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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." B probably | |||
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"only dogs wear Muzzles" Yes a very useful, educated addition to this thread | |||
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"They do feck all but increase bacteria to your own lungs once they quickly become dirty and damp face coverings. Viral wise they are like a chain link fence trying to stop a mosquito and a bit pountless. Sage advice from Whitty etc up until last summer was there was no data to suggest they worked then a leaked sage document by their behavioural pyhscologists stated they need to up the fear factor for social distance/lockdown compliance to increase so they were then mandated to increase the visual fear and compliance of covid rules..and are now pretty much purely virtue signalling devices So our answer is A. " **Please Fact Check for your own safety** | |||
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"only dogs wear Muzzles" You are aware the definition of to muzzle is to stops and animal biting or in human terms to stop them speaking. A mask does not stop you speaking therefore not a Muzzle. | |||
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"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe"" We aren’t though. We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries. | |||
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"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe" We aren’t though. We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries. " Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it? According to the official figures we currently have the fastest growth rates ahead of Russia, Ukraine, Rumania and Germany in that order. And to put that in perspective the growth rate in the UK is 4x that of Germany. In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania. | |||
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"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe" We aren’t though. We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries. Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it? According to the official figures we currently have the fastest growth rates ahead of Russia, Ukraine, Rumania and Germany in that order. And to put that in perspective the growth rate in the UK is 4x that of Germany. In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania. " I didn't try and suggest anything other than say according to the ONS report that was produced 3 days ago we are 11th on the list in Europe. Please don't put words in my mouth because at no point did I say we shouldn't worry about it! I simply pointed out that he was wrong to say we had the highest cases in Europe because we don't we are 11th. | |||
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"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not " Which one do you have? | |||
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"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not Which one do you have?" Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ? | |||
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"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not Which one do you have? Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ? " A normal one that paramedics and most NHS staff wear. I am not sure why you are interested in what others wear if you don't | |||
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"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not Which one do you have? Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ? A normal one that paramedics and most NHS staff wear. I am not sure why you are interested in what others wear if you don't" Just interested no law against that | |||
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"A- had enough of it. Those so called masks worn by billions won't protect you from viruses. Plus breathing own Co2 definitely have impact on your respiratory system. Ask respiratory specialists which mask would protect from viruses. Not those silly ones that people wearing. " If masks don't keep viruses in how do they keep much smaller CO2 particles in? | |||
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"(H) Haven’t worn them wont wear them, regardless of requirements advice and guidelines. Not one for doing things that have as many detriments as positives. " It’s always great to have a virologist posting on FAB | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." G | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." H) as long is reccomended by infectious disease experts reccomend we do, backed up with the scientific reasoning. | |||
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"(H) Haven’t worn them wont wear them, regardless of requirements advice and guidelines. Not one for doing things that have as many detriments as positives. " The number of every day things we do that meet your requirements for not wearing a mask is making my head hurt. Before I continue making the list can I check if this is an excuse for not wearing a mask? It would make life so much easier. | |||
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"only dogs wear Muzzles" I've just looked up muzzles. I don't think it means what you think it means. | |||
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"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks? Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same. If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely " I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot. | |||
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"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks? Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same. If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot. " You are both displaying principles and values that benefit others! This will not catch on, not on my watch | |||
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"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks? Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same. If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot. You are both displaying principles and values that benefit others! This will not catch on, not on my watch " Alas | |||
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"A- had enough of it. Those so called masks worn by billions won't protect you from viruses. Plus breathing own Co2 definitely have impact on your respiratory system. Ask respiratory specialists which mask would protect from viruses. Not those silly ones that people wearing. If masks don't keep viruses in how do they keep much smaller CO2 particles in?" | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. " What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?" Nothing really. Your immune system response is mostly quite specific to pathogen. So getting lots of colds isn't really going to help you fight off covid or flu when you need it. | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." As obviously a supporter of real, natural, unrestricted life I presume you’re going to leave your house, go naked and purely walk for the remainder of your days? As with pulling pants on every morning… I’ll do it for as long as it’s the sensible choice. | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?" Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." H When I feel it's going to be the right thing to do. I don't need some fucking clown in Westminster to tell me either ffs | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?" Dealing with the vaccines I've been giving it | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. " N95 masks only offer protection if they are fit tested No good if facial hair is present | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." A | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. N95 masks only offer protection if they are fit tested No good if facial hair is present " To repost… This information is absolutely incorrect and presented in the wrong context, you are referring to the fact you can when fit tested achieve a near 100% protection to any harmful airborne particles (of any virus). That is an entirely different equation to general mask wearing to reduce covid-19’s spread. That science works on the reduction of viral load both released and or inhaled by those wearing masks. Every mask from simple cloth coverings to full surgical masks achieves that. Covid-19 infection depends on viral load, it’s not a simple case that one particle ingested will infect someone, it’s when many do… therefore masks (of any sort) make a sizeable difference to public health. | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. " This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior. N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it. | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior. N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it." The fact that people deny basic physics to bandwagon on this silly little culture war is ridiculous. During a pandemic of a respiratory illness, reducing the trajectory of your spit and breath is a sensible precaution. The laws of how things are projected or not don't suddenly shatter under the horror of virtue signalling | |||
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"As long as it is necessary and or beneficial to public health. Additionally I hope this will mark a cultural shift and that anyone who has a cold or flue in the future will wear a mask and sanitize their hands when going out in public. Many cultures have been doing this for years and it is particularly effective in areas of high population density. " I am proof of this... | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from " Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior. N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it." Not sure on passing the virus, as most N95 masks have an exhaust port in them. | |||
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"Indoors until the plague has gone." so for ever then? You do realise this virus is gona be in the background forever | |||
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"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior. N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it. Not sure on passing the virus, as most N95 masks have an exhaust port in them. " I think early on people taped over it, and now they're being manufactured without the exhaust (or with a filtered exhaust). | |||
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"If this helps to protect me and others, it is a minor imposition, then happy to do ‘my bit’ for as long as is required… I still wear mine in shops and where asked to do so, or where I feel it sensible to do so. Maybe if we all complied with this and did ‘our bit’, we would help those who genuinely can’t wear masks, and help us all get to a position sooner where we no longer need them …. but reading much of the above realise I’m living in Narnia! R x" I was rummaging in the back of a wardrobe too | |||
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"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years. I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs. I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere. " If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible. I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask " Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers." Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes." I think it’s quite simple. If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask. If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask. If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work? Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes. I think it’s quite simple. If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask. If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask. If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work? Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate." I support your right to think whatever you choose. Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality. I recognise that there are accessibility issues that have been exacerbated by the pandemic, but reducing the spread of disease, and the knock on effects to other disabled and vulnerable people, takes precedence, I'm afraid. | |||
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"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years. I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs. I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere. If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible. I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask." Maybe think harder or smarter, is someone sneezing in your face not worse than you sneezing in your own mask? | |||
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"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years. I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs. I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere. If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible. I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask. Maybe think harder or smarter, is someone sneezing in your face not worse than you sneezing in your own mask?" Sneezing in the mask is pretty gross. But I have thought, imagine getting that all over my surroundings | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." A) not just because I’ve had enough, but because if mask wearing becomes mandatory, that means all swingers and fetish clubs will close again!!!! | |||
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"Do masks work... well let’s look at it this way, high rate of mask wearing last winter, low case rates of cold and flu.. does that not speak for itself?" You forget the lockdown! | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes. I think it’s quite simple. If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask. If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask. If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work? Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate. I support your right to think whatever you choose. Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality. I recognise that there are accessibility issues that have been exacerbated by the pandemic, but reducing the spread of disease, and the knock on effects to other disabled and vulnerable people, takes precedence, I'm afraid." Its easy for you to say it takes precedence as you don't have that is. In any case, it doesn't - as can be seen from them not being mandatory and the minority wearing them. | |||
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"Do masks work... well let’s look at it this way, high rate of mask wearing last winter, low case rates of cold and flu.. does that not speak for itself?" Masks were mandated late summer when Covid numbers in the UK were at their lowest. They then climbed all the way to the January peak. We were also locked down and wfh, preventing spread. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes. I think it’s quite simple. If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask. If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask. If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work? Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate. I support your right to think whatever you choose. Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality. I recognise that there are accessibility issues that have been exacerbated by the pandemic, but reducing the spread of disease, and the knock on effects to other disabled and vulnerable people, takes precedence, I'm afraid. Its easy for you to say it takes precedence as you don't have that is. In any case, it doesn't - as can be seen from them not being mandatory and the minority wearing them." I'm stating my beliefs, not the beliefs of the government or the populace. I prioritise death, disability, and the health system over most other things. My disability is also exacerbated by mask wearing, so I'm actually perfectly qualified to speak on the subject. | |||
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"Not sure there is a length of time that works. It is surely about the circumstances and culture. In Asian societies it is deemed polite to wear one if you have a cold. This seems a far more sensible approach than some arbitrary cut off date. " My current thinking is a) while infections rage, and after that b) in places where people can't avoid to be in c) high risk time periods (so, supermarkets, public transport, healthcare settings, particularly in winter, to reduce the incidence of flu). | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." C. We will struggle to control case numbers whilst so many remain unvaccinated- ( natural exposure only causes short term immunity)pressure is going to grow on those not vaccinated yet to vaccinate and this in turn will decrease R and infection rates in time - but this will take a year at least. | |||
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"just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." 'Reasonable' depends on the threat of the virus. If it becomes rampant then precautions should be for longer. But if it ebbs away, and maybe even becomes beaten by newer medical practice then precautions should also reduce sooner. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask " Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc." Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now. There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc. Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now. There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore. " Why do people need the government to tell them what to do and what not to do? A friend told me he was on a train to Scotland with only 20% of people wearing masks. As they crossed the border an announcement said that masks were now mandatory, and everyone out their masks on!! It's the same fucking train people!! | |||
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"Not sure there is a length of time that works. It is surely about the circumstances and culture. In Asian societies it is deemed polite to wear one if you have a cold. This seems a far more sensible approach than some arbitrary cut off date. " This - I've spent a lot of time in Asia and their attitude to mask wearing is spot on - makes us look medieval | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Loads play the human-rights ploy. Loads get away with it. Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public" They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted. While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied. Some people are just whingers. Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk. Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes. I think it’s quite simple. If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask. If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask. If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work? Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate." Masks work to reduce risk. The evidence of studies worldwide is irrefutable. But do you really need studies. It's plain obvious that if you create a barrier, it reduces the risk. MRSA was a huge crisis 20 years ago in hospitals. How did they control it? By getting clinicians, nurses, patients and visitors to wash their hands. Simple measures, cost nothing, restrict noone. | |||
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"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc. Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now. There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore. Why do people need the government to tell them what to do and what not to do? A friend told me he was on a train to Scotland with only 20% of people wearing masks. As they crossed the border an announcement said that masks were now mandatory, and everyone out their masks on!! It's the same fucking train people!! " I found the same phenomenon pretty startling | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable. C. We will struggle to control case numbers whilst so many remain unvaccinated- ( natural exposure only causes short term immunity)pressure is going to grow on those not vaccinated yet to vaccinate and this in turn will decrease R and infection rates in time - but this will take a year at least." Disagree! Firstly, +90% of adult population have been vaccinated. Secondly, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that natural immunity is no less protective than the gene therapy programme. Thirdly, your issue should not be to the minority unvaccinated but towards the lamentably slow 3rd dose rollout progarmme meaning those at high risk who received their 2nd dose early this year are now at great risk whike the virus currently runs roughshod. | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable. C. We will struggle to control case numbers whilst so many remain unvaccinated- ( natural exposure only causes short term immunity)pressure is going to grow on those not vaccinated yet to vaccinate and this in turn will decrease R and infection rates in time - but this will take a year at least. Disagree! Firstly, +90% of adult population have been vaccinated. Secondly, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that natural immunity is no less protective than the gene therapy programme. Thirdly, your issue should not be to the minority unvaccinated but towards the lamentably slow 3rd dose rollout progarmme meaning those at high risk who received their 2nd dose early this year are now at great risk whike the virus currently runs roughshod. " 1) only the over 50s have 90%+ vaccination rate. 2) the problem with natural immunity is it isn't uniform at all. It's especially generally weak in people with mild symptoms. Natural immunity also comes with side effects like death, organ damage and long covid as opposed to a sore arm or mild fever. 3 whilst I agree the booster rollout hasn't been amazing. It stands that the majority of people in hospital are unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are a smaller part of the population and generally younger so should only make a tiny fraction of hospital cases. | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc." This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. | |||
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"Unless everyone wears a mask it’s pointless the mask doesn’t protect you it protects others so unless everyone wears them it’s useless and people who don’t wear them properly " They protect both parties in reality. Any grade of mask reduces particle flow and therefore viral load potentially inhaled | |||
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"Unless everyone wears a mask it’s pointless the mask doesn’t protect you it protects others so unless everyone wears them it’s useless and people who don’t wear them properly They protect both parties in reality. Any grade of mask reduces particle flow and therefore viral load potentially inhaled " Covid isn't the only consideration. Masks are ok as a very temporary measure, but wi have a negative impact on the immune system if used for prolonged durations. We need exposure to pathogens. | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. " That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity. | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity." So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations? Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies? | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity. So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations? Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies?" I'm not overthrowing anything, love. The existing decades of data backs up this fact. It is evident that the immune system needs exposure to continue to work - this is why there are annual Flu jabs, this is why we are needing Covid boosters, this is why plenty of other vaccinations need boosters. And this is why kids raised in cometely sterile environments tend to have shit immune systems Feel free to explain which part of the above is incorrect | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity. So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations? Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies? I'm not overthrowing anything, love. The existing decades of data backs up this fact. It is evident that the immune system needs exposure to continue to work - this is why there are annual Flu jabs, this is why we are needing Covid boosters, this is why plenty of other vaccinations need boosters. And this is why kids raised in cometely sterile environments tend to have shit immune systems Feel free to explain which part of the above is incorrect" Alright, schnukums. The flu jabs confer limited immunity and antigenic drift means that they need to be replaced. Old technology. Covid is a new situation and the boosters are in part a precautionary measure - in part an artefact of the fact that it's much harder to measure T cell immunity, which might be more important. The childhood thing is true, but that doesn't mean it extends to adults with mature immune systems. Is that alright for you, pumpkin pie? | |||
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"That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity." The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection. You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses. The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains). Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing! The surge or late arrival of various illnesses has nothing to do with masks, it has everything to do with vast timespans in lockdown pushing their spread back. It’s an incredibly well documented area of medicine currently. Again, masks have zero negative impact on either your health or indeed immunity. If they did pretty much the entirety of the NHS would be bedridden or dead at this moment in time as we’ve lived solidly wearing them for the better part of 2 years. | |||
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"That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity. The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection. You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses. The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains). Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing! The surge or late arrival of various illnesses has nothing to do with masks, it has everything to do with vast timespans in lockdown pushing their spread back. It’s an incredibly well documented area of medicine currently. Again, masks have zero negative impact on either your health or indeed immunity. If they did pretty much the entirety of the NHS would be bedridden or dead at this moment in time as we’ve lived solidly wearing them for the better part of 2 years. " Too funny. Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point. To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable. | |||
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" Too funny. Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point. To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable." What’s your profession Light Switch? | |||
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"That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity. The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection. You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses. The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains). Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing! The surge or late arrival of various illnesses has nothing to do with masks, it has everything to do with vast timespans in lockdown pushing their spread back. It’s an incredibly well documented area of medicine currently. Again, masks have zero negative impact on either your health or indeed immunity. If they did pretty much the entirety of the NHS would be bedridden or dead at this moment in time as we’ve lived solidly wearing them for the better part of 2 years. Too funny. Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point. To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable." Why, because of your anecdote and falsely equating sterile infancy with infection control measures in adults? | |||
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"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket. I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs? Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness. IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future. This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc. This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing. I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place. That comment is so illogical. I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren. Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity." How is immunity topped up? This phrase is new to me | |||
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" How is immunity topped up? This phrase is new to me " Obviously someone has the view it works a bit like a petrol pump! | |||
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"Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point." Erm no, masks all work… depending on their grade and application they will give you a different level of effectiveness. Your point makes zero sense to me. Are you saying because I’ve solidly worn masks for the past two years (and worst news yet, for the vast proportion the highest of mask grades) that should I catch Covid-19 now it’s going to be a far more severe illness compared to a scenario where I caught it say 3 months back? Have I unwittingly given myself some kind of mask HIV? This doesn’t seem to be the reality I see with colleagues who are affected? As far as I’m aware distance between catching an illness has zero bearing on its severity or indeed one’s ability to fight off that infection. | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." It’ll be a couple of years for me on public spaces. | |||
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"would you wear mask when you play " No we wouldn't. But we'd ask that the person/people we play with would take a RFT before meeting, in the same way we'd ask for recent sexual screen results too. Besides, that is completely different to spending time in cramped spaces with people you have no idea about - such as public transport | |||
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"Have nice one...cheap Chinese rag on your face is make sense same as ashtray on motorcycle Or same peace of rag is protecting you same as a tshirt protecting you from bullet " Well you're talking nonsense | |||
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"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference" Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered? Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn? | |||
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"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered? Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn?" I remember a recent billboard in london tube stations. Be considerate, wear a mask as not all disabilities are obvious. At these challenging times of the pandemic, vaccinated and unvaccinated people should at least be considerate towards their fellow travelers even if wearing a mask is not compulsory. | |||
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"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered? Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn? I remember a recent billboard in london tube stations. Be considerate, wear a mask as not all disabilities are obvious. At these challenging times of the pandemic, vaccinated and unvaccinated people should at least be considerate towards their fellow travelers even if wearing a mask is not compulsory." It seems we're becoming less so, not more. All I can do is not respond when I'm shouted at. *shrug* | |||
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"would you wear mask when you play " Depends how kinky the play is... | |||
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"would you wear a muzzle on a meet" Do you wear a seatbelt when in a car? | |||
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"would you wear mask when you play Depends how kinky the play is..." Just Don’t start insulting the furries. We know how sensitive they can be. They don’t understand That fab and the real world isn’t Twitter where everyone agrees with you. /joking of course. No one agree with anyone on Twitter. | |||
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"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe" We aren’t though. We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries. Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it? According to the official figures we currently have the fastest growth rates ahead of Russia, Ukraine, Rumania and Germany in that order. And to put that in perspective the growth rate in the UK is 4x that of Germany. In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania. " So that, by your own words, doesn't make the uk the covid capital | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable." As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer? We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves. Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time. | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable. As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer? We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves. Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time." You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk. | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable. As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer? We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves. Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time. You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk. " | |||
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"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings. How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue? A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me. B) Just to get us through this winter C) for another year D) for another couple of years E) up to 5 years F) up to 10 years G) for the rest of my life if requested Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable. As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer? We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves. Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time. You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk. " | |||
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"I'm more than happy to follow the Japanese example - from November to March, when there is the greatest pressure on the health service, wear a mask in public. At the end of the day it's incredibly impolite to share germs with people who don't want them. Just my right to swing my arm ends at your nose, your right to be infectious ends at your front door. " | |||
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