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By *igNick1381 OP Man over a year ago

BRIDGEND

As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Here we go, resorting to bribery and goal post moving already.

Despite the actual severity of this new variant not even being established yet

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

And yet there was someone on here a few days back telly the vaccinated that they were no longer fully vaccinated. Fairly typical of what’s happening , they read something, don’t understand it and then report it as a fact and spread it amongst the conspiracy theorists.

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By *kywalker22Man over a year ago

Ambleside

Three jabs in and still not ruling out lockdown for Xmas. Anyone had enough yet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Here we go, resorting to bribery and goal post moving already.

Despite the actual severity of this new variant not even being established yet "

Already

Is this something you’ve only just noticed. Lol. Funny old world.

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By *lan157Man over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are you sure they weren't telling people who haven't had the booster that they weren't fully vaccinated because that's all over the news that 2 jabs aren't enough to cover you for Omicron and you need the booster to be 75% covered. That's why there is now this mad rush to get the population boosted before the end of the year

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date "

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

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By *tstillworksMan over a year ago

Darlington

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date "

Bearing in mind it’s updated four times a year

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By *hilloutMan over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

Fully vaccinated in a COVID context will likely mean being updated with your "regular" booster as it's becoming increasingly apparent. A grace period might be given to be up to date after which if you've declined your top up, your "privileges" will expire and you're as good, or bad, as an unvaxxed heathen.

Welcome to a brave new world ...

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

"Three jabs in and still not ruling out lockdown for Xmas. Anyone had enough yet?"

Yes everyone has had enough but the alternative is to accept a higher death toll or choose the fictional reality in which some people wrongly believe they live in

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By *lan157Man over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

Because that description does not fit the current covid vacination which is not providing 100 percent cover. I don't know of a different word that describes the current covid vacination we are all having to protect ourselves from serious illness or death.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

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By *dysseusukMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Your name should be Wibble - wibble, wibble, wibble-wibble, London, a small village on Mars, just outside Wibble. My old man's a mushroom

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

Sajid Javid confirms that even if you're double jabbed, you'll be considered unvaccinated by the end of next month.

Keep complying.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

WEF Forum, spoiler alerts but let's stick with tin hats for our safety

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Strangely enough, when something new starts, monumental volumes are learned about it, especially when it has huge significance to the world and its citizens.

Of course our understanding and expectations change on a progressive basis. Square wheels became obsolete with the progress to rounder ones.

Many vaccines were devoloped onto the technologies and expertise that we had. The virus was new and we had to learn fast. We did. And to everyone's advantage.

The vaccines have given freedom to all. We can only be grateful for such amazing, positive results.

As things progress, we can learn morw, especially if you screen out the unqualified snake oil sellers peddling BS

If they haven't had research published that's peer reviewed and relevant to this in the last year, skip past them.

Vaccines are the saviours of our freedom and wellbeing as a society

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

These vaccines are vaccines.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Three jabs in and still not ruling out lockdown for Xmas. Anyone had enough yet?"

Yep. If we all wish really hard we can just pretend it's not really happening. Maybe if we ask santa for it to stop for Xmas?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Bearing in mind it’s updated four times a year "

Always updated by the government, changing the goalposts as usual

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing. "

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol

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By *I TwoCouple over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol"

No it's not, you're confused.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Strangely enough, when something new starts, monumental volumes are learned about it, especially when it has huge significance to the world and its citizens.

Of course our understanding and expectations change on a progressive basis. Square wheels became obsolete with the progress to rounder ones.

Many vaccines were devoloped onto the technologies and expertise that we had. The virus was new and we had to learn fast. We did. And to everyone's advantage.

The vaccines have given freedom to all. We can only be grateful for such amazing, positive results.

As things progress, we can learn morw, especially if you screen out the unqualified snake oil sellers peddling BS

If they haven't had research published that's peer reviewed and relevant to this in the last year, skip past them.

Vaccines are the saviours of our freedom and wellbeing as a society "

And if they're peer reviewed by those who push a narrative, then keep on believing it too

. Don't try go digging deeper.

The vaccine has become a religion!

Hail thee, oh mighty vaccine!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol

No it's not, you're confused."

Here is an example of complete denial

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sajid Javid confirms that even if you're double jabbed, you'll be considered unvaccinated by the end of next month.

Keep complying."

got my popcorn ready for all the comments to say this is not true and you are an anti vaxxer lol

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By *r and Miss MischiefCouple over a year ago

Midlands

There telling the un jabbed to get the jab because it works and the telling the jabbed to get the booster because the jab doesn’t work. All the while telling everyone that the unjabbed are putting the jabbed in danger by not getting a jab that didn’t protect some of the jabbed very well as some of the jabbed are still dying and being hospitalised like the unjabbed!

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"There telling the un jabbed to get the jab because it works and the telling the jabbed to get the booster because the jab doesn’t work. All the while telling everyone that the unjabbed are putting the jabbed in danger by not getting a jab that didn’t protect some of the jabbed very well as some of the jabbed are still dying and being hospitalised like the unjabbed! "

Nice use of the word jab...

In fairness its long overdue they recognised, admitted and communicated that the effectivity of the vaccines wanes over time. No point telling someone they are safe because they had a jab that works for a maximum of 6 months... 9 months ago. Its past its best before date.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

I don't think any vaccine in history,certainly none I know provides 100% cover. So I think best word to describe the current covid vaccines is vaccines since they are acting as vaccines.

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

I got dogs abuse for saying this about 10 days ago on my forum post…

“anti Vax this and that”…

“Won’t happen here just because they did it in Australia”

Some people actually saying it’s the correct thing to do, like sacking the NHS doctors and nurses that won’t take the vaccines, apparently that is also “a conspiracy” even tho it’s already been made law

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

I got dogs abuse for saying this about 10 days ago on my forum post…

“anti Vax this and that”…

“Won’t happen here just because they did it in Australia”

When was it made law , have you a link?

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

I got dogs abuse for saying this about 10 days ago on my forum post…

“anti Vax this and that”…

“Won’t happen here just because they did it in Australia”

When was it made law , have you a link?"

I do have a link

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-introduce-covid-19-vaccination-as-a-condition-of-deployment-for-all-frontline-health-and-social-care-workers

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

I got dogs abuse for saying this about 10 days ago on my forum post…

“anti Vax this and that”…

“Won’t happen here just because they did it in Australia”

When was it made law , have you a link?

I do have a link

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-introduce-covid-19-vaccination-as-a-condition-of-deployment-for-all-frontline-health-and-social-care-workers"

As I thought more misinformation, have you actually read it. There Is no law yet. You do this all the time please stop quoting things if they are not true.

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

Did you even read it? Lol

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

And just to be clear , you said for doctors and nurse. The only law passed as I understand it is for carers.

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"Did you even read it? Lol"
you really do have a poor understanding of things , please provide a link to the law for doctors and nurses.

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By *I TwoCouple over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Jabbed or jibberish ?

Either way it's utter bullshit

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

"Did you even read it? Lolyou really do have a poor understanding of things , please provide a link to the law for doctors and nurses."

Il speak to you in the spring buddy

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"Did you even read it? Lolyou really do have a poor understanding of things , please provide a link to the law for doctors and nurses.

Il speak to you in the spring buddy"

So you were wrong yet again, how many times is that now?

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By *andlingswingersCouple over a year ago

Woodbridge

The vaccines have given freedom to all. We can only be grateful for such amazing, positive result "

No, they haven't. That's the entire point. They were supposed to - and do - break the link between getting the virus and dying of it. You can still be ill and transmit Covid with the vaccine.

It's this "I'm immortal now" freedom to all Johnsonian BS that got us here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

So you have a problem with the OED; take it up with them.

Many vaccines (e.g. Tetanus, annual Flu jab, various vaccines required when you go abroad, etc.) have always required boosters, or had expiry dates. Nothing has changed in my lifetime.

Careful not to imply, or feed misinformation to those that do not understand science.

I hate needles and will avoid injections whenever possible. But I’m double-vaccinated plus booster last week. Do the same, get your vaccinations, wear your masks.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

The vaccines have given freedom to all. We can only be grateful for such amazing, positive result

No, they haven't. That's the entire point. They were supposed to - and do - break the link between getting the virus and dying of it. You can still be ill and transmit Covid with the vaccine.

It's this "I'm immortal now" freedom to all Johnsonian BS that got us here.

Exactly... That and the bullshit covid pass that has no merit but weirdly bought into by many countries.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When this vacine first appeared we were PROMISED have your two jabs and normal life can resume. Yet another lie now it looks like that want us to top up frequently for who knows how long. Sorry not doing it I had the two and that’s my lot. When I was about twelve had a BCG jab never had to have it again since as I work with tools I’ve had fair few cuts and had couple of tetanus jabs they last good few years. These new jabs only lasting few months so are they really any good.

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By *otswoldguy911Man over a year ago

gloucestershire

"Did you even read it? Lolyou really do have a poor understanding of things , please provide a link to the law for doctors and nurses.

Il speak to you in the spring buddy

So you were wrong yet again, how many times is that now?"

“Soon to be law” fixed it

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By *udewhennudeMan over a year ago

newport

"Did you even read it? Lolyou really do have a poor understanding of things , please provide a link to the law for doctors and nurses.

Il speak to you in the spring buddy

So you were wrong yet again, how many times is that now?

“Soon to be law” fixed it "

That’s better, I’m only asking you to check the facts, because you know this is how conspiracy theories start. Someone will read you post and then plaster it all over social media that it’s now law, because they read it on the internet.

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By *uliette500Woman over a year ago

Hull

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Do you realise this compensation procedure is the same for every single vaccine you have in the uk? It has been lime that for many years and is not just for the covid vaccines.

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By *ffanotdykeCouple over a year ago

Telford

I think the phrase "learning as we go along" sums up the situation.

However there are always people who will wish to lay blame on someone else if the current situation does not fit their pre-conceived ideas.

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Your name should be Wibble - wibble, wibble, wibble-wibble, London, a small village on Mars, just outside Wibble. My old man's a mushroom"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When this vacine first appeared we were PROMISED have your two jabs and normal life can resume. Yet another lie now it looks like that want us to top up frequently for who knows how long. Sorry not doing it I had the two and that’s my lot. When I was about twelve had a BCG jab never had to have it again since as I work with tools I’ve had fair few cuts and had couple of tetanus jabs they last good few years. These new jabs only lasting few months so are they really any good. "

I think there were plenty of tinfoil hats who warned it wouldn't be the end.

And I guarantee you, it's only the beginning.

The vaccine was promised to be the key to freedom, back to normality.

Conspiracy theorists would have told everyone that it is the lock. Sign up to the vaxx passport and you sign up for the social credit system

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Do you realise this compensation procedure is the same for every single vaccine you have in the uk? It has been lime that for many years and is not just for the covid vaccines. "

That's exactly my point

But the Covid "vaccine" doesn't do what traditional vaccines do - stop you getting the virus AND stop transmission of the virus.

BUT pharmaceutical companies wouldn't have gotten liability indemnity if this magical "vaccine" were branded as the experimental biological agent that it is.

Get the drift

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the phrase "learning as we go along" sums up the situation.

However there are always people who will wish to lay blame on someone else if the current situation does not fit their pre-conceived ideas. "

Unfortunately the mainstreamers are taking a long time to learn what us tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists have managed to suss

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By *otley cruedCouple over a year ago

sheffield

No jabs and we are still both breathing 2 years on !! The big man has already said the first 2 do absolutely nothing now ? So if we want to start do we just jump to the booster ? Plus if you’ve only had 2 without the booster your no longer fully vaccinated ? It’s all a load of shit !!

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By *lacklegendMan over a year ago

Weston super Mare

When you realise that it contains aborted foetal DNA, ethylene oxide, Graphene Oxide, bovine cells, etc, maybe as a critical thinker, you might start to reclassify it as a bio-weapon, designed to cause blood clotting and damage to the heart and arteries.

In this case, Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is the very height of stupidity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Experimental??

This vaccine has gone through every test that every normal vaccine goes through the difference is it had tones of money behind it

Have you kids ? Look I’m not coming at you just having a conversation?

Would you not bring your child for there 3 jabs in case of adverse reaction ?Just curious

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By *orty-coupleCouple over a year ago

Leyland

"No jabs and we are still both breathing 2 years on !! The big man has already said the first 2 do absolutely nothing now ? So if we want to start do we just jump to the booster ? Plus if you’ve only had 2 without the booster your no longer fully vaccinated ? It’s all a load of shit !!

Unvaxed here, both had covid, both still here and breathing. I can't and won't subscribe to this bullshit we keep getting fed.

It's totally insane.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When you realise that it contains aborted foetal DNA, ethylene oxide, Graphene Oxide, bovine cells, etc, maybe as a critical thinker, you might start to reclassify it as a bio-weapon, designed to cause blood clotting and damage to the heart and arteries.

In this case, Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is the very height of stupidity."

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

In this case, Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is the very height of stupidity."

I think your tinfoil hat is a little tight. You have obviously read a lot on Facebook. None of the current vaccines contain foetal DNA or bovine cells. They don't contain graphene oxide either and certainly not 99% as suggested on social media,if that was the case it wouldn't come out the syringe. No ethylene oxide in it either. It is used in some test kits to keep things sterile. You do know ethylene oxide derivatives are in everything make up shampoo, soap etc. You do know that covid infection is far more likely to cause blood clotting than any of the current vaccines. Ignorance is no excuse for blindly believing and repeating stuff you read on Facebook with no basis on reality or fact.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

People used to say it was nonsense to believe it came from a Wuhan lab.

I rarely hear people call it nonsense now.

Lots of things that are attacked as nonsense and conspiracies will one day be seen to be correct

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People used to say it was nonsense to believe it came from a Wuhan lab.

I rarely hear people call it nonsense now.

Lots of things that are attacked as nonsense and conspiracies will one day be seen to be correct"

Have to agree !!!!

That was getting momentum until trump started barking it then we all thought it was bullshit !!!

Not now the facts are there

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

"I think the phrase "learning as we go along" sums up the situation.

However there are always people who will wish to lay blame on someone else if the current situation does not fit their pre-conceived ideas.

Unfortunately the mainstreamers are taking a long time to learn what us tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists have managed to suss

Your idea that you have “sussed” anything is misplaced, indeed it shows you ability to suss is actually rather laughable. You have rather failed to suss the obvious gaping holes and lies at the heart of the conspiracy theorists narratives.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

"People used to say it was nonsense to believe it came from a Wuhan lab.

I rarely hear people call it nonsense now.

Lots of things that are attacked as nonsense and conspiracies will one day be seen to be correct

Have to agree !!!!

That was getting momentum until trump started barking it then we all thought it was bullshit !!!

Not now the facts are there "

Which facts are these?

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

In this case, Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is the very height of stupidity."

There is but one true sentence in that post, the last one, the irony is absolutely hilarious.

You think you are amongst the enlightened, yet nothing could be further from the truth.

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By *andy 1Couple over a year ago

northeast

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Your name should be Wibble - wibble, wibble, wibble-wibble, London, a small village on Mars, just outside Wibble. My old man's a mushroom"
I know your dad hes a fungi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Experimental??

This vaccine has gone through every test that every normal vaccine goes through the difference is it had tones of money behind it

Have you kids ? Look I’m not coming at you just having a conversation?

Would you not bring your child for there 3 jabs in case of adverse reaction ?Just curious "

Oh Lord

Another one who hasn't realized what it means to go through all stages of clinical trials AND wait for the very final collation of results and conclusions while trial participants are being monitored over a longer term.

Not that it matters, considering Pfizer, I believe, have in the meantime offered all trial participants who took the saline the "vaccine" meaning there's no control group anymore and what's an experiment without a control group?! Absolutely worthless.

These "vaccines" are still under emergency authorisation because all stages of clinical trial have not been completed.

And no, I'm not going to search for the link to prove myself. You can do it yourself.

And gone through "every test other vaccines have gone through" - if you trust these pharmaceutical companies to have done that, I feel sorry for you. I've heard plenty of whistleblowers who have clearly stated that is not the case. In fact I have heard plenty of experts who will tell you that even the animal trial stage shouldn't have taken place (if it allegedly did) because of the results from previous experiments with mRNA vaccines.

Over my dead body will my children be injected with this crap. They're not at risk. The risk of adverse reactions far outweighs the risk of Covid. And I won't be drawing you a picture of what I think every parent should be done with who gives permission for their child to be injected.

I'm not going to take this stuff either.

And just for the record, as I have pointed out in a similar post - I believe the reason you are taking a "vaccine", is to get your vaxx passport or digital ID which will feed into what will be the new up and coming social credit system. And I ain't going there full stop. I've explained that in a different post.

Trying to have a conversation or discussion to change my mind or those who hold my conviction is futile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:

Dictionaries are always out of date

Explain a vaccine/vaccination for me then

It's an experimental medical treatment

It is not a vaccine.

But if termed vaccine, the manufacturers, distributors and those administering it, are indemnified against liability by the government of the country purchasing the vaccine.

So if an adverse reaction is identified and sued for, the government, or you, the taxpayer, pays the damages rather than the manufacturer.

Now I'll go and put my tinfoil hat back on

Experimental??

This vaccine has gone through every test that every normal vaccine goes through the difference is it had tones of money behind it

Have you kids ? Look I’m not coming at you just having a conversation?

Would you not bring your child for there 3 jabs in case of adverse reaction ?Just curious

Oh Lord

These "vaccines" are still under emergency authorisation because all stages of clinical trial have not been completed.

And no, I'm not going to search for the link to prove myself. You can do it yourself.

I'm not going to take this stuff either.

Trying to have a conversation or discussion to change my mind or those who hold my conviction is futile

Yeah I was going to try then you said futile I was like I’m to tired for this shit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol"

Well said, so true

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Here we go, resorting to bribery and goal post moving already.

Despite the actual severity of this new variant not even being established yet "

To reliably establish the severity of the variant people need to die. It would appear that after 147,000 deaths to date BoJo is too chicken to crank up another few thousand to prove the severity before reacting.

What they are not reporting at this time is the significant increase in deaths of people without covid who die at home, in ambulances and on gurneys in hospital corridors because the ICU bed they would have occupied is being occupied by an unvaccinated covid patient.

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By *etcplCouple over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

"Here we go, resorting to bribery and goal post moving already.

Despite the actual severity of this new variant not even being established yet

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol

Well said, so true

And actually could mostly be addressed by improving the communications. If they just said... "look the effectivity of the vaccines doesn't last much more than 3 months and right now we need to keep everyones defences as high as possible because 40 per cent defence is better than 10 per cent defence and in conjunction with some mask wearing which is another 10 per cent and staying away from people a bit, which is another 20 per cent and working from home when we are ill, which is another 30 per cent... Well we can do a bit better, not have so many infections. Because infections are what lead to serious illness and hospitalisation in some cases." (numbers made up by the way).

But instead we've had the ridiculous narrative that a jab you had 12 months ago is still as effective and is your armour, when the numbers have very clearly been showing it isn't. Compounded by the covid pass which tells people they are "safe" to mingle when clearly they are not.

Lastly a little bit of honesty about the relative risks by age and other risk factor would be handy and help people make better decisions. Instead we have one tune to play only... Get a jab, get a jab, get another jab because the first two have stopped doing what we need. But by the way the unvaxxed are pure evil, those who have had one jab are almost as bad and those who have only had two are just a little bit naughty.

If they got the communications right it would take away a lot of the conflict.

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"People used to say it was nonsense to believe it came from a Wuhan lab.

I rarely hear people call it nonsense now.

Lots of things that are attacked as nonsense and conspiracies will one day be seen to be correct

Have to agree !!!!

That was getting momentum until trump started barking it then we all thought it was bullshit !!!

Not now the facts are there

Which facts are these?"

Sadly, when dealing with humanity, it does not matter what the facts are. It only matters what people believe the facts are.

For example, the world is full of religions and religious persons who follow them yet there is virtually no scientific evidence to support their beliefs. Yet they will die in a ditch, fingers in their ears going "la la la la" defending what they believe in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?"

Look up agenda 21 and agenda 30 all in there for everyone to read.

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?"

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

There was a huge opposition to seat belts when they first became law. They do not stop accidents but do give you a far better chance of surviving. Now they are accepted and no one complains any more that they are a restriction on freedom of choice and civil liberties. Sometimes Governments have to do what is good for the nation as a whole even if some do not want it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945."

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"As per the BBC

Definition of 'fully vaccinated' will be kept under review - No 10

No 10 has said it will keep under review the definition of the term "fully vaccinated" with regards to a Covid pass.

I'm sure there were people saying that no such thing would happen

Covid pass... Telling people they are safe when they aren't.... Bizarre how it's even allowed to be a thing.

hahah yes.

The government has a massive dilema....

They need to convince the unvaccinated that the jabs work in order for them to get their first 2 doses,

Whilst at the same time convince the vaccinated (loose term at the moment) that they don't work in order to get their boosters.

Madness lol

Well said, so true

If they got the communications right it would take away a lot of the conflict. "

Once again you come in here spouting common sense! I mean jeez who do you think you are and where do you think you are???

Spot on re the Comms!

FFS it actually isn’t that hard but this shower can’t possibly admit to “mistakes”...

1. We originally hope the efficacy of the vaccines would stay higher for longer. Unfortunately that is not the case.

2. We therefore need to roll out boosters sooner than originally planned to take account of the new variant as this appears to also reduce effectiveness of the vaccines.

3. Etc

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

I dislike the seatbelt analogy. It is overused and collapses under scrutiny when talking about being mandatory because a seatbelt is an external temporary factor applied to your body. A vaccine is a permanent irreversible change added inside your body. They are actually not comparable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??"

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose "

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps? "

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

And I do wish us "conspiracy nutters" will have to eat our words, rather than the other way around - but should the day come where these vaccine passports turn to the digital ID in order to implement social credits, then I will tell everybody I warned - "I told you so since April 2020 - but you wouldn't listen, on your own head be it for watching on silently while the crazies fought for you and your children's freedom". Because freedom is what Covid is about.

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By *otMe66Man over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

Did you also smash up your phone when the 5g masts were being pulled down by mobs? How do you choose where to find information on a subject such as covid?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

Did you also smash up your phone when the 5g masts were being pulled down by mobs? How do you choose where to find information on a subject such as covid?"

I generally don't condone violence unless it is to protect myself in self defense.

5G, do viruses exist, did a man land on the moon, is history of the second world war reported accurately, is deep state a thing, what about Freemasons, the Illuminati, lizard people - nowt to do with the direct impact a digital ID, one digital currency from one Central Bank, carbon credits and social credits will have on the free movement of a nation's people.

5G maybe, as it's needed to implement the technology.

As for choosing information sources, those experts who warned early on are a good starting point

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By *otMe66Man over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

Did you also smash up your phone when the 5g masts were being pulled down by mobs? How do you choose where to find information on a subject such as covid?

I generally don't condone violence unless it is to protect myself in self defense.

5G maybe, as it's needed to implement the technology.

As for choosing information sources, those experts who warned early on are a good starting point

What experts, who are they?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

Did you also smash up your phone when the 5g masts were being pulled down by mobs? How do you choose where to find information on a subject such as covid?

I generally don't condone violence unless it is to protect myself in self defense.

5G maybe, as it's needed to implement the technology.

As for choosing information sources, those experts who warned early on are a good starting point

What experts, who are they? "

I don't know what names, links and websites I'm permitted to post and I ain't risking it. I'm sure you'll find name drops here and there.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

Do a hitler ???

I hope you don’t mean what I think you mean ?

Grow ridiculous mustaches??

I'd love to be able to grow a moustache

Instead I can cut out a yellow star instead

So your arts and craft game is on point

definitely a bonus I suppose

New Skills learned during lockdown perhaps?

Maybe but I’m gracefully walking away from this one !

I haven't got an artistic bone in my body nor do I handle scissors gracefully but hey - one makes do

And I'd say, in years to come, nobody will have walked away from this one gracefully or unscathed - nobody has already.

Did you also smash up your phone when the 5g masts were being pulled down by mobs? How do you choose where to find information on a subject such as covid?

I generally don't condone violence unless it is to protect myself in self defense.

5G maybe, as it's needed to implement the technology.

As for choosing information sources, those experts who warned early on are a good starting point

What experts, who are they? "

Read more widely and you'll find them

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By *hagTonightMan over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I can see why it is under review, they dont know it themselves, cos if one miss their booster they are classed as an unvaccinated person. I wonder how a person who takes it feels about it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is this post meant to be a “told ya so” type of thing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m at odds with the term ‘ Vaccine/Vaccinated’myself

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary

a substance used to stimulate the production

of antibodies and provide immunity against

one or several diseases, prepared from the

causative agent of a disease, its products, or

a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an

antigen without inducing the disease:"

This description is exactly what we’ve been receiving

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945."

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Hitler's worst crime was exterminating the jews. I do wonder sometimes if some who now cry "Freedom, freedom, FREEDOM!!!" want that for themselves at the expense of the death of the old and vulnerable.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Surely the other way around.

Most of we sceptics were arguing from Day One that there should be shielding and support for the vulnerable while the rest of us got on with our lives.

I think that argument should now be resurrected

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

You are very welcome. May I suggest Disney + as an alternative for educational purposes?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I can see why it is under review, they dont know it themselves, cos if one miss their booster they are classed as an unvaccinated person. I wonder how a person who takes it feels about it?"

As someone whose first two Covid doses don't count for stupid administrative reasons - I'm on jab three and it only counts as jab one.

It only bothers me because those vaccines would be better off given to someone else.

I probably won't be officially fully vaccinated until my actual jab five. *shrug*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

You are very welcome. May I suggest Disney + as an alternative for educational purposes?

No one ever gained wisdom by studying material that only reinforced their own predetermined ideas?

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By *irldnCouple over a year ago

Brighton

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

However, after he gained full control, the German people as a whole (with some exceptions) were complicit by too often turning a blind eye to what was happening and the slow steady erosion of rights enacted by the Nazis.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

And how do you think he managed to exterminate Jews - there's an interesting article on the ncbi, if you look up Evelyn Shuster and Naomi Baumslag.

I quote from the article:

"Jews were labeled disease carriers and a public health risk to justify the creation of ghettos. Containing typhus epidemics provided a rationale for quarantine, ghettoization, and “delousing baths” or “disinfection.”"

And

"But ghettoization, of course, fueled rather than contained the epidemic, and this, in turn, reinforced the “prevention” strategy, i.e. disinfection. German and Austrian doctors favored overcrowded and unsanitary conditions to permit the epidemic to flourish, killing as many people as possible."

And you don't think that people like myself will fear this will happen to us?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

And how do you think he managed to exterminate Jews - there's an interesting article on the ncbi, if you look up Evelyn Shuster and Naomi Baumslag.

I quote from the article:

And

And you don't think that people like myself will fear this will happen to us?!"

Considering that the likes of the Red Cross (as indicated in the article) was complicit, amongst many doctors and nurses who stayed silent?!

We know what happened to them afterwards, don't we?

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

Exactly

My point was not to inform about Hitler's rise to power. That was introduced by another poster.

My point was are those declaring they want freedom from vaccination, masks, social distancing, lockdown, working from home, freedom to travel etc etc happy to accept that the price of their freedom will be paid for by the death of others and possibly their own family members.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

And how do you think he managed to exterminate Jews - there's an interesting article on the ncbi, if you look up Evelyn Shuster and Naomi Baumslag.

I quote from the article:

And

And you don't think that people like myself will fear this will happen to us?!

Considering that the likes of the Red Cross (as indicated in the article) was complicit, amongst many doctors and nurses who stayed silent?!

We know what happened to them afterwards, don't we?"

And then look at the Yellow Note and VAERS reporting system for adverse reactions and deaths to our magical "vaccines" and how it is treated not only by the general public but by the medical experts and those who regulate it!

Are these occurrences actively investigated? Where is the information published on that? Not that it's worth squat, when it comes from a government agency or a body which is funded by the government! Where's the impartiality there, hey?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

Exactly

My point was not to inform about Hitler's rise to power. That was introduced by another poster.

Not if the f**king information how to successfully treat this disease is put out there by the powers that be - and these treatments are out there and they have been kept from the public.

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By *iman2100Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

Exactly

My point was not to inform about Hitler's rise to power. That was introduced by another poster.

Not if the f**king information how to successfully treat this disease is put out there by the powers that be - and these treatments are out there and they have been kept from the public."

There are 1.4 million people employed by the NHS alone. Do you honestly believe that not one of them who knows there is a "cure" for covid-19 is prepared to whistleblow?

If BoJo's Conservatives presided over Britain being the first country to eradicate Covid-19 they would be greeted by so much ballot box love they would be in power for decades. What possible reason would they have not to cure people?

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?"

The end goal of who? The end goal of Boris is re-election, anyone who believes there is any more to it than that really doesn’t have the slightest idea how this country operates.

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By *ob198XaMan over a year ago

teleford

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

You are very welcome. May I suggest Disney + as an alternative for educational purposes?

Might be too advanced that, Disney Junior would be a more appropriate watch for many

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

You are very welcome. May I suggest Disney + as an alternative for educational purposes?

No one ever gained wisdom by studying material that only reinforced their own predetermined ideas?

Wise words indeed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whats the end goal do you think?

Keep us having boosters on a yearly basis to keep us all compliant?

Restrict civil liberties across the globe creating a have and have not society?

Do you wear a seat belt when you drive?

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

You are very welcome. May I suggest Disney + as an alternative for educational purposes?

No one ever gained wisdom by studying material that only reinforced their own predetermined ideas?

Wise words indeed. "

Thank you and I enjoy your posts and I'm sorry for your loss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Sometimes Governments have to do what is good for the nation as a whole even if some do not want it.

And sometimes governments do a Hitler

, like Germany from 1933 - 1945.

The majority of German people supported Hitler as he was democratically elected. So he was not forcing the majority to go to war.

Wow, you've summarised the Rise of Adolf Hitler in three sentences.

No need to watch the Hitler channel now you've unpacked it all.

Except he got it wrong. Hitler was not voted into power by a majority of Germans. The whole rise to power of the Nazis is a bit more complex than that (and fascinating).

Exactly

My point was not to inform about Hitler's rise to power. That was introduced by another poster.

Not if the f**king information how to successfully treat this disease is put out there by the powers that be - and these treatments are out there and they have been kept from the public.

There are 1.4 million people employed by the NHS alone. Do you honestly believe that not one of them who knows there is a "cure" for covid-19 is prepared to whistleblow?

The point I'm making is, there are whistleblowers - being silenced! You don't want to hear it, so you don't dig deeper. Then there are those who are terrified of the consequences to their livelihoods and reputations - sound familiar?

I can guarantee you that every person on this platform has at least one conspiracy theorist friend or family member!!! Have you listened to them? Have you looked at the information they have access to? (And I'm not saying that some of this information isn't bullshit either, right!).

No, you blow them off as tinfoil hat wearers because the information they give you isn't "peer reviewed" and comes from sources who and which are discredited by "mainstreamers".

Principles of Science: you must always verify emperically when you do an intervention that the intervention in the real world has had the required effect.

If for a hypothesis there is negative evidence that comes out against it, the hypothesis is dead. One piece of negative evidence destroys the hypothesis - asymmetry of truth: you can have umpteen pieces of evidence to support a truth but having one negative finishes that hypothesis off.

There are plenty of papers published on lockdowns being ineffective, masks being ineffective (even harmful), and plenty of adverse reactions reported to the jabs yet they're still being advocated and implemented by our various governments.

You are not hearing us, you do not want to hear us because the truth is terrifying!!! And the media makes a lot of successful noise to blank the likes of us out!

And I didn't say that there is a cure but there are effective treatments.

The PCR test cannot distinguish between live, virulent virus and dead matter left behind. It is not a diagnostic tool.

Asymptomatic Covid is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.

The people are perpetuating the situation we are in by not asking the right questions and acting to what I believe most people's core values would be.

You have been reduced to living 1930s Germany in the 21st century.

This is only the beginning.

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By *eglover62TV/TS over a year ago

Ayr

Can’t believe we are all following like sheep. Get your booster though it’s not as effective on this variant. Oh and don’t tell anyone Omicron is actually much less likely to cause you any harm. But hey, keep believing what you are told to believe. No one read what the doctor who first discovered this in South Africa has said about Britain’s reaction.

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere

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By *ondoner27Man over a year ago

london