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"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "Stay safe. Drink plenty. Have someone check in on you | |||
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"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "I tested positive on Sunday can still smell and taste fine, infact I'm not bad considering, but do get horrible muscle pains at night and lightheadedness. Hope you stay reasonably well op | |||
"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "Have you had the vaccine | |||
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"Thanks for replying OP " He might be too ill to? | |||
"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? " Hes on line | |||
"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "Look after yourself lovely xxx | |||
"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? Hes on line" I see, I hope he is okay | |||
"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? Hes on line I see, I hope he is okay" I do xx | |||
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"Did ye aye "How rude | |||
"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? Hes on line" It isn't compulsory to come back to a thread. | |||
"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? Hes on line It isn't compulsory to come back to a thread." No but I wanted to know if he was ok | |||
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"Then maybe less sarcasm will get a response" Ok well I emailed him | |||
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"Cheers for the concern guys, thanks a lot.. I'm ok, just feeling a bit rough, tired and achey " it is good to hear you are okay  | |||
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"I’ve just taken a lateral flow and tested positive after feeling ill for a few days. Its like a really bad cold thats getting worse. Can still smell and taste at moment but feel run down and tired. I’ve ordered PCR to be delivered to my home. I’m hoping its a false positive but think I’ve got it. Looks like its a few days of watching films and playing on PlayStation for me. " I hope you're okay and catching up on PS gaming cant be all bad. Where or how do you order a PCR to be delivered to your home? | |||
"I’ve just taken a lateral flow and tested positive after feeling ill for a few days. Its like a really bad cold thats getting worse. Can still smell and taste at moment but feel run down and tired. I’ve ordered PCR to be delivered to my home. I’m hoping its a false positive but think I’ve got it. Looks like its a few days of watching films and playing on PlayStation for me. I hope you're okay and catching up on PS gaming cant be all bad. Where or how do you order a PCR to be delivered to your home?" I just googled it on phone. “What to do if you have covid symptoms” or “what to do if you have taken a positive lateral test” It takes you to a .guv website and just follow instructions. Depending where you live you can go to a test centre or choose to have one delivered to your home which you have to post off to get results. | |||
"I’ve just taken a lateral flow and tested positive after feeling ill for a few days. Its like a really bad cold thats getting worse. Can still smell and taste at moment but feel run down and tired. I’ve ordered PCR to be delivered to my home. I’m hoping its a false positive but think I’ve got it. Looks like its a few days of watching films and playing on PlayStation for me. I hope you're okay and catching up on PS gaming cant be all bad. Where or how do you order a PCR to be delivered to your home?" Ring 119 x | |||
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"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. " I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms 
Hope you feel better soon. | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon. "Lots won't get paid. | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid."This is the issue I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
"We pay full sick pay and offer people the chance to work from home through any isolation period including coming back from holiday. He was being dumb. | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
We pay full sick pay and offer people the chance to work from home through any isolation period including coming back from holiday.
He was being dumb. "Whoever 'we' are, that's nice for you But many companies track your sickness and if you have a certain amount of illness 'instances' over the year you can be placed on suck wonderful things as wellness record's. Keep having illnesses and you lose your job Hence the culture that exists where people go into work when sick And it's all well and good that your company offer people the chance to work from home, but that's a new development since Covid, isn't it | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
"You wouldn’t expect sickness not to go on a sickness record would you? That’s the sort of idea. Does your friend miss work through sickness on a regular basis? | |||
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"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
You wouldn’t expect sickness not to go on a sickness record would you? That’s the sort of idea. Does your friend miss work through sickness on a regular basis? "No, however I would argue that marking someone down not for an illness, but for a reaction to a vaccine that all are expected to take is in poor form If you disagree that's up to you, I care not It doesn't take away fromy point that because of the culture of workplaces monitoring people's sicknesses (which I understand is necessary because people take the piss) it has still fostered a culture where people go into work when they are ill, so they don't trigger a sickness review by their employers | |||
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"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
We pay full sick pay and offer people the chance to work from home through any isolation period including coming back from holiday.
He was being dumb.
Whoever 'we' are, that's nice for you
But many companies track your sickness and if you have a certain amount of illness 'instances' over the year you can be placed on suck wonderful things as wellness record's. Keep having illnesses and you lose your job
Hence the culture that exists where people go into work when sick
And it's all well and good that your company offer people the chance to work from home, but that's a new development since Covid, isn't it"Nope we have been offered working from home since 2014. It’s a great concept and helps give people a better work life balance. | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
We pay full sick pay and offer people the chance to work from home through any isolation period including coming back from holiday.
He was being dumb.
Whoever 'we' are, that's nice for you
But many companies track your sickness and if you have a certain amount of illness 'instances' over the year you can be placed on suck wonderful things as wellness record's. Keep having illnesses and you lose your job
Hence the culture that exists where people go into work when sick
And it's all well and good that your company offer people the chance to work from home, but that's a new development since Covid, isn't it
Nope we have been offered working from home since 2014. It’s a great concept and helps give people a better work life balance. "That's fantastic for you I've been working home and I hope the company I work for continue with it. Xmas 2019 I had a wicked cold I picked up in the office. Purely because the guy who brought it into the office had missed the previous 2 xmas' with an illness and as he had joked about 'having Xmas off again' came into work sick as a pig as he was worried about actually taking the time off. Bit going back to working from home, it is a far better work / life balance. Less petrol commuting too. | |||
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"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight" I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? | |||
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"Im currently really suffering with covid was taken to hospital on Friday as my oxygen levels were too low currently back at home now under a scheme called the covid virtual ward where the staff call me at home everyday to check on my oxygen levels. Im on a high dose of steriods and antibiotics Its been very scary the last few days and yes im double jabbed too i dont mean to worry anyone as everyone responds differently but please treat it seriously and if you can order yourself a oximeter this is the first indication of when covid could become life threatening xx" I really hope you are feeling better soon. It can be an awful illness. Sending good thoughts your way x | |||
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"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? " It got worse for me... lack of energy, didn't want to eat as couldn't taste anything, hacking cough, struggled to sleep at night, couldn't stay awake in the day, hot flushes, cold bouts, muscle aches. Hope you get over it as quickly as possible | |||
"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? " Without wishing to worry you, it can go either way. You might start to improve after a few days feeling grim, or you might get worse. As another poster says, get a pulse oximeter (can be ordered online) and seek immediate medical advice if your sats drop to 95 or below when sitting still. Always err on the side of caution and seek advice from 111, your GP or 999 (circumstances dictate which) - this is NOT the time to "man up" or try to avoid "wasting people's time" etc. It's best to get early advice for prompt intervention, if required. | |||
"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? Without wishing to worry you, it can go either way. You might start to improve after a few days feeling grim, or you might get worse. As another poster says, get a pulse oximeter (can be ordered online) and seek immediate medical advice if your sats drop to 95 or below when sitting still. Always err on the side of caution and seek advice from 111, your GP or 999 (circumstances dictate which) - this is NOT the time to "man up" or try to avoid "wasting people's time" etc. It's best to get early advice for prompt intervention, if required. " This is good advice. If as a family we'd all known about oximetres at the time, it may have saved my brother, or given him more of a fighting chance. | |||
"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? Without wishing to worry you, it can go either way. You might start to improve after a few days feeling grim, or you might get worse. As another poster says, get a pulse oximeter (can be ordered online) and seek immediate medical advice if your sats drop to 95 or below when sitting still. Always err on the side of caution and seek advice from 111, your GP or 999 (circumstances dictate which) - this is NOT the time to "man up" or try to avoid "wasting people's time" etc. It's best to get early advice for prompt intervention, if required. This is good advice. If as a family we'd all known about oximetres at the time, it may have saved my brother, or given him more of a fighting chance." That's awful and I'm sorry to hear that. I know I got an oximeter cheap on Amazon was delivered next day when I had covid. Well worth it. | |||
"Im currently really suffering with covid was taken to hospital on Friday as my oxygen levels were too low currently back at home now under a scheme called the covid virtual ward where the staff call me at home everyday to check on my oxygen levels. Im on a high dose of steriods and antibiotics Its been very scary the last few days and yes im double jabbed too i dont mean to worry anyone as everyone responds differently but please treat it seriously and if you can order yourself a oximeter this is the first indication of when covid could become life threatening xx" I was like that before being jabbed so I know how you feel.... Just take it easy and drink plenty. I would say sleep but I know my steroids kept me wide awake!!! I hate sleeping on my front but gotta admit it did help during covid. Look after yourself | |||
"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "I was positive a couple of weeks ago (15th) and am now fully recovered apart from my chest can get a bit tight when I'm over exerting myself. I am starting to taste some things ever so slightly but still have no smell at all, not even bleach! My anti body test came back as positive for anti bodies but it said at the bottom of the text it probably wasn't from this recent infection, I've had it twice and didn't even know about the first time then! Nice to have those natural anti-bodies though, the body is amazing 
Another few days you will be starting to feel fully better. I think I was out of action for a week and then built myself back up again.
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"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. " Get better soon our twisty | |||
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"Im currently really suffering with covid was taken to hospital on Friday as my oxygen levels were too low currently back at home now under a scheme called the covid virtual ward where the staff call me at home everyday to check on my oxygen levels. Im on a high dose of steriods and antibiotics Its been very scary the last few days and yes im double jabbed too i dont mean to worry anyone as everyone responds differently but please treat it seriously and if you can order yourself a oximeter this is the first indication of when covid could become life threatening xx" All the best lovely Look after yourself x | |||
"I've just had a positive lateral flow now. Taste and smell a bit weird and a slight cough but OK really. Early to bed for me tonight I tested positive on Friday. Saturday was fine, bit of a sniffle and some sneezing Today has been not fun - aching joints, painful sinuses, sneezing, no energy... generally feel like shit. Does it get better or worse from here on in? Without wishing to worry you, it can go either way. You might start to improve after a few days feeling grim, or you might get worse. As another poster says, get a pulse oximeter (can be ordered online) and seek immediate medical advice if your sats drop to 95 or below when sitting still. Always err on the side of caution and seek advice from 111, your GP or 999 (circumstances dictate which) - this is NOT the time to "man up" or try to avoid "wasting people's time" etc. It's best to get early advice for prompt intervention, if required. This is good advice. If as a family we'd all known about oximetres at the time, it may have saved my brother, or given him more of a fighting chance. That's awful and I'm sorry to hear that. I know I got an oximeter cheap on Amazon was delivered next day when I had covid. Well worth it. " Thank you It's important to take all precautions. | |||
"Housemate 1 felt rough on Wednesday and did lft test Thursday which was positive. Pcr confirmed it on Friday. Housemate 2 got tested pcr on Thursday confirmed positive. Test I did on Friday was negative, but started sore throat and sniffles on Saturday and just been confirmed positive for the Chinese batflu. Right now it feels like a bad cold. " Hopefully it'll get no worse than that for you..... Get well soon | |||
"Well that was an interesting night. Temperature all over the place. Got an odd feeling on my skin as well when I put clothes on it feels like the material is rubbing. Very weird. " Hubster said he had a strange feeling on his skin when he had Covid last Ocotber. | |||
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"Thanks for replying OP He might be too ill to? " or just not been back to the forums????? | |||
"Im currently really suffering with covid was taken to hospital on Friday as my oxygen levels were too low currently back at home now under a scheme called the covid virtual ward where the staff call me at home everyday to check on my oxygen levels. Im on a high dose of steriods and antibiotics Its been very scary the last few days and yes im double jabbed too i dont mean to worry anyone as everyone responds differently but please treat it seriously and if you can order yourself a oximeter this is the first indication of when covid could become life threatening xx All the best lovely Look after yourself x" Aw thank you xx My oxygen levels are increasing which is a good sign but for some strange reason i feel worse today but hopefully im over the worst now x | |||
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"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon. "Something else I don't understand.. A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive. Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate. I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal? For those poorly and positive or suspected, get your hands on a Blood Oximeter as they are invaluable to monitoring oxygen levels.. | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Something else I don't understand..
A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive.
Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate.
I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal?
For those poorly and positive or suspected, get your hands on a Blood Oximeter as they are invaluable to monitoring oxygen levels.. "Unless your peripheral extremeties are cold. This has to be considered when doing saturation oximetary. An ABG is the only conclusive reading for oxygen saturation levels. | |||
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"Im currently really suffering with covid was taken to hospital on Friday as my oxygen levels were too low currently back at home now under a scheme called the covid virtual ward where the staff call me at home everyday to check on my oxygen levels. Im on a high dose of steriods and antibiotics Its been very scary the last few days and yes im double jabbed too i dont mean to worry anyone as everyone responds differently but please treat it seriously and if you can order yourself a oximeter this is the first indication of when covid could become life threatening xx All the best lovely Look after yourself x Aw thank you xx My oxygen levels are increasing which is a good sign but for some strange reason i feel worse today but hopefully im over the worst now x" Good to hear about the improving picture! I certainly hope you are over the worst, rest up | |||
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" Something else I don't understand.. A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive. Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate. I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal? " It is called herd immunity but we can't call it that. Using our children like this is not right. It is why 1 in 20 schoolchildren have covid at the moment who will probably pass it onto their parents and grandparents. | |||
" Something else I don't understand.. A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive. Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate. I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal? It is called herd immunity but we can't call it that. Using our children like this is not right. It is why 1 in 20 schoolchildren have covid at the moment who will probably pass it onto their parents and grandparents." For me, herd immunity isn't letting the disease spread. It's more like this. I'm vaccinated against rubella. Rubella is a mild illness unless you're pregnant - in which case it can do serious harm to the baby. I do not have children. I do not plan to have children. But hopefully my immunity to rubella puts a barrier between rubella and a baby who would otherwise have been born with birth defects. I help shield those who need protection. I hope others shield me in return. | |||
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""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that" Unfortunately, the various mutations are meaning herd immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is proving pretty much impossible to achieve. Swing was using the rubella example as exactly that, an example. Lots of people have that vaccine, but for whom the disease is no threat at all. We maintain population level immunity to protect pregnant women and babies only. It's the same with the COVID vaccines - some people will take the vaccine but for whom the disease itself would be trivial/mild. They are contributing to protecting other, more vulnerable people, more than themselves. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that" My rubella vaccine helps protect pregnant women and babies against rubella. Hopefully my Covid vaccine helps protect someone against Covid. | |||
"I've been feeling a bit rough for a few days, today I woke drenched in sweat with no taste or smell. I've just taken a lateral flow test, it came back with two lines. I've booked a PCR for tomorrow in widnes, if any one is interested, I feel OK just a little bit rough "We hope your feeling better | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that My rubella vaccine helps protect pregnant women and babies against rubella. Hopefully my Covid vaccine helps protect someone against Covid. " It wasn't you I was talking about though It was schoolchildren in school who are being allowed to stay in the same room as other kids with potential covid in answer to anothers comment. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that My rubella vaccine helps protect pregnant women and babies against rubella. Hopefully my Covid vaccine helps protect someone against Covid. It wasn't you I was talking about though It was schoolchildren in school who are being allowed to stay in the same room as other kids with potential covid in answer to anothers comment." Yes, tangent on my part. I disagree with the government's policy and recognise that most people are pretty powerless in it, because the kids are still required to go to school. Herd immunity by infection is not necessary anymore. | |||
"Tested positive last monday, but now struggling with coughing and congestion. Any of you good people got any good tips that helped you ? Thanks in advance xx" Call 111 | |||
"Some moron came to work mid week. Been up all night sweating and with a headache. Left it till about 3 to announce it and also after drinking said his sense of taste has now gone. He was sent home but damage was already done. Everybody has since worked from home who was in contact. I am now in bed after a very uncomfortable night having to book a PCR I feel your pain op I feel awful right now. I never understand why someone would go to work with those symptoms
Hope you feel better soon.
Lots won't get paid.
This is the issue
I think many of us would say that prior to Covid, we'd go into work wheywe were a bit I'll because we couldn't afford to miss work
Unfortunately the work culture hasn't changed
For example, a friend had a reaction to the jab (nothing serious, just felt crappy) but was told of the missed work that would still go on the sickness record
You wouldn’t expect sickness not to go on a sickness record would you? That’s the sort of idea. Does your friend miss work through sickness on a regular basis? "Many companies followed guidelines which said absence due to Covid didn't count towards sick leave total. Now it does. Still affects ppl but support/sympathy mostly gone. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that" I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. " I think that response is reckless. We're risking children's lives. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I think that response is reckless. We're risking children's lives." I don't think that is how the experts see it, they are confident that covid offers very little threat to children and therefore education is more important. I'm interested to know what have you read to say that children's lives are at risk? | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I think that response is reckless. We're risking children's lives. I don't think that is how the experts see it, they are confident that covid offers very little threat to children and therefore education is more important. I'm interested to know what have you read to say that children's lives are at risk? " Which experts? The long term sequelae of Covid are well documented. The risk of death is low, but death is not the only bad outcome - heart issues orders of magnitude more than vaccination, long Covid which may be permanent, neurological damage in some cases which mimics dementia. It's also well known that - unlike vaccination - consequences of viral infections can emerge years down the line. The UK is basically alone in the developed world in being so utterly cavalier with their children. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. " https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I think that response is reckless. We're risking children's lives. I don't think that is how the experts see it, they are confident that covid offers very little threat to children and therefore education is more important. I'm interested to know what have you read to say that children's lives are at risk? Which experts? The long term sequelae of Covid are well documented. The risk of death is low, but death is not the only bad outcome - heart issues orders of magnitude more than vaccination, long Covid which may be permanent, neurological damage in some cases which mimics dementia. It's also well known that - unlike vaccination - consequences of viral infections can emerge years down the line. The UK is basically alone in the developed world in being so utterly cavalier with their children." What are other countries doing differently and is it working, as in education isn't suffering and numbers of cases are under control? | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I think that response is reckless. We're risking children's lives. I don't think that is how the experts see it, they are confident that covid offers very little threat to children and therefore education is more important. I'm interested to know what have you read to say that children's lives are at risk? Which experts? The long term sequelae of Covid are well documented. The risk of death is low, but death is not the only bad outcome - heart issues orders of magnitude more than vaccination, long Covid which may be permanent, neurological damage in some cases which mimics dementia. It's also well known that - unlike vaccination - consequences of viral infections can emerge years down the line. The UK is basically alone in the developed world in being so utterly cavalier with their children. What are other countries doing differently and is it working, as in education isn't suffering and numbers of cases are under control? " Masks, ventilation, high levels of childhood vaccination. Contact tracing. The UK had the highest number of cases in the world yesterday. We're the poster child for doing it wrong | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes " This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. " Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate | |||
" This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. " Masks for older kids, bubbles, ventilation, keeping children away from school if one of your family has it etc etc. Happily some schools themselves have started with their own mitigations as they know they need it | |||
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""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate" If someones ill... Don't go to school. Don't go to work. Test immediate family. Just like any other infectious disease. Nits, measles, norovirus, pox.... Take a bit of responsibility for your fellow man.lkttle jonnys got a cough... You don't send him to little suzies birthday party do you? | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate If someones ill... Don't go to school. Don't go to work. Test immediate family. Just like any other infectious disease. Nits, measles, norovirus, pox.... Take a bit of responsibility for your fellow man.lkttle jonnys got a cough... You don't send him to little suzies birthday party do you? " Yup, but at the moment, apparently parents are being told by the school to send the siblings of kids with Covid to school. A condition with known asymptomatic spread. In my world the responsible thing to do is test regularly and if in doubt, keep asymptomatic siblings out of school where one child tests positive. But if schools are telling you not to and even threatening parents with truancy enforcement - which is what I've seen reports of - then parents don't have a lot of choice. And in my world, personal responsibility goes alongside appropriate community/government safeguarding. I can mask all day long, but I can't protect myself and others the same as a school or community wide measure might be able to achieve. It's not personal responsibility *or* wider action. It should be *and*. | |||
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" Something else I don't understand.. A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive. Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate. I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal? It is called herd immunity but we can't call it that. Using our children like this is not right. It is why 1 in 20 schoolchildren have covid at the moment who will probably pass it onto their parents and grandparents." This is exactly my concern, the daughter of a family member who is now at risk of infection from her schoolmate is in contact with older and more vulnerable family members on our side. This means now semi isolation of her to protect OUR family when the reality, it is the siblings that should be isolated to protect the families of her classmates. I find it reckless, especially now that the "get your teens" protected by vaccine ads are now on radio. Why suddenly do we need to protect 16 to 18 year olds, yet disregard the younger ones (who have no prior immunity and can suffer bad outcomes) and their families. I get your comments on herd immunity but as Chris Whitty and observations have proved, it is NOT working and immunity is not effective as a block as with other vaccines. Many don't understand the benefits of the vaccine is more the individual themselves should they catch it, not preventing spread which is being used by anti vaxxers to claim it is ineffective. The father of the family infected is vaccinated but still given it to his son as you can still catch it, still spread it just the outcome for the individual is better. I just don't think allowing pupils where two family members have tested positive are allowed in school (this scenario is forbidden on workplaces for adults). I do not know of any family where infection of one within the group, spread has been avoided, especially where kids want cuddles. It is 95% certain the two siblings currently still in school will catch it and risk it going into school if not caught and isolated in time. My family is now at risk via older members mixing with her and being in contact with another family currently carrying infections via school. Just crazy... | |||
" Something else I don't understand.. A family member's daughter came home from school today, explaining that the father and one of the their children (a twin in her class) have tested positive. Surprised to hear that the remaining twin and another sibling are still in school, I checked government website which states that this is perfectly acceptable for an under 18 year old with an infectedrelative is NOT required to isolate. I don't get it, a child whose brother or sister are ill and tested positive can go into school as normal? It is called herd immunity but we can't call it that. Using our children like this is not right. It is why 1 in 20 schoolchildren have covid at the moment who will probably pass it onto their parents and grandparents. This is exactly my concern, the daughter of a family member who is now at risk of infection from her schoolmate is in contact with older and more vulnerable family members on our side. This means now semi isolation of her to protect OUR family when the reality, it is the siblings that should be isolated to protect the families of her classmates. I find it reckless, especially now that the "get your teens" protected by vaccine ads are now on radio. Why suddenly do we need to protect 16 to 18 year olds, yet disregard the younger ones (who have no prior immunity and can suffer bad outcomes) and their families. I get your comments on herd immunity but as Chris Whitty and observations have proved, it is NOT working and immunity is not effective as a block as with other vaccines. Many don't understand the benefits of the vaccine is more the individual themselves should they catch it, not preventing spread which is being used by anti vaxxers to claim it is ineffective. The father of the family infected is vaccinated but still given it to his son as you can still catch it, still spread it just the outcome for the individual is better. I just don't think allowing pupils where two family members have tested positive are allowed in school (this scenario is forbidden on workplaces for adults). I do not know of any family where infection of one within the group, spread has been avoided, especially where kids want cuddles. It is 95% certain the two siblings currently still in school will catch it and risk it going into school if not caught and isolated in time. My family is now at risk via older members mixing with her and being in contact with another family currently carrying infections via school. Just crazy... " At the moment there's no approved vaccine for under 12s. I'm not saying I agree with anything else going on (I don't), but younger kids have nothing right now. | |||
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"I’ve been checking on the op every day, he’s an interesting & a nice guy & he’s doing ok He’s eating & staying hydrated " | |||
"I’ve been checking on the op every day, he’s an interesting & a nice guy & he’s doing ok He’s eating & staying hydrated " Well done and thanks for the update. | |||
"I’ve been checking on the op every day, he’s an interesting & a nice guy & he’s doing ok He’s eating & staying hydrated " Poor Ops thread has gone a little off piste glad he’s doing ok. | |||
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"Well, Just a quick update.. My issue is not vaccination of under 16's, it is the lack of requirement for under 18's to isolate. Anyway, 2 out of their 3 kids with the father, two are twins and classmates in the same group. The younger brother, in a different Yr group at the same school, tested positive today. No doubt, only a matter of time before her friend then tests positive meaning twice the chances of exposure. Then they wonder why infections within school children is 2/3rds higher this week.." It's a policy seemingly designed to infect as many school kids as possible and drive vaccine uptake. It's working. Got a bad a level result? Don't blame us.. You didn't have your jab. Etc etc. In a few weeks time attention will shift to those pesky uni students. | |||
"I’ve been checking on the op every day, he’s an interesting & a nice guy & he’s doing ok He’s eating & staying hydrated Poor Ops thread has gone a little off piste glad he’s doing ok. "Things go off piste when people quote things from the news items on TV. I'm not commenting on this as I work in the thick of Covid every day and have done when you were all tucked up safely in your houses. If you want to believe media hype about it all then carry on. But just remember some of us have witnessed this first hand and are still experiencing things most of you can only imagine in your worst nightmares. So spare a thought for the patients, their families and the Dr's and nurses who are battling on a daily basis. Thank you and let's have a bit more empathy from fab | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate If someones ill... Don't go to school. Don't go to work. Test immediate family. Just like any other infectious disease. Nits, measles, norovirus, pox.... Take a bit of responsibility for your fellow man.lkttle jonnys got a cough... You don't send him to little suzies birthday party do you? Yup, but at the moment, apparently parents are being told by the school to send the siblings of kids with Covid to school. A condition with known asymptomatic spread. In my world the responsible thing to do is test regularly and if in doubt, keep asymptomatic siblings out of school where one child tests positive. But if schools are telling you not to and even threatening parents with truancy enforcement - which is what I've seen reports of - then parents don't have a lot of choice. And in my world, personal responsibility goes alongside appropriate community/government safeguarding. I can mask all day long, but I can't protect myself and others the same as a school or community wide measure might be able to achieve. It's not personal responsibility *or* wider action. It should be *and*." Pretty much all viruses have the potential for asymptomatic spread, the question really is how often it happens?. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. " I don't believe that this government gives the slightest fuck about childrens education or childrens health. They are deliberately forcing a policy that is intended to spread covid to the maximum number of people in the shortest time. It is a murderous gamble that vaccinated people will not get too sick, and that unvaccinated people not too many will die. The aim is to ensure that every person in the country has survived exposure to covid by christmas, or is dead and out of the way, so that there is no longer any covid burden on the hospitals. There is zero concern for the emerging evidence that in a large proportion of children even asymptomatic covid can lead to long term brain damage (typically intelligence falling by at least 10%). It absolutely is the policy of trying to achieve herd immunity by mass exposure to the virus that was the governments preferred option from day one of the pandemic. They have judged that the general public is now so tired of the pandemic, and that enough discord exists between vaxx and anti-vaxx sides, that (a) with a bit of cooperation from the msm that is owned by the right wing, reports of population damage can be downplayed, (b) deaths among the unvaccinated will just be dismissed as their own fault, (c) deaths among the vaccinated can be blamed on the unvaxxed as being the ones still spreading the virus. If there is any significant damage to children there will be rewriting of history by Johnson and his cronies, to the effect that they never forced children back into schools, they did everything possible to aid virus suppression measures in the schools, that it was the treacherous left wing teaching staff that failed to use the help that was being offered from Westminster. And something about it would have been far worse if Corbyn and Abbott had been in power. In any case the damage to the intelligence and education of the upcoming generation is a wet dream come true for the hard right, it's just so much easier to control a stupid population. And of course their own kids all go to expensive private schools that you bet are taking much stricter precautions to avoid the spread of covid among children and teachers. I wouldn't even be surprised if there isn't a load of private vaccination going on for the children of the powerful, that is being held back from the kids of the ordinary. I realise that all the usual suspects will say that I'm talking shit - bookmark this thread, check back in six months, then tell me. | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I don't believe that this government gives the slightest fuck about childrens education or childrens health. They are deliberately forcing a policy that is intended to spread covid to the maximum number of people in the shortest time. It is a murderous gamble that vaccinated people will not get too sick, and that unvaccinated people not too many will die. The aim is to ensure that every person in the country has survived exposure to covid by christmas, or is dead and out of the way, so that there is no longer any covid burden on the hospitals. There is zero concern for the emerging evidence that in a large proportion of children even asymptomatic covid can lead to long term brain damage (typically intelligence falling by at least 10%). It absolutely is the policy of trying to achieve herd immunity by mass exposure to the virus that was the governments preferred option from day one of the pandemic. They have judged that the general public is now so tired of the pandemic, and that enough discord exists between vaxx and anti-vaxx sides, that (a) with a bit of cooperation from the msm that is owned by the right wing, reports of population damage can be downplayed, (b) deaths among the unvaccinated will just be dismissed as their own fault, (c) deaths among the vaccinated can be blamed on the unvaxxed as being the ones still spreading the virus. If there is any significant damage to children there will be rewriting of history by Johnson and his cronies, to the effect that they never forced children back into schools, they did everything possible to aid virus suppression measures in the schools, that it was the treacherous left wing teaching staff that failed to use the help that was being offered from Westminster. And something about it would have been far worse if Corbyn and Abbott had been in power. In any case the damage to the intelligence and education of the upcoming generation is a wet dream come true for the hard right, it's just so much easier to control a stupid population. And of course their own kids all go to expensive private schools that you bet are taking much stricter precautions to avoid the spread of covid among children and teachers. I wouldn't even be surprised if there isn't a load of private vaccination going on for the children of the powerful, that is being held back from the kids of the ordinary. I realise that all the usual suspects will say that I'm talking shit - bookmark this thread, check back in six months, then tell me." Think your right. Especially b) and c)... You only have to look at a lot of the ignorant bs on these threads.. Blame the unvax.. Blame the kids.. Blame the students.. And so it goes. | |||
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"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019" Love it when people get called out for posting fake info….. they always get caught out. Well dine | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019" Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave  | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave "I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. I don't believe that this government gives the slightest fuck about childrens education or childrens health. They are deliberately forcing a policy that is intended to spread covid to the maximum number of people in the shortest time. It is a murderous gamble that vaccinated people will not get too sick, and that unvaccinated people not too many will die. The aim is to ensure that every person in the country has survived exposure to covid by christmas, or is dead and out of the way, so that there is no longer any covid burden on the hospitals. There is zero concern for the emerging evidence that in a large proportion of children even asymptomatic covid can lead to long term brain damage (typically intelligence falling by at least 10%). It absolutely is the policy of trying to achieve herd immunity by mass exposure to the virus that was the governments preferred option from day one of the pandemic. They have judged that the general public is now so tired of the pandemic, and that enough discord exists between vaxx and anti-vaxx sides, that (a) with a bit of cooperation from the msm that is owned by the right wing, reports of population damage can be downplayed, (b) deaths among the unvaccinated will just be dismissed as their own fault, (c) deaths among the vaccinated can be blamed on the unvaxxed as being the ones still spreading the virus. If there is any significant damage to children there will be rewriting of history by Johnson and his cronies, to the effect that they never forced children back into schools, they did everything possible to aid virus suppression measures in the schools, that it was the treacherous left wing teaching staff that failed to use the help that was being offered from Westminster. And something about it would have been far worse if Corbyn and Abbott had been in power. In any case the damage to the intelligence and education of the upcoming generation is a wet dream come true for the hard right, it's just so much easier to control a stupid population. And of course their own kids all go to expensive private schools that you bet are taking much stricter precautions to avoid the spread of covid among children and teachers. I wouldn't even be surprised if there isn't a load of private vaccination going on for the children of the powerful, that is being held back from the kids of the ordinary. I realise that all the usual suspects will say that I'm talking shit - bookmark this thread, check back in six months, then tell me." Can you cite your papers on this large population of children you claim are suffering from these effects please I'd be very interested in reading them. | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave
I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome "It has only added more mystery | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate If someones ill... Don't go to school. Don't go to work. Test immediate family. Just like any other infectious disease. Nits, measles, norovirus, pox.... Take a bit of responsibility for your fellow man.lkttle jonnys got a cough... You don't send him to little suzies birthday party do you? Yup, but at the moment, apparently parents are being told by the school to send the siblings of kids with Covid to school. A condition with known asymptomatic spread. In my world the responsible thing to do is test regularly and if in doubt, keep asymptomatic siblings out of school where one child tests positive. But if schools are telling you not to and even threatening parents with truancy enforcement - which is what I've seen reports of - then parents don't have a lot of choice. And in my world, personal responsibility goes alongside appropriate community/government safeguarding. I can mask all day long, but I can't protect myself and others the same as a school or community wide measure might be able to achieve. It's not personal responsibility *or* wider action. It should be *and*. Pretty much all viruses have the potential for asymptomatic spread, the question really is how often it happens?." Not a clue. Covid is the most surveilled pathogen in history. Given we know, and there are low cost interventions to protect one another, why don't we? | |||
"Well, Just a quick update.. My issue is not vaccination of under 16's, it is the lack of requirement for under 18's to isolate. Anyway, 2 out of their 3 kids with the father, two are twins and classmates in the same group. The younger brother, in a different Yr group at the same school, tested positive today. No doubt, only a matter of time before her friend then tests positive meaning twice the chances of exposure. Then they wonder why infections within school children is 2/3rds higher this week.." Not sure children isolating would be sustainable. From what I hear of the local primary the kids would have all been home most days since the first day back this term if they had to follow isolation rules. That’s not sustainable with so many working parents! We will almost all get Covid at some point, with most people vaccinated it’s now a question of trying to spread infections over time rather than prevent them occurring. | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave
I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome "Thought the same to our post too. Suspect it was removed by a Mod for being total and utter bollox. | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave
I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome
Thought the same to our post too. Suspect it was removed by a Mod for being total and utter bollox. "If they start removing posts for being utter billow I fear any trace of me may disappear from the forums | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave
I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome
Thought the same to our post too. Suspect it was removed by a Mod for being total and utter bollox.
If they start removing posts for being utter billow I fear any trace of me may disappear from the forums "There's degree's of bolloxness | |||
"It’s Kary Mullis and he’d have been hard pressed to say PCR testing isn’t fit for purpose for testing on Covid on account of him dying mid 2019 Nice work detective! I'm waiting for the conspiracy theory that will explain how he came to speak from the grave
I notice the post I responded to has disappeared! Now I just look like I’ve got a strange Tourette’s like syndrome
Thought the same to our post too. Suspect it was removed by a Mod for being total and utter bollox.
If they start removing posts for being utter billow I fear any trace of me may disappear from the forums
There's degree's of bolloxness "Excellent, we can start a scale I think I like the sound of 3rd degree bolloxness and it being of the highest order of bolloxness. OP I hope you have started to make a recovery now? It must be hard to chip in on this thread but please do let us know how you are feeling | |||
""What is herd immunity in terms of COVID-19? Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving 'herd immunity' through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths" We are letting it rip through our children, your rubella vaccine won't help that I think the government has decided that child education has suffered far too much considering there is no significant consequences for school children with covid. The roll out of the vaccine to all parents has happened and should make the symptoms less aggressive but symptoms will still occur, but less impactful as most parents are aged under those deemed at risk. As long as there is no significant uptake in hospital beds for parents, schools will continue to operate as normal. The message fro the government is we need to accept covid as part of our lives, that is now playing out. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mother-warns-coronavirus-can-happen-to-anybody-after-teenage-daughter-dies-on-day-she-was-to-get-vaccine-12424310 It isn't always a mild outcome, there have been deaths and hospitalisations of children with Covid. Your last sentence confirms what I was thinking. For clarity though ,this is not a post to say schools should shut, this is a post saying letting it rip through schools with no mitigations to try and stem it so that parents are Ok to work and keep the economy going is not good in my eyes This is the challenge, how do you mitigate without impacting the economy again. Sending children home if a child in their class tested positive saw huge numbers of children staying at home, often not developing symptoms themselves. This had a negative impact on parents who couldn't work from home, the mental wellbeing of children was being impacted too and we end up back at square 1. I don't know what the answer is and I'don't think the government knows either, that is why we have plan A & plan B. Mask children. Bring in air filtration. Reinstate bubbles. Reinstate contact tracing and parental notification. Accept that short term pain is long term gain - isn't it better to take Sibling of infected child and isolate them too, rather than letting Sibling infect their class before their PCR comes back? Get the resources for remote learning up and running which were promised in mid 2020 - for clinically vulnerable children/families, and for those who have to isolate If someones ill... Don't go to school. Don't go to work. Test immediate family. Just like any other infectious disease. Nits, measles, norovirus, pox.... Take a bit of responsibility for your fellow man.lkttle jonnys got a cough... You don't send him to little suzies birthday party do you? Yup, but at the moment, apparently parents are being told by the school to send the siblings of kids with Covid to school. A condition with known asymptomatic spread. In my world the responsible thing to do is test regularly and if in doubt, keep asymptomatic siblings out of school where one child tests positive. But if schools are telling you not to and even threatening parents with truancy enforcement - which is what I've seen reports of - then parents don't have a lot of choice. And in my world, personal responsibility goes alongside appropriate community/government safeguarding. I can mask all day long, but I can't protect myself and others the same as a school or community wide measure might be able to achieve. It's not personal responsibility *or* wider action. It should be *and*. Pretty much all viruses have the potential for asymptomatic spread, the question really is how often it happens?. Not a clue. Covid is the most surveilled pathogen in history. Given we know, and there are low cost interventions to protect one another, why don't we?" Well it matters on policy, if it's ten cases a week and you want to send a million people home to isolate every time they come into contact with a case it turns into a pantomime and shuts half the country down. Theres some data you can look at if you want, it comes from the covid app that used to isolate people who've come into contact with cases, it showed less than 1% of people went on to test positive for sars-cov2. | |||
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"Hi there I'm tom and I'm the OP. I just want to say thank you so much to everyone who contributed to my post and sent me messages of good will. I'm no longer covid positive and passed LFTs for the last 3 dsys. Im still a little weak but I'm well over the worst, all I can say is thank goodness for the jabs. Tom" Great news | |||
"Hi there I'm tom and I'm the OP. I just want to say thank you so much to everyone who contributed to my post and sent me messages of good will. I'm no longer covid positive and passed LFTs for the last 3 dsys. Im still a little weak but I'm well over the worst, all I can say is thank goodness for the jabs. Tom" | |||
