of the protected characteristics, which are:
Age
Disability
Gender reassignment
Marriage and civil partnership
Pregnancy and maternity
Race
Religion and belief
Sex
Sexual orientation.
Which one would that be? and please dont say belief (as in I dont believe in this vaccination or simply dont want it etc) That standpoint has already been tested in law 'grainger v nicholson' & Farrell v South Yorkshire Police Authority and found not to meet the test of a belief which is:
The belief held must be genuinely held.
It must be a belief, not an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available.
It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life and behaviour.
It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.
It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, not be incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others
Simply having an opinon that the vaccination is not for you (no problem with that) does not constitute a belief.
And I suppose finally, even if it was 'discrimination' it can still be lawful and nothing you can do about it.
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So someone wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge doesn't have protected characteristics? |
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular.
Is it really discrimination though? Or more a condition of entry?
For it to be discrimination it needs to infringe one of the protected characteristics, which are:
Age
Disability
Gender reassignment
Marriage and civil partnership
Pregnancy and maternity
Race
Religion and belief
Sex
Sexual orientation.
Which one would that be? and please dont say belief (as in I dont believe in this vaccination or simply dont want it etc) That standpoint has already been tested in law 'grainger v nicholson' & Farrell v South Yorkshire Police Authority and found not to meet the test of a belief which is:
The belief held must be genuinely held.
It must be a belief, not an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available.
It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life and behaviour.
It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.
It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, not be incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others
Simply having an opinon that the vaccination is not for you (no problem with that) does not constitute a belief.
And I suppose finally, even if it was 'discrimination' it can still be lawful and nothing you can do about it.
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Is there a thing as political discrimination? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So so sad what discrimination passes are pushing people into
They are not discrimination passes, we all have choices, and with choices come consequences. And every private venue has a right to impose it own rules for entry, always has been that way, you dont like it, you go elsewhere. You reap what you sow, so to speak
Discrimination is not "CoNseQueNCes"
Again, it is NOT discrimination. And is your keyboard knackered?
It's the very definition of discrimination. Selecting what people can do based on an attribute. The fact most seem OK with it being "good" discrimination rather than "bad" discrimination means it's quite popular.
Is it really discrimination though? Or more a condition of entry?
For it to be discrimination it needs to infringe one of the protected characteristics, which are:
Age
Disability
Gender reassignment
Marriage and civil partnership
Pregnancy and maternity
Race
Religion and belief
Sex
Sexual orientation.
Which one would that be? and please dont say belief (as in I dont believe in this vaccination or simply dont want it etc) That standpoint has already been tested in law 'grainger v nicholson' & Farrell v South Yorkshire Police Authority and found not to meet the test of a belief which is:
The belief held must be genuinely held.
It must be a belief, not an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available.
It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life and behaviour.
It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.
It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, not be incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others
Simply having an opinon that the vaccination is not for you (no problem with that) does not constitute a belief.
And I suppose finally, even if it was 'discrimination' it can still be lawful and nothing you can do about it.
Is there a thing as political discrimination?"
It is possible as it would fall under 'belief' as long as you could satisfy a court that is was a genuine belief from the criteria previously posted then there may well be an argument.
I do know that this has been found to be discrimination in an Employment Appeals Tribunal (GMB v Henderson) which found someone had been dismissed partly on their political belief.
As ever with law and case law it is forever evolving. |
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