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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " Tedious | |||
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"you may suggest that. It has never been loosened as far as I'm concerned anyway, we've both continued to wear them in those situations " Same here. We've all carried on wearing ours. | |||
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"you may suggest that. It has never been loosened as far as I'm concerned anyway, we've both continued to wear them in those situations " Same here, I’ve always used masks in all indoor settings since March 2020. I think Fabio meant ‘loosened’ in the sense that the mask mandate was no longer compulsory in England since July this year, so some people stopped using them because it was no longer law. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " They were not in Scotland and they have similar cases so cant see why you would suggest that. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened They were not in Scotland and they have similar cases so cant see why you would suggest that. " Still people need to keep there chins warmer now the cold weather is here | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it " If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. | |||
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"And the softening up process begins......again........" Softening up for what, to what end? Lady Astor | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want." If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would " So people are sheep for obeying the law? Good to know. I never stopped wearing a mask, and I get called a sheep all the time, despite the fact that my caution is the opposite of government messaging. Go figure  | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would So people are sheep for obeying the law? Good to know. I never stopped wearing a mask, and I get called a sheep all the time, despite the fact that my caution is the opposite of government messaging. Go figure "Good for you | |||
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"And the softening up process begins......again........ Softening up for what, to what end? Lady Astor" Getting people ready to accept another round of closures/bans/restrictions/lockdowns etc, as we've seen before. I am hoping very much that this won't be the case and that the mask mandate is just a precaution but unfortunately I have lost a lot of trust in the "science" and the govt. | |||
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"And the softening up process begins......again........" Yep. It’s “just” a mask. It’s “only” retail and transport. | |||
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"I forgot to mask up several times a few weeks back... and I ended up catching covid! Will be more careful obviously going forward." Hope it didn't knock you for 6 and your well into your recovery  xx | |||
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"most people still wear them in shops like i do around here." Only customers not staff as in there far to long! Spose at least we wont be passing out from the heat this time of year! Every cloud! X | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it " I thought we debunked that old fossil last year | |||
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"I'm not really one for moaning but I'm a bit sick of maskless people on buses coughing and sneezing. One daft cunt was even joking with her mum that she might have Covid (the mum was coughing like am 80 a day coal miner)." Times like that you wish it was legal to carry a fire arm. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it " Correct. A properly fitted medical grade mask will protect you from what youmight breathe in. Even if you have a medical grade mask with filtered in valves, other people are still "at risk" from the aerosol which you breathe out. I'd also suggest people should wear that paper hat you describe. | |||
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"I'm not really one for moaning but I'm a bit sick of maskless people on buses coughing and sneezing. One daft cunt was even joking with her mum that she might have Covid (the mum was coughing like am 80 a day coal miner). Times like that you wish it was legal to carry a fire arm." What? To shoot someone who might have a respiratory virus like a cold? You are a tad extreme. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want." Haha | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here. "Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it. | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it. "Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X"I can relate…….fellow picker here!! | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it. "People that are easily manipulated tend to believe the first thing they read or hear on a platform they like to use. Unfortunately social media has a massive influence on people. And most of those people haven’t had the reality of something bad happening to them or people they know. | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I can relate…….fellow picker here!! "Wont b as bad as colder now! Plus can go back to mouthing stuff at pesky customers in the way lol! What's ur pick rate ? X | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I can relate…….fellow picker here!!
Wont b as bad as colder now! Plus can go back to mouthing stuff at pesky customers in the way lol! What's ur pick rate ? X"Still bad enough, especially with it inevitably getting busier. 250-300 grocery, 200-225 fresh and frozen. Get my EarPods in and I’m away  | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X"I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself. | |||
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"Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X" Try wearing one whilst working a 12 hour shift 4 days a week within a hospital. You wont hear me moaning about it at work. I want to be protected at work from C-19 and I want to protect my patients. Any one of my patients could be someone's relative and I am sure they would be reassured knowing that me wearing a mask at work helps reduce the risk of transmission xx | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself. "Here we go my dog is blacker than your dog  | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " I've been wearing mine anyway and to be fair in derby today most seemed to be wearing them | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened They were not in Scotland and they have similar cases so cant see why you would suggest that. Still people need to keep there chins warmer now the cold weather is here "  | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself. Here we go my dog is blacker than your dog "The point being that people have been wearing masks and much more in workplaces for eons. It's not new but the way people go on, you'd think they'd been asked to run nails through their palms. | |||
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"Well at least this strain seems to know the difference between shops and the pub. " More people go to shops | |||
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"Well at least this strain seems to know the difference between shops and the pub. " It knows you can't drink a pint through it   | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want." Ha ha, great riposte. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would So people are sheep for obeying the law? Good to know. I never stopped wearing a mask, and I get called a sheep all the time, despite the fact that my caution is the opposite of government messaging. Go figure Good for you "She's a paragon that one | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
People that are easily manipulated tend to believe the first thing they read or hear on a platform they like to use. Unfortunately social media has a massive influence on people. And most of those people haven’t had the reality of something bad happening to them or people they know. "I don't know anyone who has been shot, or died from a bullet wound. I don't know anyone who has been injured or killed by an explosive device. So guns and bombs are totally safe to use, yet I am not allowed to own either of them FFS. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " a slack PM yet again forced to come into line with the proven standards set by wales and scotland. johnson is a hollow idiot playing politics by pandering to his extremist backbenchers. | |||
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"I don't suppose that the couples in shops who absolutely have to talk to each other non-stop and thus have the potential to project virus laden droplets near and further will be wearing masks, mandatory or otherwise. Needless to say, they will have availed themselves of exemption." Eh???? Neither of us has ever stopped wearing masks in shops etc. Plenty of single people in Sainsbury's not wearing them though - ought I to tar all single people with the same brush?? Mask wearing, since it was "dropped", has been incredibly patchy from all quarters of society. | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. " Absolutely! | |||
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"I never wore a mask and never would ... unless I was decorating." Well looking at that beauty of a cock and tight balls I've forgotten what's the topic...mmmm....Gorgeous!!   | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. Absolutely! " You also need to take into consideration their vaccination rate isn’t as high.. around 2/3 of the eligible population… | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. Absolutely! You also need to take into consideration their vaccination rate isn’t as high.. around 2/3 of the eligible population…" Although being vaccinated isn't a barrier to catching covid. My own opinion is that in the majority of places wearing a face covering isn't effective (in some cases it could make things worse- complacency or transmission of germs from dirty masks etc) but if a shop owner wants me to wear one I'm not going to be a dick about it. I just think that using common sense and good judgement is much better than relying on a piece of cloth. | |||
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"I never wore a mask and never would ... unless I was decorating." Neither have i | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. " Germany has a lower vaccination rate compared to other EU countries. Best to look at ‘All’ of the evidence staring at you, not look at just one and ignore the rest. | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. Germany has a lower vaccination rate compared to other EU countries. Best to look at ‘All’ of the evidence staring at you, not look at just one and ignore the rest. " And you believe the unvaccinated spread it more than the vaccinated? You still spread it if you’ve been vaccinated. It’s all theatre. I can’t believe how people are still buying the bs governments are spouting after two years of this nonsense. | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. Germany has a lower vaccination rate compared to other EU countries. Best to look at ‘All’ of the evidence staring at you, not look at just one and ignore the rest. And you believe the unvaccinated spread it more than the vaccinated? You still spread it if you’ve been vaccinated. It’s all theatre. I can’t believe how people are still buying the bs governments are spouting after two years of this nonsense. " Here we go again another amateur virologist. | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. Germany has a lower vaccination rate compared to other EU countries. Best to look at ‘All’ of the evidence staring at you, not look at just one and ignore the rest. And you believe the unvaccinated spread it more than the vaccinated? You still spread it if you’ve been vaccinated. It’s all theatre. I can’t believe how people are still buying the bs governments are spouting after two years of this nonsense. " You spread it less if you’re vaccinated | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would " Yep, that's us. Happy to wear a piece of paper, wear a hat, wear paper socks, wash our hands, bit of distance, quick spray of supermarket trolley handles. Donate a kidney, cut off a finger, maybe not. But all the other things the government ask us to do, don't find it too demanding but us sheep never do. | |||
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"you may suggest that. It has never been loosened as far as I'm concerned anyway, we've both continued to wear them in those situations " Same | |||
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"I'm not really one for moaning but I'm a bit sick of maskless people on buses coughing and sneezing. One daft cunt was even joking with her mum that she might have Covid (the mum was coughing like am 80 a day coal miner). Times like that you wish it was legal to carry a fire arm." | |||
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"I never wore a mask and never would ... unless I was decorating." | |||
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"I forgot to mask up several times a few weeks back... and I ended up catching covid! Will be more careful obviously going forward." You'll find that wearing a mask will not prevent you catching covid anyway. A bit like a chocolate fireguard in that instance. It MAY help others from you not passing it on easily but there are other ways to get covid that's why they provide hand sanitiser in most supermarkets. Don't beat yourself up because you didn't wear a mask and caught it. | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself. Here we go my dog is blacker than your dog
The point being that people have been wearing masks and much more in workplaces for eons. It's not new but the way people go on, you'd think they'd been asked to run nails through their palms. "I imagine you chose to do your work under those conditions? | |||
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"We’ll be in lockdown before you know it as it’s not been ruled out " Bring it on! | |||
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"And the softening up process begins......again........ Yep. It’s “just” a mask. It’s “only” retail and transport. " So mask on a bus with a small number of people but not in the pub with lots of people? So is health or finance being the priority. And remember I waire mine for you so please waire one for me. | |||
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"Shut up you idiot.Your opinion..If you look properly into mask effectiveness then comment.." Thats not necessary. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " Amen to that | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. " I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. " OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. " I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. " Actually I didn't even mention disabled, I just said 'discrimination' which is often abused by those that just want to flout the rules | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I can relate…….fellow picker here!!
Wont b as bad as colder now! Plus can go back to mouthing stuff at pesky customers in the way lol! What's ur pick rate ? X
Still bad enough, especially with it inevitably getting busier. 250-300 grocery, 200-225 fresh and frozen. Get my EarPods in and I’m away "Omg  that's high! Ambient/chilled and frozen all same rate at 175! Thought that was high enough! Do u allways achieve? X | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. " I didn't mention disabled people and can you tell me what a disabled person looks like please? And no why should somebody who has a disability who is already marginalised in society be told its best if you stay shut away and get someone to do your shopping for you. Unfortunately people who have this attitude have made lives of people that are already difficult even more difficult just accept if someone isn't wearing a face covering there may well be a very good reason and just keep your distance it's a simple as that. And no you don't get to ask why somebody can't wear face covering because it is their personal medical information that is none of your business. One not a medical professional so you don't get to decide who can and camp wear one. | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. I didn't mention disabled people and can you tell me what a disabled person looks like please? And no why should somebody who has a disability who is already marginalised in society be told its best if you stay shut away and get someone to do your shopping for you. Unfortunately people who have this attitude have made lives of people that are already difficult even more difficult just accept if someone isn't wearing a face covering there may well be a very good reason and just keep your distance it's a simple as that. And no you don't get to ask why somebody can't wear face covering because it is their personal medical information that is none of your business. One not a medical professional so you don't get to decide who can and camp wear one. " I'm just saying, the reason it can't be legally enforced, is exactly that. You asked the question | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. I didn't mention disabled people and can you tell me what a disabled person looks like please? And no why should somebody who has a disability who is already marginalised in society be told its best if you stay shut away and get someone to do your shopping for you. Unfortunately people who have this attitude have made lives of people that are already difficult even more difficult just accept if someone isn't wearing a face covering there may well be a very good reason and just keep your distance it's a simple as that. And no you don't get to ask why somebody can't wear face covering because it is their personal medical information that is none of your business. One not a medical professional so you don't get to decide who can and camp wear one. I'm just saying, the reason it can't be legally enforced, is exactly that. You asked the question " But it can be legally enforceable because it was last time so no you didn't answer my question. | |||
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"Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X Try wearing one whilst working a 12 hour shift 4 days a week within a hospital. You wont hear me moaning about it at work. I want to be protected at work from C-19 and I want to protect my patients. Any one of my patients could be someone's relative and I am sure they would be reassured knowing that me wearing a mask at work helps reduce the risk of transmission xx"Good for u! X | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself. Here we go my dog is blacker than your dog
The point being that people have been wearing masks and much more in workplaces for eons. It's not new but the way people go on, you'd think they'd been asked to run nails through their palms. "Um yes it is new for a mere supermarket worker! X | |||
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"I don't suppose that the couples in shops who absolutely have to talk to each other non-stop and thus have the potential to project virus laden droplets near and further will be wearing masks, mandatory or otherwise. Needless to say, they will have availed themselves of exemption. Eh???? Neither of us has ever stopped wearing masks in shops etc. Plenty of single people in Sainsbury's not wearing them though - ought I to tar all single people with the same brush?? Mask wearing, since it was "dropped", has been incredibly patchy from all quarters of society. " So in London we still have to wear masks on public transport and I have done. On trains Up north we don’t, and on trams in Manchester we do - so I do. I haven’t worn in shops as don’t need to as mandated by government but will do starting tomorrow Not an issue | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. I didn't mention disabled people and can you tell me what a disabled person looks like please? And no why should somebody who has a disability who is already marginalised in society be told its best if you stay shut away and get someone to do your shopping for you. Unfortunately people who have this attitude have made lives of people that are already difficult even more difficult just accept if someone isn't wearing a face covering there may well be a very good reason and just keep your distance it's a simple as that. And no you don't get to ask why somebody can't wear face covering because it is their personal medical information that is none of your business. One not a medical professional so you don't get to decide who can and camp wear one. I'm just saying, the reason it can't be legally enforced, is exactly that. You asked the question But it can be legally enforceable because it was last time so no you didn't answer my question. " It was not enforceable last time. The police tried to put the onus on the shop to make sure everyone wore a mask. The shop owners all united and said they couldn't discriminate between those that had a valid reason and those that just didn't want to wear one. | |||
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"Shut up you idiot.Your opinion..If you look properly into mask effectiveness then comment.." who's this directed at? And if YOU look into mask effectiveness, which I did, then Mayo clinic,CDC,Johns Hopkins,ncbi to name a few all come to the same conclusions. Masks work! I got bored trying to find something that says masks aren't effective so didn't bother going any further than pretty much the gold standards in the field. There's even a joint study by both Yale and Stanford that has still to be peer reviewed but said surgical masks are 95% effective at filtering out virus particles and the much maligned cloth mask still does 37%. You know the interesting thing that cropped up in my research? The face shield isn't that effective! So what have you been reading? | |||
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Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X"I work in a supermarket, 12 hr shifts 5 days a week, running around, pushing cages, collecting trolleys, etc. I don't have a problem wearing a mask and have continued to do so even when rules were relaxed. It's not just my health I'm protecting. | |||
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"It's very clever this virus must of gone to UNI ....knows if your on public transport or retail shopping so need to wear a mask But your OK in bars, restaurants and clubs it won't come near you " No one's saying "it knows you're in a restaurant, or bar so it won't come near you" We're saying, "how the heck are you going to eat yet samwich, with a mask on" | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " I quite agree... | |||
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Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I work in a supermarket, 12 hr shifts 5 days a week, running around, pushing cages, collecting trolleys, etc. I don't have a problem wearing a mask and have continued to do so even when rules were relaxed. It's not just my health I'm protecting. "Good for u!! X | |||
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"It's very clever this virus must of gone to UNI ....knows if your on public transport or retail shopping so need to wear a mask But your OK in bars, restaurants and clubs it won't come near you " No one is saying it knows. The difference is you can choose to go to a bar, restaurant, club knowing masks aren’t required, plus normally a set age demographic in them. A lot of people can’t choose not to use supermarkets, shops or public transport with all ages using them | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I can relate…….fellow picker here!!
Wont b as bad as colder now! Plus can go back to mouthing stuff at pesky customers in the way lol! What's ur pick rate ? X
Still bad enough, especially with it inevitably getting busier. 250-300 grocery, 200-225 fresh and frozen. Get my EarPods in and I’m away "Lucky you..you don't have to include customers in your equation.... i work for tesco and hated wearing the mask, hot, uncomfortable and bloody difficult to communicate in...especially older, hard of hearing or deaf people | |||
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"My understanding is they have said it is compulsory but not legally enforceable, I don't understand the difference to now then. I think what that mean is, it's compulsory to wear one. However due to discrimination, snowflakes and just being soft, anyone can claim they have 'issues' wearing a mask, and no one can challenge them or ask why.... So legally, no one can get into grief. OK that's not what I said in the slightest and there are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to be exempt and calling someone a snowflake is just insulting and lazy. And yes people can be challenged but only by people in authority like the police not nosy members of the public and rightly so. It was legally enforceable last time this time it isn't so that was my point not a debate about whether people should be called names for not wearing one. I didn't call disabled, snowflakes. Disabled have good reason, although if they can't wear a mask, maybe they could get someone to go into a shop, better than catching covid. I said disabled and snowflakes as the latter, many just use a loophole to exploit not wearing one. When I worked in a shop, not even shop staff could ask why people were not wearing masks. I didn't mention disabled people and can you tell me what a disabled person looks like please? And no why should somebody who has a disability who is already marginalised in society be told its best if you stay shut away and get someone to do your shopping for you. Unfortunately people who have this attitude have made lives of people that are already difficult even more difficult just accept if someone isn't wearing a face covering there may well be a very good reason and just keep your distance it's a simple as that. And no you don't get to ask why somebody can't wear face covering because it is their personal medical information that is none of your business. One not a medical professional so you don't get to decide who can and camp wear one. I'm just saying, the reason it can't be legally enforced, is exactly that. You asked the question But it can be legally enforceable because it was last time so no you didn't answer my question. It was not enforceable last time. The police tried to put the onus on the shop to make sure everyone wore a mask. The shop owners all united and said they couldn't discriminate between those that had a valid reason and those that just didn't want to wear one. " It wasn't necessarily policed but it was legally enforceable and they didn't put the onus on shopkeepers at all. | |||
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"And the softening up process begins......again........ Softening up for what, to what end? Lady Astor Getting people ready to accept another round of closures/bans/restrictions/lockdowns etc, as we've seen before. I am hoping very much that this won't be the case and that the mask mandate is just a precaution but unfortunately I have lost a lot of trust in the "science" and the govt." Nail and head comes to mind there. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " Absolutely agree.. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it " Even that will stop you sploshing virus ridden spit all over everyone you walk past and talk to. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it I thought we debunked that old fossil last year" Yup. Doesn't stop this pair repeating it like a broken record though. On the flipside, they've stopped calling masks muzzles. Winston | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would So people are sheep for obeying the law? Good to know. I never stopped wearing a mask, and I get called a sheep all the time, despite the fact that my caution is the opposite of government messaging. Go figure " | |||
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Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I work in a supermarket, 12 hr shifts 5 days a week, running around, pushing cages, collecting trolleys, etc. I don't have a problem wearing a mask and have continued to do so even when rules were relaxed. It's not just my health I'm protecting. " xx | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
I used to work in pharmaceutical clean rooms for 8hrs a day with a surgical mask and full hood and visor with safety goggles underneath the hood/visor. Not to mention the scrubs, all in one sterile suit, hairnet, special shoes, overboots and double or triple gloved. Then I'd climb inside a half suit isolator, akin to putting a space suit on. The mask was the least of our concerns - trying opening lids with three pairs of gloves on and being able to flick the sheath off a hypodermic needle without stabbing yourself.
Umm ur half my age and I take it u wernt running round with a trolley?? x"I worked with people of all ages and I had to crawl all around the floor, push trolleys of equipment and climb on surfaces to carry out microbiological sampling of the environment. It was a physical job, hence why I am now unable to do it anymore. I can't crawl under compounding cabinets in a wheelchair. | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would " Its beyond us why people belittle people for having a different outlook as them | |||
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"Hi. Interesting you are a picker.Hope you don't crush the bread and eggs by putting heavy items on top etc. Try delivering to 44 customers in a shift in the freezing cold and rain whilst wearing one. Not nice. Asda van driver by the way. X" Ha ha no I dont crush the bread and eggs unlike the youngsters! When they get to many complaints they change the picking route to get them picked last! Which adds to the time as we double back on our selves but it is what it is at end of day! If we have to wear them we will but deffo not out of choice x | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X"Try shovelling grain out of a 100T bin without wearing one Oh its soo hard to wear a mask whilst wondering around a climate controlled store, give me a break! | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened They were not in Scotland and they have similar cases so cant see why you would suggest that. " Yip it just shows how ineffective they are, cases still on the rise up here the same as England, get your jabs and bosster and get on with life it ain't going away anytime soon and at one point in your life you probably will catch it,if you want to wear a mask feel free but but it's up to me if I do. It may sound to some as selfish but if the put the same amount of cash in to cancer research as they have to covid I might still have a dad an auntie and at least 20 to 30 friends and work couleages that would still be here, know loads more friends work mates and their familys of all ages that have all had covid and all of them are still here some of them have even had it twice. | |||
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
Try working in a supermarket pushing a home shopping trolley picking 175 items an hour wearing one?? X
Try shovelling grain out of a 100T bin without wearing one Oh its soo hard to wear a mask whilst wondering around a climate controlled store, give me a break!"It's not a competition? x | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. " That's not what meta-analysis of the tens of peer reviewed published research data shows though - which is that masks do help to reduce infections. Which research data in the studies have you reviewed? Did you redo the statistical analysis and find alternative results - if so, it should be published. Germany has at some points during this pandemic done better than the UK. | |||
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" A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" This is a load of complete tosh. | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" Blimey. So the covid particles can get through the mask but oxygen and carbon dioxide molecules can’t. That is amazing that the much smaller gas molecules either get trapped or repelled by the masks | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" Is there a polite way to say, this is just utter b*ll*cks? | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" So why do the staff in hospitals wear them? | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" U have made me wonder now! I have had a sore mouth for months now! I put it down to the jabs as it is one of the side effects when I looked it up! So much so I refused the booster couple weeks ago! But maybe it was the constant wearing of the mask for my 8 hr supermarket shifts! and before the I wear mine for .... and I not got a sore mouth! Not everyone have same side affects as others! As like with all things! X | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not! U have made me wonder now! I have had a sore mouth for months now! I put it down to the jabs as it is one of the side effects when I looked it up! So much so I refused the booster couple weeks ago! But maybe it was the constant wearing of the mask for my 8 hr supermarket shifts! and before the I wear mine for .... and I not got a sore mouth! Not everyone have same side affects as others! As like with all things! X"I think you'll find that's Thrush | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened They were not in Scotland and they have similar cases so cant see why you would suggest that. " Exactly | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not! U have made me wonder now! I have had a sore mouth for months now! I put it down to the jabs as it is one of the side effects when I looked it up! So much so I refused the booster couple weeks ago! But maybe it was the constant wearing of the mask for my 8 hr supermarket shifts! and before the I wear mine for .... and I not got a sore mouth! Not everyone have same side affects as others! As like with all things! X
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"We've not stopped wearing them so no change here.
Same. It's not a big deal to wear one for 20-30 minutes on a bus or in a supermarket. Not sure why some people are so upset about it.
People that are easily manipulated tend to believe the first thing they read or hear on a platform they like to use. Unfortunately social media has a massive influence on people. And most of those people haven’t had the reality of something bad happening to them or people they know.
I don't know anyone who has been shot, or died from a bullet wound. I don't know anyone who has been injured or killed by an explosive device.
So guns and bombs are totally safe to use, yet I am not allowed to own either of them FFS."I have so don't be a cunt all your life and take a day off | |||
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"You still think face masks work? Really? Germany mandated *medical-grade* masks in January in most indoor public spaces. And they're currently seeing their biggest spike in cases. The evidence is staring people in the face, they simply don’t make any difference as we continually keep seeing. " People enjoy doing as they are told, we were told the vaccines work and would do away with all restrictions but here we are again. People will continue to wear them for many years for no reason as long as they are told to. Funny how hardly anyone used to wear them when seasonal flu and cold virus’s were about which were also very transmissible and could kill the vulnerable. | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not! Blimey. So the covid particles can get through the mask but oxygen and carbon dioxide molecules can’t. That is amazing that the much smaller gas molecules either get trapped or repelled by the masks" | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would " As soon as you call people sheep/sheeple you lose all credibility
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " its should never have been relaxed the minute anyone leaves their home they should wear a mask till they get back home,, why risk bringing the virus home to your loved ones its a no brainer... | |||
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"Unless you have the proper medical mask might as well put a paper hat on your head with mug written on it If you think that'll help, you can do that too if you want. If people where told to do it by Government some of the sheep would " Oh your so cool being rebellious. Did you always insist on sitting at the back of the bus on school trips with the other rebel's and cool kid's? | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" I think maybe wearing a face mask has starved your brain of oxygen. I've not read such a load of old nonsense in a long time. Winston | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" omg really...... this is such rubbish. I wear a mask to work.... and when we check our oxygen levels. ( came about as someone at the home was stating the oxygen depletion angle. There was no difference in it. My sister is very badly asthmatic . My brother has copd. BOTH manage to wear a mask with no issues.. Mask wearing does not increase co2 levels in the blood either. This is just regurgitated rubbish | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" Masks can't keep covid virus particles out but they can keep in CO2 particles which are many times smaller. How does that work? | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" The only person being brainwashed is you for believing and repeating this kind of utter nonsense - I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you even possess a brain to spout this kind of bollocks. | |||
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"I'm still looking for a panty mask "Google is your friend. You can buy used fashion panty-masks ($950). Although i suppose you could alter a Dr Whites.. | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not!" Wow… tin foil hat much??????  | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not! The only person being brainwashed is you for believing and repeating this kind of utter nonsense - I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you even possess a brain to spout this kind of bollocks. " Rude! X | |||
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"Let’s use common sense here and you don’t have to be a scientist or use a peer reviewed paper to explain theses facts for the people who think face masks will protect them from COVID-19. Although masks help to stop some respiratory droplets and saliva from coughing and sneezing regardless of what kind of mask you have maybe with the exception of a P3 mask which will filter at least 99% of particles from 0.3 microns in size upwards but still not good enough for COVID-19 virus which is on average size 0.1-0.5 microns as all masks have a network of microscopic pores which are larger than the Covid-19 virus they are supposed to help to keep out. If they didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to breathe in them at all. Viruses go right through masks, over and around them especially if not worn properly anyway. A common mantra uttered by some members of the brainwashed public along with politicians, scientist and bureaucrats who’s mental processes have atrophied from non use is that wearing a mask is small thing to ask—no big deal—a minor inconvenience. Oh, really? I think not. Masks are extremely damaging to the health of adults and children in numerous ways. Il explain, they obstruct the nose and mouth, cause oxygen deprivation, increases CO2 levels in the blood causing: hypoxia,hypercapnia, facial lesions, damage to teeth and gums such as gingivitis that along with less oxygen increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, increased risk of cancer due to lower oxygen levels that cancer thrives in and toxic substances in the masks that you are inhaling, psychological deterioration, physical and mental exhaustion, headaches, and confusion for people that have to wear them for many hours on end. Masks are even more harmful to children. Masks create a warm moist environment on the face which is a veritable petri dish for all sorts of pathogenic microbes that can cause clinically relevant fungal, bacterial or viral infections. In addition, mask wearers exhale more fine microscopic aerosol particles than non mask wearers which can remain suspended in the fluid air for hours and are the primary mode of viral transmission, not droplets. This is why plastic shields at store counters are worthless. The viral aerosols can be everywhere in the air indoors and everyone is breathing the same air especially if in a confined space. Actually think and don’t just follow the inconsistant government guidelines on mask wearing, is it going to even make a difference to Covid-19 transmission I think not! Wow… tin foil hat much?????? " | |||
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"Wearing a mask that is not designed to stop virus transmission makes no difference to the transmission of covid-19 virus particles that is much smaller than the pores in the mask. How is that hard to understand??? It’s not rocket science is it???" You are actually wrong. I agree that the way that people are wearing them is a problem but if you use a reasonably fitted, reasonable quality mask then they can work quite effectively. | |||
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"Boris said indoor retail settings and public transport at least for the next 3 weeks…. Can I suggest it should never have been loosened " I fully agree as usual with Boris only half a job somehow with pubs etc no restrictions regarding facemasks the people who work behind bars should be considered in this. Should never have removed mask wearing in shops and pubs etc health of the many far more important than those without. Yet again rest of uk took steps to bring in restrictions and because of Boris and his I know better than anyone else dragged his feet. | |||
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"The amount of noise created by people who refuse to step-up to reasonable requests and do their bit to help try and restrict the spread of covid is incredible. If the situation worsens and the requests become instruction to stay at home with pubs, restaurants and businesses forced to close again, what would the no mask wearing at any cost people say then? I hear excuse after excuse for not wearing a mask driven by unconsciously incompetent mindsets, no amount of reasoning will change this mindset and this is why the government needs to tell us what we need to do. The people who do their part in society are not sheep, the message from the government isn't for those that do their part, it is for the people that need telling... "
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"People can argue back and forth until the end of time about whether masks work or not. The problem is, mask MANDATES don’t work. Type of mask, the way they are worn, condition of masks, extended use and true efficiency of transmission reduction are all factors. The case data from July 19th between Scotland, Wales and England shows the mandates didn’t have much effect at all. Case rates were often higher in Scotland and Wales than they were in England. Does this mean masks make things worse? Not likely. Does it prove masks reduce transmission? Also no. Even going back to September 2020 when masks were made mandatory in pretty much every setting of the UK, cases skyrocketed. All of the papers supporting the use masks aren’t relevant to real life and human behaviour. Some people will wear perfect masks in the perfect way and reduce the spread of anything they might have. Most people however will wear a dirty cloth that’s been stuffed in and out of their pockets for a week. As has previously been mentioned, this seems more like a softening up exercise to prepare for harsher measures later. Perhaps a test of compliance? Either way, hopefully omicron comes to nothing and all this hysteria is short lived. " “………. Some people will wear perfect masks in the perfect way and reduce the spread of anything they might have……” ————————————— And if ‘some’ people do that, then it’s still better than if nobody did. | |||
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