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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … " less of the riddicule please. Citizens must comply to have any chance of getting back to the life of 2020. Even if there are boosters 5, 6, 7, 8......1000 you must trust the government and pharma industries. Take ALL the boosters and continue with mask wearing. It all makes perfect sense so shut up and comply! | |||
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"Had my fourth last week. *shrug*" Do you mind if I ask how you feel about people that stop at 3 ? Genuine question as I see a lot of blaming going on online | |||
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"Had my fourth last week. *shrug* Do you mind if I ask how you feel about people that stop at 3 ? Genuine question as I see a lot of blaming going on online " I feel they're following appropriate medical advice at this time, and I'm glad they have access to the resources to do so. | |||
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"Had my fourth last week. *shrug* Do you mind if I ask how you feel about people that stop at 3 ? Genuine question as I see a lot of blaming going on online " My old man's on his 23rd flu vaccine. Viruses mutate and the Covid vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity. Nobody falls out with each other over how many flu jabs they've had. Covid will become endemic as we learn to live with it and its variants which will constantly crop due to vaccine hesitancy, wilful resistance and unequal global distribution. | |||
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"Had my fourth last week. *shrug* Do you mind if I ask how you feel about people that stop at 3 ? Genuine question as I see a lot of blaming going on online My old man's on his 23rd flu vaccine. Viruses mutate and the Covid vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity. Nobody falls out with each other over how many flu jabs they've had. Covid will become endemic as we learn to live with it and its variants which will constantly crop due to vaccine hesitancy, wilful resistance and unequal global distribution. " I hit flu vax 20 this year. Just not a big deal. | |||
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"What does it matter how many jabs we get? When Covid’s gone, they’ll stop, and that’s fine. If Covid never goes and we need a jab 4 times a year until the end of our natural spans to protect us against it, that’s fine too…however unlikely it might prove to be." This | |||
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"Had my fourth last week. *shrug* Do you mind if I ask how you feel about people that stop at 3 ? Genuine question as I see a lot of blaming going on online My old man's on his 23rd flu vaccine. Viruses mutate and the Covid vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity. Nobody falls out with each other over how many flu jabs they've had. Covid will become endemic as we learn to live with it and its variants which will constantly crop due to vaccine hesitancy, wilful resistance and unequal global distribution. I hit flu vax 20 this year. Just not a big deal." Just have to accept you may still get the flu, you may still get Covid etc, but you have pushed the odds of a mild version significantly upwards and to most people this is a good thing. | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines." That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. People think vaccine passports are controversial! | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. People think vaccine passports are controversial! " Interestingly, there is an argument for compulsory vaccination based on public harm. You're generally not allowed to act in a way that will harm other people - you aren't allowed to hit them, stab them or steal their property - such things are illegal. Now, a case could be made that unvaccinated people are causing a degree of harm by allowing a dangerous disease to continually propagate. Therefore they should be forced to have the vaccine and be punished if they don't. Personally, I don't think that'll ever happen - but you never know... | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines." So did you have 3rd I have had 2 and both made me poorly for about a week so lost out to time off work so for me at the moment it's worth a risk as covid might only be as bad as the vaccine | |||
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"The WHO have said that countries using constant boosters risk prolonging the global pandemic" Where have they said that? | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. People think vaccine passports are controversial! Interestingly, there is an argument for compulsory vaccination based on public harm. You're generally not allowed to act in a way that will harm other people - you aren't allowed to hit them, stab them or steal their property - such things are illegal. Now, a case could be made that unvaccinated people are causing a degree of harm by allowing a dangerous disease to continually propagate. Therefore they should be forced to have the vaccine and be punished if they don't. Personally, I don't think that'll ever happen - but you never know..." Maybe enforce other restrictions on people After all a big argument is that by refusing the vaccine you potentially take up a hospital place, putting extra (and unnecessary) strain on the NHS Smoking has no known benefits and causes strain on the health service so we could ban that Alcohol too Obesity cause's around 30'000 deaths a year (and those that don't die cause strain on the system through type II diabetes etc) so maybe impose annual health tests, and punish those overweight | |||
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"By the way I’m actually pro vax … especially for the most at risk ,100% … but people in there teens 20s 30s … no health issue and no weight issues … I myself understand not continually taking vaccines for this group …I just wonder how others feel about it " Sorry, that's not how it works If you don't take this specific vaccine, regardless of your previous vaccine uptake, you are a murderous negligent conspiracy theorist anti vaxxer and that's all there is too it | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. People think vaccine passports are controversial! Interestingly, there is an argument for compulsory vaccination based on public harm. You're generally not allowed to act in a way that will harm other people - you aren't allowed to hit them, stab them or steal their property - such things are illegal. Now, a case could be made that unvaccinated people are causing a degree of harm by allowing a dangerous disease to continually propagate. Therefore they should be forced to have the vaccine and be punished if they don't. Personally, I don't think that'll ever happen - but you never know... Maybe enforce other restrictions on people After all a big argument is that by refusing the vaccine you potentially take up a hospital place, putting extra (and unnecessary) strain on the NHS Smoking has no known benefits and causes strain on the health service so we could ban that Alcohol too Obesity cause's around 30'000 deaths a year (and those that don't die cause strain on the system through type II diabetes etc) so maybe impose annual health tests, and punish those overweight " Harm to others. That was fairly explicit and yet you haven't addressed it. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned " Yep fully conned and have 90% less chance of being hospitalised and dying from covid when compared to all these critical thinkers | |||
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"The WHO have said that countries using constant boosters risk prolonging the global pandemic Where have they said that? " https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/who-warns-against-vaccine-hoarding-poor-countries-go-without-2021-12-09/ ____ Was all over the news yesterday | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. " 100% safe? | |||
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"The WHO have said that countries using constant boosters risk prolonging the global pandemic Where have they said that? " They actually said that the rest of the world should receive their first round of vaccines before boosters are administered to anyone other than high risk groups. Virus mutation is far more likely in the unvaccinated due to the much higher viral load they carry, hence the increased likelihood of extending the pandemic. The WHO has made it clear that boosters are necessary and that even fully vaccinated countries may well need them now due to the rapid Omicron spread. | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. 100% safe?" No. Just like going for a walk or having a shower. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned " You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have? | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. People think vaccine passports are controversial! Interestingly, there is an argument for compulsory vaccination based on public harm. You're generally not allowed to act in a way that will harm other people - you aren't allowed to hit them, stab them or steal their property - such things are illegal. Now, a case could be made that unvaccinated people are causing a degree of harm by allowing a dangerous disease to continually propagate. Therefore they should be forced to have the vaccine and be punished if they don't. Personally, I don't think that'll ever happen - but you never know... Maybe enforce other restrictions on people After all a big argument is that by refusing the vaccine you potentially take up a hospital place, putting extra (and unnecessary) strain on the NHS Smoking has no known benefits and causes strain on the health service so we could ban that Alcohol too Obesity cause's around 30'000 deaths a year (and those that don't die cause strain on the system through type II diabetes etc) so maybe impose annual health tests, and punish those overweight Harm to others. That was fairly explicit and yet you haven't addressed it. " By your individual choices you put yourself at risk The NHS must then use resources to address your (self inflicted) problems, therefore reducing their ability to address the problems of people who are at no fault I thought that was obvious When you refer to yoursyas ample I'm assuming you don't mean your level of perception | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. " Yet all come with documented risks showing the side effects, which are not safe. Go figure.... | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have?" Quantify, with numbers what constitutes 'far' | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ??" Curious to see what co morbidities they have I've not had the flu shot / Covid shot I'm at low risk of severe illness from both When I think it's the right choice for me I'll get the flu / Covid shot I'm not particularly worried about the effect to others of the flu / Covid | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have? Quantify, with numbers what constitutes 'far'" No. The information is widely available and has been for many months and posted multiple times on this forum. You are the one trying to make a point. Make it with meaningful, objective data and some level of scientific and statistical understanding otherwise it's just noise. | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Curious to see what co morbidities they have I've not had the flu shot / Covid shot I'm at low risk of severe illness from both When I think it's the right choice for me I'll get the flu / Covid shot I'm not particularly worried about the effect to others of the flu / Covid" Nobody actually knows what their susceptability to Covid is. That's how statistics work. The fact that you are not concerned about consequences is careless. That's the definition of the word without even needing to be a value judgement. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have?" You are far less likely to pass on the virus (Vaccinated up to the hilt can also shed the virus) You are far less likely to catch the virus. Higher numbers of vaxxed now testing positive - also tripple vaxxed more than 4 times as likely to test positive for Omicron - ONS Data You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. There are a lot of double and tripple vaxxed dying You are far less likely to die - not the case in reality compared to what you are being told by government and big pharma. You were also told that it would be 2 weeks to flatten the curve, 2 jabs to freedom etc... | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ??" Do you have a source? | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. That's currently your right but it hasn't always been so. The first vaccine was developed in 1790 to fight smallpox. In 1853, the immunisation of all infants against the disease was made compulsory in England, with parents who refused punishable by fines and prison terms. In China, people have been pinned down and forcibly vaccinated against Covid. There is a line of thought that although the public should generally be free to behave like they want, constraining their behaviour is acceptable when their actions cause harm to others. " But where is the proof that someone unvaccinated is more a harm to others in the current context than someone who is not. I mean to ask genuinely... what evidence is there beyond sensationalist mainstream media drivel? | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ??" How many of these 48% are being primarily treated for Covid, and how many contracted it whilst in hospital? Numbers mean nothing without context | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Curious to see what co morbidities they have I've not had the flu shot / Covid shot I'm at low risk of severe illness from both When I think it's the right choice for me I'll get the flu / Covid shot I'm not particularly worried about the effect to others of the flu / Covid" It would be good to have stats that show how many people have died WITH COVID and also FROM COVID. It would make things clearer for a lot of people who are rushing to get their booster over a variant with mild symptoms. Yesterday you could say that 67,893,878 did not test positive for covid. (obviously there are other factors in this figure, but without clear unbiased data it is not helping anyone other than the governments agenda). | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have? Quantify, with numbers what constitutes 'far'" You'll be in for a long wait. | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? How many of these 48% are being primarily treated for Covid, and how many contracted it whilst in hospital? Numbers mean nothing without context" | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. 100% safe? No. Just like going for a walk or having a shower." None of which you are coerced into via threats of exclusion from society. | |||
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" You are far less likely to die. " What was the likelihood before and after so we can calculate what 'far' is? Or is this another one of your stats that we're going to have to take your word on? | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Curious to see what co morbidities they have I've not had the flu shot / Covid shot I'm at low risk of severe illness from both When I think it's the right choice for me I'll get the flu / Covid shot I'm not particularly worried about the effect to others of the flu / Covid Nobody actually knows what their susceptability to Covid is. That's how statistics work. The fact that you are not concerned about consequences is careless. That's the definition of the word without even needing to be a value judgement." You're opinion is as worthless to me as is your existence | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Curious to see what co morbidities they have I've not had the flu shot / Covid shot I'm at low risk of severe illness from both When I think it's the right choice for me I'll get the flu / Covid shot I'm not particularly worried about the effect to others of the flu / Covid Nobody actually knows what their susceptability to Covid is. That's how statistics work. The fact that you are not concerned about consequences is careless. That's the definition of the word without even needing to be a value judgement. You're opinion is as worthless to me as is your existence" Don't worry about him lol....he is in a mad panic | |||
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" But where is the proof that someone unvaccinated is more a harm to others in the current context than someone who is not. I mean to ask genuinely... what evidence is there beyond sensationalist mainstream media drivel? " I mean, if you're asking genuinely, have you not been on Google and searched for relevant studies showing that vaccination reduces risk of transmission? They're out there. Links to journals often aren't allowed, but there is an article on Nature for one that shouldn't be hard to find. | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … " Well yes, vaccines wane in effectiveness, so boosters are needed from time to time. This isn't difficult to grasp. | |||
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" But where is the proof that someone unvaccinated is more a harm to others in the current context than someone who is not. I mean to ask genuinely... what evidence is there beyond sensationalist mainstream media drivel? I mean, if you're asking genuinely, have you not been on Google and searched for relevant studies showing that vaccination reduces risk of transmission? They're out there. Links to journals often aren't allowed, but there is an article on Nature for one that shouldn't be hard to find. " Generally found my links have been allowed. Other than to a preprint but the website wasn't obvious what it did. B If in doubt, post article names | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … Well yes, vaccines wane in effectiveness, so boosters are needed from time to time. This isn't difficult to grasp. " But 4 in the space of a year is excessive don't you think? | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned You are far less likely to pass on the virus. You are far less likely to catch the virus. You are far less likely to fall seriously ill. You are far less likely to die. If you are vaccinated. Everyone, including you, is completely aware of that. Who is trying to con whom by stating the situation in the way that you have?" Can I ask a sensible question. If you are less likely to pass the virus on and far less likely to catch the virus why when 83% of eligible people have had two doses and are vaccinated, why is the virus still spreading at an alarming rate? | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … Well yes, vaccines wane in effectiveness, so boosters are needed from time to time. This isn't difficult to grasp. But 4 in the space of a year is excessive don't you think?" Nothing is excessive if it means protecting the NHS. | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … " A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… " UK not considering a 4th dose? Sitting down with popcorn and as I eat it, I'm looking forward to you eating your words..... So many said the same about a booster.... A never ending cycle | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… " How do you know what the Govt is considering? I suspect they are at least considering it but I don't know as I'm not in Government Agree a bet should not be welched on | |||
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"Been offered my third and 4th in 6 months… cos I’m in high risk category " That is fair enough. And it should be like that for people who are at risk. But pushing vax passports which are only valid if they have their boosters,on healthy young people not at risk is just crazy. Giving it to children is crazy. | |||
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"For those that can’t understand my last post As we have known for ages, people go into hospital with a serious health issue, catch Covid whilst in hospital, and if they die they are labelled as dying from Covid instead of being correctly labelled as dying with Covid." What does it matter, if but for Covid they would have survived? If Covid finishes you off or directly kills you, you're still dead. | |||
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"2/3rds of new COVID hospital patients in England only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness official data shows (dailymail, telegraph, bbc news) It’s a pandemic of data that has a narrative … do you see it yet anon? " You have to know if someone is being admitted into has covid, just so you aren’t spreading it in hospital… I’m not sure why you are trying to sensationalise basic common sense!! P.s… today’s new case number… 119,789…. That now basically 1.25 million new cases since the bet….. | |||
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"For those that can’t understand my last post As we have known for ages, people go into hospital with a serious health issue, catch Covid whilst in hospital, and if they die they are labelled as dying from Covid instead of being correctly labelled as dying with Covid." It was quite clear and I completely agree. we need clarity and clear data, which can only be gained by submitting a freedom of information act request.... It should be published as such and no doubt make people clear of how inflated the figures really are. | |||
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"Been offered my third and 4th in 6 months… cos I’m in high risk category That is fair enough. And it should be like that for people who are at risk. But pushing vax passports which are only valid if they have their boosters,on healthy young people not at risk is just crazy. Giving it to children is crazy. " Why crazy? If they are asymptomatic vectors who could unwittingly pass on to someone vulnerable and kill them, isn't it the opposite of crazy to vaccinate them as it reduces the risk of transmission? | |||
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"That's a lot of Bill Gates Micro chips. " To be honest I prefer McCanns. | |||
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"For those that can’t understand my last post As we have known for ages, people go into hospital with a serious health issue, catch Covid whilst in hospital, and if they die they are labelled as dying from Covid instead of being correctly labelled as dying with Covid. It was quite clear and I completely agree. we need clarity and clear data, which can only be gained by submitting a freedom of information act request.... It should be published as such and no doubt make people clear of how inflated the figures really are. " But you've already made your mind up 'how inflated the figures really are' | |||
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"2/3rds of new COVID hospital patients in England only tested positive AFTER being admitted for a different illness official data shows (dailymail, telegraph, bbc news) It’s a pandemic of data that has a narrative … do you see it yet anon? You have to know if someone is being admitted into has covid, just so you aren’t spreading it in hospital… I’m not sure why you are trying to sensationalise basic common sense!! P.s… today’s new case number… 119,789…. That now basically 1.25 million new cases since the bet….." Il pay of course. what’s your ethereum or Bitcoin address | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… " Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' " What does it matter if there is a 4th dose ? If it’s needed then it’s fine | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' What does it matter if there is a 4th dose ? If it’s needed then it’s fine " This must be a quandary for a person of the anti-vax persuasion, after-all how could anybody live long enough to be given a forth dose of the poison vaccine. It must be doin their head in. | |||
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" But 4 in the space of a year is excessive don't you think?" Only if it’s more than you need. If changes in the virus mean the existing level of vaccination is not sufficient, then the number of jabs is irrelevant - the level of protection is what counts. | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' What does it matter if there is a 4th dose ? If it’s needed then it’s fine This must be a quandary for a person of the anti-vax persuasion, after-all how could anybody live long enough to be given a forth dose of the poison vaccine. It must be doin their head in." | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas " What's ED stand for ? | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' What does it matter if there is a 4th dose ? If it’s needed then it’s fine This must be a quandary for a person of the anti-vax persuasion, after-all how could anybody live long enough to be given a forth dose of the poison vaccine. It must be doin their head in." Actual anti vaxxers are mental But there's a fucking monumental difference between 'I'm anti vaxx and wouldn't take any vaccine ever' And 'I just don't want this particular one thanks' Pretending there isn't is a cunt move | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ?" Emergency Department? | |||
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"I will not be accepting any more vaccines. So did you have 3rd I have had 2 and both made me poorly for about a week so lost out to time off work so for me at the moment it's worth a risk as covid might only be as bad as the vaccine " Had 3rd yesterday. From now on I will take my chances. | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? " That's what I thought but it was written ED Department so didn't know what they meant | |||
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"I personally stopped at the 2 x" Fine, but it's like stopping taking antibiotics two thirds into the recommended dose. Medically dangerous 'Get the booster' is the official advice | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? " Erectile dysfunction department obviously | |||
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"“Britain is considering the rollout of a fourth round of vaccinations against Covid-19. It comes after both Israel and Germany gave the green light to a second set of boosters” Roll up roll up come and get your 4th vax … can’t wait for the people that have had 4 start to turn on the people that have only had 3 … A) the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose….. B) in Israel a 4th dose is only being considered for those over 80, and those people who are immunocompromised C) 1.1 million cases and counting since “the bet”…. I hope you are a man of your word… Professor Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said elderly adults who had received their boosters early “may need a further jab” and that it was “still very much in doubt” whether all adults would get a fourth dose. You cannot extrapolate from the above that 'the uk is NOT considering a 4th dose' What does it matter if there is a 4th dose ? If it’s needed then it’s fine This must be a quandary for a person of the anti-vax persuasion, after-all how could anybody live long enough to be given a forth dose of the poison vaccine. It must be doin their head in. Actual anti vaxxers are mental But there's a fucking monumental difference between 'I'm anti vaxx and wouldn't take any vaccine ever' And 'I just don't want this particular one thanks' Pretending there isn't is a cunt move" There’s lots of pretending in this section. Some of us have had every vaccine under the sun, just not this one. We are still lumped in with anti vaxxers. It doesn’t bother me any more. | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? That's what I thought but it was written ED Department so didn't know what they meant " Happens all the time How often do you see PAT test? Taken literally, they're saying Portable Appliance Test test! | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? That's what I thought but it was written ED Department so didn't know what they meant Happens all the time How often do you see PAT test? Taken literally, they're saying Portable Appliance Test test! " Like putting you PIN number in at the bank (Personal Identification Number...number) | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? That's what I thought but it was written ED Department so didn't know what they meant Happens all the time How often do you see PAT test? Taken literally, they're saying Portable Appliance Test test! Like putting you PIN number in at the bank (Personal Identification Number...number)" Thanks, I was literally racking my brain trying to remember that one! | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! " One little step at a time … they take a step until you protest and then they stop and they they take another step until you protest again and then they stop … before you know it your miles past what you thought was your red line and they do it right under your nose | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! One little step at a time … they take a step until you protest and then they stop and they they take another step until you protest again and then they stop … before you know it your miles past what you thought was your red line and they do it right under your nose" I had this exact conversation today about petrol prices. When it went to £1 a litre, everyone went bonkers! Look at the price now and no one says anything! | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? Erectile dysfunction department obviously " No wonder they wouldn't give me a reach around when I went there. | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! One little step at a time … they take a step until you protest and then they stop and they they take another step until you protest again and then they stop … before you know it your miles past what you thought was your red line and they do it right under your nose" So to combat this tyranny you take up arms and fight for freedoms or you form a political movement and stand to be elected …. Err, or just say “I ain’t having no vaccine” Power to the People | |||
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"Shrugs, tuts, puts on my uniform ready for another night in the ED department. Happy xmas What's ED stand for ? Emergency Department? Erectile dysfunction department obviously No wonder they wouldn't give me a reach around when I went there. " What is the point in us all paying our taxes if we can't get a reach around lol | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! " Which tyrannical regime do you personally equate the present government to as they try and deal with this global pandemic..? Khmer rouge, North Korea etc.. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned " they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. " . People are beginning to see through it all now. I was told there will never be a 4th shot by someone on here. Too many are brainwashed. You just have to look at the comments lol….. The way I see it is asking this question…… What do pro vaxxed and anti vaxxers have in common??? THEY WILL NEVER BE FULYY VAXXED | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. . People are beginning to see through it all now. I was told there will never be a 4th shot by someone on here. Too many are brainwashed. You just have to look at the comments lol….. The way I see it is asking this question…… What do pro vaxxed and anti vaxxers have in common??? THEY WILL NEVER BE FULYY VAXXED " Of course not... You're never "fully vaxxed" for flu either. I understand and accept the necessity of boosters, and will have as many as deemed necessary. | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. . People are beginning to see through it all now. I was told there will never be a 4th shot by someone on here. Too many are brainwashed. You just have to look at the comments lol….. The way I see it is asking this question…… What do pro vaxxed and anti vaxxers have in common??? THEY WILL NEVER BE FULYY VAXXED " thats a fair point and has a lot of truth in it when you think about it. There is no such thing as “fully vaxxed” - “temporarily vaxxed” is closer to the truth now that the scientists tell us our immunity has an expiry date which means regular jabs in order to remain in date & valid. | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! Which tyrannical regime do you personally equate the present government to as they try and deal with this global pandemic..? Khmer rouge, North Korea etc.. " The mafia | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! Which tyrannical regime do you personally equate the present government to as they try and deal with this global pandemic..? Khmer rouge, North Korea etc.. The mafia " Only claimed if someone has seen all of the Godfather series and goodfellas.. | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! " Well at least in the uk you can call the government whatever you like and hold your own political views without your whole family disappearing | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. . People are beginning to see through it all now. I was told there will never be a 4th shot by someone on here. Too many are brainwashed. You just have to look at the comments lol….. The way I see it is asking this question…… What do pro vaxxed and anti vaxxers have in common??? THEY WILL NEVER BE FULYY VAXXED Of course not... You're never "fully vaxxed" for flu either. I understand and accept the necessity of boosters, and will have as many as deemed necessary. " . I have images of no space left on your arms to insert a needle ?? in that case having had so many vaccines ?? | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. " You probably heard what you wanted to hear, not what was actually said | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. " Use I player, and listen to what was said because you've got it wrong with your post.. | |||
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"Tyranny is like having bad breath it’s happening right under your nose but you fail to recognise or even acknowledge it so it continues and continues until you do something about it !! Which tyrannical regime do you personally equate the present government to as they try and deal with this global pandemic..? Khmer rouge, North Korea etc.. The mafia Only claimed if someone has seen all of the Godfather series and goodfellas.. " I told some anti vaxxers that eating a Goodfella’s pizza meant that you had swallowed a tracking device and you would get a visit from some Italian gentlemen so they steer clear of the pizza isle in supermarkets and shit a brick if a Dominos delivery car goes by. | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. " did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's? | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's?" My sister was taken into hospital today (by ambulance), non Covid related. She said they wanted to discharge her as quickly as possible as they were running out of beds as they were filling up with Covid cases. “Mostly old people i expect” she said. Overwhelming majority under 40 and unvaccinated was the answer. | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's? My sister was taken into hospital today (by ambulance), non Covid related. She said they wanted to discharge her as quickly as possible as they were running out of beds as they were filling up with Covid cases. “Mostly old people i expect” she said. Overwhelming majority under 40 and unvaccinated was the answer." Doesn't that just say it all??? | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's? My sister was taken into hospital today (by ambulance), non Covid related. She said they wanted to discharge her as quickly as possible as they were running out of beds as they were filling up with Covid cases. “Mostly old people i expect” she said. Overwhelming majority under 40 and unvaccinated was the answer. Doesn't that just say it all???" It does. I was trying to message Cicipom, 31 year old male from Blackpool, to advise him about this after he sent me this private message earlier : "never worn a mask, taken a test or isolated with symptoms or taken any of the coward jabs and im alive. Real men simply dont need vaccines. Try and vaccinate me and the nurse will find a blade in her neck or needle in her eye" But having sent me the message, he must have accidentally blocked me, as I find I cannot reply It must have been accidental, cos a 'real man' surely wouldn't have trolled and then made himself unreachable? Would he? | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's? My sister was taken into hospital today (by ambulance), non Covid related. She said they wanted to discharge her as quickly as possible as they were running out of beds as they were filling up with Covid cases. “Mostly old people i expect” she said. Overwhelming majority under 40 and unvaccinated was the answer." It's cool they give random patients information like that | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Do you have a source?" Liverpool: 33% unvaccinated- 95% in hospital are unvaccinated. Like Australia are planning, need Intensive Care without a vaccine and no medical reason for not having. Send them the bill to cover the cost. Darwen awards being given next year. | |||
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"Just heard on the news 3rd jab probably only last 10 weeks. Not me had the two that’s my lot. did you not also hear then how the booster retains protection from severe illness and watch the video tour round Liverpool ICU where 4 out of 5 were unvacinated and in their 20's n 30's? My sister was taken into hospital today (by ambulance), non Covid related. She said they wanted to discharge her as quickly as possible as they were running out of beds as they were filling up with Covid cases. “Mostly old people i expect” she said. Overwhelming majority under 40 and unvaccinated was the answer. Doesn't that just say it all??? It does. I was trying to message Cicipom, 31 year old male from Blackpool, to advise him about this after he sent me this private message earlier : "never worn a mask, taken a test or isolated with symptoms or taken any of the coward jabs and im alive. Real men simply dont need vaccines. Try and vaccinate me and the nurse will find a blade in her neck or needle in her eye" But having sent me the message, he must have accidentally blocked me, as I find I cannot reply It must have been accidental, cos a 'real man' surely wouldn't have trolled and then made himself unreachable? Would he? " I have had similar emails from a couple of people with the same kind of narrative trying to convince me that vaccine was not working I just delete them | |||
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" Another intereting fact ...just under/over 10% of the Uk haven't any jab so are classed as unvaccinated ..yet they make 48% of people in icu ?? Do you have a source? Liverpool: 33% unvaccinated- 95% in hospital are unvaccinated. Like Australia are planning, need Intensive Care without a vaccine and no medical reason for not having. Send them the bill to cover the cost. Darwen awards being given next year." Does this also include smokers,obese people,alcoholics and drug addicts having to pay for any treatments aswell? | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned " . So if you believe that what’s the con and what’s the reason for it | |||
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"I’d gladly stop paying national insurance contributions to the NHS and put it towards private healthcare. I think this should definitely be an option so we don’t overwhelm the precious NHS In a real pandemic you don’t prepare to sack 50,000 or whatever it was unvaccinated NHS workers" Probably best not to make up stuff though | |||
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"To all the experts in here who said we won’t have a 4th shot….. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-set-for-early-fourth-covid-vaccination-3wng3drhx " Good to see the govmnt prioritising the health of its citizens. 4, 5, 6 however many is better than been intubated or dying. | |||
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"As long as the big pharmaceutical companies are making unimaginable profits the boosters will keep coming." the money is with the testing.... It's c 5x as many tests as vaccines ... And my guess is the margins are higher .... | |||
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"To all the experts in here who said we won’t have a 4th shot….. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-set-for-early-fourth-covid-vaccination-3wng3drhx " Naturally the times is like the bible ... Never wrong Actually the 4th jab will be the FIRST jab as it's against a mutation rather than the original strain. Remember the flu jab ? | |||
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"As long as the big pharmaceutical companies are making unimaginable profits the boosters will keep coming.the money is with the testing.... It's c 5x as many tests as vaccines ... And my guess is the margins are higher ...." I bet the cocktail of medicine in hospital costs the NHS a pretty penny, too. | |||
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"To all the experts in here who said we won’t have a 4th shot….. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-set-for-early-fourth-covid-vaccination-3wng3drhx Good to see the govmnt prioritising the health of its citizens. 4, 5, 6 however many is better than been intubated or dying." If the mRNA vaccines are as clever as has been described by people on here who claim to know what they are talking about then this should've been sorted in 2 doses. | |||
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"We'll take as many boosters as needed to help keep ourselves, those we love and those around us as protected as possible. We still wear our masks, social distance as much as possible and wash our hands thoroughly. I find it hard to see why anyone wouldn't mitigate risk as much as is practicable. Winston " Do you wear a mask and social distance at meets? I refuse to meet at the moment with infection rates climbing. Does that worry you? | |||
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"Stop being so soft and submissive, you ain’t protecting anyone by conforming and giving the government more power to fuck you. People are so deluded and blind to see what’s going on that there prepared to inject multiple experimental vaccines into their bodies to feel safe from the made up fear. It took over 50years to develop a flu vaccine that’s only 70% successful and yet you trust them to create a vaccine with 18months that works? You know our government removed the right to sue and prosecute these vaccine manufactures if you develop or die from a side effect? People dropping dead from Jabs left right and centre, don’t expect the little black box in the corner of your living room to report those statistics. Your handing your freedoms over and demanding us that don’t want to, to the do the same for the sake of your own safety. It’s only matter of time but there rounding the unvaccinated onto trains like they did in Germany with the dissidents, yet people don’t see it coming " If you wish to imagine people are acting in accordance with your dystopian fantasies, you go right ahead. | |||
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"It’s only matter of time before the penny drops with most people and they see what the government and their billionaire owners are trying to achieve. Give it time and you’ll wish there were more nut jobs like me around dropping bombs of wisdom " Nah. If true, I'll blame people on that side for not presenting any credible evidence. If evidence indistinguishable from street preacher, not worth considering. | |||
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"It’s only matter of time before the penny drops with most people and they see what the government and their billionaire owners are trying to achieve. Give it time and you’ll wish there were more nut jobs like me around dropping bombs of wisdom " What are they trying to achieve? | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. 100% safe?" No medication is typically 100% safe. Just like sex. | |||
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"It’s only matter of time before the penny drops with most people and they see what the government and their billionaire owners are trying to achieve. Give it time and you’ll wish there were more nut jobs like me around dropping bombs of wisdom " Not seen the wisdom yet. | |||
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"The vaccine is safe lol, explain that to the over 100 professional athletes that have had to retire because of health issues over the last 12month. People fit as a fiddle dropping dead or I’ll within days of being jabbed. Oh Yh you didn’t see it on your telly or the BBC didn’t inform you so it can’t be true " is this the "fifa" list. Can you provide a link to the cases ? | |||
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"The vaccine is safe lol, explain that to the over 100 professional athletes that have had to retire because of health issues over the last 12month. People fit as a fiddle dropping dead or I’ll within days of being jabbed. Oh Yh you didn’t see it on your telly or the BBC didn’t inform you so it can’t be true " It's not on any other reputable sites. Hmm, is every single reputable news outlet in the world cooperating? That's quite a feat in our time of leaks! | |||
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"If you still need a booster after being fully vaxxed & you still need to get tested after being fully vaxxed & you still need to wear a mask after being vaxxed & you can still transmit the virus after being fully vaxxed & you still can be hospitalised after being fully vaxxed & you are now looking at a 4th jab on the horizon........ It's probably time you admit to yourself that you have been FULLY conned they have certainly fallen a long way down from the dizzy heights of 96% safe & effective that’s for sure. What benefit (if any) do they really provide over and above a functioning immune system ? What are the risks to our health with taking regular boosters ? Let’s not forget, these vaccines were fast tracked through and are only approved for Emergency Use Only. we don’t have any long term data so we don’t know what the long term risks could be - for me too many unknowns just now and they were oversold to the public. " Some people informed themselves from the evidence instead | |||
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"Stop being so soft and submissive, you ain’t protecting anyone by conforming and giving the government more power to fuck you. People are so deluded and blind to see what’s going on that there prepared to inject multiple experimental vaccines into their bodies to feel safe from the made up fear. It took over 50years to develop a flu vaccine that’s only 70% successful and yet you trust them to create a vaccine with 18months that works? You know our government removed the right to sue and prosecute these vaccine manufactures if you develop or die from a side effect? People dropping dead from Jabs left right and centre, don’t expect the little black box in the corner of your living room to report those statistics. Your handing your freedoms over and demanding us that don’t want to, to the do the same for the sake of your own safety. It’s only matter of time but there rounding the unvaccinated onto trains like they did in Germany with the dissidents, yet people don’t see it coming " | |||
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"The vaccine is safe lol, explain that to the over 100 professional athletes that have had to retire because of health issues over the last 12month. People fit as a fiddle dropping dead or I’ll within days of being jabbed. Oh Yh you didn’t see it on your telly or the BBC didn’t inform you so it can’t be true It's not on any other reputable sites. Hmm, is every single reputable news outlet in the world cooperating? That's quite a feat in our time of leaks!" To me, the idea that all the media and government can cooperate sufficiently to hide a conspiracy - that's less believable than all this genocide malarkey. | |||
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"Lol there are mass protest wordwide, we’re talking 100,000+ crowds with anti lockdown and vaccine picket signs, how many of you have seen these reported on your news? Very few I bet. You wanna stop covid, turn your tv off and carry on with your life as normal. Stop conforming. If people wasn’t wearing mask and the tv wasn’t telling you your in the midst of a deadly pandemic, you wouldn’t have a clue. In my opinion this just a double edged scam. One side to see how much of the worlds population are submissive idiots oblivious of the well know n conspiracy of the “new world order” and the other side it’s a massive distraction from the peadophile network of billionaires who rule the world. Nearly every media and news outlet in the world are owned by only 6 companies. You start reporting shit they don’t won’t you to, you’ll find yourself jobless or dead quite quickly. " Cool story bro. | |||
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"Haha laugh it up while you can, you’ll be crying in a couples years becuase you wasn’t paying attention. Bill gates who funded most of the vaccine went to Jeffery Epstein’s island over 10times…. Like many other very powerful men. Most people are obvious of wtf is going on. There to busy prioritised with the next trend or episode of ima celeb get me out of here. " I ask again, what is going on and what are the world's elite trying to achieve by purposely fucking up the world's economy through a 'fake pandemic'? | |||
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"Simply put they want a one world government. No sovereign countries, all run from one central power that they control. It’s been the plan for over a 100years. Freemasonry has been their main tool at achieving their goals, they’ve never been so close at making it happen and most people are just going along with it. It’s the kind of topic every person in the world should be aware of and make themselves aware of and it’s not something anyones gonna convince you of. Hence the importance of looking for yourself." Power to the people | |||
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"Simply put they want a one world government. No sovereign countries, all run from one central power that they control. It’s been the plan for over a 100years. Freemasonry has been their main tool at achieving their goals, they’ve never been so close at making it happen and most people are just going along with it. It’s the kind of topic every person in the world should be aware of and make themselves aware of and it’s not something anyones gonna convince you of. Hence the importance of looking for yourself." Sounds awesome. If I have my fifth jab in March, will I accelerate the rightful reign of our glorious overlords? I promise to have number five in June. I want to help | |||
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"Haha lol you do you lovely. If it helps you sleep at night and makes you feel all good inside good for you. I’m confident you’ll have many many regrets when the Veils lifted and the curtains drawn " ok I've followed the evidence and done what I can to help those around me. If I'm wrong, I made the best choices I could under the circumstances in accordance with my values. (I am due for vax five in March) | |||
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"Well you know, if you can still contract covid and tansmit covid after two jabs and two booster and it doesn’t register in your mind they don’t work, you’ve got slight issue with common sense. if you think having multiple doses of a vaccine they developed within 18months is gonna do your body or immune system any good your taking massive risks with your life. I’m only trying to help people by being the nutty bad guy with crazy theories. Not enough people ask questions to many nodding dogs. They’ve been subtle telling everyone there are to many of us and it’s causing global warming and then you think the same people want a healthy world population of go on 8billion people " I'm aware of the difference between sterilising and non sterilising vaccines, but thank you. I have done my own research, and I am happy with my conclusions. The fact that you disagree with me is neither here nor there. In the meantime I look forward to welcoming our reptilian overlords | |||
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"Well you know, if you can still contract covid and tansmit covid after two jabs and two booster and it doesn’t register in your mind they don’t work, you’ve got slight issue with common sense. if you think having multiple doses of a vaccine they developed within 18months is gonna do your body or immune system any good your taking massive risks with your life. I’m only trying to help people by being the nutty bad guy with crazy theories. Not enough people ask questions to many nodding dogs. They’ve been subtle telling everyone there are to many of us and it’s causing global warming and then you think the same people want a healthy world population of go on 8billion people " Ahhhh so now its a plan to cull the excess population, who do you think these governments would rather kill off, the compliant vaccine takers or the conspiracy theorist zealots and idiots? I think youve been outsmarted by the governments ... Plan to remove population ... release deadly pathogen ... release vaccine ... those with a sense of society and common sense take vaccine ... trouble causers and fools die off ... problem solved. | |||
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"We'll take as many boosters as needed to help keep ourselves, those we love and those around us as protected as possible. We still wear our masks, social distance as much as possible and wash our hands thoroughly. I find it hard to see why anyone wouldn't mitigate risk as much as is practicable. Winston Do you wear a mask and social distance at meets? I refuse to meet at the moment with infection rates climbing. Does that worry you?" We're not meeting at the moment, not even seeing each other. The rates climbing is a worry, which is why we're mitigating as much as practicable. Winston | |||
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"We'll take as many boosters as needed to help keep ourselves, those we love and those around us as protected as possible. We still wear our masks, social distance as much as possible and wash our hands thoroughly. I find it hard to see why anyone wouldn't mitigate risk as much as is practicable. Winston Do you wear a mask and social distance at meets? I refuse to meet at the moment with infection rates climbing. Does that worry you? We're not meeting at the moment, not even seeing each other. The rates climbing is a worry, which is why we're mitigating as much as practicable. Winston" Ah sorry, I made an assumption due to your recent veri’s. | |||
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"Well you know, if you can still contract covid and tansmit covid after two jabs and two booster and it doesn’t register in your mind they don’t work, you’ve got slight issue with common sense. if you think having multiple doses of a vaccine they developed within 18months is gonna do your body or immune system any good your taking massive risks with your life. I’m only trying to help people by being the nutty bad guy with crazy theories. Not enough people ask questions to many nodding dogs. They’ve been subtle telling everyone there are to many of us and it’s causing global warming and then you think the same people want a healthy world population of go on 8billion people " Looking at the number of cases, deaths, hospitalisation and ICU occupance before vaccination and after vaccination "kind of" suggests the vaccines are working. Your observation "kind of" suggests you don't understand how vaccines work. Not just this one, any of them. Winston | |||
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"I've had family deaths, like many thousands of others, so any trivialising of the sound science that can help to prevent others suffering similarly, is out of order. The vaccines are safe, quickly cleared from the body and provide great levels of natural protection. 100% safe? No. Just like going for a walk or having a shower." Even sex has risks. | |||
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"Well you know, if you can still contract covid and tansmit covid after two jabs and two booster and it doesn’t register in your mind they don’t work, you’ve got slight issue with common sense. if you think having multiple doses of a vaccine they developed within 18months is gonna do your body or immune system any good your taking massive risks with your life. I’m only trying to help people by being the nutty bad guy with crazy theories. Not enough people ask questions to many nodding dogs. They’ve been subtle telling everyone there are to many of us and it’s causing global warming and then you think the same people want a healthy world population of go on 8billion people Ahhhh so now its a plan to cull the excess population, who do you think these governments would rather kill off, the compliant vaccine takers or the conspiracy theorist zealots and idiots? I think youve been outsmarted by the governments ... Plan to remove population ... release deadly pathogen ... release vaccine ... those with a sense of society and common sense take vaccine ... trouble causers and fools die off ... problem solved. " For the record I don’t believe in reptilian overlords lol, I’m more into angels and demons, malevolent spirits, that kind of shit. Your savvy conspiracy theorist stereotype won’t work here nor do I believe the vaccine has anything to do with sterilisation. I can’t see it being good for you but I think it’s more of a power play. Your watching them navigate through your freedoms and write legislation that pretty much gives them dictator like powers under the smoke and mirrors of a fake public health crisis. As for the quoted comment I like your thinking. The thought has crossed my mind about all this being just a ploy to dwindle out all the red herrings and red flags like myself who won’t bow down to them. I don’t believe They would release a deadly pathogen whether they had a vaccine or not, to risky and uncontrollable. These people love complete control and trust me isn’t not me that’s only me that’s been outsmarted. If there gonna cull the population which they will try it will be more than likely all of us who haven’t tasted communism and will fight for true democracy, not this fake this we have currently. | |||
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