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By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
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"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
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Nothing to do with the vaccine as it’s targeting the sars cov2 virus not the common cold it’s mainly down to the social distancing and lack of contact
However we’re both recovering from the mega cold having tested neg for Covid and resulting in G having pneumonia so not much better than Covid
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By *I Two OP Couple
over a year ago
PDI 12-26th Nov 24 |
"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
Nothing to do with the vaccine as it’s targeting the sars cov2 virus not the common cold it’s mainly down to the social distancing and lack of contact
However we’re both recovering from the mega cold having tested neg for Covid and resulting in G having pneumonia so not much better than Covid
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over a year ago
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"The cold and flu infection levels were reduced by the restrictions for Covid. "
Can you provide a reliable source for that being so please. Considering these illnesses are of the same flock let’s say it makes no logic to say people were getting ill with covid but not flu and colds as by the nature of them all being respiratory illnesses they would be passed in the same way. Ta  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality? "
For me it was like a very heavy cold, blocked sinuses, chest infection, streaming nose and extreme tiredness. Hopefully it won't stop normality  |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality? "
Google says the super cold arrives on an harley with flames shooting out the exhaust, and the mega cold arrives riding the back of a mechanical two headed shark with flames shooting out the exhaust. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Google says the super cold arrives on an harley with flames shooting out the exhaust, and the mega cold arrives riding the back of a mechanical two headed shark with flames shooting out the exhaust."
Oh mine was definitely the super cold then  |
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"The cold and flu infection levels were reduced by the restrictions for Covid.
Can you provide a reliable source for that being so please. Considering these illnesses are of the same flock let’s say it makes no logic to say people were getting ill with covid but not flu and colds as by the nature of them all being respiratory illnesses they would be passed in the same way. Ta "
It makes plenty of logic! The r0 of flu is barely above 1 (average is 1.28 from what I have read). The r0 of alpha was about 3 and the r0 of delta 5-6.
Apologies if you already know this but when the r0 is below 1 number of people infected reduces. Above 1 it starts to increase.
If restrictions are put in place for alpha with r0 of 3 then the number of people an infected person passes the virus on to decreases. What we saw is tht the case numbers dropped so the r0 must have been below 1. Therefore, r0 reduced by at least 3x....
Lets go back to flu with an average r0 of 1.28.
If an infected person passes on to 1.28 people but then restrictions reduce by 3x then they'll actually pass onto 0.43 people. Magic! Below 1. Therefore the flu virus can't get established.
As for reliable sources, probably can't get more reliable than Harvard School of Public Health. It beats Karen from Facebook or the conspiracy sites...
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/a-sharp-drop-in-flu-cases-during-covid-19-pandemic/
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Or just maybe there wasn't any reduction in colds or flu? Most of you probably had one but was asymptomatic and didn't know you had flu or cold. Just saying lol. now do you see how daft asymptomatic thing is. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality? "
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Both had the 'super' cold..didn't feel very super at the time!
Same here, it was worse than COVID, nearly broke a rib with all the coughing  "
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns? "
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook "
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds. |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds. "
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent. |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent. "
People were able to go out and get vitamin D, exercise and human contact during lockdowns. But that’s not to say they did. The added stress and fear of the virus/rule breaking meant many people literally just sat at home and done nothing.
And as for a couple of lockdowns not having a detrimental effect why is there such a push for the flu jab this year? It’s been well publicised that last winter’s lockdown and lack of flu outbreaks could result in a much worse scenario this winter. |
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By *ik MMan
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent. "
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent.
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
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https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems#:~:text=Coming%20into%20contact%20with%20germs,as%20needed%2C%20in%20the%20future.
An article from MIT to have a read of regarding the effects of isolation the the bodies ability to mount an immune response |
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By *ik MMan
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent.
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems#:~:text=Coming%20into%20contact%20with%20germs,as%20needed%2C%20in%20the%20future.
An article from MIT to have a read of regarding the effects of isolation the the bodies ability to mount an immune response "
I don’t care what your cherry picked article says - poor mental health leads to poor physical health |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent.
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems#:~:text=Coming%20into%20contact%20with%20germs,as%20needed%2C%20in%20the%20future.
An article from MIT to have a read of regarding the effects of isolation the the bodies ability to mount an immune response "
You should have probably read that whole thing before posting the link. You wanted a “shred of evidence”. You just provided it. Give yourself a pat on the back
“The psychological effects of social isolation can affect your immune system. The culprits are loneliness and stress. Research shows that our anti-viral response is suppressed when we feel lonely. An analysis of 148 different studies involving more than 300,000 people found that people who were more socially connected were 50 percent less likely to die over a given period. One experiment even found that people with many social ties are less susceptible to the common cold.”
So yes, according to your article there lockdown and limiting social contact CAN make people more susceptible to cold. |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent.
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems#:~:text=Coming%20into%20contact%20with%20germs,as%20needed%2C%20in%20the%20future.
An article from MIT to have a read of regarding the effects of isolation the the bodies ability to mount an immune response
You should have probably read that whole thing before posting the link. You wanted a “shred of evidence”. You just provided it. Give yourself a pat on the back
“The psychological effects of social isolation can affect your immune system. The culprits are loneliness and stress. Research shows that our anti-viral response is suppressed when we feel lonely. An analysis of 148 different studies involving more than 300,000 people found that people who were more socially connected were 50 percent less likely to die over a given period. One experiment even found that people with many social ties are less susceptible to the common cold.”
So yes, according to your article there lockdown and limiting social contact CAN make people more susceptible to cold. "
Nice change of tac switching from the deficiencies of vitamins and contact with germs causing the drop in immune response to yes picking up on the mental health aspect but that isn't what we were discussing was it? And the mental health aspect would also change when the lockdown ended and you were all set free from your prisons, as someone that has suffered for years with mental health yes it can affect your body but can be dealt with, we all had the ability to stay in contact with people one way or another without the physical contact. |
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"Hmmmm? What actually is a mega cold and a super cold? Are these now going to be the latest things to stop normality?
Maybe it's just a regular cold but people's immune systems have been damaged by all the lockdowns?
I keep hearing this line being reeled off for wearing masks, being in lockdown and taking the vaccine but haven't seen a single shred of supporting evidence to back it up personally I think it is just more bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
I am aware of how the immune system works I just disagree with a couple of lockdowns having that much of a detrimental effect on it, you can stand in the garden and get vitamin d from sunlight or take a multivitamin and no one has been stopped from exercising so this only leaves human contact to make a difference and no one has been stopped from going to the shops for regular shopping items, I have been out to the local supermarket throughout the pandemic so human contact has still been a thing for most people to some extent.
Nonsense! So pre-pandemic I worked in an office with 500+ people, went out for lunch at least weekly, was regularly on the road with work, went on holiday every couple of months, saw my friends most weekends as well as my parents, and went to live sport and gigs amongst other things. At the height of lockdown I worked strictly from home, didn’t have a garden and saw nobody. But that’s ok, I had a weekly trip to the supermarket to be grateful for which compensated for the loss of everything else!
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems#:~:text=Coming%20into%20contact%20with%20germs,as%20needed%2C%20in%20the%20future.
An article from MIT to have a read of regarding the effects of isolation the the bodies ability to mount an immune response
You should have probably read that whole thing before posting the link. You wanted a “shred of evidence”. You just provided it. Give yourself a pat on the back
“The psychological effects of social isolation can affect your immune system. The culprits are loneliness and stress. Research shows that our anti-viral response is suppressed when we feel lonely. An analysis of 148 different studies involving more than 300,000 people found that people who were more socially connected were 50 percent less likely to die over a given period. One experiment even found that people with many social ties are less susceptible to the common cold.”
So yes, according to your article there lockdown and limiting social contact CAN make people more susceptible to cold.
Nice change of tac switching from the deficiencies of vitamins and contact with germs causing the drop in immune response to yes picking up on the mental health aspect but that isn't what we were discussing was it? And the mental health aspect would also change when the lockdown ended and you were all set free from your prisons, as someone that has suffered for years with mental health yes it can affect your body but can be dealt with, we all had the ability to stay in contact with people one way or another without the physical contact."
Did I mention contact with germs or contact with people? I think you’ll find I also mentioned stress and fear before you posted your article, so there’s your mental health reference too.
And as for referring to what was originally being discussed; another user claimed that immune systems have been damaged by lockdowns and you disagreed. You have since proved yourself wrong. Congratulations. |
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So I have been having a little think about this and a reread of the comments and ok no you didn't mention germs you did however mention contact with people as can be seen from your quote below where you clearly stated "human contact"
"If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds."
As for the mental health aspect and the effects of stress ect on the immune system
"The psychological effects of social isolation can affect your immune system. The culprits are loneliness and stress. Research shows that our anti-viral response is suppressed when we feel lonely. An analysis of 148 different studies involving more than 300,000 people found that people who were more socially connected were 50 percent less likely to die over a given period. One experiment even found that people with many social ties are less susceptible to the common cold.”
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The article also suggests working on staying in contact via different methods such as phone, video calling and the use of social media to help with the feelings of loneliness aswell as ways to strengthen your immune system with a healthy balanced diet and exercise which are all good plans and probably what a lot of people myself included did (not so much the healthy diet but hey ho).
Also although yes during stressful situations it would seem the case that your immune response can be somewhat suppressed (research has also shown certain stressors can increase the immune response in respect of wound healing ect https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361287/#!po=27.2575)
it is also logical that once the stressor has been removed ie lockdown ending and being allowed contact with friends and family members being allowed, the immune system of a healthy human would recover fairly quickly with no lasting effect on the immune systems ability to react to a virus or infection. So since lockdown was the stressor that caused the reduction in immune response and we have been out of lockdown for some time now its logical to assume most peoples immune response would have been back up to strength by now if they are fit and healthy, I myself as I said before have suffered from poor mental health for many years and have to say that personally my physical health has been better than ever since the first lockdown and I still haven't had a cold or sniffle this year (touch wood).
The other thing is does this mean that people that are vaccinated and follow the rules for masks ect can then claim that people that refuse to acknowledge covid, won't get vaccinated (not those that can't on medical grounds), refuse to wear masks or follow the guidelines are causing damage to their immune system due to the constant and still ongoing stress factors that these people are creating for them by dragging this pandemic out, or does it not work that way? |
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"So I have been having a little think about this and a reread of the comments and ok no you didn't mention germs you did however mention contact with people as can be seen from your quote below where you clearly stated "human contact"
If you google how the immune system works you’ll discover that it benefits from (among other things) human contact, regular exercise and vitamin D. It’s only reasonable to suggest that measures such as lockdowns will have a detrimental effect and leave some individuals more susceptible to things like colds.
As for the mental health aspect and the effects of stress ect on the immune system
The psychological effects of social isolation can affect your immune system. The culprits are loneliness and stress. Research shows that our anti-viral response is suppressed when we feel lonely. An analysis of 148 different studies involving more than 300,000 people found that people who were more socially connected were 50 percent less likely to die over a given period. One experiment even found that people with many social ties are less susceptible to the common cold.”
The article also suggests working on staying in contact via different methods such as phone, video calling and the use of social media to help with the feelings of loneliness aswell as ways to strengthen your immune system with a healthy balanced diet and exercise which are all good plans and probably what a lot of people myself included did (not so much the healthy diet but hey ho).
Also although yes during stressful situations it would seem the case that your immune response can be somewhat suppressed (research has also shown certain stressors can increase the immune response in respect of wound healing ect https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361287/#!po=27.2575)
it is also logical that once the stressor has been removed ie lockdown ending and being allowed contact with friends and family members being allowed, the immune system of a healthy human would recover fairly quickly with no lasting effect on the immune systems ability to react to a virus or infection. So since lockdown was the stressor that caused the reduction in immune response and we have been out of lockdown for some time now its logical to assume most peoples immune response would have been back up to strength by now if they are fit and healthy, I myself as I said before have suffered from poor mental health for many years and have to say that personally my physical health has been better than ever since the first lockdown and I still haven't had a cold or sniffle this year (touch wood).
The other thing is does this mean that people that are vaccinated and follow the rules for masks ect can then claim that people that refuse to acknowledge covid, won't get vaccinated (not those that can't on medical grounds), refuse to wear masks or follow the guidelines are causing damage to their immune system due to the constant and still ongoing stress factors that these people are creating for them by dragging this pandemic out, or does it not work that way?"
Hmm, you keep referring to the lifting of lockdowns as if it would be an instant recovery of compromised immune systems. Everyone is different and there has still been a significant amount of stress placed on the general public in many covid related forms (fear of the virus, continued effects of the virus, threat of further restrictions, inconsistent leaders etc).
However, your initial claim was that lockdown restrictions damaging immune systems was “bs that has been picked up floating around feckbook.”
As we have seen, even thanks to your own link, that it wasn’t bs at all and lockdowns do in fact damage immune systems. It seems like you have accepted this although you now appear to be switching your stance to attacking rule breakers which isn’t really relevant is it? |
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"That's because the cold no longer exists its all just a type of covid these days "
rubbish
I had this cold with a very strong cough a few, weeks ago. I tested negative for covid. So if it wasn't covid what the hell was it |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The cold and flu infection levels were reduced by the restrictions for Covid.
Can you provide a reliable source for that being so please. Considering these illnesses are of the same flock let’s say it makes no logic to say people were getting ill with covid but not flu and colds as by the nature of them all being respiratory illnesses they would be passed in the same way. Ta "
That is actually fairly easy to prove for flu… because the ONS provides figures for people admitted into hospital for flu and it was a lot lot lower than it was the year before, they put it down to more people taking the flu jab and much less interaction between people ( generally and wearing masks)
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"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
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I've had several colds, but then I work at a school.
I hate the term common cold though. The condition called "common cold" is actually any one of well over 200 different viruses from many virus types (including Rhinovirus, Coronavirus, Respiratory syncytial virus, Parainfluenza, etc...). Many cold causes are still classed a unknown. |
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"The cold and flu infection levels were reduced by the restrictions for Covid. "
if masks and distancing eliminated cold and flu, why didn't they also eliminate Covid?  |
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"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
Nothing to do with the vaccine as it’s targeting the sars cov2 virus not the common cold it’s mainly down to the social distancing and lack of contact
However we’re both recovering from the mega cold having tested neg for Covid and resulting in G having pneumonia so not much better than Covid
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“ The researchers say this suggests that T cell responses elicited or enhanced by the vaccines should be able to control the current SARS-CoV-2 variants without needing to be updated or modified. They also found that the same T cells may provide some protection from another member of the coronavirus family that is responsible for one type of the common cold” |
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"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
Nothing to do with the vaccine as it’s targeting the sars cov2 virus not the common cold it’s mainly down to the social distancing and lack of contact
However we’re both recovering from the mega cold having tested neg for Covid and resulting in G having pneumonia so not much better than Covid
M
Search: “john hopkins covid vaccine common cold”
“ The researchers say this suggests that T cell responses elicited or enhanced by the vaccines should be able to control the current SARS-CoV-2 variants without needing to be updated or modified. They also found that the same T cells may provide some protection from another member of the coronavirus family that is responsible for one type of the common cold”"
Yes one type of coronavirus but as the most common cause of common cold is a rhinovirus not much help |
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"We haven't had the cold since we were vaccinated, perhaps this is due to the Pfizer vaccine or maybe because of facemasks, socially distancing where possible and washing hands.
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Had 2 this Autumn so I would say your good fortune has no relationship to your vaccination and more to the latter |
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"The cold and flu infection levels were reduced by the restrictions for Covid.
if masks and distancing eliminated cold and flu, why didn't they also eliminate Covid? "
Because masks and distancing didn’t eliminate either colds or flu, just greatly suppressed them. The transmission route between germ factory children and vulnerable older people was vastly reduced. Children are, I believe, less of a driver of Covid spread or at least known variants to date, due at least in part to the way the virus spike protein bonds to cells. |
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