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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild " I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted 
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "Equally as disgraceful though is the Aussies rolling over and having their tummies tickled. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild " 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "who says hes supposed to be a roll model? He is a professional tennis player nothing more,or is it because he is in the public eye he should be sticking to the script? | |||
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"Good for him, no one should be forced into being vaxxed. " 100% to many people have too much to say about others. This government has turned us all into snitches & making it so others can’t have a different opinion. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "Roll model? Is he sponsored by Warburtons now? Accusing him of bribing medical professionals is an interesting twist. I thought medical professionals were beyond reproach. If they can be bribed to fake results of a test, could they be bribed to promote the use of a vaccine? | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
Roll model? Is he sponsored by Warburtons now?
Accusing him of bribing medical professionals is an interesting twist.
I thought medical professionals were beyond reproach.
If they can be bribed to fake results of a test, could they be bribed to promote the use of a vaccine?"Noooo, don’t be silly  | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "1 - applications for medical exemptions are anonymously processed by 2 separate panels 2 - Your assertion that ‘he’s a disgrace’ is negated by point 1 3 - He’s not anything other than a tennis player. Whilst you might not consider him to be a roll (sic) model, others may well see it differently NB - Djokovic refuses to make public his vaccination status. If you’re claiming he’s an anti-vaxxer then you’re taking a leap of faith | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes " Were the players that caught Covid forced to play? They could've pulled out if they weren't happy. If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum. | |||
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"He wasn't a role model to me, he is now though. More people need to stand up against ridiculous vaccine mandates. He's found a new fan here." | |||
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" If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum." The tournament he scheduled was in mid June 2020, at the time the ATP tennis tour had suspended all tournaments …. He did apologise for putting other players at risk, and infecting them and admitted that the tournament was far too soon to take place!!! You’ll also notice by the dates it was only 3 months in…. And there would not be any vaccines for another 6 months!! So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your time patterns… 
Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!!
But… if you are in a hole, stop digging…… | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine??? | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself "Totally agree Eevetyone has the CHOICE of taking or not taking the vaccine... Then a booster... And another booster.. Then maybe another one just to be safe... Then have a booster every cpl months just incase the first 4 didn't work  | |||
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" If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum. The tournament he scheduled was in mid June 2020, at the time the ATP tennis tour had suspended all tournaments …. He did apologise for putting other players at risk, and infecting them and admitted that the tournament was far too soon to take place!!! You’ll also notice by the dates it was only 3 months in…. And there would not be any vaccines for another 6 months!! So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your time patterns…
Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!!
But… if you are in a hole, stop digging……"Not digging a hole at all. Nice distraction from the primary question though. Were the players forced to attend the tournament? They obviously assessed the risk and decided to play. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine??? "I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? " Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes " He has been granted a medical exemption, which by all accounts has been processed appropriately. Unless you know differently of course? So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your processes… Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!! But… if you are in a hole, stop digging…… Touché | |||
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" If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum. The tournament he scheduled was in mid June 2020, at the time the ATP tennis tour had suspended all tournaments …. He did apologise for putting other players at risk, and infecting them and admitted that the tournament was far too soon to take place!!! You’ll also notice by the dates it was only 3 months in…. And there would not be any vaccines for another 6 months!! So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your time patterns…
Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!!
But… if you are in a hole, stop digging……
Not digging a hole at all. Nice distraction from the primary question though.
Were the players forced to attend the tournament?
They obviously assessed the risk and decided to play."Ooh… doublling down… all the players concerned were from the balkans, where they were a lot more lacked about lockdown and pressed quicker to reopen… all the players were local to the area ( Serbia and Croatia) But keep doubling down, forget about the apology he made and the admission the tournament was held too soon! Forget about the time scale involved You had your point to make and be dammed!! Am I right!!!!!!! (I imagine you folded your arms and grinned… well that showed him!!!) I mean… because you did know when the tournament took place, and the public apologies, when you wrote what you did…. See the issue is… if I say the word I think your post deserves, I get 48hrs…. If you just hold your hand up, and call yourself out on being factually incorrect based on you not knowing timeframes…. You actually gain a bit of respect !
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes He has been granted a medical exemption, which by all accounts has been processed appropriately. Unless you know differently of course? So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your processes… Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!! But… if you are in a hole, stop digging…… Touché " See… If you can tell me at the point I said he shouldn’t get a medical exemption, can you point it out to me…. Thank you! | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information " | |||
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"Well done on djokovic. Hope he wins the tournament, Imagine the headlines!! "He is the best tennis player in the world, he is favourite to win, what will be the headlines?? | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
"I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others. Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it? | |||
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" If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum. The tournament he scheduled was in mid June 2020, at the time the ATP tennis tour had suspended all tournaments …. He did apologise for putting other players at risk, and infecting them and admitted that the tournament was far too soon to take place!!! You’ll also notice by the dates it was only 3 months in…. And there would not be any vaccines for another 6 months!! So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your time patterns…
Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!!
But… if you are in a hole, stop digging……
Not digging a hole at all. Nice distraction from the primary question though.
Were the players forced to attend the tournament?
They obviously assessed the risk and decided to play.
Ooh… doublling down… all the players concerned were from the balkans, where they were a lot more lacked about lockdown and pressed quicker to reopen… all the players were local to the area ( Serbia and Croatia)
But keep doubling down, forget about the apology he made and the admission the tournament was held too soon! Forget about the time scale involved
You had your point to make and be dammed!! Am I right!!!!!!! (I imagine you folded your arms and grinned… well that showed him!!!)
I mean… because you did know when the tournament took place, and the public apologies, when you wrote what you did….
See the issue is… if I say the word I think your post deserves, I get 48hrs….
If you just hold your hand up, and call yourself out on being factually incorrect based on you not knowing timeframes…. You actually gain a bit of respect !
I know… baffling but true!!!! "An apology from someone in the public eye means absolutely zero. Its damage control. John Cena apologised to China last year for calling Taiwan a country. Its all about saving face. | |||
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"Well done on djokovic. Hope he wins the tournament, Imagine the headlines!!
He is the best tennis player in the world, he is favourite to win, what will be the headlines?? "Well look at the headlines now of him taking part! | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others.
Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it?"Twice!! What a legend. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others.
Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it?"You say zero problems but on other threads you said it was your second time with a sad face, followed with coughing a lung up. On a second thread you said you had covid over xmas but knew nothing about it, had a lingering cold for a few weeks. On a third thread you say you've had a cough since xmas and felt like crap for a few days, and you finish with saying it is a phlegmy cough. It don't know what to make of your symptoms? | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself "This . | |||
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"Well done on djokovic. Hope he wins the tournament, Imagine the headlines!!
He is the best tennis player in the world, he is favourite to win, what will be the headlines??
Well look at the headlines now of him taking part! "What headlines? It’s a non story, he has a medical exemption, without that he wouldn’t be playing | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This ."How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play "Wouldn’t | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model "As much as I don't like his position on this, I don't believe he's "supposed to be a role model". He's a professional tennis player, adept at hitting a rubber ball over a net, he hasn't any responsibility to social development or promoting any agenda other than his own. | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play "To be honest I’m a bit dubious about the medical exemption thing. Seems more like he just didn’t want to disclose his vaccination status but also still wanted to play. Could have easily pulled out the tournament or showed a valid vaccine pass, he did neither and got what he wanted. | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play
To be honest I’m a bit dubious about the medical exemption thing. Seems more like he just didn’t want to disclose his vaccination status but also still wanted to play. Could have easily pulled out the tournament or showed a valid vaccine pass, he did neither and got what he wanted. "Maybe, but without that exemption he wouldn’t be playing, so his so called ‘stand’ against disclosing his vaccination status doesn’t exist . | |||
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" If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum. The tournament he scheduled was in mid June 2020, at the time the ATP tennis tour had suspended all tournaments …. He did apologise for putting other players at risk, and infecting them and admitted that the tournament was far too soon to take place!!! You’ll also notice by the dates it was only 3 months in…. And there would not be any vaccines for another 6 months!! So… moral of the story, if you are going to try to be smart and make flippant comments like the one above, best know your time patterns…
Otherwise you end up looking like some sort of…. Well…. I’ll let you pick your word!!!
But… if you are in a hole, stop digging……
Not digging a hole at all. Nice distraction from the primary question though.
Were the players forced to attend the tournament?
They obviously assessed the risk and decided to play.
Ooh… doublling down… all the players concerned were from the balkans, where they were a lot more lacked about lockdown and pressed quicker to reopen… all the players were local to the area ( Serbia and Croatia)
But keep doubling down, forget about the apology he made and the admission the tournament was held too soon! Forget about the time scale involved
You had your point to make and be dammed!! Am I right!!!!!!! (I imagine you folded your arms and grinned… well that showed him!!!)
I mean… because you did know when the tournament took place, and the public apologies, when you wrote what you did….
See the issue is… if I say the word I think your post deserves, I get 48hrs….
If you just hold your hand up, and call yourself out on being factually incorrect based on you not knowing timeframes…. You actually gain a bit of respect !
I know… baffling but true!!!! "It's not an issue. Really. I got the timeframe wrong. Say the word. Doesn't matter if they were lax about lockdown or if the tournament was held too soon, the players took the decision to play. | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play
To be honest I’m a bit dubious about the medical exemption thing. Seems more like he just didn’t want to disclose his vaccination status but also still wanted to play. Could have easily pulled out the tournament or showed a valid vaccine pass, he did neither and got what he wanted.
Maybe, but without that exemption he wouldn’t be playing, so his so called ‘stand’ against disclosing his vaccination status doesn’t exist . "Well plenty people see it differently don’t they | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play
To be honest I’m a bit dubious about the medical exemption thing. Seems more like he just didn’t want to disclose his vaccination status but also still wanted to play. Could have easily pulled out the tournament or showed a valid vaccine pass, he did neither and got what he wanted. "I wonder which doctor he paid for | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play ""Medical Exemption" is a very broad term and very few people qualify as having one. It'll be interesting to see what specific reason they come out with to justify. I agree with his principle that somebody should not be coerced into having a vaccination and that an individual should not lose their livelihood as a result of personal choice. It just seems like a slap in the face to nurses/carers etc who are being made unemployed that such a strict nation has bent its own rules so flagrantly. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others.
Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it?
You say zero problems but on other threads you said it was your second time with a sad face, followed with coughing a lung up.
On a second thread you said you had covid over xmas but knew nothing about it, had a lingering cold for a few weeks.
On a third thread you say you've had a cough since xmas and felt like crap for a few days, and you finish with saying it is a phlegmy cough.
It don't know what to make of your symptoms? "I don't considered any of those symptoms to be a problem personally, I've had much worse from a bog standard cold. I however still have a slight cough today if it makes you feel better since my symptoms don't fit the narrative that we're all going to die | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others.
Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it?
You say zero problems but on other threads you said it was your second time with a sad face, followed with coughing a lung up.
On a second thread you said you had covid over xmas but knew nothing about it, had a lingering cold for a few weeks.
On a third thread you say you've had a cough since xmas and felt like crap for a few days, and you finish with saying it is a phlegmy cough.
It don't know what to make of your symptoms? I don't considered any of those symptoms to be a problem personally, I've had much worse from a bog standard cold.
I however still have a slight cough today if it makes you feel better since my symptoms don't fit the narrative that we're all going to die "It doesn't make me feel better, I'm just struggling to understand if you were ill or not with covid, you send mixed messages | |||
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"Fair play to him for standing up for himself This .
How has he ‘stood up for himself’ ? He has a medical exemption, without that he would’ve be allowed to play
"Medical Exemption" is a very broad term and very few people qualify as having one. It'll be interesting to see what specific reason they come out with to justify.
I agree with his principle that somebody should not be coerced into having a vaccination and that an individual should not lose their livelihood as a result of personal choice. It just seems like a slap in the face to nurses/carers etc who are being made unemployed that such a strict nation has bent its own rules so flagrantly."Australia seem to have a very poor record when it comes to looking after their regular citizens during this pandemic! When they first locked down the country Australian's abroad couldn't get back into the country, yet they were letting film stars, singers and anyone famous fly in and stay. This episode seems to follow the same logic, high profile come on in.... | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
I've had covid twice with zero problems, like millions of others.
Like I've said before, stats are great until you are the one having the issue, then it doesn't really matter how rare it is does it?
You say zero problems but on other threads you said it was your second time with a sad face, followed with coughing a lung up.
On a second thread you said you had covid over xmas but knew nothing about it, had a lingering cold for a few weeks.
On a third thread you say you've had a cough since xmas and felt like crap for a few days, and you finish with saying it is a phlegmy cough.
It don't know what to make of your symptoms? I don't considered any of those symptoms to be a problem personally, I've had much worse from a bog standard cold.
I however still have a slight cough today if it makes you feel better since my symptoms don't fit the narrative that we're all going to die
It doesn't make me feel better, I'm just struggling to understand if you were ill or not with covid, you send mixed messages"I was ill, few days on couch, bit of tiredness, nothing serious or that I haven't experienced many times before. I think I caught covid coming off back end of a cold, so my symptoms sort of just continued on, hence me assuming I still had a cold. My initial pcr was negative too and I only got a second test 10 days later because of a positive lft or I would have just kept assuming it was same cold. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes " I thought the theory and rhetoric of being stupid because you've contracted covid had been dismissed otherwise it seems that 90% of contributors on the forums must be stupid. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
""Was fine for me, should be fine for everyone" I'm sure that's how we end up wiy unnecessary deaths due to a vaccine that hasn't been tested. I personally know somebody who had VERY serious adverse effects to the vaccine, that she was FORCED to have in order to keep her job. You need a better argument, as yours is terribly flawed! | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
"Was fine for me, should be fine for everyone"
I'm sure that's how we end up wiy unnecessary deaths due to a vaccine that hasn't been tested.
I personally know somebody who had VERY serious adverse effects to the vaccine, that she was FORCED to have in order to keep her job.
You need a better argument, as yours is terribly flawed!"The vaccine has been tested. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
Roll model? Is he sponsored by Warburtons now?
Accusing him of bribing medical professionals is an interesting twist.
I thought medical professionals were beyond reproach.
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
"Was fine for me, should be fine for everyone"
I'm sure that's how we end up wiy unnecessary deaths due to a vaccine that hasn't been tested.
I personally know somebody who had VERY serious adverse effects to the vaccine, that she was FORCED to have in order to keep her job.
You need a better argument, as yours is terribly flawed!
The vaccine has been tested."No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine???
I have tested 3 doses personally
No problems here like millions of others
"Was fine for me, should be fine for everyone"
I'm sure that's how we end up wiy unnecessary deaths due to a vaccine that hasn't been tested.
I personally know somebody who had VERY serious adverse effects to the vaccine, that she was FORCED to have in order to keep her job.
You need a better argument, as yours is terribly flawed!
The vaccine has been tested.
No it hasn't... It was rush developed...
Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot.
Honestly."Theres a delicious irony about finishing your post with the word "honestly".
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
A disgrace because he doesn't want a un tested vaccine??? "9,260,000,000 vaccinations have already been given world wide. Please advise how many more are required before it can be considered to be "tested". | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly." The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes Were the players that caught Covid forced to play? They could've pulled out if they weren't happy. If they were vaccinated, the vaccine will have given them 'far more protection'* from the virus. * To quote a pro vaccine evangelist on this forum." Just info the tennis tournament was pre vaccine. | |||
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal" You're right, throwing a ton of money at it accelerates the build process. However, it doesn't buy you time to prove the vaccine is safe in the long term. | |||
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal" Not forgetting they had a head start from the Sars "template" that had already been developed. It's not like they were starting from scratch. Winston | |||
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal You're right, throwing a ton of money at it accelerates the build process. However, it doesn't buy you time to prove the vaccine is safe in the long term." I'm not sure how you make sure a vaccine, or any medicine for that matter, is "safe in the long term" without actually giving it to people and monitoring it. There were circa 40,000 people who volunteered during the trial. They're still being monitored today and showing no adverse reactions. How many people have to die of covid while we wait God knows how many years for a vaccine to be safe enough to administer? Not that any medicine is 100% Safe. Winston | |||
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"I actually really feel for The Australian government. Because he has got the exemption the can't discriminate him. Whilst I'm extremely dubious that he has a genuine medical exemption simply because of previous comments, I feel The Australian government had no choice. " Jeepers, listen to your own words: "Because he has got the exemption they can't discriminate him" and you feel for the Australian government! Because they can't discriminate against him now?
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild 1) his stupidity was the reason to how he caught it! He caught it originally by organising his own tournament and then a huge disco as an FU to people who were trying to do the sensible thing at the time He also managed to infect 12 of the 16 players at said tournament.. so said tournament had to be cancelled mid way through!!! 2) he is claiming “medical exception” so the Aussie open authorities may have to answer to the state and national government if they don’t have the relevant paperwork …. Especially after all the hoops they have made cricket Australia and the England cricket team so they could have the ashes " Sounds like Johnson’s tea party at Christmas | |||
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal You're right, throwing a ton of money at it accelerates the build process. However, it doesn't buy you time to prove the vaccine is safe in the long term. I'm not sure how you make sure a vaccine, or any medicine for that matter, is "safe in the long term" without actually giving it to people and monitoring it. There were circa 40,000 people who volunteered during the trial. They're still being monitored today and showing no adverse reactions. How many people have to die of covid while we wait God knows how many years for a vaccine to be safe enough to administer? Not that any medicine is 100% Safe. Winston " So you're saying there were no adverse events at all during the trial? I understand that safety data on uncommon adverse events, as well as medium or long term harms of any frequency, were necessarily limited at the time of mass vaccine rollout. This then leaves some of the most important questions about efficacy and safety to the post authorisation phase. In a document I found on Twitter, the doctors had concerns about post authorisation studies. They also had concerns that with the focus on developing vaccines for new variants, these post authorisation studies will have a lack of data and be conducted outside of the regulatory framework. You can choose to ignore these concerns, but some medical professionals are not. | |||
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"The majority (certainly not all) of the ongoing discussion around the safety of the covid vaccines is down to one thing. A lack of trust. Trust in government. Trust in big pharma. And the problem is that govts (and in particular ours in the UK this past two years) and big pharma have serious form for lying, deception, malpractice and corruption. And yet suddenly because of the pandemic we are told they need to be trusted. When you see govt officials flouting the rules, driving to “test their eyes”, not wearing masks, having parties, playing with their mistress etc some people will wonder what they know that we don’t? It feeds the conspiracies. When you see govt corruption that results in the largest transfer of public assets into private hands in history, some people question their motives. When you have the scientists working for pharma tell you their research and testing is totally sound and that they know xyz about efficacy, dosage/frequency etc only to then have this revised at what would appear to be a convenient moment, some people will have doubts. When you see govt “listening to the science” when it suits but ignoring it when it doesn’t (such as 6 week delay to closing border to India), some people will be concerned our leaders do not really have our best interests at heart. When you see govt pushing legislation through that severely damages/limits our rights, or seeking to change the electoral system in such a way that it only benefits those already in power and doing so during a global public health emergency (ie people are distracted), the some people will be worried about where this is all leading Trust is very hard to earn (although going by some on here that statement seems completely wrong) and very easy to lose. I have said it many times on here (getting boring I am sure) but always follow the money. While I actually do have confidence the vaccines work (but am bitterly disappointed they don’t work as well as we were told by those we are supposed to trust) and am very sceptical about some of the motives driving policy. There is so much money involved that a public health emergency creates the perfect situation for the corrupt to exploit for their own gain (and we know for fact they did around PPE, LFTs, and other med supplies). The pandemic is a disaster capitalists and corrupt opportunists wet dream. That makes motives questionable and trust continually gets eroded. " | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system" Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you" Does this advice apply to everyone? | |||
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"People losing their shit on here because a man said “no” to the absurdity of their cult…. Well done Novak…. And I truly feel for the brainwashed masses… stay indoors…. Listen ONLY to the handsomely paid govt stooges… and Big Bird off Sesame St " He didn’t say no to anything, he was given a medical exemption, | |||
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"People losing their shit on here because a man said “no” to the absurdity of their cult…. Well done Novak…. And I truly feel for the brainwashed masses… stay indoors…. Listen ONLY to the handsomely paid govt stooges… and Big Bird off Sesame St He didn’t say no to anything, he was given a medical exemption, "
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you" Any virus can be potentially lethal, influenza, Novovirus, vomiting bug, pretty much any virus at all. You name it, it can be potentially fatal to anyone. And the COVID vaccinated can and do transmit also. So should everyone just stay confined in their homes indefinitely? | |||
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"Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that his name is actually 'Novax'" It's Novak actually but hey, product placement | |||
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" No it hasn't... It was rush developed... Vaccines take YEARS to test, that's why it's managed to cause deaths and whatnot. Honestly. The reason why vaccines usually take many years to develop is down to funding, not science. Usually, what happens is that a research team develops an idea, and then seeks funding to start a project. They create their first vaccine to test, and then seek funding to start a trial. They then start a phase one trial and use the results to seek funding for moving to Phase two, etc... It often takes months/years to obtain the funding required to move on. With these covid vaccines, governments were throwing money at researchers and drugs companies to get them to develop a solution. Funding was never an issue, and as soon as potential solutions were in development orders were placed & paid for... providing more money to get the products ready. As the conspiracy nuts like to say, follow the money. In this case it shows exactly how a vaccine can be created "so quickly". Cal You're right, throwing a ton of money at it accelerates the build process. However, it doesn't buy you time to prove the vaccine is safe in the long term. I'm not sure how you make sure a vaccine, or any medicine for that matter, is "safe in the long term" without actually giving it to people and monitoring it. There were circa 40,000 people who volunteered during the trial. They're still being monitored today and showing no adverse reactions. How many people have to die of covid while we wait God knows how many years for a vaccine to be safe enough to administer? Not that any medicine is 100% Safe. Winston So you're saying there were no adverse events at all during the trial? I understand that safety data on uncommon adverse events, as well as medium or long term harms of any frequency, were necessarily limited at the time of mass vaccine rollout. This then leaves some of the most important questions about efficacy and safety to the post authorisation phase. In a document I found on Twitter, the doctors had concerns about post authorisation studies. They also had concerns that with the focus on developing vaccines for new variants, these post authorisation studies will have a lack of data and be conducted outside of the regulatory framework. You can choose to ignore these concerns, but some medical professionals are not." I'm not ignoring any concerns, I'm not daft enough to only listen to one source and be happy with that. Particularly dangerous if the source information confirms my own bias. I'm capable of looking at a variety of credible sources and forming my own opinion. I'm particularly interested in sources that challenge my belief. They're the ones I've learnt the most from. Some great advice given by my late grandfather, "you'll learn fuck all from listening to people that agree with you" Winston | |||
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"Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that his name is actually 'Novax' It's Novak actually but hey, product placement "Oh!  | |||
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"The majority (certainly not all) of the ongoing discussion around the safety of the covid vaccines is down to one thing. A lack of trust. Trust in government. Trust in big pharma. And the problem is that govts (and in particular ours in the UK this past two years) and big pharma have serious form for lying, deception, malpractice and corruption. And yet suddenly because of the pandemic we are told they need to be trusted. When you see govt officials flouting the rules, driving to “test their eyes”, not wearing masks, having parties, playing with their mistress etc some people will wonder what they know that we don’t? It feeds the conspiracies. When you see govt corruption that results in the largest transfer of public assets into private hands in history, some people question their motives. When you have the scientists working for pharma tell you their research and testing is totally sound and that they know xyz about efficacy, dosage/frequency etc only to then have this revised at what would appear to be a convenient moment, some people will have doubts. When you see govt “listening to the science” when it suits but ignoring it when it doesn’t (such as 6 week delay to closing border to India), some people will be concerned our leaders do not really have our best interests at heart. When you see govt pushing legislation through that severely damages/limits our rights, or seeking to change the electoral system in such a way that it only benefits those already in power and doing so during a global public health emergency (ie people are distracted), the some people will be worried about where this is all leading Trust is very hard to earn (although going by some on here that statement seems completely wrong) and very easy to lose. I have said it many times on here (getting boring I am sure) but always follow the money. While I actually do have confidence the vaccines work (but am bitterly disappointed they don’t work as well as we were told by those we are supposed to trust) and am very sceptical about some of the motives driving policy. There is so much money involved that a public health emergency creates the perfect situation for the corrupt to exploit for their own gain (and we know for fact they did around PPE, LFTs, and other med supplies). The pandemic is a disaster capitalists and corrupt opportunists wet dream. That makes motives questionable and trust continually gets eroded. " Incredibly well put | |||
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"Well done on djokovic. Hope he wins the tournament, Imagine the headlines!!
He is the best tennis player in the world, he is favourite to win, what will be the headlines??
Well look at the headlines now of him taking part! "I think him not taking part was more of a probability than him not winning it. Not much of a shock for him to win a tournament again that he has already won 6 times including the last 3 years running. He probably could win it this year without even turning up. | |||
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"I find it ironic and a tad bit amusing... On one point the Australian Government due to current world circumstances are clamping down heavily on travel restrictions/gatherings and enforcing social distancing/fines on its own citizens and vaccine mandates for certain work sectors And yet they see this big name athlete from abroad who has had no vaccine jabs from his own free will ok his choice and body but the Australian government pretty much just rolled out the red carpet and said “fuck it this bloke will bring in the big dollars and good publicity for us”... Kind off like a bad joke but hey ho it’s not the first time in history the more financially well off or those in higher social standing in life have been given exemptions and it won’t be the last... "Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure? | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system" It is also my body, so if I am following the rules and playing in the Australian Open, I think that I should be entitled to be protected by banning those that make a different choice! | |||
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"People losing their shit on here because a man said “no” to the absurdity of their cult…. Well done Novak…. And I truly feel for the brainwashed masses… stay indoors…. Listen ONLY to the handsomely paid govt stooges… and Big Bird off Sesame St He didn’t say no to anything, he was given a medical exemption,
He said no and your bottom lip quivered. why did he need exemption? Because he said no. Simple stuff really "My bottom lip quivered? Is everything ok? | |||
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"I find it ironic and a tad bit amusing... On one point the Australian Government due to current world circumstances are clamping down heavily on travel restrictions/gatherings and enforcing social distancing/fines on its own citizens and vaccine mandates for certain work sectors And yet they see this big name athlete from abroad who has had no vaccine jabs from his own free will ok his choice and body but the Australian government pretty much just rolled out the red carpet and said “fuck it this bloke will bring in the big dollars and good publicity for us”... Kind off like a bad joke but hey ho it’s not the first time in history the more financially well off or those in higher social standing in life have been given exemptions and it won’t be the last...
Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure?"The citizens of Australia have been forced into one of the longest and strictest lockdowns during this pandemic, and because of the hardships they have been forced to endure I think the Australian government needs to ensure more transparency in this case. | |||
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"I find it ironic and a tad bit amusing... On one point the Australian Government due to current world circumstances are clamping down heavily on travel restrictions/gatherings and enforcing social distancing/fines on its own citizens and vaccine mandates for certain work sectors And yet they see this big name athlete from abroad who has had no vaccine jabs from his own free will ok his choice and body but the Australian government pretty much just rolled out the red carpet and said “fuck it this bloke will bring in the big dollars and good publicity for us”... Kind off like a bad joke but hey ho it’s not the first time in history the more financially well off or those in higher social standing in life have been given exemptions and it won’t be the last...
Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure?
The citizens of Australia have been forced into one of the longest and strictest lockdowns during this pandemic, and because of the hardships they have been forced to endure I think the Australian government needs to ensure more transparency in this case. "The Australian PM has asked to see evidence of his exemption or he will be prevented from entering the country , | |||
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"I find it ironic and a tad bit amusing... On one point the Australian Government due to current world circumstances are clamping down heavily on travel restrictions/gatherings and enforcing social distancing/fines on its own citizens and vaccine mandates for certain work sectors And yet they see this big name athlete from abroad who has had no vaccine jabs from his own free will ok his choice and body but the Australian government pretty much just rolled out the red carpet and said “fuck it this bloke will bring in the big dollars and good publicity for us”... Kind off like a bad joke but hey ho it’s not the first time in history the more financially well off or those in higher social standing in life have been given exemptions and it won’t be the last...
Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure?
The citizens of Australia have been forced into one of the longest and strictest lockdowns during this pandemic, and because of the hardships they have been forced to endure I think the Australian government needs to ensure more transparency in this case.
The Australian PM has asked to see evidence of his exemption or he will be prevented from entering the country , "I think that is a sensible thing to do considering the governments track record during the pandemic | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised?" So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself?  | |||
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" Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure?" To be brutally honest No I don’t know the reason or have any remote solid information or whatever it is why he was given an exemption as I don’t know the man or have seen the Australian governments report on it... Fair point there are those who can’t have it for medical reasons so that’s understandable and the same way there are those who refuse to have it their body their choice and all that... Point I’m making is though is that had he just been you’re regular everyday average joe citizen seeking entry to Australia the odds off the Australian government being as lenient to his decision to not being vaccinated and trying to gain entry to their country would be very much little to none... | |||
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"I actually really feel for The Australian government. Because he has got the exemption the can't discriminate him. Whilst I'm extremely dubious that he has a genuine medical exemption simply because of previous comments, I feel The Australian government had no choice. Jeepers, listen to your own words: "Because he has got the exemption they can't discriminate him" and you feel for the Australian government! Because they can't discriminate against him now?
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"Wow! It's because he has made it clear he was never going to have the vaccine and has been quite anti-vax now has produced a medical exemption which many are sceptical about. | |||
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"People losing their shit on here because a man said “no” to the absurdity of their cult…. Well done Novak…. And I truly feel for the brainwashed masses… stay indoors…. Listen ONLY to the handsomely paid govt stooges… and Big Bird off Sesame St He didn’t say no to anything, he was given a medical exemption, "He has been saying no for months and made it clear he has never had any intention of getting the vaccine, He has been in trouble several times for breaking lockdown rules and tournament rules. He has never applied for an exemption before until now. | |||
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"I find it ironic and a tad bit amusing... On one point the Australian Government due to current world circumstances are clamping down heavily on travel restrictions/gatherings and enforcing social distancing/fines on its own citizens and vaccine mandates for certain work sectors And yet they see this big name athlete from abroad who has had no vaccine jabs from his own free will ok his choice and body but the Australian government pretty much just rolled out the red carpet and said “fuck it this bloke will bring in the big dollars and good publicity for us”... Kind off like a bad joke but hey ho it’s not the first time in history the more financially well off or those in higher social standing in life have been given exemptions and it won’t be the last...
Do we/you actually know the reason he got an exemption? There are plenty of people who CAN’T have the Covid vaccines. Do you know if Novak is one of them? Does he have to have full medical disclosure?
The citizens of Australia have been forced into one of the longest and strictest lockdowns during this pandemic, and because of the hardships they have been forced to endure I think the Australian government needs to ensure more transparency in this case.
The Australian PM has asked to see evidence of his exemption or he will be prevented from entering the country ,
I think that is a sensible thing to do considering the governments track record during the pandemic "I agree, if he has a genuine exemption then I can’t see the problem here | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information " It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? " I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well " 2 separate independent panels of medical experts assessed his application and granted an exemption based on one of the following: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders What more does the Australian PM or the wider public need to know? | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well 2 separate independent panels of medical experts assessed his application and granted an exemption based on one of the following: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders What more does the Australian PM or the wider public need to know?" The issue of trust is the problem here. The Australian government allowed the rich and famous to travel in and out of Australia while its citizens who were abroad were not allowed in. Add to this they have endured one of the longest and strictest lockdowns, it is no wonder that people are questioning the validity of this. | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well 2 separate independent panels of medical experts assessed his application and granted an exemption based on one of the following: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders What more does the Australian PM or the wider public need to know? The issue of trust is the problem here. The Australian government allowed the rich and famous to travel in and out of Australia while its citizens who were abroad were not allowed in. Add to this they have endured one of the longest and strictest lockdowns, it is no wonder that people are questioning the validity of this. " I “think” the most likely of those is he caught covid again and this time did not disclose it publicly.. although for drug testing purposes I am sure he would need to disclose that to whichever country he s living in, or the ATP | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well 2 separate independent panels of medical experts assessed his application and granted an exemption based on one of the following: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders What more does the Australian PM or the wider public need to know? The issue of trust is the problem here. The Australian government allowed the rich and famous to travel in and out of Australia while its citizens who were abroad were not allowed in. Add to this they have endured one of the longest and strictest lockdowns, it is no wonder that people are questioning the validity of this. I “think” the most likely of those is he caught covid again and this time did not disclose it publicly.. although for drug testing purposes I am sure he would need to disclose that to whichever country he s living in, or the ATP" which leads to the matter being of medical history privacy. Does the Australian PM and the public have a right to access any part of this? How much access does the public currently have to athletes drug testing history being held by the authorities… | |||
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"Statement: ""Djokovic applied for a medical exemption which was granted following a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts" The rules clearly specify when a medical exemption can be granted: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders Should he be made to disclose his entire medical history and undergo a mental health evaluation? Definitely not, that is his business and the public do not have the right to that information It looks like the Australian PM thinks the public do have a right to his medical records. Is there any point in having a rigorous review process involving two separate independent panels of medical experts? I don’t think we need to know all of his personal medical records… I think it’s a simple thing to just state for example “I happen to be allergic to something in the vaccine” which people would understand… It would help him, but because he has been so evasive it doesn’t help the perception of one rule for him I have another theory as to how he got the exemption… but we won’t know for sure till Paris or Wimbledon The other thing he seems to have gotten around with the medical exemption is that it looks as if he may not need to quarantine either… so I can see why a lot of other tennis players are pissed as well 2 separate independent panels of medical experts assessed his application and granted an exemption based on one of the following: -Inflammatory cardiac illness in the last three months - Undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness - A COVID-19 diagnosis that means vaccination cannot be made for six months - Any serious effect to a COVID-19 vaccine in the past - If the vaccine is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process - Underlying developmental or mental health disorders What more does the Australian PM or the wider public need to know? The issue of trust is the problem here. The Australian government allowed the rich and famous to travel in and out of Australia while its citizens who were abroad were not allowed in. Add to this they have endured one of the longest and strictest lockdowns, it is no wonder that people are questioning the validity of this. I “think” the most likely of those is he caught covid again and this time did not disclose it publicly.. although for drug testing purposes I am sure he would need to disclose that to whichever country he s living in, or the ATP which leads to the matter being of medical history privacy. Does the Australian PM and the public have a right to access any part of this? How much access does the public currently have to athletes drug testing history being held by the authorities… " I would think the Australian PM does have the right to know how people who are being given exemptions to the rules have qualified. It would be in the public interest as it as created such a fuss. | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model who says hes supposed to be a roll model? He is a professional tennis player nothing more,or is it because he is in the public eye he should be sticking to the script?"always find it funny when people say roll model never understood it | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? "yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine | |||
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ?" Yep, think you’re probably correct | |||
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ? Yep, think you’re probably correct "Does that label extend to anyone who has a medical exemption? | |||
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ? Yep, think you’re probably correct
Does that label extend to anyone who has a medical exemption?"Nope, just to Novak  | |||
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ? Yep, think you’re probably correct
Does that label extend to anyone who has a medical exemption?
Nope, just to Novak "If not for his medical exemption what has he done to deserve the label? | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model who says hes supposed to be a roll model? He is a professional tennis player nothing more,or is it because he is in the public eye he should be sticking to the script?"You don’t choose to be a role model or not , it comes with the job , but he’s a bad role model and selfish Not surprised he’s medically except, some of the worlds top sportsmen are so ill they need all kinds of prescription drugs to be able to play sport | |||
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"Stood his ground and the Aussie open organisers bottled it … He’s tested positive in 2020 has anti body’s and has already beaten COVID once … I can understand why he doesn’t want the vaccines. But watch the media frenzy and social media Karen’s go wild I wonder how many doctors he had to pay before he got the result he wanted
He’s a disgrace and supposed to be a roll model who says hes supposed to be a roll model? He is a professional tennis player nothing more,or is it because he is in the public eye he should be sticking to the script?
You don’t choose to be a role model or not , it comes with the job , but he’s a bad role model and selfish
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ? Yep, think you’re probably correct
Does that label extend to anyone who has a medical exemption?
Nope, just to Novak
If not for his medical exemption what has he done to deserve the label? "Blimey, how long have you got? A "Top Level" athlete exempt from a vaccine would probably have the balls to say why they're exempt..... Anyway, too nice an afternoon to bother arguing | |||
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"Never mind his vaccine status, it looks like he has fucked up his visa " I have just read this, it might take the heat out of this story for now. If I was him I would get my head down and let everything blow over and hope sponsors don't walk | |||
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"when the people of Melbourne have been under restrictions for over a year i can see why they are pissed off, a year of sacrifice and some rich tennis player can just walk all over the rules they have been following." Exactly that. My family all live in Melbourne and until recently was the most lockdown City on earth with much sacrifice. So this exemption however legitimate to the Melbourne public is a nod to privilege. I wouldn’t be surprised by a stadium of boos mind you that will spur him on to win it again am sure. | |||
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"Never mind his vaccine status, it looks like he has fucked up his visa " Very strange turn of events . Aside from his team making an error in the type of Visa applied for, Victoria State won’t provide the Visa support being requested by Federal Government even though it is Victoria States own Independent Medical Exemption Review Panel, who assesses all applications to see if they meet the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) guidelines, who has granted the medical exemption. Messy ! | |||
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"Maybe he is just a prize cunt then ? Yep, think you’re probably correct
Does that label extend to anyone who has a medical exemption?"No that's the label given to anyone who has consistently broken locked down rules and put others at risk, Is known to be a bit of a Dick in tennis circles and been antivaxx since the beginning of all of this. | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine"One word…. Selfish, uneducated cock! Sorry 3 words… | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine"WoW! | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine
One word…. Selfish, uneducated cock! Sorry 3 words… "lol sling abuse all you like but its not just unvaxed that are a danger to those who are compromised its everyone who is a danger to them,so if they want to stay safe they cant mix with anyone,if the want to get on with there life take there chances like everyone else or are you gona tell me the vaxxed aint a danger to them? Im tripple stabbed but i know i can still pass it on,so id say selfish uneducated cock is someone who thinks they aint a danger just because they have been jabbed,any why did u feel the need to reply to me i was having a discussion with _abio not yoursel so wind ya neck in you selfish uneducated cock xx | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine
One word…. Selfish, uneducated cock! Sorry 3 words… lol sling abuse all you like but its not just unvaxed that are a danger to those who are compromised its everyone who is a danger to them,so if they want to stay safe they cant mix with anyone,if the want to get on with there life take there chances like everyone else or are you gona tell me the vaxxed aint a danger to them? Im tripple stabbed but i know i can still pass it on,so id say selfish uneducated cock is someone who thinks they aint a danger just because they have been jabbed,any why did u feel the need to reply to me i was having a discussion with _abio not yoursel so wind ya neck in you selfish uneducated cock xx"Like others the need was probably felt as you were demonstrating patronising and insulting language. Whilst you may have a valid point regarding the need for people to protect themselves and not solely rely on others your methodology of getting this across is clearly. It to everyone’s tastes | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine
One word…. Selfish, uneducated cock! Sorry 3 words… lol sling abuse all you like but its not just unvaxed that are a danger to those who are compromised its everyone who is a danger to them,so if they want to stay safe they cant mix with anyone,if the want to get on with there life take there chances like everyone else or are you gona tell me the vaxxed aint a danger to them? Im tripple stabbed but i know i can still pass it on,so id say selfish uneducated cock is someone who thinks they aint a danger just because they have been jabbed,any why did u feel the need to reply to me i was having a discussion with _abio not yoursel so wind ya neck in you selfish uneducated cock xx"So your solution rather than everybody make small sacrifices is to completely shut away those who are among the most valuable in our society? Also before you start telling people to wind their neck in, you are not having a conversation with Fabio you are having a discussion on a public forum that anybody can join in on. | |||
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"What's funny for me is that it's been stated he's had covid twice, so has naturally built up antibodies to the virus. Which is exactly what a vaccination aims to do, bring about an immune response, and build antibodies against said virus. So everyone cawing for blood because he's decided to decline the vaccination, aren't doing so because he's a medical threat to society, they're doing it because he's not conforming to what they've been programmed to believe is right, or because the front page of The Sun or Sky News says that they must think a certain way. Utterly embarrassing." We know he had covid in June 2020 after he organised a tennis tournament, I'm not sure he has confirmed he has had covid twice. | |||
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"Exactly it's our bodies our choice,I've had no flu or Covid vaccines,I don't intend to,I trust my immune system Personal choice I get… but if you choose that way then stay at home and don’t risk passing on a potentially fatal virus to anyone else. You may have a great immune system, but many others don’t. Cancer patients, immune compromised such as crones… many many people you come into contact with may pick up the virus you may carry and that can have a life hanging effect. Does that sound like I’m upset by attitudes some have? Yes…. Thank you well shouldnt those people who are compromised stay home then after all the vaxxed can still pass on this virus aswell or dont the vaxxed pass it on to the compromised? So the people who CAN make a choice decision are telling those people who CANT make a choice decision to stay home, because it’s impeding their freedom…… Did you just listen to yourself? yep _abio i did listen to myself u obviously just read the part of my post u wanted to,if there compromised stay at home,vaxxed can still infect people just as easily as unvaxxed so if those who are compromised dont wana catch it then they cant mix with anyone that clearer for you sunshine
One word…. Selfish, uneducated cock! Sorry 3 words… lol sling abuse all you like but its not just unvaxed that are a danger to those who are compromised its everyone who is a danger to them,so if they want to stay safe they cant mix with anyone,if the want to get on with there life take there chances like everyone else or are you gona tell me the vaxxed aint a danger to them? Im tripple stabbed but i know i can still pass it on,so id say selfish uneducated cock is someone who thinks they aint a danger just because they have been jabbed,any why did u feel the need to reply to me i was having a discussion with _abio not yoursel so wind ya neck in you selfish uneducated cock xx
So your solution rather than everybody make small sacrifices is to completely shut away those who are among the most valuable in our society?
Also before you start telling people to wind their neck in, you are not having a conversation with Fabio you are having a discussion on a public forum that anybody can join in on. "I was replying to _abio the sumone ive never seen on the forums before decides to call me selfish uneducated cock so well within my rights to tell them to wind there neck in as for the vunerable staying indoors i was trting to point out to _abio they are at risk from the vaxxed aswell as the unvaxed so its either take the risk like everyone else or stay indoors as EVERYONE is a risk to them,i can infect someone if i have covid just like an unvaxed person can,only difference is an unvaxxed with covid is more likley to be ill enough to know they have got it unlike us vaxxed who could be wandering about blissfully unaware we are infected because we are less likley to have any symptoms. | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep " If he doesn't want a vaccine he doesn't have to have it, but you can't have it both ways. And that is where the problem is, I think it is more of a case of him being seen to get preferential treatment or swerving the rules. | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep " Baaaaaa!!! | |||
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"It’s academic now his Visa has been cancelled. " He exercised his right not to get vacvinated. Australia exercised its right not to let him in! | |||
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"It’s academic now his Visa has been cancelled. He exercised his right not to get vacvinated. Australia exercised its right not to let him in! " I think it’s his visa that has been cancelled.. because the hold up once he was on the plane was because of his team and not him The health minister is saying his documents were not in order… | |||
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"On a side note… can you wait to see this episode of “border security” turn up on sky!!! It will be madness! Seriously though, it’s been fascinating reading Australian Twitter and the reporting journalists have been doing… the story gets madder and madder " I agree … the story gets madder and madder | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep " So someone who is vaccinated doesn't have beliefs? | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep So someone who is vaccinated doesn't have beliefs?" I believe that the anti-vaxxers are the ones living in fear of a little injection… I also believe that they’re the sheep, endlessly parroting the same nonsense about “untested”, “big pharma” and “medical apartheid”… And I strongly believe that those that choose not to are all selfish morons who are easily swayed by social media… | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep " And good for Australia for standing up for there beliefs maybe if this country we in would do the same we could get out this mess abit quicker | |||
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"What's funny for me is that it's been stated he's had covid twice, so has naturally built up antibodies to the virus. Which is exactly what a vaccination aims to do, bring about an immune response, and build antibodies against said virus. So everyone cawing for blood because he's decided to decline the vaccination, aren't doing so because he's a medical threat to society, they're doing it because he's not conforming to what they've been programmed to believe is right, or because the front page of The Sun or Sky News says that they must think a certain way. Utterly embarrassing." You have absolutely hit the nail on the head … great post | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale " Irrelevant, he was denied for visa issues | |||
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"It’s academic now his Visa has been cancelled. He exercised his right not to get vacvinated. Australia exercised its right not to let him in! " | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale Irrelevant, he was denied for visa issues " “Visa issues” lol … il have some of what you’ve been smoking | |||
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"On a side note… can you wait to see this episode of “border security” turn up on sky!!! It will be madness! Seriously though, it’s been fascinating reading Australian Twitter and the reporting journalists have been doing… the story gets madder and madder " Oh that'd be hilarious viewing | |||
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"Maybe he should stop being so precious and just get jabbed. " He’s had COVID once for sure possibly twice … has anti bodies and is a danger to no one … but “let’s get jabbed” because “that’s what my tv said he should do” ignoring scientific data that says if you’ve had COVID have anti bodies you are protected already … | |||
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"Good for him for standing up for his beliefs shame everyone else are sheep " Here's the thing about sheep. They flock together to protect one another when there's a wolf about. Not quite the insult you were thinking it was.......
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""What's funny for me is that it's been stated he's had covid twice, so has naturally built up antibodies to the virus. Which is exactly what a vaccination aims to do, bring about an immune response, and build antibodies against said virus. So everyone cawing for blood because he's decided to decline the vaccination, aren't doing so because he's a medical threat to society, they're doing it because he's not conforming to what they've been programmed to believe is right, or because the front page of The Sun or Sky News says that they must think a certain way. Utterly embarrassing." Iv reposted this as it was so good "Two wrongs don't make a right. | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale " Allegedly he failed to provide evidence of his entitlement to vaccine exemption and so his visa cannot be accepted. Therefore denied entry. A bit like I'd be denied entry to Benin or Congo or Angola (or a bunch of other countries) without a valid Yellow Fever vaccine certificate OR a valid exemption letter that is approved by the border entry requirements of the country I'm entering. Many of the students I teach must provide negative TB test certificates before they can get a visa to come to the UK. No TB cert, no visa. It's very simple. | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale Allegedly he failed to provide evidence of his entitlement to vaccine exemption and so his visa cannot be accepted. Therefore denied entry. A bit like I'd be denied entry to Benin or Congo or Angola (or a bunch of other countries) without a valid Yellow Fever vaccine certificate OR a valid exemption letter that is approved by the border entry requirements of the country I'm entering. Many of the students I teach must provide negative TB test certificates before they can get a visa to come to the UK. No TB cert, no visa. It's very simple. " He’s had COVID and has anti bodies… what don’t you understand ? The arguments you made are a absolute joke when used against some one who has had COVID and antibodies | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale Allegedly he failed to provide evidence of his entitlement to vaccine exemption and so his visa cannot be accepted. Therefore denied entry. A bit like I'd be denied entry to Benin or Congo or Angola (or a bunch of other countries) without a valid Yellow Fever vaccine certificate OR a valid exemption letter that is approved by the border entry requirements of the country I'm entering. Many of the students I teach must provide negative TB test certificates before they can get a visa to come to the UK. No TB cert, no visa. It's very simple. " Rules that have been around for decades in literally dozens of countries throughout the world. All of a sudden this is new news and people are losing their minds. The abject failure to understand how the big wide world works is astonishing. Winston | |||
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"Maybe he should stop being so precious and just get jabbed. He’s had COVID once for sure possibly twice … has anti bodies and is a danger to no one … but “let’s get jabbed” because “that’s what my tv said he should do” ignoring scientific data that says if you’ve had COVID have anti bodies you are protected already … " So are you saying that because he's already had it once it twice he's not able to pass it on? Don't be so wet! | |||
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale Allegedly he failed to provide evidence of his entitlement to vaccine exemption and so his visa cannot be accepted. Therefore denied entry. A bit like I'd be denied entry to Benin or Congo or Angola (or a bunch of other countries) without a valid Yellow Fever vaccine certificate OR a valid exemption letter that is approved by the border entry requirements of the country I'm entering. Many of the students I teach must provide negative TB test certificates before they can get a visa to come to the UK. No TB cert, no visa. It's very simple. He’s had COVID and has anti bodies… what don’t you understand ? The arguments you made are a absolute joke when used against some one who has had COVID and antibodies " I don't understand what you don't understand. But that's not new.
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"denied entry to Novak Djokovic, even though he has recovered from Covid and provided expert opinion for medical vaccine exemption. This is psychosis on an entirely new scale Allegedly he failed to provide evidence of his entitlement to vaccine exemption and so his visa cannot be accepted. Therefore denied entry. A bit like I'd be denied entry to Benin or Congo or Angola (or a bunch of other countries) without a valid Yellow Fever vaccine certificate OR a valid exemption letter that is approved by the border entry requirements of the country I'm entering. Many of the students I teach must provide negative TB test certificates before they can get a visa to come to the UK. No TB cert, no visa. It's very simple. He’s had COVID and has anti bodies… what don’t you understand ? The arguments you made are a absolute joke when used against some one who has had COVID and antibodies " If a student has had TB in the past, they still must provide adequate documents to evidence why they cannot be vaccinated etc. It's simply the rules of entry to the country. If he (Djokovic) is exempt from the entry requirements, he should provide the required documents to the Australian authorities and he'd have been allowed in. If you don't like the entry rules to a country, then don't go. Many people choose not to get all sorts of vaccines that mean they cannot go and work abroad. Mr KC did not wish to get the Yellow Fever vaccine and so he did not work in Africa when he was an offshore worker. He remained in Europe, Israel and almost had a stint in the Falklands. | |||
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