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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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I know people have had either no side effects or reaction to the covid vaccines or have had a reaction to the vaccine and this has got me thinking.
If the vaccine caused a reaction or no reaction in a person and that person goes on to contract covid, how severe were the covid symptoms.
To those of you that have had covid, how were your symptoms compared to the reaction to the vaccine.
No reaction to vaccine / no or mild covid symptoms
No reaction to vaccine / strong covid symptoms
Strong reaction to vaccine / no or mild covid symptoms
Strong reaction to vaccine / strong covid symptoms
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The very low hospital rates are indicative of mild illness, pist infection.
We're all enjoying life as it is now because the vaccines are giving us this improved health potential 
Not been infected, so don't have an infection story. I'm very fortunate |
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I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x "
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? "
I don't know, but I know they did some sort of booster or vaccine combination trial. It might have something to do with the results of that |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Mild reaction to the vaccine and 24hrs of hell with covid but recovered quickly no doubt thanks to the vaccine"
that sounds like mild and mild in the grand scheme of things, but I bet in the 24 hour period you might have disagreed |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? "
think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
I'm glad you haven't had covid, neither have I.
The vaccines are doing a great job, I think we have forgotten the actual impact at its worst and I googled it to refresh my memory.
Jan 20th 2021 was the highest number of deaths in the UK in a single day 1820. that is 75 people an hour, more than 1 a minute. "
I have had covid. As I said I had it long before the vaccinations were a thing |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx "
Thanks for that and I do hope you start to feel better really soon  |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
I'm glad you haven't had covid, neither have I.
The vaccines are doing a great job, I think we have forgotten the actual impact at its worst and I googled it to refresh my memory.
Jan 20th 2021 was the highest number of deaths in the UK in a single day 1820. that is 75 people an hour, more than 1 a minute. I have had covid. As I said I had it long before the vaccinations were a thing "
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster?
I don't know, but I know they did some sort of booster or vaccine combination trial. It might have something to do with the results of that"
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"The very low hospital rates are indicative of mild illness, pist infection.
We're all enjoying life as it is now because the vaccines are giving us this improved health potential
Not been infected, so don't have an infection story. I'm very fortunate "
I'm glad you haven't had covid, neither have I.
The vaccines are doing a great job, I think we have forgotten the actual impact at its worst and I googled it to refresh my memory.
Jan 20th 2021 was the highest number of deaths in the UK in a single day 1820. that is 75 people an hour, more than 1 a minute. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had Covid and was pretty ill with it but never in hospital.
Also had long Covid.
The first jab was very similar to the illness but much milder and shorter. Also seemed to exacerbate long covid.
The second jab had very minor side effects.
Elle had it similar but she wasn't too bad with the first jab but had worse side effects with the second. |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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Mild reaction to jabs I did catch covid and it floored me for a week really breathless ,very high temperature, low sats it was a lot worse than any flu I ever had but didn't need to go to hospital. Still breathless and tired all the time but that can last for months after .
Got my booster through work felt flu like the following day that was all. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"I had Covid and was pretty ill with it but never in hospital.
Also had long Covid.
The first jab was very similar to the illness but much milder and shorter. Also seemed to exacerbate long covid.
The second jab had very minor side effects.
Elle had it similar but she wasn't too bad with the first jab but had worse side effects with the second."
Do you still have issues with long covid or are you now back to normal? |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Mild reaction to jabs I did catch covid and it floored me for a week really breathless ,very high temperature, low sats it was a lot worse than any flu I ever had but didn't need to go to hospital. Still breathless and tired all the time but that can last for months after .
Got my booster through work felt flu like the following day that was all. "
Do you have long covid, being breathless and tired all of the time? |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"Mild reaction to jabs I did catch covid and it floored me for a week really breathless ,very high temperature, low sats it was a lot worse than any flu I ever had but didn't need to go to hospital. Still breathless and tired all the time but that can last for months after .
Got my booster through work felt flu like the following day that was all.
Do you have long covid, being breathless and tired all of the time? "
Ye most likely. But I am working long hours as well which doesn't help recovery. |
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By *otMe66 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Mild reaction to jabs I did catch covid and it floored me for a week really breathless ,very high temperature, low sats it was a lot worse than any flu I ever had but didn't need to go to hospital. Still breathless and tired all the time but that can last for months after .
Got my booster through work felt flu like the following day that was all.
Do you have long covid, being breathless and tired all of the time?
Ye most likely. But I am working long hours as well which doesn't help recovery. "
Fingers crossed your health improves and your working hours go the same way too |
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I had covid prior to the jab. Was rough for about half a day. Had bad reaction to the vaccine resulting in X-rays, blood tests and ultrasounds. After seeing the specialist I was told it was likely because I had already had covid. |
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"I had Covid and was pretty ill with it but never in hospital.
Also had long Covid.
The first jab was very similar to the illness but much milder and shorter. Also seemed to exacerbate long covid.
The second jab had very minor side effects.
Elle had it similar but she wasn't too bad with the first jab but had worse side effects with the second.
Do you still have issues with long covid or are you now back to normal? "
Sense of smell is a bit off. My voice breaks when I'm ill. Bits of brain fog.
But none of it debilitating and back to doing full workouts and we run a lot of miles. |
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Achilles had covid really really bad and was told to go to hospital but refused. (We are not part of the NHS it is £55 per doctors appointment). He had the astrizenica (I can't spell the word ) with no reactions at all.
In comparison to Achilles I had a mild covid symptoms. I had the Pfizer and had a very very bad reaction I was throwing up for 12 days straight and could not eat a thing without being violently ill. I went a day and half without any water because I could not keep that down. I ended up on nearly 4 different tablets multiple times a day for 3 weeks to get back to normal. Needless to say I will not be having the booster. |
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I had suspected Covid last year, before testing was available. I was flat out in bed for two weeks, and struggled with energy and fatigue for a further two months.
After vaccine one (don't know what I got, trial) I had 24 hours of flu like symptoms (bone ache, fever, fatigue) and a few days of malaise. After vaccine two I had a few hours of malaise. |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? "
Not in the supply chain, have some patients who can't have the Pfizer, been waiting weeks to be told we will get one vial per practice!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know people have had either no side effects or reaction to the covid vaccines or have had a reaction to the vaccine and this has got me thinking.
If the vaccine caused a reaction or no reaction in a person and that person goes on to contract covid, how severe were the covid symptoms.
To those of you that have had covid, how were your symptoms compared to the reaction to the vaccine.
No reaction to vaccine / no or mild covid symptoms
No reaction to vaccine / strong covid symptoms
Strong reaction to vaccine / no or mild covid symptoms
Strong reaction to vaccine / strong covid symptoms
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Had covid post vaccine. Vaccine reaction was worse - but still wasn’t bad.
Reason my covid illness was so mild was because the vaccine had given me the protection ahead of time. Otherwise I’m sure I would have been much more ill (I only had the sniffles and a few hours of a fever). |
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3 days off I'll after second vaccine, 3 weeks off after actual covid.
Vaccine reaction no where near as bad as the symptoms with covid. Still have lung pain and a dry cough but i can't imagine it without the vaccine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My own experience has been no reaction to vaccine and mild covid symptoms
Both my housemates had a mild reaction to the vaccine and have been flattened by covid.
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx "
I've not seen any trials on mixing with AZ they were all mixing with Moderna Pfizer and Merck.
AZ costs £3
Pfizer £36
Moderna £58
That probably tells you more why AZ isn't being used. |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx
I've not seen any trials on mixing with AZ they were all mixing with Moderna Pfizer and Merck.
AZ costs £3
Pfizer £36
Moderna £58
That probably tells you more why AZ isn't being used."
I have no idea why AZ isn't being used, but they certainly looked at it
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/world-first-covid-19-vaccine-booster-study-launches-in-uk |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx
I've not seen any trials on mixing with AZ they were all mixing with Moderna Pfizer and Merck.
AZ costs £3
Pfizer £36
Moderna £58
That probably tells you more why AZ isn't being used.
I have no idea why AZ isn't being used, but they certainly looked at it
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/world-first-covid-19-vaccine-booster-study-launches-in-uk"
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Have you read that report from the study?. |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx
I've not seen any trials on mixing with AZ they were all mixing with Moderna Pfizer and Merck.
AZ costs £3
Pfizer £36
Moderna £58
That probably tells you more why AZ isn't being used.
I have no idea why AZ isn't being used, but they certainly looked at it
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/world-first-covid-19-vaccine-booster-study-launches-in-uk.
Have you read that report from the study?."
No, afraid I'm simply just aware of its existence and used the link to show I'm not making it up. |
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I've not had the jabs but was kept in Hospital with COVID for 14 days prior to transfer to neurosurgery. I had no symptoms other than water tasted like mild bleach and I was exhausted, I never required oxygen or had a temp. The ratio of jabbed v non jabbed was half half.
I cant be jabbed now till next year when my antibodies run out. |
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"I've not had the jabs but was kept in Hospital with COVID for 14 days prior to transfer to neurosurgery. I had no symptoms other than water tasted like mild bleach and I was exhausted, I never required oxygen or had a temp. The ratio of jabbed v non jabbed was half half.
I cant be jabbed now till next year when my antibodies run out."
Did they say how long your antibodies last as its a mute point from all that I've read so far ? |
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over a year ago
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The information has been that having antibodies from the vaccine or an infection won't prevent you catching covid but should lessen the effect.
It just demonstrates that cockwomble Boris and his herd immunity talk was, as most of us realised, a load of bollocks |
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"The information has been that having antibodies from the vaccine or an infection won't prevent you catching covid but should lessen the effect.
It just demonstrates that cockwomble Boris and his herd immunity talk was, as most of us realised, a load of bollocks"
Yes like an inbuilt vaccine |
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"The information has been that having antibodies from the vaccine or an infection won't prevent you catching covid but should lessen the effect.
It just demonstrates that cockwomble Boris and his herd immunity talk was, as most of us realised, a load of bollocks"
Yes, it won't prevent but it will reduce you chances of catching covid. |
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Sooo to be clear, the reason we should all have the 2 jabs plus booster vaccination, a vaccination passport, huge stack of various forms, take a PCR test that maybe may or not show a negative or positive is to reduce the possibility of the effects of the Covid symptoms infection?
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"Sooo to be clear, the reason we should all have the 2 jabs plus booster vaccination, a vaccination passport, huge stack of various forms, take a PCR test that maybe may or not show a negative or positive is to reduce the possibility of the effects of the Covid symptoms infection?
Adam"
I mean if you want to amplify the negatives and virtually eliminate the positives of vaccination, then sure.
I'm probably the only one on the thread with a huge stack of forms (vaccine trial), but an outlier serves your argument, so go right ahead. |
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"I've not had the jabs but was kept in Hospital with COVID for 14 days prior to transfer to neurosurgery. I had no symptoms other than water tasted like mild bleach and I was exhausted, I never required oxygen or had a temp. The ratio of jabbed v non jabbed was half half.
I cant be jabbed now till next year when my antibodies run out.
Did they say how long your antibodies last as its a mute point from all that I've read so far ?"
Antibodies to a specific antigen are usually short lived. As are specific T cells. The body can manufacture antibodies to a specific threat that it fought before from memory B cells..
As for vaccine side effects, if you have had the disease previously, you can expect a robust response from your immune system to the first vaccine and a lower response toward the second. |
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"I haven't got "a huge stack of various forms". Where can I get them ?
Possibly from the other person who replied to my question
Adam"
Enrolment closed in May 2021, unfortunately.
They gave the forms out as part of their obligations to test subjects under the Declaration of Helsinki. Making sure that the uniquely vulnerable position of a trial participant is protected.
Super scary 
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By *ohnj21Man
over a year ago
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"I've not had the jabs but was kept in Hospital with COVID for 14 days prior to transfer to neurosurgery. I had no symptoms other than water tasted like mild bleach and I was exhausted, I never required oxygen or had a temp. The ratio of jabbed v non jabbed was half half.
I cant be jabbed now till next year when my antibodies run out.
Did they say how long your antibodies last as its a mute point from all that I've read so far ?
Antibodies to a specific antigen are usually short lived. As are specific T cells. The body can manufacture antibodies to a specific threat that it fought before from memory B cells..
As for vaccine side effects, if you have had the disease previously, you can expect a robust response from your immune system to the first vaccine and a lower response toward the second."
Is that a fact. Where's the evidence |
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"I had covid long before the vaccinations. Never been so poorly before. Took me months to be right..and still get days where I'm just floored.
Had sore arm and a few days of feeling tired with both my AZ jabs.... the Pfizer I've just had as my 3rd has had me in bed all day today. And agony with my arm x
do you know why they aren't giving AZ as the booster? think it's due to the fact that Pfizer had been approved for the third dose. And they have done testing to see if you can safely mix xx
I've not seen any trials on mixing with AZ they were all mixing with Moderna Pfizer and Merck.
AZ costs £3
Pfizer £36
Moderna £58
That probably tells you more why AZ isn't being used.
I have no idea why AZ isn't being used, but they certainly looked at it
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/world-first-covid-19-vaccine-booster-study-launches-in-uk.
Have you read that report from the study?.
No, afraid I'm simply just aware of its existence and used the link to show I'm not making it up."
Its main purpose was to see if there was more adverse reactions from mixing which it found there was but none severe, it was done on the basis of health workers requiring days off after being vaccinated.
Single blind with a control group of 158 all over aged 30.
The went on to a big study involving a thousand but they've not released the data on that one.
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You have either had the placebo or the experiment if they jabbed everyone at the same time with the experimental jab no one would else would think of getting it after I feel for the ones who have been tricked into getting it going be a tougher winter this year but people lack common sense no one knows the long term data because it was rushed they didn’t even complete the animal trials after all them died it’s all about money and population control |
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"You have either had the placebo or the experiment if they jabbed everyone at the same time with the experimental jab no one would else would think of getting it after I feel for the ones who have been tricked into getting it going be a tougher winter this year but people lack common sense no one knows the long term data because it was rushed they didn’t even complete the animal trials after all them died it’s all about money and population control "
The people in the clinical trials may have had a placebo or an experimental vaccine candidate.
Those people are a tiny minority of those vaccinated in the UK, and know who they are, because it doesn't exactly happen by accident. |
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