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I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it? |
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"I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it?" which conspiracy theories seem more feasible?
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I believe that Bill Gates is desperate to know what "everyone" in the world is doing ALL of the time, which is why they are embedding us with trackers.
It seems that Bill's brain is so advanced that he can know, understanding, and ultimately control all of our movements simultaneously.
His end game is world domination... of the home PC market with his latest version of Windows.
Cal |
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Well I'm glad to hear it's all a huge co-ordinated plan. I think you can find truth or lies in most thing if you look hard enough.
Yes, it definitely the lizard people and using a computer operating system and a vaccine programme to control the world |
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Well personally I think that the security of Europe and America has been compromised by the greed of politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.
But there is another plan at play, that I will not go into. Only time will tell if I am right. |
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Perhaps the plan was to let most of the public realise just how useless and incompetent their governments are. As for anyone having the incomprehensibly tough job to manage to plan and effect such a conspiracy, with leaders happy to show themselves at their worst, is beyond silly.
Focus attention on where it matters. It's not inane bollocks |
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People feel powerless and angry. I get it, me too.
But then they're lured in by charlatans trying to sell them something and a conspiracy - because it's cognitively more satisfying to have *someone* in charge than to have it all be chaos.
Same goes for Bigfoot, apocalypse, aliens, etc |
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The only "Big Plan" is that there is not a "Big Plan".
Because no governments in modern history have had to deal with a pandemic of this scale and nature before.
There is no "playbook", and the ones we do have are for outdated illnesses which are not covid. Similar in some circumstances, but not the same in others.
A bit like fielding a rugby team in a football match. They both play with balls (easy at the back), but there the similarity ends.
I'll repeat...the only "Big Plan" is that there isn't one and folks are just trying to muddle their way through as best they can, using a mixture of trial and error, with some informed decision-making here and there, and guesswork in other places. |
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"The only "Big Plan" is that there is not a "Big Plan".
Because no governments in modern history have had to deal with a pandemic of this scale and nature before.
There is no "playbook", and the ones we do have are for outdated illnesses which are not covid. Similar in some circumstances, but not the same in others.
A bit like fielding a rugby team in a football match. They both play with balls (easy at the back), but there the similarity ends.
I'll repeat...the only "Big Plan" is that there isn't one and folks are just trying to muddle their way through as best they can, using a mixture of trial and error, with some informed decision-making here and there, and guesswork in other places."
And some scoundrels are making money from people's anxiety by claiming that there's some big evil plan |
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Boris's plan is and I quote Melchett from Black Adder goes fourth
'If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through'... |
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"I'm not a anti vax conspiracy theroist. However I am able to think for myself and I can't help feeling that something is not right.
It because its a story that's you really couldn't make up."
What makes you say that? Spanish flu lasted for a few years. It mutated and became more dangerous before weakening? (same as Alpha, Delta, Omicron?!)
Rich people are taking advantage of the situation. Rich people have the tendancy to take advantage...
The media scaremonger because it sells papers / gives them clickbait.
Interestingly enough, plenty of conspiracy theorist have pointed out similarities to novels... |
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"Not so much a big plan … but if you give a government more control over your daily lives they will always take it with both hands "
I had 2 shots of a vaccine that was likely to prevent me from getting seriously ill with covid. It also reduced the chances of me passing it on.
I've work a mask.
How are they controlling me now other than some travel restrictions? |
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"While these lot can organise a piss up in Downing Street, they couldn’t in a brewery - but they can implement a co-ordinated global plan with intended consequences?"
This is the bit that really tickles me. They can't keep a Christmas do quiet, but they can cover up activities that apparently permeate across all countries of the world and involve, allegedly, pretty much all Heads of State, the majority of Hollywood etc. How is it all so hush-hush, yet the Conservative soirée cannot be hidden? |
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"While these lot can organise a piss up in Downing Street, they couldn’t in a brewery - but they can implement a co-ordinated global plan with intended consequences?
This is the bit that really tickles me. They can't keep a Christmas do quiet, but they can cover up activities that apparently permeate across all countries of the world and involve, allegedly, pretty much all Heads of State, the majority of Hollywood etc. How is it all so hush-hush, yet the Conservative soirée cannot be hidden? "
It's the same with all these global conspiracies, isn't it?
So incompetent that it's obvious to Joe in his basement (and they mess up everywhere else), so clever that almost everyone is blind to it.
*Shrug* |
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"While these lot can organise a piss up in Downing Street, they couldn’t in a brewery - but they can implement a co-ordinated global plan with intended consequences?
This is the bit that really tickles me. They can't keep a Christmas do quiet, but they can cover up activities that apparently permeate across all countries of the world and involve, allegedly, pretty much all Heads of State, the majority of Hollywood etc. How is it all so hush-hush, yet the Conservative soirée cannot be hidden?
It's the same with all these global conspiracies, isn't it?
So incompetent that it's obvious to Joe in his basement (and they mess up everywhere else), so clever that almost everyone is blind to it.
*Shrug*"
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"I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it?"
My theory, the big plan is mining the shit out of the moon and eventually Mars.
This virus could date back to 1969 when Von Braun warned NASA to quarantine the Apollo astronauts when they came back to Earth, because he new more about the moon. Apparently asked how he knew he looked to the sky, meaning extraterrestrials. Check the photos of them with Nixon outside the chamber they were in.
Fast forward to 2020 and Trump mentions in a speech he wished China would have informed about the virus earlier as the US (NASA) could have helped.
Also Boris uses the phrase Moon Shot when presenting news about the new vaccine. A phrase used when the Apollo mission took place.
China recently have been probing the moon with the Chang project, hitting the south pole and collecting debris back to lab in Wuhan. The debris containing the virus in a incubated state in frozen particles and rock debris.
Now was it purposely leaked or accidentally?
I say purposely. The wet market was a red herring. The reason to gain herd immunity to prevent scaring the public in the future when tons of the moon is shipped back to Earth with the moon bugs, causing a halt to mass scale mining. China, America, Japan and Russia want to mine the shit out of the Moon.
One final clue, what do you get when the Moon eclipses the Sun... a Corona. |
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Follow up to comment above.
Heres a quote from History Extra website.
Would going to the moon spell the end of life on earth? That sounds far-fetched today with the benefit of what we now know, but in 1969 the answer was “unlikely, but maybe”. The question revolved around whether the moon harboured exotic microbes. If astronauts unwittingly brought germs back, and humans had no immunity to them, the result could be a pandemic as devastating as bubonic plague in 14th-century Europe or smallpox in the Americas in the 16th century. “We can conceive of no more tragically ironic consequence of our search for extra-terrestrial life,” concluded space scientists. |
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I can help clear this up. I heard a rumour down the pub.
So... the lizard people have been trying to retospectively eliminate the flat Earth theory. See, the flat Earth theory is really true! A group of taxi drivers who were secretly aliens from Zargon-3 got wind the Earth really is flat.
Then the Zargons set out to buy up all the edges of the Earth. They figured they could use their super advanced theta-alsotron engines to tip the Earth over. And all the humans would fall off into space. Then the Earth would belong to the Zargons. An they could nick all our gravel. (They love gravel. Nobody knows why.)
The lizard people developed Covid as a virus to target the Zargons. To wipe out their memories, see? So they wouldn't know about the flat Earth any longer. But the virus mutated, becoming dangerous to humans. Then the lizard people whipped up the vaccines too.
So that's where we are. We're stuck in a struggle between the lizard people and the Zargons. An it's why some people aren't sure about the lizard-made vaccines. |
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"I believe that Bill Gates is desperate to know what "everyone" in the world is doing ALL of the time, which is why they are embedding us with trackers.
It seems that Bill's brain is so advanced that he can know, understanding, and ultimately control all of our movements simultaneously.
His end game is world domination... of the home PC market with his latest version of Windows.
Cal"
I'm gutted that Bill hasn't taken control of me yet: he seems like he'd make good choices for me (certainly better than the choices I make for myself).
D'you think Melinda might've got custody of me in the divorce?
Either that or maybe Bill is controlling me using Internet Explorer and I'm just waiting for it to catch up. Any day now, fingers crossed. |
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If its a choice between cock-up or conspiracy, I'd go for the former every time.
The only exception is when the government conspires to cover up the cock-up, and then make a cock-up of it. |
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"I believe that Bill Gates is desperate to know what "everyone" in the world is doing ALL of the time, which is why they are embedding us with trackers.
It seems that Bill's brain is so advanced that he can know, understanding, and ultimately control all of our movements simultaneously.
His end game is world domination... of the home PC market with his latest version of Windows.
Cal
I'm gutted that Bill hasn't taken control of me yet: he seems like he'd make good choices for me (certainly better than the choices I make for myself).
D'you think Melinda might've got custody of me in the divorce?
Either that or maybe Bill is controlling me using Internet Explorer and I'm just waiting for it to catch up. Any day now, fingers crossed."
Don't panic, you might just need to check your update settings... it's possible you're awaiting a reboot to finish the installation. The "right" choices are just an update away.
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The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over. |
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"I'm not a anti vax conspiracy theroist. However I am able to think for myself and I can't help feeling that something is not right.
It because its a story that's you really couldn't make up." This and would also add this quote "follow the money". |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over."
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years. |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years. "
So why did they close gyms while keeping fast food restaurants open? Why haven't they done more to promote healthy living and ways to boost your immune system etc, rather than just focusing solely on the vaccine? Lockdown restrictions have done far more long-term damage to health than COVID ever will.
Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are predicted to make combined pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year... |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years.
So why did they close gyms while keeping fast food restaurants open? Why haven't they done more to promote healthy living and ways to boost your immune system etc, rather than just focusing solely on the vaccine? Lockdown restrictions have done far more long-term damage to health than COVID ever will.
Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are predicted to make combined pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year..." because you don't need 20 people to run a gym. |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years.
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So why did they close gyms while keeping fast food restaurants open? Why haven't they done more to promote healthy living and ways to boost your immune system etc, rather than just focusing solely on the vaccine? Lockdown restrictions have done far more long-term damage to health than COVID ever will.
Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are predicted to make combined pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year..."
It has been painfully obvious that fit healthy people with generally great immune systems can still be struck down by the virus... just as some overweight, heavy smoking, 80 year olds have been able to brush off the virus with barely any symptoms.
The closing of gyms was obvious, with people grouped together in a humid, sweaty environment perfect for breeding germs... breathing heavily. To be fair you'd need to have a very low IQ to think that was the wrong thing to do.
Obviously, keeping "unhealthy" food choices open isn't the best thing to couple with closing the gyms, but they get loads of tax from takeaway food, and people object to being told what they could eat. With the fast food industry already geared up for drive-through and home delivery, they were always going to make a killing.
The government response was far from perfect, but that doesn't change the fact that they still need people to pay taxes.
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years.
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So why did they close gyms while keeping fast food restaurants open? Why haven't they done more to promote healthy living and ways to boost your immune system etc, rather than just focusing solely on the vaccine? Lockdown restrictions have done far more long-term damage to health than COVID ever will.
Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are predicted to make combined pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year...
It has been painfully obvious that fit healthy people with generally great immune systems can still be struck down by the virus... just as some overweight, heavy smoking, 80 year olds have been able to brush off the virus with barely any symptoms.
The closing of gyms was obvious, with people grouped together in a humid, sweaty environment perfect for breeding germs... breathing heavily. To be fair you'd need to have a very low IQ to think that was the wrong thing to do.
Obviously, keeping "unhealthy" food choices open isn't the best thing to couple with closing the gyms, but they get loads of tax from takeaway food, and people object to being told what they could eat. With the fast food industry already geared up for drive-through and home delivery, they were always going to make a killing.
The government response was far from perfect, but that doesn't change the fact that they still need people to pay taxes.
Cal"
Whilst not disagreeing completely with what people are saying about gyms. I caught covid from a gym, well partner caught it at a gym along with about a dozen other people then gave it to me. |
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It’s just 2 weeks to flatten the curve,
It’s just two jabs for a route to freedom,
It’s just vaccinating toddlers
It’s just a booster
It’s just 5 boosters
It’s just a Vaccine passport
It’s just for your health
It’s just a vaccine mandate
It’s just temporary
It’s just … forever ! |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years.
So why did they close gyms while keeping fast food restaurants open? Why haven't they done more to promote healthy living and ways to boost your immune system etc, rather than just focusing solely on the vaccine? Lockdown restrictions have done far more long-term damage to health than COVID ever will.
Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna are predicted to make combined pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year..."
Globally, $34 billion profit is peanuts, |
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"It's the frogs - a credible source on the dark Web says it's a plan by a super breed of frogs to achieve world domination "
Call Dangermouse sounds like Baron Greenback has hatched a cunning plan. |
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"It's the frogs - a credible source on the dark Web says it's a plan by a super breed of frogs to achieve world domination
Call Dangermouse sounds like Baron Greenback has hatched a cunning plan. "
Nah wasn’t the frogs but they were victim too. It was the humans and their atrazine!
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It's really common for people to latch onto conspiracy theories in times of mass panic or upheaval. It gives us a sense of order or control in what is typically a chaotic and unpredictable time.
Covid is a classic example. It can be easier to believe that there's some New World Order plan at play rather than accept it's a random virus crashing through our lives.
9/11 was the same. It was more comforting to believe that a government black op was responsible for the attack rather than be surrounded by faceless terrorists who could strike at any moment.
What we're seeing now, with massive PPE and testing contracts being handed out to the mates of those in charge, is the same as we saw after 9/11. Arms manufacturers and security firms did incredibly well off the back of the subsequent "war on terror". Fear is profitable and you'll find it being manipulated after any major event. But that's down to government cronyism after the fact. The actual event is usually as it seems.
In the case of the Virus, it really is just mutating, spreading and messing up our lives. There's no grand design behind it that I can see. |
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
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"I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it?which conspiracy theories seem more feasible?
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Spectre is behind it.. took a while to work it out..
We need 007.? |
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"I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it?which conspiracy theories seem more feasible?
Spectre is behind it.. took a while to work it out..
We need 007.?"
Did you not get the memo, he was killed on his last mission. |
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"I'm not an anti vaxer, I've had mine, but I'm hearing more people than ever talking about the virus and conspiracy theories, that as time goes one seem more feasible. My big problem with conspiracies for the virus and vaccines is 'what is the big plan' or why would anyone want to put us all through the past 2 years and what is the gain from it?"
The medical corporations have most definitely taken advantage of the situation, there's a lot of money to be made from continuation of the virus. More opportunist than conspiracy but still. And the medical corporations aren't the only ones who benefit from it continuing, specifically in cases of lockdown, tv companies and streaming service viewership rises, supermarkets profits skyrocket, amazon swallow up more and more and more smaller business space and offer those who lost their jobs to their ever growing greed a shit job as a warehouse body, social media interactions and data collection rakes in billions... And of course pornhub makes a lot of money from everyone wanking themselves into a stupor to escape the reality that they can't go see their parents while members of the government are partying and tryna shag secretaries... |
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Oh and of course the government's themselves are taking full advantage of it, slowly but surely mandating things and setting precedents and writing new laws that they will never unwrite and undo... |
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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago
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"Oh and of course the government's themselves are taking full advantage of it, slowly but surely mandating things and setting precedents and writing new laws that they will never unwrite and undo... " l
And the people being wheeled into intensive care with Covid are all in on this global scam and dying in order to help governments control you and make you wear a cloth mask |
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"The only 'conspiracy theory' is believing that the government and big pharma care about your health and that if you just keep complying, eventually this will all be over.
The government are very concerned about people's health, sick people are not earning and money so they don't pay any taxes... neither do dead ones.
As for pharmaceutical companies, they make much more money out of sick people than they do from vaccines. As a general rule, a vaccine is a high cost & low return product, the only reason they might make a profit is due to the quantity. They make much more out of £2000 per dose cancer treatments that go on for years. "
No, pharmaceutical companies make more money out of helping people cope and live with their illnesses and not truly fixing it. Same could easily be attributed to the vaccines that are nowhere near as useful as was originally stated. Also, vaccines are aimed to be given twice at least to nearly 8 billion people, that 16 billion doses. Add in the boosters, however many there will be of those and the possibility of a yearly booster like flu... That's a lot of possibly never ending profit. |
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"Oh and of course the government's themselves are taking full advantage of it, slowly but surely mandating things and setting precedents and writing new laws that they will never unwrite and undo... l
And the people being wheeled into intensive care with Covid are all in on this global scam and dying in order to help governments control you and make you wear a cloth mask "
I didn't mention a conspiracy? |
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"Interesting theory… it would explain why nobody has ever gone back to the moon I suppose "
I couldn’t find the original video of said NASA employee, but what Don Pettit says makes one wonder. |
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